– In which Glenn acquires a pen pal. And so does Wired. And so does the WaPo. And so do a LOT of people. Creepy? You decide. Idiosyncratic syntax? Oh yeah. Politicization of the military? Oversight, anyone?
– John Edwards is set to deliver a fantastic speech in NH today. Via Tracy Joan at DKos:
…It’s time to tell the truth. And the truth is the system in Washington is corrupt. It is rigged by the powerful special interests to benefit they very few at the expense of the many. And as a result, the American people have lost faith in our broken system in Washington, and believe it no longer works for ordinary Americans. They’re right.
As I look across the political landscape of both parties today – what I see are politicians too afraid to tell the truth – good people caught in a bad system that overwhelms their good intentions and requires them to chase millions of dollars in campaign contributions in order to perpetuate their careers and continue their climb to higher office….
If protecting the current established structure in Washington is in your interest, then I am not your candidate. I ran for president four years ago – yes, in part out of personal ambition – but also with a deep desire to stand for working people like my father and mother – who no matter how hard things were for our family, always worked even harder to make things better for us.
But the more Elizabeth and I campaigned this year, the more we talked to the American people, the more we met people just like my father, and hard working people like James Lowe. James is a decent and honest man who had to live for 50 years with no voice in the richest country in the world because he didn’t have health care. The more people like him that I met, the more I realized something much bigger was stirring in the American people. And it has stirred in each of us for far too long….
This is our time now. It falls to us[ ] to redeem our democracy, reclaim our government and relight the promise of America for our children.
Let us blaze a new path together, grounded in the values from which America was forged, still reaching toward the greatness of our ideals. We can do it. We can cast aside the bankrupt ways of Washington and replace them with the timeless values of the American people. We can liberate our government from the shackles of corporate money that bind it to corporate will, and restore the voices of our people to its halls….
Go read the whole thing. Also of note, Iowa Dems have moved up their caucus date. Just FYI. Of course, the media is getting busy with such stimulating nonsense as the spousal relationships of candidates. (H/T Digby) Because, as Duncan says, there not exactly anything more important to discuss in a Presidential race while things are going so swimmingly, now is there? (snark intended)
– The Young Turks had a great interview with Paul Krugman today on the State of Liberalism. Worth the watching and then some.
– Why is Sen. Mitch McConnell pushing earmarked funds for a British contractor under under “criminal investigation by the U.S. Justice Department and suspected by American diplomats of a “longstanding, widespread pattern of bribery allegations”?” That’s not going to help his already sinking poll numbers in KY, now is it?
– More on the stalled Hans von Spakovsky nomination that I updated over the weekend. The Campaign Legal Center says that Tanner’s testimony to the HJC tomorrow spells big problems for von Spakovsky. And that it is all Bush’s fault. Could it be without his patron Karl in the WH, that Ed Gillespie is less than willing to spend the political points necessary to save von Spakovsky, what with the FISA fight, the SCHIP fight, the Mukasey fight, the messes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the pending budget fights, to name but a few, all simultaneously hitting the Bush Administration? Guess we’ll see…
– CNet discusses the basics on IM privacy. And why you likely have none at the moment based on the FISA revelations. Speaking of FISA, this from the ACLU is particularly good:
Caroline Fredrickson, director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office said, “Congress bowed to the fear-mongering of the administration, yet again. Democrats should not capitulate to the administration. Letting the administration dictate the terms of this legislation once more will only doom us to repeat the disaster of the Protect America Act.”
The ACLU will continue to oppose any immunity deal – whether for telecom executives or for administration officials. “The administration is trying to cover its tracks. A dribble of documents provided to Congress is a case of too little, too late,” said ACLU Senior Legislative Counsel Timothy Sparapani.
“The ACLU will be working to oppose the Senate legislation unless it is redrafted to include individual warrants for when the government spies on Americans,” said Fredrickson. “Being constitutional is like being pregnant – either you are or you aren’t. And this bill isn’t. “
With “[s]eventy-four percent of Democrats, 60 percent of independents and even 46 percent of Republicans oppose tapping Americans without a warrant,” it seems that the majority of Americans agree with the ACLU. Please make some calls today.
– This is just appalling.
– And finally, TBogg is just funny. And he has an excellent memory.
PS — Happiest of birthdays to eCAHNomics and recoveringlurker!




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Christy!
Zed-Is that possible!!!! :-)
#2 good on ya Steve-AR
Off to work now
Have a good day, Maddy. :)
Here.
Good afternoon, gang…
And let’s add this one to the list:
Bush May Recess-Appoint Homophobic Surgeon General Nominee Who Wants To Cure Gays
So much for a gentleman’s agreement between him and Reid not to do recess appointments. But then we aren’t dealing with gentlemen, are we?
Marcy’s take on the McConnell business..makes sense to me.
TNH
Now to work, here at my workstation…*g*
Deb at 8 — Yes, that agreement’s just going swimmingly, isn’t it?
Home on my day off with a dreadful cold. My head was exploding enough without all of this going on, eh?
As I said last week, Dodd has moved me a little. But I’m still with Edwards…
Biodun @ 13
By the time the primaries get to me—whenever that is—it will be all over anyway. But money going to Dodd now, him and Blue America candidates.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 11
Amazing how Reid is letting himself get jerked around. Unless its all hunky dory with him. Could be.
Since the lead-in is News of Note, this is not quite OT:
Happy Birthday to me.
Happy Birthday, eCAHN!
eCAHNomics @ 16
Hippo Birdies eCAHN!
Speaking of Edwards, wouldn’t it be fun to look forward to eight years of lightheartedness like this retort to Colbert than another round of sex scandals?
I choose joie de vivre and personal courage. I still choose Edwards.
Happy Birthday eCHAN!!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 17
Thanks Christy.
The woman who wrote the slate piece has a nytimes piece on why pro choice is bad for Democrats.
and Happy Birthday to eCHAN..
And by all means let’s add this one to News of Note:
I’m scared of Mama!!!
eCAHN:
Joyeux Anniversaire!
dakine01 @ 18
I love the mental image of hippo birdies. Can imagine how much birdseed they’d comsume, and the size of the feeder, and the size of the squirrels raiding it.
Highly recommend following the link at the top of the post to Glenn Greenwald. They are now trying to politicize the military. Who could have imagined?
On a lighter note, plans to harden nuclear weapons manufacturing sites in this country from terrorist attack are behind schedule, in some cases by years. Feel safer?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10…..ref=slogin
eCAHN—Happy birthday! Hope it’s a good one.
OT
U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Dorko was injured today when an IED exploded near his vehicle in Baghdad, Pentagon sources tell CNN.
Biodun @ 24
I should break out a bottle of good French wine to celebrate. Perhaps the Chateau Beychevelle 1986 that’s been resting in my closet for some years.
eCAHNomics @ 25
I think with hippo birdies, the image of them landing on the side of the bird feeder and having it bend to the ground comes into play
eCAHNomics @ 16
Hey econ, me too! (I’m the one you exchanged comments with about studying with L. Strauss at the U of C. me: b. 1943.
eCAHN- Best wishes
I have been standing at Cob Corner on the crossroads between Biden Time and Boot Hill here in Iowa all autumn waiting for the Obama Express to roll by so that I might hop on. Ain’t seen it.
the scariest halloween costume is shrub in a flight suit –the gooper costume of the day
I do not believe that poll of the costume or mask — there is a whole rightwing meme with Clinton and Halloween -
eCAHNomics @ 16
Happy B-day to you, eCAHN!
If you haven’t done so, do click through the link and read the entire Edwards speech. Beautifully written, I have to say…very nicely done. Would love to see those issues catch fire for the campaign season, wouldn’t you?
old gold @ 34
are you talking about the man himself or the campaign. In my imagination I see each campaign having four or five people working full time in each county.
recoveringlurker @ 32
Hey, lurk less, esp on your Bday. Me ‘44, so very much of the same era–right in advance of the Boomers. Gives you a pioneering perspective, esp if you were, like me, a Female Wall St. professional.
I can’t immediately bring back our former exchanges, but I must have asked you if you knew a high school classmate who was at U of C, studied with Strauss, obviously in same era.
And Mama responds:
Harrumph!
And thanks to all for happy wishes today!
Biodun @ 40
Remeber Hillary’s the one who said the only response to critics was to “deck ‘em.”
Happy birthday recoveringlurker! I’m with eCAHN — lurk less. :)
RevDeb @ 15
I think Harry got the job because the Dems didn’t want a leadership fight and he split the difference between the Bush-Blue/Dogs and Progressives. His Progressive lifetime voting score put him at 37/50 Dems.
eCAHN: I was there for grad sch for a while; I called “them” a cult. Attorney here. Have a nice day — only once in these many yrs have I met someone w the same birthday. We are like Christy and Siun!
eCHAN
happy birthday — I love birthdays.
“Remeber Hillary’s the one who said the only response to critics was to “deck ‘em.”
Her campaign needs helpp out Democrats in general.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 43
Thanks Christy! Recovery offtrack; I’ll try harder.
recoveringlurker @ 45
IIRC, statistically speaking, if there’s a group of 20 people, two will share the same b’day…
eCAHN @ 30:
That French wine sounds like a lovely idea…with some chevre and baguette perhaps.
Happy BDay, eCAHN – and many many more.
(and Happy BDay and welcome to recovering….)
Happy birthday to eCAHN and recovering. I’m earlier in the year but also ‘43. I’m always gratified to see how many of us here are around the same age. A great day to all.
katherine Graham Cracker @ 38
Neither.
I have seen him and had contact with his campaign.
It’s the there there thing that is missing.
Just got the text of Edwards speech in NH. God bless ‘em: John and Elizabeth…and us.
And Froomkin’s first segment today of Bush trying to answer a question about accountability for private contractors only confirms one thing: Pete Stark had it right.
old gold @ 34
Obama is getting hammered in the “lefty blogs”, will this impact his campaign or is it insider stuff?
Hey eCAHN:
That’s quite a bottle of Chateau Beychevelle 1986 you have there.
dakine01 @ 48
We had a statistics summer class with 17 kids and we had TWO matches including my birthday which was during the program. It was quite a party.
Happy birthday recoveringlurker!
dakine01 @ 48
Yeah, I know the stats, but I’m with recovering–think I’ve only come across 1 in all these years, also. Not that I ask people when their Bdays are.
There is a seasonality to births in the U.S., so the probabilites should be adjusted accordingly. Turns out more babies are conceived in the winter & born from late summer thru autumn. That, however, would not explain why lurking & I have met so few qith 10/29 dates.
Biodun @ 40
Of Note….Howie Klein has a diary up at DKos about Blue America’s Sam Bennett who we chatted with a few weeks ago.
Recommendations always help.
RBG @ 59
Done.
RBG at 59 — Done.
eCAHNomics @ 57
I had a co-worker at one time from a large fmaily. He and his siblings had figured out that they were all born nine months after either their mother or their father’s b’days.
lol — egregious and I are the “recommend twins.”
Man, that got messed up..I know “preview is your friend”
my bit was: Attacks are good; anyone who can’t take the heat in a Dem Primary fight will get killed by the MSM and Thugs in the General.
Biodun @ 55
Thanks for looking it up. I bought a case as futures some years ago, so paid considerably less, but could no longer find what I actually paid, as I didn’t keep track of the sales slip.
I had kind of stopped reading the Post’s op-eds for a while, especially the second stringer, so it was with revulsion that my eyes accidentally lingered on this one:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01152.html
As a result I wasted a portion of the day writing a Letter to Editor.
brendan at 66 — it is an odious op-ed day there today, isn’t it?
eCAHNomics @ 57
I don’t meet too many with 10/25 (mine) but it’s definitely more than what you two are describing. Interesting…
The Glenn Greenwald story about Colonel Boylan is hilarious. He does not mention the most likely reason for Boylan’s bizarre actions, i.e. he has completely flipped out. If I were Glenn, I would find out who runs public affairs at the Pentagon and ask for an explanation.
dakine01@62
707
I wonder if Gore will endorse Edwards?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 67
Actually, there’s a fine debunking of Social Security scare stories from a former trustee.
Hugh @ 69
They’ve all “flipped out”; just not out of power.
Hugh @ 69
I’d be surprised if Boylan is the only Iraq-involved military muckity muck who’s flipped out. Especially those who live in cognitive dissonance (she said politely) while publicly supporting W.
snowbird42 @ 71
That would be REALLY nice.
CHS:
Correction: by Robert Ball, a former Social Security commissioner.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01150.html
brendan — Missed that one. Caught the Mallaby one and Hiatt, and I threw up my hands in disgust…
Have you read the Edwards speech yet? Inspiring.
Let’s all carry the promise of America in our hearts! And evangelize for Edwards with speaking lips and fingertips.
Oh my bias? Is it showing?
Now back to frazzly real life.
Prairie Sunshine @ 53
Oh, I LOVE this from Rice:
“Pressed to express regret for what Rep. John Sarbanes (D-Md.) called “the failures of your department, your failures,” Rice said, “I certainly regret that we did not have the kind of oversight that I would have insisted upon.”
Condolesa Honey, it’s just a lot easier and more honest for you to just say, “It’s not my fault….”
I guess now we know how some heterosexual couples celebrate their birthdays…*g*
(I say heterosexual because “same-sex” has made this retronym necessary, like “acoustic” before guitar, and “general” before public.)
dakine01@62
LOL – on a similar note: September is the month that has the most births. I figure it’s all that New Year’s “celebrating”
Lovely speech……
But where does Edwards stand on FISA, and especially telecom immunity?
I realize he is not a current Senator but I don’t recall his statement being very forceful in that regard.
Maybe a re-post but a “good” op-ed:
NYT
By the way, I thought Dodd was terrible on “Meet the Press”. He was defensive, while that hydroencephalitic moron was positively animated in challenging his supposed pandering to the base.
It also showed that any candidate who voted fo the war, even an otherwise decent one like Dodd, is going to be skewered by the press. They just gloat over anybody weak enough to have followed their script.
eCAHNomics @ 65
Don’t worry, you don’t have to pay capital gains tax on it, so you don’t need the base price.
I’m sorry, guys, I don’t think Edwards is purer than the other candidates we have. He says all the right things but that’s because he can. He doesn’t have a public office or constituents he has to placate.
It’s unlikely that I’m going to persuade anyone to carefully examine Edwards. People will believe what they want to believe and hold some candidates to a much higher standard than others. Sometimes a politician’s sincerity is taken at face value and they immediately get respect while others have to earn it.
Talk is cheap.
Toby Wollin @ 79
Or to ask her, “Then Madame Secretary, why did you not insist on it?”
DBaker — here you go:
“Congress is considering new wiretapping laws that go well beyond the authority the president needs to keep our country safe by allowing wiretapping of Americans’ phone calls and emails without court supervision. Once again, George Bush is intimidating his critics with political threats.
“It’s time for Congress to show some backbone and stand up for the principles that have always made America strong. To defeat terrorism, we must preserve our moral authority to lead the world. If we are to succeed in spreading democracy abroad, we must defend the fundamental principles of democracy at home.”
http://johnedwards.com/news/press-releas es/20071017-military-commission-act/
Thanks for the “P.S.” Christy!!
portia.vz @ 86
But is he the least worst?
dangit — that was the MCA one. Hold on…
Toby Wollin
egr bold
?? Hey, you’re the Secretary of State, that makes you the head of the department. If you wanted oversight, it was YOUR decision to make it happen. Or not.
This irks me, it’s like Rep. Tom Davis talking about investigations into government operations, when he did little to nothing during the six years that it was his direct responsibility to initiate these investigations.
egregious @ 85
I suppose capital gains taxes would be due if I sold it instead of consuming it!
The Mallaby op-ed was rank. Not confronting Iraq led to war with Iraq while Bush’s confrontation of Iraq which also led to war is somehow better although it turned out worse. This is the kind of muddleheaded thinking which not only got us into the quagmire of Iraq but serves equally well to launch us into a war with Iran.
Now this is an interesting development:
Regarding the curious pin pal – According to the September 22 New York Times, there is a newly formed “Digital Outreach Team of the State Department’s Counterterrorism Communication Center” that blogs on at least 70 sites.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09…..ggers.html
brendan @ 66
This part of the oped makes me ask the question of Mr Mallaby:
Does he need to ask Cheney?
Hugh @ 94
Here’s what I wrote. Too long, but I wanted to include two separate lines of argument:
Beginning with its title (”Foreign Policy Grown-Up”, Oct. 29), Sebastian Mallaby’s column on the Democratic candidates’ positions on recent Iran sanctions descends to a level of juvenile epithets, invective and allusions that should embarrass the Post.
Alas, the column’s dangerous presciptions themselves echo the editors, who recently characterized the administration’s Iran policy as “centrist and sensible” (”A Difference on Iran”, Oct. 21). To Mallaby, “a nuclear Iran is scary”, though the author doesn’t specify whether it’s nuclear arms or the technology itself that has him so frightened this Halloween. In any case, such fine points are moot to this nonchalant proponent of unlimited executive power to start and wage wars: “if Bush wants to bomb Iran or hit Iranian units inside Iraq, he can do so without a Senate resolution.” Meanwhile, Mallaby’s summation of the Iraq war is simply Orwellian: “The larger, more durable lesson from Iraq is that wars can be caused by a lack of confrontation”.
All this minimization of the Iraq debacle and exaggeration of the Iran threat is predictable on the op-ed pages of the Post, which goaded us to invade the former and now seeks a remedy for the “lack of confrontation” vis a vis the latter. It still shocks the ear, however, when Mallaby groundlessly and insultingly dismisses the foreign policy concerns of Democratic voters and candidates as products of “hatred” for the President. Ergo, “(Hillary) Clinton…has risen above Bush hatred”, while “Clinton’s rivals…lack the courage to defy Bush-hating primary voters” and, indeed, are themselves animated by “Bush hatred” or a lust for “Bush-bashing”. Similarly, “lining up with the president on any issue is like becoming a Death Eater” (a reference to Harry Potter). Leave aside the contempt for democracy inherent in the presumption that it’s “courage” to ignore voters’ wishes — the name calling, references to children’s books, and attributions of schoolyard grudges to the candidates are inappropriate to discussing the “grown-up” matter of war.
Ran a google search in Dubya’s brain for “oath of office” and “constitution”, found a link but it came back 404.
mo2 @ 96
Did we make the cut?
If you break down this sentence, it simply doesn’t make sense. Precisely under what conditions exactly would you have insisted upon the oversight? And why did you not insist upon on it in this instance?
egregious @ 92
Exactly, Egreg – She’s a whiner, not a leader. Can you imagine Madeline Albright saying something like that?
Pure unadulterated garbage. What does she think the job is all about, anyway? If she doesn’t want to have to do the tough stuff, then she should never have taken the job.
Biodun @ 101
That she would have insisted on, had she been doing her [insert adjective of choice] job.
egregious @ 92
It’s what got me too. It’s like a janitor saying someone should really clean up this mess. But let’s face it in this Administration no matter how many times they screw up it is always someone else’s fault, preferably Bill Clinton followed by Islamofascists.
And so Rice now regrets not doing what she would have insisted upon? (Not much sense.)
portia.vz @ 86
No one in politics is or can be “Snow-White”..if they were, they couldn’t be elected…But you are right about Edwards..talk is cheap when you are not in office…He had some really bad Senate votes, especially his position on the Bankruptcy Law, maybe the worst anti-progressive piece of legislation..he says he is sorry for that and for Iraq…even Edwards isn’t Snow White.
(Maybe Paul Wellstone is the exception..but I don’t know his full political history)
Biodun @ 105
I’ve never heard Rice say anything intelligent, but until today, I also never heard her say anything stupid.
She typically is the master of the say nothing filibuster. Wonder why that skill suddenly deserted her.
Christy, great observation about Hans von Spakovsky. They’ve got dwindling political capital, elections are looming, and more and more, they are meeting resistance which requires the expenditure of that political capital to move their agenda.
Even if we don’t win on every issue right now, such as SCHIP, we are forcing the Admin to think twice about which battles it picks, and to watch how it prioritizes. They may have to throw a Spakovsky, or even a Mukasey overboard. Small, but important progress, and it adds up.
Biodun @ 105
Let’s look at this sentence (I’m channeling my 7th grade English teacher, Mrs. Neugebauer, who was wicked good on the diagramming sentences stuff):
Rice said, “I certainly regret that we did not have the kind of oversight that I would have insisted upon.”
This is NOT a complete sentence. It’s got a subject – “I”. It’s got a verb: “regret”, modified by “certainly”. But the object is incomplete – “that we did not have the kind of oversight that I would have insisted upon…..” The rest of the object is not even implied here, but should probably be something like “that we did not have the kind of oversight that I would have insisted upon, had I been any sort of effective manager of my department.”
See, now it fits and reads properly.
Toby Wollin @ 109
My thoughts exactly. There was a clause missing at the end.
Biodun @ 101
you’re right, it’s ludicrous.
Here’s another example of Rice nonsense, as it were:
brendan, excellent letter. I always wonder what makes people like Mallaby tick. Are the material rewards really worth the complete lack of self-integrity and intellectual honesty?
John is really taking it to the Obama Campaign.
link
portia.vz @ 86
Conversely, without current constituents Edwards can say exactly what he believes and intends to do as President. Without the constraints of current office, he can speak from the heart, telling Americans exactly what he’d do as President.
Unlike the “front-runner,” who’s convinced me she’ll do lots of studying of issues, but has taken a clear stand on few.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 61
ditto
Here’s yet another one:
eCAHNomics @ 30
You definitely should break out the good French wine dear eCAHNomics – firepup extraordinaire! Happy Birthday!
Biodun @ 117
Could it be possible that our problem in the Executive Branch is that we don’t have anyone in a position of authority who can think clearly enough to create a complete sentence?
Biodun @ 117
Ah, the old “he didn’t except that he did” line. It’s like the politician’s line that he was for it, except and unless, of course, he was against it.
New poll for opinioneers…
Is it time to abandon the terrorist watch list and find another means of screening for terrorists?
What “another means of screening” entails is not specified… The current score is:
Yes 46.67%
No 53.33%
The list is growing at a rate of 200,000 names a year.
Yet another one:
Let’s ignore the mixed metaphors. We know what smoking gun means. (In Saddam’s case there was no smoking gun.) We also know that mushroom cloud is an atomic/nuclear explosion. Again: makes no sense whatsoever.
egregious @ 100
From the article:
Steve-AR @ 114
Additionally, the (white) gay minister Obama brought in as cover gave an early prayer to a helf-empty auditorium and then left.
This showcasing of the self-hating not-quite-recloseted homophobe McClurkin will be the end of Obama’s campaign, especially among the young people he’s energized around his candidacy who have no use for gay-bashing.
eCAHNomics @ 107
“I hope you leave here and walk out and say, ‘What did he say?’”
GWB
Hey, newspaperbrat–Thanks so much. Is it 5pm EDT yet?
Jane’s upstairs…
Jane & Glenn upstairs
Biodun @ 95
Interesting…and they Swiftboat a family of SIX who bring in $50,000 a year! They say that they make too much?
Didn’t hear a peep from Bush telling Malkin, Coulter, Limbaugh and their ilk to lay of the kid and his family because THEY would be eligible under what Bush had in mind.
Oh, I said “mind”…this President doesn’t even think about what he does…sliming people is instinctive…and NEVER APOLOGIZE!
Condi is hacktastic.
She’s not qualified to run a sausage cart.
Dick Cheney on the other hand is more than qualified to run any Halloween exhibition that is scary and has torture chambers.
George W. is well qualified to to pass the rimless cap and crank the organ.
-GSD
neokneme @ 121
They need to speed up the addition of names. At that rate, it’ll take ‘em 1500 years to put every man, woman & child in the U.S. on the list.
neokneme @ 121
Do you know what you call a list with 200,000 names on it? A telephone book.
This Administration has this idea that the best way to find a needle in a haystack is to vastly increase the amount of hay.
peanutbutter @ 68
Well, add another to your list. I’m a 10/25er as well!
eCAHNomics @ 130
Lol! and Happy B.
Telephone book indeed!
RevDeb @ 15
If his whole goal was getting the position of Senate Majority Leader (and NOT what he was going to do with the position), then this is just fine with him.
If Nancy’s goal was mainly to become the first FEMALE Speaker of the House, then she will do little to jeopardize that.
They seem just to be typical mid-level bureaucrats – laying low and rocking as few boats as possible to get what they want then keep it.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 88
Thanks Christy!
I had remembered seeing something like this. I realize the man is not in the Senate, and can’t do much about things directly, but the statement is really a bunch of mush. He was a Senator for 6 years – did he not make any friends? He has a bigger pulpit than, say, this blog. (No offense intended whatsoever – the blogosphere has a role to play in political action and coordinating action)
While Sen. Dodd was not all that good on MTP yesterday – Timmeh was in full gotcha attack dog mode – at least he did something.
The nation is yearning for leadership. Edwards gives lovely speeches, but I have not seen any real call to actions where he inspires people to actually *do* something. I’d like him to call on his supporters to also make phone calls. To call one or more Senators (or Congressmen) who support him for the Presidency to help him out in putting a hold on a bill or filibuster some of the very legislation that he is talking about in the speech. It’s a win-win situation for a relatively unknown back-bencher as that person could thrust him or herself into the limelight as well.
That said, he has avowed to not take any PAC money so that might count as some action. I’d just like to see some inspired leadership – that’s what the country is really yearning for from what I see.
Politicization of the military : It certainly did not take long for MoveOn to be vindicated.
eCAHNomics @ 90
Not in my opinion. I’d work for him tirelessly if he were the nominee because he is a much better alterntive to any Republican. But while I have a choice, I prefer someone better prepared who doesn’t have to pander slavishly to the base in order to be relevent. JMHO. You mileage may vary.
TeddySanFran @ 115
I don’t see it that way. The lack of office does give him a certain freedom but that is only because he will never be held accountable for any of his rhetoric. He can take any position he pleases on the War or FISA or healthcare or any of a number of things. So, while he has that freedom, why not tell his base exactly what it wants to hear? There’s absolutely no way to prove he really means any of it. An uncritical mind would accept everything he says as being sincere. A critical mind regards his positions with a certain degree of skepticism.
Sorry all — I got busy doing something with The Peanut when she got home from preschool and didn’t get a chance to pop back in with the Edwards FISA statement for everyone. Here you go, and sorry for the delay:
John Edwards on FISA and Retroactive Immunity:
“George Bush and the corporate lobbyists are once again teaming up to keep Americans from knowing the truth about what goes on in Washington. This time, they’re asking Congress to help them cover up their illegal warrantless surveillance of Americans’ phone calls and e-mails by giving retroactive immunity to companies that have broken the law, so that the facts about these abuses can never come out in court. Congress should stand up for the Constitution and the rule of law by rejecting any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecom companies.”
I loved the Edwards speech. It actually brought a tear to my eye when I read it. Wow, I wish the media would cover things like his speech rather than the BS stuff they cover.
Speaking of BS I just read the Howie Kurtz column that dealt with the Project for Excellence in Journalism report. You would think that a guy whose column is supposed to be about the media would devote his entire column to this major report. But, nope, not Howie. Not only did he give the report little coverage he repeated the same mistakes that the report identified. He gave the majority of the coverage about the report to Hilliary.
I wanted to leave a comment for him but either my computer is messed up and won’t let me comment or his column is no longer taking comments???
Anyone else have trouble making comments?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 140
Yeah John! I knew he would be on the right side of this important issue.
Patty — Do you have a link to the report? Would love to take a peek at it. Thanks much…
portia.vz @ 138
Hillary stands in the back of the room and waits to vote in the Senate. Is she NOT ‘prepared’?
Her constant attention to focus groups and polls doesn’t indicate she has her mind made up about anything. Is she really ‘prepared’?
She shows no leadership and that means she isn’t showing us what she really might do as president. Why wouldn’t she want us to know? Is it because she knows her triangulating would lead to many policies we wouldn’t like? Is she ‘prepared’ to triangulate away our Constitution?
Bill thought she was prepared to create the health care reform of the early ’90s. But, that went bust. Was she not ‘prepared’?
Preparedness is something Rudy Giuliani has been preaching. Is Hillary more prepared than Rudy? If they’re both prepared, but their vision for America and their degree of Leadership is lacking, then aren’t they more worse than Edwards?
Consider Edwards history as a lawyer and how he fought corporate power on behalf of the little guy. He knows a lot about how corporations work and he’s learned a lot about those laws relating to the cases he had. That’s preparation!
Yes, any candidate can say anything. They all do at times. Take Hillary for example, how does she get away with saying she’s a ‘modern progressive’ after submitting or co-sponsoring anti-flag-burning legislation? Do her words reflect actions? What kind of preparedness is that — prepared to lie?
Edwards IS free to say what he wants and everything we, here on the blog, have noticed is that he speaks for the little guy and for Law and for real Progressive ideas. If his earlier behavior as a senator didn’t mesh I prefer to say he was ill-advised by Bob Shrum. I don’t know it for a fact and I know that as a lawyer he is capable of giving speeches he might not believe. But, that’s true for all the other candidates. Notice how a candidate (say from a previous presidential campaign) will win the nomination of his party and then ‘move’ toward the other side. They literally change their positions in the middle of a campaign. I hate to see it, but that’s a practice we’ve all seen.
Is Edwards prepared? I say yes.
Is Hillary prepared? Probably.
Has Edwards behavior always synched-up with his recent speeches? Not always.
Has Hillary’s behavior always synched-up with her recent speeches? Not always.
So, what differentiates them?
Hillary has a LOT of money. Edwards has refused support from lobbyists and PACS. I’ll take the latter any day since there’s no payback required.
Hillary has sometimes been inconsistent in her speeches. I don’t really know what she stands for. At least Edwards has been entirely consistent during this campaign. We would know what to hold Edwards to. What could anyone hold slippery Hillary to?
Which is the least worst?
How can Hillary be less worst than Chris Dodd or Joe Biden? They have obviously a lot more Senatorial experience than Hillary and have consistent positions honed over many years. Hillary is much more inconsistent and politically motivated. She was raised in a Republican household and became a Goldwater Girl and has stayed true to that in everything she does except carrying the Democratic label.
No, I support Edwards because he offers the moon at a time when we need that kind of inspiration and because of his personal background. He grew up poor and worked for everything he’s got. He’s been consistent to his background as she has to hers, and that is fundamental to knowing who they are deep down in their soul and THAT would give you a better idea what they could do as president.
I don’t actually believe Edwards would be as progressive/liberal as he professes (for example). I think he has those ideas, but was raised to be a solid Southern conservative Democrat. The mixture of his intellectual ideas and how he was raised and his training and experience as a lawyer have produced someone with intelligence, experience, grit and determination and a lot of empathy for the little guy.
I support John Edwards.
MarkH @ 144