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		<title>By: David Ehrenstein</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/29/obama-not-so-big-on-teh-gay/#comment-1065769</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ehrenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“The fact of the matter is that Obama has done more by his words and actions to lessen the legal and social burdens on the GLBT community than any other candidate running for office.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s mouthed the words, but there haven’t been any actions — save for putting a singing closeted Fundie freak on this whore-o-rama “Gospel Tour.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Get the stardust out of your eyes, dear. Obama’s a disaster.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“The fact of the matter is that Obama has done more by his words and actions to lessen the legal and social burdens on the GLBT community than any other candidate running for office.”</p>
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<p>He’s mouthed the words, but there haven’t been any actions — save for putting a singing closeted Fundie freak on this whore-o-rama “Gospel Tour.”</p>
<p>Get the stardust out of your eyes, dear. Obama’s a disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: deandra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/29/obama-not-so-big-on-teh-gay/#comment-1065763</link>
		<dc:creator>deandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To: TeddySanFran: What a positive, illustrative exerpt.  I have &lt;b&gt;&lt;em&gt;always&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/b&gt; been an Edwards supporter.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have to say one thing about Obama.  I think he is, despite his ‘gay’ opinion, a good person.  He’s just too young for this job.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To me John Edwards is the perfect fit.  &lt;em&gt;He’s the man for our times.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: TeddySanFran: What a positive, illustrative exerpt.  I have <b><em>always</em></b> been an Edwards supporter.  </p>
<p>I have to say one thing about Obama.  I think he is, despite his ‘gay’ opinion, a good person.  He’s just too young for this job.  </p>
<p>To me John Edwards is the perfect fit.  <em>He’s the man for our times.</em></p>
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		<title>By: tonyroma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/29/obama-not-so-big-on-teh-gay/#comment-1065661</link>
		<dc:creator>tonyroma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I find the sentiments expressed here extremely disappointing and emblematic of why the Democrats continue to lose winnable elections by nominating the “safest” candidate instead of the most dynamic one.  Someone above mentioned that Obama enjoys McClurkin’s songs, as if this alone makes him a homophobe.  Newsflash:  One may like a Toby Keith song without ascribing to his political beliefs!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fact of the matter is that Obama has done more by his words and actions to lessen the legal and social burdens on the GLBT community than any other candidate running for office.  What part of “new politics” did any of you fail to understand?  Do you realize that it appears you’re advocating intolerance as a policy against those with whom you find disagreement?  It comes down to this:  Obama walks his talk, and in today’s political world even attempts at finding common ground with opponents should be respected as something Jesus himself would do, and something in our polarized environment that others don’t possess the integrity to even try.  You change people by exposing them to truth, not by turning your back on them because you disagree.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I posit that all those who now reject Obama as their choice never understood just who and what the man is made of in the first place.  He never said he was faultless or incapable of mistakes.  All he promised was to be true to himself and the principles that guide his life.  Maybe the rest of you are doing the same things, but I doubt many of you have been as visible or vocal on GLBT issues than has Barack.  Look at the complete picture, not just this hyper-inflaming snapshot.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the sentiments expressed here extremely disappointing and emblematic of why the Democrats continue to lose winnable elections by nominating the “safest” candidate instead of the most dynamic one.  Someone above mentioned that Obama enjoys McClurkin’s songs, as if this alone makes him a homophobe.  Newsflash:  One may like a Toby Keith song without ascribing to his political beliefs!</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that Obama has done more by his words and actions to lessen the legal and social burdens on the GLBT community than any other candidate running for office.  What part of “new politics” did any of you fail to understand?  Do you realize that it appears you’re advocating intolerance as a policy against those with whom you find disagreement?  It comes down to this:  Obama walks his talk, and in today’s political world even attempts at finding common ground with opponents should be respected as something Jesus himself would do, and something in our polarized environment that others don’t possess the integrity to even try.  You change people by exposing them to truth, not by turning your back on them because you disagree.</p>
<p>I posit that all those who now reject Obama as their choice never understood just who and what the man is made of in the first place.  He never said he was faultless or incapable of mistakes.  All he promised was to be true to himself and the principles that guide his life.  Maybe the rest of you are doing the same things, but I doubt many of you have been as visible or vocal on GLBT issues than has Barack.  Look at the complete picture, not just this hyper-inflaming snapshot.</p>
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		<title>By: stephanie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/29/obama-not-so-big-on-teh-gay/#comment-1065533</link>
		<dc:creator>stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The decision by Obama to feature McClurkin at this rally was as harmful to his campaign as Kerry’s statement was on the war, in his campaign (that if he knew then what he knows now he would vote the same way on Iraq). Both of these incidents took the wind out of the sails of their liberal support. Obama just lost me as a supporter. I don’t think I am alone.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The decision by Obama to feature McClurkin at this rally was as harmful to his campaign as Kerry’s statement was on the war, in his campaign (that if he knew then what he knows now he would vote the same way on Iraq). Both of these incidents took the wind out of the sails of their liberal support. Obama just lost me as a supporter. I don’t think I am alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Miss Hamshire, for your “dog-whistle” hypothesis about Obama’s motivation to be true, you have to suppose that Obama thinks that Democratic audiences are just teeming with secret gay-haters.  I know the world is more exciting when one is fighting oppression, but I don’t think that’s the case, and I don’t think Obama is stupid enough to think that’s the case either.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is a candidate allowed to honestly screw up, or must we always attribute malevolent motives to his conduct?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Hamshire, for your “dog-whistle” hypothesis about Obama’s motivation to be true, you have to suppose that Obama thinks that Democratic audiences are just teeming with secret gay-haters.  I know the world is more exciting when one is fighting oppression, but I don’t think that’s the case, and I don’t think Obama is stupid enough to think that’s the case either.</p>
<p>Is a candidate allowed to honestly screw up, or must we always attribute malevolent motives to his conduct?</p>
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		<title>By: t.a. barnhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>t.a. barnhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 04:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;sitting down here at the bottom, wasting my time to say that if you look at Obama’s record, and not just one event (for which we have hearsay, at least here at FDL), you see a man who supports GLBTs along with everyone else.  this is just more of the poor-us pissing and moaning going on on the left because one stinking election victory in 20 years didn’t change the country.  anybody feel like doing the real work of change?  that takes decades.  that takes a lifetime.  i am so tired of lefties who act like 6 yr olds.  sorry Obama doesn’t have a magic wand or fit your job description.  he’s still the best person, by far, for president.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;by far.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sitting down here at the bottom, wasting my time to say that if you look at Obama’s record, and not just one event (for which we have hearsay, at least here at FDL), you see a man who supports GLBTs along with everyone else.  this is just more of the poor-us pissing and moaning going on on the left because one stinking election victory in 20 years didn’t change the country.  anybody feel like doing the real work of change?  that takes decades.  that takes a lifetime.  i am so tired of lefties who act like 6 yr olds.  sorry Obama doesn’t have a magic wand or fit your job description.  he’s still the best person, by far, for president.</p>
<p>by far.</p>
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		<title>By: JDWPS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JDWPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is not a candidate who can be all things to all people. And I firmly believe that Obama has the purest motives of any of the candidates and that over the long haul he would make the best president. I do not expect to influence anyone but I feel compelled to speak up for him. I also, saw Richard Wolfe tonight, and I think he made good points.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is not a candidate who can be all things to all people. And I firmly believe that Obama has the purest motives of any of the candidates and that over the long haul he would make the best president. I do not expect to influence anyone but I feel compelled to speak up for him. I also, saw Richard Wolfe tonight, and I think he made good points.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1064323&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Biodun @ 13&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I started supporting Obama right from when he declared. But I abandoned him a long time ago (it seems). Now I see I did the right thing. He’s self-destructing, and this is a shame. A lot of us had high hopes. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Disclosure: I’m African-American. For me this usually doesn’t matter. But I’m afraid it does in this case.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m sorry this happened to “your” candidate. We all have hoped an African-American or a woman would rise to the top of Dem party politics. It seems this year they are being very seriously considered and that’s great. It’s a sign, at least within the Dem party, that prejudice is dropping away rapidly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It just doesn’t seem to be the year for Barack. OTOH, the fight against Hillary (from Edwards supporters) goes on and on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1064323"><em>Biodun @ 13</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I started supporting Obama right from when he declared. But I abandoned him a long time ago (it seems). Now I see I did the right thing. He’s self-destructing, and this is a shame. A lot of us had high hopes. </p>
<p>(Disclosure: I’m African-American. For me this usually doesn’t matter. But I’m afraid it does in this case.)</p>
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<p>I’m sorry this happened to “your” candidate. We all have hoped an African-American or a woman would rise to the top of Dem party politics. It seems this year they are being very seriously considered and that’s great. It’s a sign, at least within the Dem party, that prejudice is dropping away rapidly.</p>
<p>It just doesn’t seem to be the year for Barack. OTOH, the fight against Hillary (from Edwards supporters) goes on and on.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1064311&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tithonia @ 4&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I agree. I am rethinking my support for Obama.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is such a bizarre story. Who woulda thought this could ever be an issue in this campaign? Just out of the blue — weird.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m almost offended that all the great arguments I made for not supporting Obama are of no use if this other thing becomes THE big issue. Sheesh, politics is very strange.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1064311"><em>Tithonia @ 4</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I agree. I am rethinking my support for Obama.</p>
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<p>This is such a bizarre story. Who woulda thought this could ever be an issue in this campaign? Just out of the blue — weird.</p>
<p>I’m almost offended that all the great arguments I made for not supporting Obama are of no use if this other thing becomes THE big issue. Sheesh, politics is very strange.</p>
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		<title>By: David Ehrenstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Ehrenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“i believe you have been warning us for a while now, david… and not just in the la times, also right here in fdl threads. this is where you get to say “i was right”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Indeed, selise. The sweetest words in the english language are &lt;em&gt;“I told you so!”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“i believe you have been warning us for a while now, david… and not just in the la times, also right here in fdl threads. this is where you get to say “i was right”</p>
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<p>Indeed, selise. The sweetest words in the english language are <em>“I told you so!”</em></p>
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