I know you are all probably sick and tired of hearing me weep for the destruction of the ethical culture I once knew in DOJ. For the loss of the integrity and honor that was once the hallmark of that once great institution. However, it is important for people to understand the ramifications of this, not just for the rule of law, but for our safety.
The New York Times had an article with a really significant piece of information that for some reason is not getting a lot of play in the media. Adam Liptak and Leslie Eaton are reporting that in a Department of Justice that ordinarily enjoys a 92% conviction rate, the rate for terrorism cases is a shockingly low 29%.
From the Times:
There was a time when federal prosecutors would consistently win terrorism prosecutions.
From 1993 to 2001, prosecutors in Manhattan convicted some three dozen terrorists through guilty pleas and in six major trials.
Yes, that was back in the days when US Attorney SDNY Mary Jo White put her trust and confidence in Dave Kelley and Pat Fitzgerald and let them form the very first counter terrorism unit in a USAO in this country.
Since the Sept. 11 attacks, the government’s track record has been decidedly spottier, and its failure to obtain a single conviction on Monday in its terrorism-financing prosecution of what was once the nation’s largest Islamic charity was another in a series of missteps and setbacks. The comparisons are in some ways unfair, as the earlier prosecutions were for completed acts of violence — like the first World Trade Center attack or the 1998 bombings of American embassies in Africa — or for conspiracies that were relatively close to fruition.
I could not disagree more. The Day of Terror Plot and the Millennium Bomb Plot and the Manila Airplane Plot were hardly “easy” cases. And by foiling them BEFORE anyone got hurt, Mary Jo’s counter terror unit saved thousands of lives. She details these cases in an article in Middle East Quarterly published the spring before 9/11.
But some scholars and former prosecutors say the government should have known better than to bring some of its recent failed cases and that a lack of selectivity and judgment, along with a reliance on stale evidence and links to groups not at the core of the current threat, may be harming the effort to combat terrorism. The pre-9/11 cases brought in Manhattan, said Peter S. Margulies, a law professor at Roger Williams University in Rhode Island, “reflected U.S. attorneys and federal prosecutors at their best, using their discretion, bringing cases when they had strong cases and declining to bring them when they were weak.”
Let me tell you how it is supposed to work. Normally, when a AUSA thinks a case has been developed enough and is ready for indictment, you go to your unit chief and lay out what you have in the way of evidence, what statute(s) you want to charge under, and your theory of the case. This is usually done in a conversation, or more commonly several conversations during the course of the investigation as each element of each crime under consideration is developed. It’s good to keep your boss informed of your incremental progress both so he knows you’re not goofing off and because his advice will keep you headed in the right direction.
When you get to the point where you think you have a prosecutable case, your boss will give you the go ahead to start writing a draft indictment. Long ago when the earth was young and I still worked for government, I was the queen of the 300 page indictment. You would be surprised how often in the course of laying out each element of each charge I would suddenly realize that “oops” we were missing a piece and have to send the agents back to the salt mines. They hated that. When the draft indictment is finally done (weeks sometimes months after you “thought” your investigation was finished), it gets sent up the ladder.
Your unit chief has to approve it. Then the chief of the criminal division has to review it, sometimes there is an interim step (especially with complex cases or novel/sensitive cases) where a deputy criminal division chief has to review it. Then it goes to the executive floor where it gets reviewed by the senior people right under the US Attorney and finally by the US Attorney himself.
At every step in this process it can get kicked back because one of these people thinks it needs more proof or because someone believes your interpretation of the law is incorrect or unfair. At any step of this process it is not unusual for there to be a meeting where the case is “murder boarded”. PatFitz described that kind of a meeting [YouTube] in a speech he gave last week.
Material-support cases are just a small fraction of what the Justice Department counts as terrorism prosecutions, and in the larger picture the government is not doing nearly as well. According to the Center on Law and Security at the New York University School of Law, the government has a 29 percent conviction rate in terrorism prosecutions overall, compared with 92 percent for felonies generally.
Why? Because the process I just described has obviously been subverted with respect to cases that the Bush White House has been trying to shove down the throats of the US Attorneys.
Whether it’s trying to force Carol Lam to divert limited resources into more gun prosecutions, or trying to strongarm David Iglesias into bringing bogus corruption cases, or to digress over to the CIA where John Bolton and Dick Cheney tried to pressure the CIA into reaching conclusions not supported by the facts; the “stovepiping” of prosecutorial decisions, like the stovepiping of intelligence has broken our intelligence and law enforcement capabilities and MADE US LESS SAFE.
The system is designed to work from the bottom up, with each layer of review forcing the work product to become stronger, more polished and less likely to contain error. When the work product swims upstream it gets better and better. When the work product is force fed down the gagging throats of professionals, when the facts are manipulated and fixed around a predetermined outcome, you end up with cases you can’t prove and intelligence estimates you cannot rely on. And in the process you brutally strip people of basic constitutional protections, something we did not need to do when SDNY won all those convictions and stopped multiple plots each of which would have murdered thousands of people. This is not the way it’s supposed to be. [YouTube alert. More from Pat's speech.] As Mary Jo said:
In many ways, prosecuting terrorists is not much different from prosecuting other violent criminals. The laws are the same; the rules of evidence are the same; and, unlike in most other so-called civilized countries, terrorist defendants charged and tried in the United States are accorded all of the rights and protections given to every other accused defendant in our criminal justice system. That is how it should be. As proud as I am of the work of the prosecutors in my office that led to the convictions in these cases, I am even prouder of them and our entire criminal justice system because, despite the extreme seriousness of their crimes, all of these defendants were given an eminently fair trial and accorded every measure of due process that our laws provide.
She proved, time and time again that gutting the Constitution does not make us more safe, it MAKES US LESS SAFE.
In the trial that ended on Monday with a mix of acquittals and deadlocks, the Holy Land Foundation and several of its officials were charged with giving money to Hamas, the militant Palestinian organization designated a terrorist group by the United States in 1995. The Federal Bureau of Investigation started looking into Holy Land in 1993.
Legal experts said it could be hard to prosecute cases in which some of the evidence was quite old. Indeed, much of the evidence had been available to prosecutors in the Clinton Justice Department, and the material support law was enacted in 1996. But those prosecutors did not pursue the matter.
“There are some of these cases that we did not push — certainly aggressively, sometimes not at all — because we were in a different mindset before 9/11,” said Andrew C. McCarthy, who led the 1995 prosecution of Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind cleric convicted of conspiring to wage war against the United States.
What Andy appears to be trying to saying in a tactful and diplomatic way, is that pre-9/11 everybody in the DOJ thought they were bound to uphold the rule of law, but after Buscho and 9/11, well……?
So what to do? The tall man in the rumpled suit had some thoughts on that as well. [last YouTube alert.] Though his remarks had to do with public corruption at the state and local level in Chicago, I think they apply with equal wisdom to all corruption in office and the responsibility we have as citizens to demand our right to have honest government.
Related posts:
- The Bazaar for Deals at Guantanamo
- Isikoff Pops the Question: Newsweek Reporter asks Holder About Torture
- Tortured Logic: Government’s Own Words Fail Our National Ideals
- Some Alleged 9/11 Plotters to be Tried in SDNY, Storehouse of Evidence Untainted by Torture
- David Kris: Our Only Military Commission Convictions May be Illegal





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LHP!
Hey loosehead, terrific graphic, so appropriate for how this administration has let our precious Department of Justice go bad.
The restoration is going to take years. Let’s get started.
Wow! The first moving graphic on FDL, I believe. Good on you, PW!
OOps. LHP!
The record of this administration for prosecuting terrorists would have been better had Alfred E. Neuman been AG, rather than Ashcroft and Gonzalez.
Loo Hoo. @ 3
Snoopy dance, when we took the Senate.
Loo Hoo. @ 3
Actually, we had a Snoopy Dance last year. But you had to click on it.
Is there any way the next administration can review all new hires and promotions at the DOJ which occured under this one? It would seem to me everyone brought in is suspect of being a loyal bushie.
If these folks were hired because of their loyalty to Bush rather than the the rule of law, they must be fired for the same reason.
We’ve had a few moving graphics in the past. Howie tosses one in every now and then. But we try to be sparing with them because they can be a little wearying on the eyes going all at once. *g*
Great post! Thanks, LHP!
Why bother prosecuting them at all? Given the language in recent executive orders, why not just declare any individual with ‘counter productive opinions’ an enemy combatant and be done with it.
lhp — fine post — my sense of the mistrials in the Muslim charities case is that it hinted of jury nullification. The prosecution wasn’t lacking evidence so much as trying to convict people for running charities that funneled money to legitimate chartiable causes — hospitals — and the only connection to “terrorism” was that the money passed through organizations linked to Hamas. So the theory was, if you give to a charity that arguably helps Hamas recruit support — because it does genuine charitable work — you’re a supporter of terrorism.
By that measure, anyone who tries to argue that even Hamas sometimes has a valid point when it opposes certain Israeli actions (putting aside Hamas’own actions)could be indicted for “supporting terrorism.” It is a slippery slope, with no handholds.
So I think the larger problem here is the fear-based hysteria against anything Muslim, and the attempt to criminalize things that ought not to be subject to criminal statutes — it’s no wonder prosecutions are not succeeding.
scarecrow @ 12
There is a small bright spot in the fact that these prosecutions aren’t succeeding. Apparently, mindless fear isn’t enough to get a crap case past a jury yet, and there is something heartening in that.
LHP
Congratulations on writing an excellent article. Very informative. And, I love the PF you tubes.
It almost makes me feel hopeful this morning.
Thank you for spelling it out for those of us who say IANAL.
Sachem @ 11
That’s the point — we’re not that far from this, and if you listen to Fox News, many of the guests advocate exactly that while the hosts nod approvingly. We are the enemy, but not in the way Pogo meant.
looseheadprop,
Thank you so much another great article, and for taking the time to explain to everyone why what is happening at the DOJ affects their daily life. I wish I could convey how much I appreciate you, Christy and the others here with law degrees’ willingness to share your knowledge and experience.
January 20, 2009 can’t come soon enough for me, but who’s going to clean up the mess?
-S
Thanks for the post LHP, but with our capitulating Dems how will we ever restore the rule of law? I just got off the phone with a DNC fundraiser who tried to convince me that the only problem with Dems is they lacked enough votes. I told her that the problem with the Dems is that they agree with Bush’s policies. She said the media doesn’t tell us everything (fair enough), but when I pressed her on why Reid was blowing off Dodd’s hold on the FISA revisions coming out of the intelligence committee, she had no idea what I was talking about. What is so freaking hard for the Dem leadership to grasp about the concept that dismantling the Constitution and the rule of law is an exceedingly bad idea? I just don’t get it.
scarecrow @ 12
This Thursday will be the second anniversary of an event I had a hand in, in London – A benefit concert, where some of the proceeds went to GCMHP – Gaza Community Mental Health Programme, a group that deals with PTSD in Palestinian children. They have ties to Hamas. I keep waiting for the knock on the door. If my name were Ibrahim, it would have happened long ago.
Don’t miss the comment from my Chicago Tribune Sunday, hardly a “liberal” paper.
Apparently the entire case is based on a “theory” that supporting poor Palestinians helps Hamas in some far-fetched way.
The case against the foundation was particularly worrisome because of its dubious legal arguments. While the government acknowledged that every penny the foundation raised went to peaceful charitable relief, it argued that by providing legitimate charity to needy Palestinians, the foundation was intentionally freeing up Hamas’ charitable funds for terrorist activity. The government’s evidence to substantiate this ludicrous argument ranged from mention of the word “Hamas” by the defendants to textbook guilt by association.
Not surprisingly, the jury did not return a single guilty verdict on any of the 197 counts, and the case ended in a mistrial on Monday.
Yet the question remains: Why does the Bush administration continue to prosecute such far-fetched cases? Why does it see threats where none exist?
Time and again, we watched as the Bush administration announced a major “terrorism” case to much fanfare, only for the case to end with a fizzle. The administration’s most hyped-up terrorism cases — those of Sami Al-Arian in Florida and Muhammad Salah here in Chicago — both ended in full acquittals on all terrorism-related charges.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/…..2056.story
LHP
Thanks very much for this post. It puts into writing everything I had picked up intuitively, for example:
1. Govt terrorism conviction rate is very low. (Did I read correctly that the 29% INCLUDES plea agreements?)
2. The poblem is that the gov goes off half cocked with assertions but without evidence. Turns out you can’t convince courts without evidence, unlike voters who are easily convinced without evidence. One point for the courts.
3. I particularly liked your point about how the holes in the evidence become apparent during the writing process. I wrote an economics report on a weekly basis, and boy did I fugure that out quickly. Only when the writing began were the weaknesses revealed.
scarecrow @ 15
Yes I know, but i dislike my own snarking, it’s just that I watched Moyers after re-reading the executive order that really does make the anti-war movement illegal because it undermines efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, according to our fearless despots.
(((LHP)))
Sick and tired? Yes, but not of hearing from you! More like unutterably sad that your work and your colleagues’ has been so deeply damaged.
FunnyDiva
I think this is not unlike giving money to the Irish Northern Aid Committee in the ’70’s. Links to the IRA, but mostly helping women and children who had lost their fathers due to the violence in Northern Ireland.
Sachem @ 20
This from Sinclair Lewis’s It Can’t Happen Here:
Specifics a little different, but sentiment the same. Written in 1935, this is part of a platform of a candidate for POTUS.
OT,
Amy Goodman is looking a lot better this week on Democracy Now.
“We are the intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom of not merely the latest Great War but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of nearly every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.”
- Marcus Eli Ravage, the official Jewish Biographer for the Rothschild Family, in an article in The Century Magazine, January 1928, volume 115, no. 3 pp 346-350
al gore agrees with lhp – from jan 16, 2006:
With the current administration it is more like the whale is rotting from the headdown and the rot is quite advanced.
Beware of the circular reasoning which I expect to follow.
The argument goes something like this:
“Convictions are down, therefor we must give up more freedom to make ourselves safe. This will only have a negative impact on the guilty. If you question this logic, you must have something to hide.”
hwmnbn @ 8
I doubt that the civil service laws would permit that type of mass firing.
Sachem @ 21
That is a huge threat to anti-war groups and individuals. The Exec. branch can freeze assets via the Sec of the Treasury..no court no judge needed. You could wake up one morning and find that you had lost access to all financial resources, by fiat.
Sachem @ 11
Well, we are headed in the direction of the thought police.
Looseheadprop — Thanks so much for this post. Really appreciate all the work that went into it…
scarecrow @ 12
In short, the prosecutors were unable to show any malevolent intention on the part of the perpetrators?
From a WaPO editorial:
Steve-AR at 34 — Yes, Fred Hiatt really outdid himself in terms of wankerism on that one, didn’t he? SIGH
Steve-AR @ 34
I don’t think the Constitution makes any kind of requirement about being in the country.
JF @ 37
Need to look at the little-known section of footnotes in the Constitution. Have to look hard to find those asterisks in the main text.
egregious at 37 — Don’t forget about the invisible ink and the Federalist Society Secret Decoder Ring of Knowledge… *G*
Boy- We need Freddie Thompson- the DA who never loses.
thank you for explanation of the process…. quite interesting.
I really want to comment on the danger idea. Actually if you really look at what is going on, it’s so close to anarchy , it is frightening. The DOJ is not responding to criminal activity within the government. With your explanation of how things work, it looks easy , very easy, to stifle things if they are to be stifled.
I have a tremendous case of disability discrimination that has been stifled. So I would call it anarchy and I would call it dangerous
Christy Hardin Smith @ 39
Guess they used invisible ink on the Fourth, cause that’s disappearing as we speak.
rwcole @ 39
The moonshiners and bootleggers will be running for the hills when he gets elected!
OT, but related
SCOTUS has agreed to hear ExxonMobil’s appeal of damages of their Alaskan oil spill. Anyone want to take the other side of the bet as to the outcome?
This administration will get worse and worse every passing month—it’s the lamest of lame ducks and most are thinkin about how to get the fuck out of Dodge and land in a place of milk and honey. No one pays a bit of attention to the fuckin president any more- he’s a joke. Should be an interesting last 15 months.
rwcole @ 44
The Dem Congress listens to him. They give him everything he wants.
eCAHNomics @ 43
It’s only a formality.
mack @ 29
Yes, I am waiting for that one
OT.but another one from the WaPo editorial:
The Senate intelligence measure, which outlines one path for achieving this balance, is a badly needed contribution to what has been an unnecessarily partisan debate.
OT – Coming to an Oversight Committee near you on Wednesday:
Oil and Gas Exemptions in Federal Environmental Protections
On Wednesday the committee will hold a hearing to examine the applicability of federal environmental and health requirements to onshore oil and gas development. The hearing will also address the potential impact oil and gas activity has on the environment and the health of populations living near production areas.
You can file this under environmental justice.
egregious @ 38
So is there an asterisk that allows this?
Traffic Checkpoints Net More Than 100 Arrests
OKLAHOMA CITY — Authorities arrested more than 100 people during a 12-hour period at six checkpoints set up across the metro area over the weekend.
About 150 officers from the Oklahoma County Sheriff’s Departmentand the Oklahoma Highway Patrol participated in the operation designed to cut down on traffic violations and thwart other criminal activity.
I’ve seen these checkpoints before, but there was always some purported purpose, normally to “get drunk drivers off the roads.” Now it’s apparently become just a normal, routine thing.
Like in the old movies about Nazi Germany, “You vill show me your papers, please.”
Terrorism plot thwarted in Iran.
eCAHNomics @ 44
no.
MayDaze @ 50
Ah, hey, all I’ve got’s a pipe, man!
evildrpuma
I actually think this is very small consolation. It’s pretty clear they don’t actually care about convictions. In fact, it’s very clear they are not interested in trials. As long as they can capture people, hold them without charge and parade them around as representatives of the evil bogeyman that require the mainteance of an authoritarian state, which is perilously close to a facist state, given the interlocking private organizations.
looseheaprop @ 48
Or, “Convictions are down because Amerika is safer. We are ‘catching’ them before they come into the country.”
I expect this to be said despite the fact we are looking at positive conviction rate #’s. Oh the spin we’ll be in…
dakine01 @ 54
Yoouu’rree busted! – Cheech and Chong, Big Bambu
Christy Hardin Smith @ 33
Damn, wrote a really long comment thanking Christy for turning me on to the NYTimes article and to Twolf! for creating the PatFitz speech clips youtubes, and word press ate it.
I fact wordpress is ieating all my reposnses!!
jayackroyd @ 55
Excellent point.
As a specific example, what will happen to all the funds confiscated from Holyland? Guess Muslims will never get anything back, as gov will keep something going in the legal sys forever.
After 01/20/09 who would be the best person to lead the DOJ; especially to prosecute the criminality of the VRWC?
MayDaze @ 57
And even if the designated driver is sober, the passengers risk arrest for having too much to drink?
lou @ 41
Think how many line assistants are put under the same kind of pressure that Comey, Goldsmith, Philbin and the rest faced. Think how hard it must be to have bad cases foisted upon you from above.
Think how much it must reall suck to have your own professional judgement and the professional judgement of your more experienced supervisors who ARE SUPPOSD TO BE TEACHING YOU HOW TO BE A BETTER LAWYER, just shunted aside to bring politically motivated proscutions.
I really like the clip form PatFitz’s speech where he says “honest government is not a dream”..
I like the tone of his voice when he said it. I like the combination of certainty and yearning. I exactly captured how I feel.
Ot: Dodd voting against Mukasky
OT
wnyc just replayed Nixon’s apology to David Frost during the famous interview. Bet we’ll never get an apology from W.
In my scandals list, I have covered various cases:
Padilla 131
Moussaoui 274
Holy Land Foundation 270
In my entry 10 on the MCA I note that there has been a push from higher up to bring the most spectacular charges possible in the Guantanamo cases.
I agree with lhp that there is a political component to how similar cases are being handled in the federal courts. But I would add that prosecutors as exemplified in the Moussaoui case did not do a good job and that both judges and prosecutors need to establish some serious guidelines as to how such trials should be conducted.
I have also been considering an entry on the Lackawanna 6. This group included some seriously bad actors but those who went to jail appeared more like clueless saps and despite all the hoopla at the time for being such hardend “terrorists” their sentences were IIRC in the 7 year range. That is not the kind of sentence you would expect given the accusations.
solai @ 60
Without having all the facts, I would still guess that those nine were riders with the 16 DUIs or 12 drug busts.
Steve-AR @ 60
Comey as AG. He knows all the DOJ compenenets and already knows how stand up to the White House.
PatFitz for DAG–he really really understands the USAO of the DOJ and has a real talent for empowering people to do their own personal best, while not crowding them.
solai @ 61
Appears so. From what I’ve heard, even opening your front door after imbibing can get you busted for public intoxication (assuming the guy at the door is a cop).
Thanks, LHP. This is yet another example of Broken Government from the people who believe government can be broken to their will.
Never put people in charge of something when their political philosophy dictates its destruction. Unless, of course, you want it destroyed.
Hugh @ 65
It’s because post 9-11 the cases came from the top down, instead of rising from the botttom up on their merits like cream rising to the top of the millk
I don’t understand how an adult could equate a “terrorism” based trial as anything but a tv show? This administration’s best friends are terrorists. They ended democracy by using invisible terrorists to scare people into shit fits.
There is no benefit to this government of bringing these fake terrorists to trial. They won’t do it because it will make them look more absurd than they are. The few that go to trial can’t be convicted, as the evidence then points to criminal involvement, tampering and any number of offenses that will give the defendant a mistrial, or have the charges dismissed.
why do we continue to pretend there is any justice?
OT, our phony news FEMA friend may not get the new job after all. Via Think Progress:
UPDATE: The AP reports that Philbin’s hiring has been put on hold by the DNI, and McConnell is now “weighing whether to hire” him.
oldtree at 71 — Because there is. I’ve seen it, participated in it, and asked that it be meted out on a daily basis in my lifetime. As has LHP. Never, ever judge an entire system of government based on the bad acts and horrid intentions of a few — it is a broad generalization that does not hold up to individual scrutiny.
Great David Horsey cartoon: Boooooooo!
oldtree @ 71
I don’t know that these defendants are “fake” terrorists. For all I know they could be masterminds of huge Day fo Terror type plots. And htat’s the problem, we don’t know, because the proesuciton decisons are not being made in the normel way.
It’s one thing for an Administration to set law enforcement priorities. It’ s a legitiamte thing to do.
It’s another to try to impose quotas or demand prosecutions where none are meritted (as happened with some of the fired USAs)for some collateral purpose.
It used to be a case had to survive the review process on its own merits
Christy Hardin Smith @ 73
There is another part of PatFitz’s speech not included in the excerpts above where he says that when you indict someone, whether you convict them or not, you have basically ruined their lives. And for that reason, a prosecutor has not think about not only “can I indict this person?”=do I have probabale casue to indict, but also “should I indict this person”= AmI sure I can convict? Am I sure I should convict?
Not too many lay people realize how much time ethical prosecutors spend on that last question.
btw, fresh thread for anyone who wants one…
With that in mind, I think this is worth a looksee. Persecution is persecution, no matter WHO the victim is.
http://www.legitgov.org/action_palfrey_doj.html
LHP at 76 — I used to wrestle with that constantly. It is such a difficult thing to decide to indict another human being — even when you know in your heart of hearts they are absolutely guilty and caught dead to rights. Because you are not just ruining their lives, you are also doing that to their families and friends, and unfortunately far too often to victims (in sexual abuse cases especially, because they then have their own lives dragged through all layers of hell on cross examination and beyond).
There is so much to the job that people who have never done it do not see. As it should be, frankly, because the cases you choose to not indict due to lack of evidence should not see the light of day. But that doesn’t mean that you do not have personal pangs about sending another human being to the penitentiary for the rest of his or her life. That should never, ever be an easy choice for anyone. If it is, they should not be prosecuting.
looseheaprop @ 62
“Honest government is not a dream” would be a winning campaign slogan.
KLynn — Slogan, hell. Could we get it for real? That would be excellent…
Christy Hardin Smith @ 81
Well, the idea is to “win” the election and try to restore IT for real. Stay with me Christy, I’m trying to get there! Honest and for real!
But you have to admit, it’s a convincing phrase. I can see my son putting it on a t-shirt and wearing it with conviction!
I may put it on a t-shirt of my own. *g*
There has never been a true culture of ethics at DOJ.
Has it been lost on anyone including looseheadprop that the FBI (DOJ’s thoroughly dishonest cop agency whose lab routinely fakes results) and the Pentagon have abused the 4th amendment and the so-called poorly named Patriot Act with “Security Letters” that constituted subpoenas for all kinds of personal information including bank accounts in cases that number in the several thousands?
Judge Orders FBI to Turn Over Thousands of Patriot Act Abuse Documents
Frequent Errors In FBI’s Secret Records Requests
Officials may face firing over ’security letters’
First of all, what is seldom highlighted is that if you cull the backgrounds of the 700 plus federal trial and appellate judges, a distressingly high percentage of them has no federal litigation experience. This is seldom showcased, but it is true. Further of the population of them that has any litigation experience in a federal courtroom prior to taking the bench, a huge percentage come from the ranks of former US Attorneys bringing their “crush the defense” agenda, the culture of overwhelming resources that the defense bar does not have, and their heavily weighted FRE with them.
It has frequently been SOP for an AUSA to pretend to loose significantly exculpable discovery including highly exculpable tapes and wiretaps.
That “culture of ethics” mantra is a hackneyed grandfathered phrase that has often been simply false. Many who have ligitaged against them for any length of time would soundly disagree with this assertion.
The low conviction rate is fortunate, given the erratic way that DOJ has accused so many clearly innocent people of being terrorists, rendered some of them and elicited a State Secrets cowing from the Supreme Court in the first case against them for rendering to file a cert. petition.
This is in the context of a No Fly list that has balooned to over 100,000 people who have no ability to address the false lables through byzantine means until after their trip has been ruined, and if that atrocious number were really accurate then why aren’t more cases brought against that prodigious population?
The US Attorney in charge of that list appeared on 60 minutes and looked like a fool who could not possibly have graduated high school given her vocabulary and her eggregious answers and total incompetence and lack of insight into the list.
What is not mentioned enough here is that the DOJ has promulgated for years a culture of eviscerating the Bill of Rights and continues it with the soon to be AG Mikey the Mucasey who handed down one of the viscious series of material witness abuse rulings in the history of the federal judiciary and Fed. Supp. adopting what the DOJ (now completely devoid of any ethics and more importantly using completely illegal tatics as SOP) pushed.
If you have had any illusions of safety with the Bush administration, you have really bought into the systemic politics of fear and more fear hook, line, and sinker.
Jon Stewart nails them well, mocking Bush’s statement asking “Which security breach do you want me to let succeed?”
911 was a pretty large one he let succeed for starters.
Fran Townsend, Cheney, Addington, the Yoo crowd, Viet Dinh have all been incompetent bozos eviscerating your 4th amendment and irreversibly injuring the rest of the Bill of Rights for several generations.
It’s crucial to note as well that you have a Deomcratic Congress that is so Cowed and Caving that it is going along with every facet of evisceration of your rights that DOJ has pushed.
One of the favorite tactics of the DOJ that loose head prop mourns was full of “integrity and honor” was to take a 500 page bill full of measures that stripped normal congressional duties like the extension of interim appointments of US Attorneys and throw it on the desk in the wee hours of Friday morning. This has been done routinely and it is done so that the whiz kids who are graduates of Ivy league law schools can’t study the bills for the titular King and Queen, the Senator or the Senatress, to study.
Many of the Senators and Senatresses have admitted they didn’t read the Patriot Acts that have been delivered in the wee hours the morning of the vote in a thoroughly dishonest tactic to make sure the bills don’t get read by anyone voting on them or their staffs.
I think it’s important to underscore that State Secrets, the politics of redaction, and selective leaks are certainly not just a Republican MO. The democrats have been doing this consistently in the 109th and 110th Congress.
The government’s arguments in the two 9th Circuit State Secret cases against the Telcos has been pathetically stupid, and one of the panel correctly invoked Alice in Wonderland at the last day of two oral arguments.
This argument represents the quintessence of the DOJ in the past, present, and future and what is even more distressing and seldom recognized at FDL is that the Democrats are completely supporting this endorsement of State Secrets as has the S. Ct. already in its cert. denial in the El Masri torture and rendition case because State Secrets was the engine that drove the government’s briefs in the 4th Circuit case that was denied cert. Pathetically the S. Ct.could not muster more than three or possibly any votes to review the pathetic State Secrets defense which the DOJ uses as a coverup for any manner of law breaking now.
Thanks, SCOTUS, for another blow to justice!
LHP also failed to mention that the government, including US Attorney Roslynn Mauskopf’s totally false distortion on a par with Bill O’Reilly (great company for Mauskopf to be keeping), totally micharacterized the recent so-called fear mongering of the Bush Administration in their distortion of the so-calledKennedy airport fuel line plot. Mauskopf coordinated with NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly, the father of FNC correspondent Greg Kelly in her absurd distortions.
“I think her comments were over the top,” said Michael Greenberger, director of the Center for Health and Homeland Security at the University of Maryland. “It was a totally overstated characterization that doesn’t comport with the facts.”
Maukoph, of course had gotten the memo for press releases by the actual attorney until he left the West Wing, general Karl Rove–not an attorney but that doesn’t seem to matter anymore at DOJ.
Does DOJ stand for Distortion of Jursiprudence or is it Dissembling of Jokesters?
Papers Portray Plot as More Talk Than Action
O’Reilly Falsely Claims NYT Failed To Cover JFK Terror Plot On Front Page
Citizens can demand until they are blue in the face, but the Congress continues to kick those demands to the curb.
This Adminstration is being rubber stamped by every Democratic leader in Congress and no one is paying much attention to attorney and SJC and SSIC member Russ Feingold who has consistently seen through them.
The current rubber stamping of the Intel bill that gives total immunity to Telcos and future discretion as to whether the Telcos have violated the wiretapping laws to whichever corrupt AG is in place is a metaphor for this.
Watch the Dems rush to rubber stamp whatever Bush wants on this bill as it greases through Senate Judiciary on Wednesday to quick approval.
Again, again, the bottom line is I don’t care who fillibusters and it’s pathetic that it only seems to be Dodd–possibly Joe Biden willing to–but ya gotta have 60 votes to invoke cloture and with all the democratic defector sell outs the Administration has that as a slam dunk. This party’s way over and the fat lady sang long ago.
Since as everyone knows, most of the switching and circuitry for any of these calls is located in the US I don’t care what Mickey Mouse distinctions are made about calls overseas to and from yada yada and yada, your ass is tapped now and it’s going to continue to be because your democrats have been completely cowed–completely runnover by the politics of fear. It is the one infrastructural mantra of the republicans. I see it constantly from the Bush administration, and I see it from Republicans on the local level.
The motto of any DOJ and this administration is fear mongering, fear mongering, and more distorted fear mongering and it’s worked to gut the Constitution which is now a meer shell of itself.
There is no doubt that the EOUSA and any Deputy AGs even the career people who are powerless now are figurehead puppets of the West Wing. Fred Fielding and Addington are the actual string pullers at DOJ and that culter is never going to change.
Bless you, LHP.
LHP, one of the reasons that the Dems are being pushed to accept Mukasey is the idea that DoJ needs some leadership — ANY leadership — right now.
You’ve just made an excellent case for not accepting anyone that Bush appoints, and waiting until January of 2009.
Pete Pierce @ 84
As far as I can tell, your entire list of abuses all happened during the Shrub administration, right? The DOJ I am lamenting existed during the years PRIOR to the Shrub administration.
It was a different set of rules then. Evidently, those rules still seem to be in operation in Chicago and there may e some hold outs in other pats of the country that are under the radar. I want the rules and traditions back.
Pet Pierce at 84,
Wordpress ate my comment quoting yours, so I will try again.
The list of things you have in your comment are, as far as i can tell, all abuses that occured during the Shrub admin.
The DOJ I lament for was pre- Shrub. Back when there were rules and ethics and you rarely even knew the party affiliaitions of you colleagues.
And yes, the statement Roz mauskauph issued about the kennedy Airport “plot” was over the top, but it hasn’t stopped her from getting confirmed to the federal bench.
great! Now both comments have popped up. Ergggh!
A big part of the truth is that cases are being brought for a broader political agenda and also to ramp up the fear protocols.
Even the “wins” have often been losses for those who respect the law. And the losses on some of these cases haven’t been just legal losses, but diplomatic and world prestige losses as well. Since when do you actually trot into court and say that it is a crime to give money to hospitals bc they also treat terrorists suspects? We have govt policies that are making life excruciating for the people throughout the ME and on top of that take the best PR sales points groups like Hezbollah and Hamas have (providing humanitarian support to some of the people afflicted) and stand up and say we will go after anyone who involves themselves or their organization in humanitarian efforts, if those also mean someone in the Hamas party (and just how big is it, btw) gets a bandaid?
Stupid.
Flat stupid on so many different fronts. Obviously, groups that are laundering fronts need to be addressed on that basis, but if you can’t and you go ahead and bring a case anyway on those kinds of grounds, you lose a lot more than just that case.
And a case like Fitzgerald’s own Salah case gets pushed for its own reasons. It was by and large a loss, and yet, tactically, it set the precedent stage bc it allowed in coerced and possibly tortured confessions with only a masked and cloaked attribution “source” Gee, I wonder (GITMO) when and how (GITMO) we might need (GITMO) case law support (GITMO) for being able to introduce (GITMO) torture confessions (GITMO) from only cloaked (GITMO) identity (GITMO) sources?
And the winners? Like the “Ninjas in the basment” California case? *sigh*
So far, the USAs have willingly lined up to argue against rights to an attorney (Clement and Comey pushing Mukasey until he said their arguments were ridiculous) and to argue that a defendant couldn’t review his own statements given in interrogation bc they were “classified” and the defendant wasn’t security cleared to hear his own words; they’ve cooked up unfounded arguments to block or invade attorney client exchanges; they’ve argued, in the plane case, the existence of classified laws where the defendant and judges even could not know what they law was (it’s classified) but would just have to take the work of the USA’s office that the classified law existed and was broken; etc. etc. etc.
It’s not just a matter of the institution rotting because of decisions made at the head – - it’s a matter of those within the institution choosing putrification and to rot their souls over stepping away and refusing to be a part of the decay.
But however we got there, we are there. Reading Scott Horton on the “bama” prosecutions gives you an affintiy for bulemics.
One outcome of this is corruption of the work product, the avoidance of prosecutions harmful to the current regime, allowance of routine prosecutions considered neutral, and a harsh focus on politically motivated prosecutions. They needn’t lead to convictions: in an administration led almost exclusively by PR flacks, it is the headlines that count. Just as wars needn’t lead to peaceful co-existence; collapsing civil rights, diverting hundreds of billions to the military and outsourced government contractors, and tripling the price of oil are just fine, thank you.
Another lethal outcome is corruption of the bureaucracy. One of Cheney’s favorite past times. This corruption disrupts existing informal communications and patronage networks. New ones are formed beholden to the new lords and bishops; these are open only to those who speak Norman French, not Anglo-Saxon.
Those opposed to the new overlords are instantly put in the worst light. Loyalty to the law, due process or rational allocation of resources are deemed insubordination, lying or obstruction. Normal vulnerabilities such as family commitments, debts or the need to avoid a cloud on the resume for a career dependent on security clearances, are manipulated to assure conformity.
Other than for the occasional Don Quixote, the least ethical, the most lazy or politically ambitious stay; their moral and careerist opposites go. That necrology corrupts the organization and cements in place all but the most obvious or infamous excesses.
All of which means that for a Democratic administration to succeed, it will take more than business as usual.
Bingo! Give that man a gold star
earlofhuntingdon @ 91
OK, you made my point better than I did. Bravo!!!! (LHP stands and claps)
The earl became an outlawed provocateur in Sherwood. It takes a LHD, Jane and Marcy to make the wider world work well, or at least better. But happy to help.
LHP — great post — this is definitely something that should be pushed in the media more. I do appreciate that during the time you were there DOJ had a different culture from the dysfunctional one which exists today.
Looseheaprop–
I apologize for the mispellings. I tried, but not hard enough to proof. It should have been “culture” in the last sentence.
I haven’t seen many of your posts before, and am sorry to have missed them. I look forward to many more.
I want to make clear that I didn’t want to appear to be painting DOJ with such broad brush strokes that would be so foolish and wrong not to recognize that there were and are many dedicated, talented attorneys at DOJ, and no doubt you were one of them.
It is true that many of the abuses that were political and the culture so distorted took hold during the Bush administration. But certainly not all, and some of them are the most important. We both know how over his head Gonzales was. It was shocking to me to see someone appointed AG who had virtually no federal litigation experience, and many of us could care less that “Fredo” Gonzales was on the Supreme Court of Texas. He was clearly in an environment that was over his head on so many levels, and it is very easy to discern that Gonzales perceived AG as an extension of being the President and West Wing’s protector and legal counsel rather than the administrator for an independent non-political branch.
Certainly the continued rearing of Hans von Spakovsky’s head is evidence of culture corruption at DOJ and the deteriorating hold that the Bush administration’s attorneys in the West Wing have on it.
I can’t imagine what you and your collegues, that you respected at DOJ, thought of twits like Monica Goodling and Kyle Sampson with a law degree from a law school that is a joke coming from a job as an “opposition researcher.” Rachel Brand and a cast of others on that DOJ forced resignation bus due to law breaking behavior also come to mind.
You could not have had more inexperienced individuals with no federal ligitation experience conducting interviews of Immigration Judge candidates and vetting federal judicial candidates as well. These twits also had career decision making and evaluation input into the careers of seasoned US Attorneys like Bud Cummings in Arkansas that was unprecedented.
What the hell were twits like these doing at EOUSA?
And why the hell didn’t the ranks of US Attorneys bitch hugely about it? They just shrugged it off, not making a peep until Gonzales had conspicuously made a clown of himself by his actions and his surreal testimony before SJC.
I want to hear one solid argument that Monica Lewinsky who isn’t trained as an attorney could not have done a better job than Monica Goodling and Sampson with less damage to DOJ.
Goodling with no litigation experience whatsoever, was given the duty of vetting immigration judges and making major personnel decisions impacting career U.S. Attorneys.
Rachel Brand, with no litigation experience whatsoever, was Assistant AG for the Office of Legal Policy and Acting Assistant Attorney General, Principal Deputy AG at OLC, LOL focusing on the “war on terrorism” until forced to resign in July. You could see her sitting in the coaching/briefing section for Alito and Roberts during their hearings. These are two individuals who will make the significant damage inflicted by Renquist, aptly underscored by Alan Dershowitz, numerous times, pale in comparison for the next 30 or more years and push the S. Ct. considerably closer to a Star Chamber
While Brand was Anthony Kennedy’s clerk and a clerk in the Massachusettes Supreme Court, she lacked any significant federal litigation experience. It matters little that she made Harvard law review. She had top responsibilities at DOJ without ever having litigated in a federal court room.
I don’t know if you’re aware that the ranks of immigration judges appointed by DOJ are replete with individuals who have no litigation experience in an immgration court and often in a federal courtroom who have to continually ask attorneys what they should do.
Also if a case is in the Soutern District of Florida in Miami vs. the Northern District of Georgia, and an argument for asylum is made on the grounds of danger and death if the immigrant is deported, the rates of granting asylum vary from 95% denied in Georgia by most immigration judges to 95% granted in Miami by most immigration judges.
When the Voting Rights Committee of seasoned DOJ career people decided against many of the ID requirements of Republican secretary of state, the Bush administration inserted political hacks to overrule them.
Often not underscored by the mainstream press as well are the fact that concerning immigration is that the wait for legitimate immigration in many districts is routinely 10-15 years in a bureaucracy that spanned from the Carter administration through the current Bush administration.
Often not underscored by mainstream press as well is that immigration judge jobs have often been plums awarded politically in every administration.
Abuses Common to Any Administration
There are three factors that have been prevelant in current administrations all the way back through Franklin D. Roosevelt.
1) Again, the ranks of federal trial and appellate judges who are not drawn from former US Attorneys and that figure is upwards of 85-90%, have NO, and I hope everyone can read NO previous experience litigating in a federal court room.
The Eleventh Circuit has several judges who never litigated a federal trial case in any capacity and never had to “craft” or argue a federal motion of any type in a federal trial or appellate court, or write a federal appellate brief or appear at a federal appellate oral argument.
I’d make the analogy of this eggregious lapse in experience for many federal judges of having a surgeon do mastectomies or significant trauma surgery with no training whatsoever. That’s exactly what that is tantamount to and it causes the same degree of damage.
Just as subspecialty surgeons have to present hundreds of cases in specified areas before they can take their Boards, any individual who takes the federal bench should be required to have litigated so many federal civil cases and so many federal criminal cases.
This should be legislated by Congress, and this requirement should include Deputy AGs and AGs as well and anyone who gets a job in the EOUSA. It would have prevented some of the desintigration at DOJ in the Shrub regime.
2) and 3) Further, the Federal Rules of Evidence (FRE) and Federal Rules of Criminal Proceedure (FRCrP) have been heavily weighed towards the government (your old office) since Roosevelt if not before then.
These rules are promulgated largely by former US Attorneys with an unwavering “screw the defense bar” agenda. 28 U.S.C. § 2073(b) and 28 U.S.C. § 2073(a)(2) stacks five advisory committees and a standing committee stacked largely with former AUSAs hardwired with a pro-prosecution agenda and they submit the rules they write to a Judicial Conference that his heavily weighted with right winged former AUSAs during any Presidential administration.
Despite the allegation that meetings of rule committees are widely open to the public and widely announced, the “public” hardly knows they exist.
The interpretations of these rules when not made by “former AUSA judges” are largely made by judges again with no prior litigation experience in a federal courtroom.
Finally, I think that bloggers on blogs like this one need to look at one very nasty truth.
The Democrats are consistently and in unwavering fashion enabling every scintilla of illegal Bush behavior by going along with Republican rubber stampers every single step of every single markup and every single piece of legislation reported out of any committee, because they are cowed by the politics of fear. They are also approving every single right-winged Judicial candidate like Southwick and countless others. Ferragamo Feinstein will lead any Republican charge that moves.
The print and TV media is dim witted and few of them recognize this partly because they are cowed by the politics of fear. Have you witnessed former U.S. Attorney Fran Townsend’s idiot press conferences lately?
You’re certainly right. Ros Mauskopf, is a new Judge in the Eastern District of New York. She has of course, never worked in any defense capacity whatsoever consistent with the ranks of the Federal Judiciary being a perk predominantly for former US Attorneys and the other population is ridiculously people who have never litigated in federal court period. Her parents were both holocaust survivers, and ironically, now she will have the chance to impose several Naziesque rulings onto the defense bar and their clients–the type that would have made Hitler proud. Her lack of judgement is evident in the way she was cowed and made distortion after distortion in quotes to the press about the alleged Kennedy airport plot as did the pathetic candidate, Rudy 911 propelling a candidacy based on exponential fear mongering.
I want to emphasize that no one objective with your type experience could coutenance Judge Micheal Mukasey’s eggregious adoption of the US Attorneys material witness abuses or his nasty comments towards a defendent who was in fact severely beaten or his clearly stupid remark that the defendant didn’t look like he had any medical problems. Had Mukasey any significant experience in an emergency room, (highly unlikely since it is doubtful he could get into or stay in med school for any length of time) he would learn you don’t “haul off and look” at people to assess whether they have severe internal bleeding from the blunt abdominal trauma that this defendent received.
Maybe that’s an attribute of a PBWT (Patterson Belknap) partner I’m not aware of.
Before the hearing, Mr. Awadallah told his lawyer that he had been beaten in the federal detention center in Manhattan, producing bruises that were hidden beneath his orange prison jumpsuit. But when his lawyer told this to Judge Mukasey, the judge seemed little concerned.
“As far as the claim that he was beaten, I will tell you that he looks fine to me,” said Judge Mukasey, who was nominated by President Bush last week to be his third attorney general and is now facing Senate confirmation hearings. “You want to have him examined, you can make an application. If you want to file a lawsuit, you can file a civil lawsuit.”
The problem with the idiot statement Mukasey made medically is that someone severely beaten in the areas where this defendant was can, and often does get into a critical situation from internal bleeding in a matter of minutes and the bleed would have nothing to do with “how it looked” to Mukasey or anyone else, nor would it have to start at any given period of time.
Filing a law suit based on the Supreme Court rulings of “deliberate indifference” applied to medical care in a prison is not on the same planet with timely quality emergency care in Manhatten.
One wonders how loudly Mukasey would whine if he, his wife, or a member of his family were beaten similarly. Would he be rushed to the hospital, or would he expect to “file a civil suit.” That’s the Mukasey standard of care, and more importantly reveals what an idiot this individual is and how biased he is unless the client is a large corporation paying huge fees to PBWT.
“Even though Mr. Awadallah was not charged at the time with any crime and had friends and family in San Diego who would vouch that he had no terrorist ties, Judge Mukasey ordered that he be held indefinitely, a ruling he made in the cases of several other so-called material witnesses in the Sept. 11 investigations. A prison medical examination later identified the bruises across his body.
Judge Mukasey’s comments at the 2001 hearing were revealed in a once-secret 16-page transcript provided to The New York Times by a lawyer for Mr. Awadallah.”
There’s an excellent chance that had this prisoner needed serious medical care, he sure as hell would have not gotten it under the wing of the B.O.P.
Post-9/11 Cases Fuel Criticism for Nominee
Pete Pierce
Just wan to make one thing very clear. I have not worked for the governement for a VERY long time. I still maintain relationships with old friends and colleagues from those days, but I certainly was not around for the Monica Goodling days.
The immorality shown by the Bush Administration is the scariest thing about them. It’s what happens when we let rich thugs run things.
The Republican Party is the Nazi Party.