Are there any good books about Al Queda? I feel I know nothing about them?

What do you know?

IIRC The Looming Tower is supposed to be pretty good.

In Huntington Beach, in the north end of Orange County, they do not put bus schedules on the bus stops. Because… “criminals could use buses to get away.”

It’s all suburbs, all white, nobody knows their neighbors, and nobody stays anywhere for more than a few years. There are a few oases like Laguna Beach.

cinnamonape @ 171

Yeah…big loophole there regarding waivers for extradition for “Political Crimes”. Impeachable offenses are “political crimes”. I doubt that many of the acts that would be viewed as impeachable (e.g. denying individuals access to lawyers, or holding them without habeas corpus) have any sort of criminal law that covers them at all.

I thought we were talking about the war crimes that the French want Rumsfeld for. Those seem to be covered under the treaty. IANAL

It’s a US-Paraguayan Treaty. Not a French-Paraguayan Treaty. And there’s also a clause in there about the treaty not allowing “third party” extradition…the crimes have to have occurred in the territories of either of the signatories. Thus crimes in Iraq would not be covered.

Now it’s possible that the EU nations have their own extradition treaties that don’t have this clause, or that Rummy committed some crime on their own territory that would allow extradition back there.

But nothing in the US-Paraguayan Treaty would allow them to be hauled out unless it nails them for a CRIME (under US Criminal law) in the US.

Ahmad Chalabi back in focus:

Ahmad Chalabi, the controversial, ubiquitous Iraqi politician and one-time Bush administration favorite, has re-emerged as a central figure in the latest U.S. strategy for Iraq.

TPM

Saw that in this McCalatchy report

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclat…..ditor_ytop

But what really pissed me off (unusual for McClatchy reporting) was that they never stated precisely what Chalabi DID that caused him to fall out of favor in the eyes of the US government.

Chalabi is an opportunist of the first order. The Neo-Cons used his lies to get us into the war…remember “Curveball” and a host of other “former Baathist intelligence agents” that Chalabi marched out before reporters like Judy Miller to make the most outrageous statements. They bandied him up as the great unifying leader but were stymied when even his fellow Shi’a turned their noses up at him.

They gave him the job of “De-Baathification” Minister. Which he actually did very well at…making him hated by most Sunnis.

He also traded in US military secrets and documents with Iran (which the Neo-Cons in the Bush Administration willing gave him because they were his bosom buddy). He did this to win over Iranian support so that he could use their influence on SCIRI.

He knew that he had no real support within Iraq. His “party” received about as many votes as the Constitution Party did in the last US Election. I think the Party of Silly Walks polled more.

Now he’s suddenly back in the “good graces” of the US military??? Despite being a broker of classified information? Yeah…this is a sign of utter desperation!

OT: How Anti-Union, Anti-Tax OC Conservatives Defeated Adequate Fire Protection in 2005

Yeah. And the three amigos (Bilbray, Issa and Hunter) act like the great saviors in SoCal for getting military aircraft to help put out fires. Course they wouldn’t follow civilian command so they went to certain fires… If all of our money wasn’t being spent on the occupation, and most of our national guard wasn’t fighting in it, we could have the best firefighting aircraft in the world. But that is lost on the San Diego sheeple.

May, it’s wikipedia.

Lots of great info!

thanks Loo hoo

signed: Ima Nidiot.