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		<title>By: Myrtle June</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/28/i-guess-we-cant-have-it-all/#comment-1063689</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrtle June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Really? Desperation will give us Hillary Clinton, who is in NO way qualified for this. She’s an actor in the pubbie script. We are NOT desperate and by acting desperate will give us another loss, another thug, or another thug in Hillary. There’s no differenct in her plans and bush’s. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She’s not the “winner” you all so want so badly. Thanks, I’d rather have the MOST qualified for the job regardless of gender or race. A person whose words match up with their actions in a consistant fashion. One who isn’t into the pubbie top-down parental speak and selling out of our citizens for benefit of busine$$. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hillary clinton will insure the rethugs of an easy win (and a slew of easy sticks to beat us with on the way) or she will continue their programs….. either way its “4 more years”. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All should realize they are being marketed to here. Look past that. We are not desperate. We have it in the bag if only someone would stand up there and tell the truth and take action instead of trying to play the pubbies’ petty game and beat them at it. We are better than this. That person won’t be “winning”, they’ll be LEADING….. and they wouldn’t have to pander to any group because all those groupings would fall away under the weight of the truth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As the Democratic leadership stands right now, it is already lost. They are framing this under republican rules… that’s not taking your power back, its getting permission from the pubs. Until they stand up and do the right thing, it is lost. Thank you Democratic party, The Nancy Congress, and most of all to the most selfish unqualified woman in history, the wife of bill clinton. gack.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? Desperation will give us Hillary Clinton, who is in NO way qualified for this. She’s an actor in the pubbie script. We are NOT desperate and by acting desperate will give us another loss, another thug, or another thug in Hillary. There’s no differenct in her plans and bush’s. </p>
<p>She’s not the “winner” you all so want so badly. Thanks, I’d rather have the MOST qualified for the job regardless of gender or race. A person whose words match up with their actions in a consistant fashion. One who isn’t into the pubbie top-down parental speak and selling out of our citizens for benefit of busine$$. </p>
<p>Hillary clinton will insure the rethugs of an easy win (and a slew of easy sticks to beat us with on the way) or she will continue their programs….. either way its “4 more years”. </p>
<p>All should realize they are being marketed to here. Look past that. We are not desperate. We have it in the bag if only someone would stand up there and tell the truth and take action instead of trying to play the pubbies’ petty game and beat them at it. We are better than this. That person won’t be “winning”, they’ll be LEADING….. and they wouldn’t have to pander to any group because all those groupings would fall away under the weight of the truth.</p>
<p>As the Democratic leadership stands right now, it is already lost. They are framing this under republican rules… that’s not taking your power back, its getting permission from the pubs. Until they stand up and do the right thing, it is lost. Thank you Democratic party, The Nancy Congress, and most of all to the most selfish unqualified woman in history, the wife of bill clinton. gack.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanbark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rootless; I think you’re right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This one is for all the marbles, for a long time to come.   And bush and a lot of the people who inflicted him on us know it.   They are in full-on panic mode, and underneath junior’s veneer of smug arrogance, I think he knows that the shit is coming down. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;   As I’ve been saying, when bush and the warpimps pulled the trigger on Iraq, they collectively knocked up Rosemary, and now her fast-growing baby is looking like the nearly-mature “Alien”, with horns and a tail, and he is going to negatively involve SOME political party in the food chain. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    It’s a question of whether the democrats will let the collective “Dads” get out of town, and then turn around and stick THEM with the child support, or if they AND THE CANDIDATES will have the courage and the smarts to hold press conferences, early and often to insist, on behalf of the american people, on that all-important DNA check.  :o)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    Gonna be a HELL of a year.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rootless; I think you’re right.</p>
<p>This one is for all the marbles, for a long time to come.   And bush and a lot of the people who inflicted him on us know it.   They are in full-on panic mode, and underneath junior’s veneer of smug arrogance, I think he knows that the shit is coming down. </p>
<p>   As I’ve been saying, when bush and the warpimps pulled the trigger on Iraq, they collectively knocked up Rosemary, and now her fast-growing baby is looking like the nearly-mature “Alien”, with horns and a tail, and he is going to negatively involve SOME political party in the food chain. </p>
<p>    It’s a question of whether the democrats will let the collective “Dads” get out of town, and then turn around and stick THEM with the child support, or if they AND THE CANDIDATES will have the courage and the smarts to hold press conferences, early and often to insist, on behalf of the american people, on that all-important DNA check.  :o)</p>
<p>    Gonna be a HELL of a year.</p>
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		<title>By: rootless-e</title>
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		<dc:creator>rootless-e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m desperate. I think another thug victory will seal the deal for a fascist state.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m desperate. I think another thug victory will seal the deal for a fascist state.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrtle June</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/28/i-guess-we-cant-have-it-all/#comment-1063471</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrtle June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We’re not electing based on gender or senior staff…. or are we so desperate to “WIN” that we’ll settle for this? That’s not “winning” anything. Its not a football game.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We’re not electing based on gender or senior staff…. or are we so desperate to “WIN” that we’ll settle for this? That’s not “winning” anything. Its not a football game.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/28/i-guess-we-cant-have-it-all/#comment-1063454</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1062722&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ed*ard Teller @ 25&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bensonforcongress.com/&quot;&gt;Diane Benson for US Congress&lt;/a&gt; staff:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Four women, three men.  We all get paid the same.  That is, we work for free.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ed Teller! That picture of “Teamster Dianne” is really something that you should use in a guerilla-marketing campaign. It should be stuck up in every gin joint and juke hall along the Richardson Highway. Also hit the cafes and greasy-spoons. Modified of course with something like “She’s Going to Washington…and gonna raise hell!”  “Benson for Congress”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Black &amp; White prints are cheap…and you could even make a glossy version of it and sell those to make money for the campaign (maybe put a little line about where glossys can be obtained on the cheaper B&amp;W version).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1062722"><em>Ed*ard Teller @ 25</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://bensonforcongress.com/">Diane Benson for US Congress</a> staff:</p>
<p>Four women, three men.  We all get paid the same.  That is, we work for free.</p>
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<p>Ed Teller! That picture of “Teamster Dianne” is really something that you should use in a guerilla-marketing campaign. It should be stuck up in every gin joint and juke hall along the Richardson Highway. Also hit the cafes and greasy-spoons. Modified of course with something like “She’s Going to Washington…and gonna raise hell!”  “Benson for Congress”.</p>
<p>Black &amp; White prints are cheap…and you could even make a glossy version of it and sell those to make money for the campaign (maybe put a little line about where glossys can be obtained on the cheaper B&amp;W version).</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/28/i-guess-we-cant-have-it-all/#comment-1063430</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1062908&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tanbark @ 45&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have two women friends who are supporting her [Hillary]. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rabidly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They both qualify as progressives.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I asked them:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Do you think that invading Iraq was a mistake?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They both instantly and (ahem!) unequivocally, said “yes!”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Well, Hillary doesn’t think so.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They said:  “She really does, but she just can’t say it.”  ( :o) )
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How weak is a candidate that can’t say what they think?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do women really want a ‘leader’ that weak?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Would any of them vote for a man who acted the same way as Hillary?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even worse, would any of them date a man who behaved that way?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
     Let’s do one thing; change her gender, and the posts defending her on here would instantly disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
…
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I certainly hope Hillary’s supporters consider the hangover or the buyer’s remorse they’re gonna feel if they elect Hillary and she doesn’t do the things they expect. Hillary can easily say she never promised those things.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s the idea of offering an empty vessel and letting the electorate imagine what she is gonna do. That’s not a very sure way of getting what you want.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe they’re so mesmerized by having a woman president that they can’t imagine she would be a bad president or that she would lie to them. I hope they wake up and at least examine her record and statements.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1062908"><em>Tanbark @ 45</em></a></p>
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…</p>
<p>I have two women friends who are supporting her [Hillary]. </p>
<p>Rabidly.</p>
<p>They both qualify as progressives.</p>
<p>I asked them:</p>
<p>“Do you think that invading Iraq was a mistake?”</p>
<p>They both instantly and (ahem!) unequivocally, said “yes!”.</p>
<p>“Well, Hillary doesn’t think so.”</p>
<p>They said:  “She really does, but she just can’t say it.”  ( :o) )
</p>
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<p>How weak is a candidate that can’t say what they think?</p>
<p>Do women really want a ‘leader’ that weak?</p>
<p>Would any of them vote for a man who acted the same way as Hillary?</p>
<p>Even worse, would any of them date a man who behaved that way?</p>
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…<br />
     Let’s do one thing; change her gender, and the posts defending her on here would instantly disappear.<br />
…
</p>
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<p>I certainly hope Hillary’s supporters consider the hangover or the buyer’s remorse they’re gonna feel if they elect Hillary and she doesn’t do the things they expect. Hillary can easily say she never promised those things.</p>
<p>It’s the idea of offering an empty vessel and letting the electorate imagine what she is gonna do. That’s not a very sure way of getting what you want.</p>
<p>Maybe they’re so mesmerized by having a woman president that they can’t imagine she would be a bad president or that she would lie to them. I hope they wake up and at least examine her record and statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Buck</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/28/i-guess-we-cant-have-it-all/#comment-1063130</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Buck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m guessing this is how Huckabee pulls off what he often pulls off: holding hard-right positions on a number of issues, but still coming off as humane and decent, at least compared to most Republicans.  He no doubt has enough women around him to help him tone it down.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m guessing this is how Huckabee pulls off what he often pulls off: holding hard-right positions on a number of issues, but still coming off as humane and decent, at least compared to most Republicans.  He no doubt has enough women around him to help him tone it down.</p>
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		<title>By: dave maize</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/28/i-guess-we-cant-have-it-all/#comment-1063106</link>
		<dc:creator>dave maize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is disappointing to me is the continuing minimalization of Dennis Kuncinich -even here in this breakdown by a progressive blog - why no mention of him?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is disappointing to me is the continuing minimalization of Dennis Kuncinich -even here in this breakdown by a progressive blog &#8211; why no mention of him?</p>
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		<title>By: Tanbark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/28/i-guess-we-cant-have-it-all/#comment-1063014</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rootless; thanks for the thoughtful post, but I don’t think “a chunk of democratic voters” will be enough to get her into the white house.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The repubs, and the independents, and even some conservative democrats, will knee-walk to the polls to vote against her. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    Digby nailed…I mean, just NAILED it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rootless; thanks for the thoughtful post, but I don’t think “a chunk of democratic voters” will be enough to get her into the white house.</p>
<p>The repubs, and the independents, and even some conservative democrats, will knee-walk to the polls to vote against her. </p>
<p>    Digby nailed…I mean, just NAILED it.</p>
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		<title>By: rootless-e</title>
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		<dc:creator>rootless-e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m not a big Hillary fan, but her ability to run a liberal “dog whistle” is an impressive development. The Thugs have been able to try to sound moderate, for example look at the speakers at the 2004 convention, yet reassure their nuts that they will act thuggish in power. The Dems have not been able to do that - partially because they always backstab their base at the first opportunity. But Hillary has convinced a chunk of Democratic voters that she will run right and govern center. If she can do that and pull in disgusted thugs, she has a path to power. What she will do with it, I dunno.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not a big Hillary fan, but her ability to run a liberal “dog whistle” is an impressive development. The Thugs have been able to try to sound moderate, for example look at the speakers at the 2004 convention, yet reassure their nuts that they will act thuggish in power. The Dems have not been able to do that &#8211; partially because they always backstab their base at the first opportunity. But Hillary has convinced a chunk of Democratic voters that she will run right and govern center. If she can do that and pull in disgusted thugs, she has a path to power. What she will do with it, I dunno.</p>
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