Comments on: FDL Book Salon Welcomes Mark Penn and Tom Schaller http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:23:02 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1062034 cinnamonape Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:07:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1062034 <p><a href="#comment-1061278"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 107</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Well, <a href="http://www.fema.gov/about/bios/jphilbin.shtm">John Philbin</a> of FEMA has resigned.</p> <p>Via Think Progress.</p></blockquote> <p>Of course, that was over the phony press conference fiasco…but I’m sure nobody “had his back”…unlike Scooter and Karl Rove.</p> <p>“When a young Justice Department lawyer named (John) Pat Philbin crossed David Addington in a policy dispute, Addington made it his mission to block Philbin’s promotion to a top Justice job. Addington let it be known that Philbin was a “marked man,” says a colleague who spoke anonymously to avoid clashing with Addington. (Addington and Philbin declined to comment.)”</p> Loo Hoo. @ 107

Well, John Philbin of FEMA has resigned.

Via Think Progress.

Of course, that was over the phony press conference fiasco…but I’m sure nobody “had his back”…unlike Scooter and Karl Rove.

“When a young Justice Department lawyer named (John) Pat Philbin crossed David Addington in a policy dispute, Addington made it his mission to block Philbin’s promotion to a top Justice job. Addington let it be known that Philbin was a “marked man,” says a colleague who spoke anonymously to avoid clashing with Addington. (Addington and Philbin declined to comment.)”

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061866 MarkH Sun, 28 Oct 2007 04:03:21 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061866 <p><a href="#comment-1061183"><em>Mark Penn @ 23</em></a></p> <blockquote><p> …<br /> I think Hillary has been explaining her vision of a new progressivism (see NH speech), </p></blockquote> <p>Does her version of progressivism involve the anti-flag-burning bill? anti-unionism? continued free trade NAFTA, CAFTA, etc.? and other Republican ideas?</p> <blockquote><p> been outlining her plans like healthcare </p></blockquote> <p>“her” plans or her copy of John Edwards’ plan?</p> <blockquote><p> and been appealing to broad groups of working and middle class voters. This book is not really a political book — and her campaign has been a big campaign about some big goals.</p></blockquote> <p>“her campaign has been a big campaign about some big goals”?</p> <p>Really? I thought it was about saying as little as she could, so nobody could accuse her of being too far right, left or anything specific.</p> Mark Penn @ 23

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I think Hillary has been explaining her vision of a new progressivism (see NH speech),

Does her version of progressivism involve the anti-flag-burning bill? anti-unionism? continued free trade NAFTA, CAFTA, etc.? and other Republican ideas?

been outlining her plans like healthcare

“her” plans or her copy of John Edwards’ plan?

and been appealing to broad groups of working and middle class voters. This book is not really a political book — and her campaign has been a big campaign about some big goals.

“her campaign has been a big campaign about some big goals”?

Really? I thought it was about saying as little as she could, so nobody could accuse her of being too far right, left or anything specific.

]]> By: Scarabus http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061384 Scarabus Sun, 28 Oct 2007 00:40:10 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061384 <p>Sheep follow. If there’s a single bellwether, then sheep plod along comfortably. If there are multiple bellwethers, each representing a discrete “microtrend,” then sheep get confused and disoriented. BFD!</p> <p>I’m Looking for candidates who set trends, not for those who follow them. I’m looking for candidates who associate with idealists, not for candidates who associate with “consultants.”</p> Sheep follow. If there’s a single bellwether, then sheep plod along comfortably. If there are multiple bellwethers, each representing a discrete “microtrend,” then sheep get confused and disoriented. BFD!

I’m Looking for candidates who set trends, not for those who follow them. I’m looking for candidates who associate with idealists, not for candidates who associate with “consultants.”

]]> By: Flamethrower http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061360 Flamethrower Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:57:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061360 <p>Mark: are union members part of the microtrend that will sustain progressive or Democratic politics?</p> Mark: are union members part of the microtrend that will sustain progressive or Democratic politics?

]]> By: JPL http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061331 JPL Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:10:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061331 <p>Selise, Good Comment. I signed on late for the Book Salon and now I’m not sure whether or not I should stay or go.</p> Selise, Good Comment. I signed on late for the Book Salon and now I’m not sure whether or not I should stay or go.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061325 selise Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:07:50 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061325 <p><a href="#comment-1061314"><em>Jane Hamsher @ 140</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>A reminder on book salon threads — please stay on the topic of the book.</p></blockquote> <p>a suggestion -<br /> previous thread to continue any OT discussion<br /> next thread for discussion w/ ian.</p> Jane Hamsher @ 140

A reminder on book salon threads — please stay on the topic of the book.

a suggestion -
previous thread to continue any OT discussion
next thread for discussion w/ ian.

]]> By: Ann in AZ http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061323 Ann in AZ Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:04:09 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061323 <p>Sorry to intrude into the party so late, but Ian has a <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/12532/#respond">new thread</a> upstairs. You know what they say, time flies when you’re having fun!</p> Sorry to intrude into the party so late, but Ian has a new thread upstairs. You know what they say, time flies when you’re having fun!

]]> By: Marion in Savannah http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061322 Marion in Savannah Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:03:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061322 <p><a href="#comment-1061314"><em>Jane Hamsher @ 140</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>A reminder on book salon threads — please stay on the topic of the book.</p></blockquote> <p>Did we misbehave badly? I guess we thought that since he’s working for Hillary’s campaign he might be open to answering some questions that related. Sorry.</p> Jane Hamsher @ 140

A reminder on book salon threads — please stay on the topic of the book.

Did we misbehave badly? I guess we thought that since he’s working for Hillary’s campaign he might be open to answering some questions that related. Sorry.

]]> By: Eureka Springs http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061321 Eureka Springs Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:03:02 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061321 <p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/12532/">Ian is upstairs</a></p> Ian is upstairs

]]> By: LS http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061320 LS Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:02:47 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/27/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-mark-penn-and-tom-schaller/#comment-1061320 <p>Whichever candidate can Keep the Truth Simple Stupid across the board will, at this point in time, win the election. America is sick of lies and manipulation. They will follow their intuition, if they are allowed to, barring “unforeseen” circumstances.</p> Whichever candidate can Keep the Truth Simple Stupid across the board will, at this point in time, win the election. America is sick of lies and manipulation. They will follow their intuition, if they are allowed to, barring “unforeseen” circumstances.

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