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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/25/taking-it-to-the-streets/#comment-1059669</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1059572&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Barbara Martinez @ 260&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;strongly second kirk’s recomendation on the national lawyer’s guild. i volunteered with them for a week in 2003 (miami for the ftaa protests) and for a week in 2004 (nyc for the rnc).  coordination with them is key.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;also recommend nonviolence training with an organization like the afsc (american friends service committee) or for (fellowship of reconciliation). learn practical stuff about working in affinity groups, violence descalation, legal support, jail solidarity and, imo, prior exercises in role playing is critically important (even though it sounds stupid - i attribute the fact that i didn’t pee in pants when the shooting started and even kept my head in a suddenly really dangerous situation to the nonviolence training i’d just had).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;email me via the link at my name if you would like more on any of this. (i’m sure kirk would love to assist as well)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1059572"><em>Barbara Martinez @ 260</em></a> &#8211; </p>
<p>strongly second kirk’s recomendation on the national lawyer’s guild. i volunteered with them for a week in 2003 (miami for the ftaa protests) and for a week in 2004 (nyc for the rnc).  coordination with them is key.</p>
<p>also recommend nonviolence training with an organization like the afsc (american friends service committee) or for (fellowship of reconciliation). learn practical stuff about working in affinity groups, violence descalation, legal support, jail solidarity and, imo, prior exercises in role playing is critically important (even though it sounds stupid &#8211; i attribute the fact that i didn’t pee in pants when the shooting started and even kept my head in a suddenly really dangerous situation to the nonviolence training i’d just had).</p>
<p>email me via the link at my name if you would like more on any of this. (i’m sure kirk would love to assist as well)</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Martinez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Martinez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1057888&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;kirk murphy @ 80&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1057822&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;neurophius @ 23&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;People contemplating such action should be advised beforehand regarding law enforcement and civil liberties issues. What do we do if the police (with or without lawful authorization) order us to disperse? Some people may wish to be arrested but many others undoubtedly will not.  “Don’t taze me, bro!” does not appear to offer adequate protection.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is why the Goddess created:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nlg.org/&quot;&gt;National Lawyers Guild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Carl Messineo and Mara Verheyden-Hilliard and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.justiceonline.org/site/PageServer&quot;&gt;Partnership for Civil Justice&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.akpress.org/2002/items/beattheheat&quot;&gt;Katya Komisaruk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If we protest it (lawfully) the NLG or someone they know will most likely coome - if we call them in advance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is a whole nation worth of infrastucture for mass protests - medical care, food, legal services, logistics, media - some of the smartest and most capable people I know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Most of them (us) are voluntarily under-employed so as to be available…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And have been so since Seattle in ‘99 - or before.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’ve got too much time on our hands.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And we’ve been waiting for you - all of you -  to keep us busy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Come out onto the streets - we’ll be there for you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your local indymedia site will help you get the word out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Come out and play - it’s fun, and we have your backs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Together, we can take back our Republic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And most of the time, we’ll have fun doing it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please join us.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;May I add these links to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sitdownfortheconstitution.org?&quot;&gt;www.sitdownfortheconstitution.org?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1057888"><em>kirk murphy @ 80</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1057822"><em>neurophius @ 23</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>People contemplating such action should be advised beforehand regarding law enforcement and civil liberties issues. What do we do if the police (with or without lawful authorization) order us to disperse? Some people may wish to be arrested but many others undoubtedly will not.  “Don’t taze me, bro!” does not appear to offer adequate protection.</p>
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<p>This is why the Goddess created:</p>
<p>the <a href="http://www.nlg.org/">National Lawyers Guild</a></p>
<p>Carl Messineo and Mara Verheyden-Hilliard and the <a href="http://www.justiceonline.org/site/PageServer">Partnership for Civil Justice</a></p>
<p>and <a href="http://www.akpress.org/2002/items/beattheheat">Katya Komisaruk</a></p>
<p>If we protest it (lawfully) the NLG or someone they know will most likely coome &#8211; if we call them in advance.</p>
<p>There is a whole nation worth of infrastucture for mass protests &#8211; medical care, food, legal services, logistics, media &#8211; some of the smartest and most capable people I know.</p>
<p>Most of them (us) are voluntarily under-employed so as to be available…</p>
<p>And have been so since Seattle in ‘99 &#8211; or before.</p>
<p>We’ve got too much time on our hands.</p>
<p>And we’ve been waiting for you &#8211; all of you &#8211;  to keep us busy.</p>
<p>Come out onto the streets &#8211; we’ll be there for you.</p>
<p>Your local indymedia site will help you get the word out.</p>
<p>Come out and play &#8211; it’s fun, and we have your backs.</p>
<p>Together, we can take back our Republic.</p>
<p>And most of the time, we’ll have fun doing it.</p>
<p>Please join us.</p>
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<p>May I add these links to <a href="http://www.sitdownfortheconstitution.org?">http://www.sitdownfortheconstitution.org?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zetetic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zetetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is something which has been on my mind for quite sometime now. I watched the movie Malcolm X not too long ago and observed something very interesting. The protesters were dressed in suits and ties and marched in single file lines. They were HIGHLY organized and looked like dignified American Citizens. It got me thinking about the protests I have seen recently here in the United States which truly are an utter mess. I’m not surprised the media labels them anarchist because this is what they look like. A bunch of punk hoodlums. Especially when people are too afraid to show their faces so they tie a bandanna to cover themselves. When people see a covered face others see it as “oh look they are doing something they are not supposed to be doing”. Please, do not cover your face. Be proud of who you are and stand up for this country. If enough of us do it orderly and patriotically we can make a difference and we can influence others to do so. As long as we are afraid people will know and they will be afraid too. Its time to take your masks off, put on your suit and march in a single file in a highly organized fashion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FYI: Just got you book in the mail today. Can’t wait to read it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something which has been on my mind for quite sometime now. I watched the movie Malcolm X not too long ago and observed something very interesting. The protesters were dressed in suits and ties and marched in single file lines. They were HIGHLY organized and looked like dignified American Citizens. It got me thinking about the protests I have seen recently here in the United States which truly are an utter mess. I’m not surprised the media labels them anarchist because this is what they look like. A bunch of punk hoodlums. Especially when people are too afraid to show their faces so they tie a bandanna to cover themselves. When people see a covered face others see it as “oh look they are doing something they are not supposed to be doing”. Please, do not cover your face. Be proud of who you are and stand up for this country. If enough of us do it orderly and patriotically we can make a difference and we can influence others to do so. As long as we are afraid people will know and they will be afraid too. Its time to take your masks off, put on your suit and march in a single file in a highly organized fashion.</p>
<p>FYI: Just got you book in the mail today. Can’t wait to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Publicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;One of the greatest ideas I have ever heard!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: ed  kriner</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed  kriner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Finally we are beginning to get the idea I (along with a few others) have been calling for awhile now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think it is a good idea to “run-up” until 10/10/08 and then we all come out and play until we stop this illegal/immoral Congress and Administration.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally we are beginning to get the idea I (along with a few others) have been calling for awhile now.</p>
<p>I think it is a good idea to “run-up” until 10/10/08 and then we all come out and play until we stop this illegal/immoral Congress and Administration.</p>
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		<title>By: kittykitty</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/25/taking-it-to-the-streets/#comment-1059232</link>
		<dc:creator>kittykitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1058141&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TexBetsy @ 214&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1058134&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;kate @ 207&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Where is Fenwick Park? I’ve lived here in Chicago my entire life and I’ve never heard of it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Boston.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it’s FENWAY park, jeez&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1058141"><em>TexBetsy @ 214</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1058134"><em>kate @ 207</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Where is Fenwick Park? I’ve lived here in Chicago my entire life and I’ve never heard of it.</p>
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<p>Boston.</p>
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<p>it’s FENWAY park, jeez</p>
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		<title>By: kittykitty</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/25/taking-it-to-the-streets/#comment-1059227</link>
		<dc:creator>kittykitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1057871&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Suzanne @ 64&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The idea is not to recreate Chicago ‘68 but MLK at the Lincoln Memorial.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve beeen saying this for weeks to not much response. Glad everyone’s behind it now.  It reaaly is urgent. out last chance.  well, i’m off to boston, folks. gonna carry a huge american flag and wear my pearls cause my momma gave em to me. my sig other who has never spoken a political word in his life is going with me, so’s my daughter. We’re all pissed, and so proud to carry the idea forward. It’s a privilege to be this free for as long as it lasts. wish us luck. i know there are an awful lot of folks from maine goin down to beantown. with love&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1057871"><em>Suzanne @ 64</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The idea is not to recreate Chicago ‘68 but MLK at the Lincoln Memorial.</p>
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<p>I’ve beeen saying this for weeks to not much response. Glad everyone’s behind it now.  It reaaly is urgent. out last chance.  well, i’m off to boston, folks. gonna carry a huge american flag and wear my pearls cause my momma gave em to me. my sig other who has never spoken a political word in his life is going with me, so’s my daughter. We’re all pissed, and so proud to carry the idea forward. It’s a privilege to be this free for as long as it lasts. wish us luck. i know there are an awful lot of folks from maine goin down to beantown. with love</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1058948&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ray Duray @ 250&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Friends, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have been advised by a fellow organizer/activist to pick up a copy of “Doing Democracy”, a guide to community organizing. Don’t be confused as I was. The Bill Moyer who is the principal author here is not the same person as the wonderful Bill Moyers on PBS. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some Links: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My activist buddy: &lt;a href=&quot;http://thewhiterose.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/forbidden-topics/&quot;&gt;http://thewhiterose.wordpress......en-topics/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Doing Democracy”: &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/2oraqg&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/2oraqg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My question is whether anyone here in the community has read this book? If so if you could speak to its applicability and usefulness to those of us who aspire to take up Naomi Wolf’s challenge to continue our determined opposition to the criminals in the White House at a new level, a more French version of protest including the venerable national strike. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i read it (twice!) after it was recommended to me by someone at a afsc meeting in RI. even organized a sorta “book club” discussion on it and have given away copies to encourage others to read it. i should reread it - it’s been a few years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;also recommend to you gene sharp’s “politics of nonviolence” and “waging nonviolent struggle: 20th century practice and 21st century potential”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1058948"><em>Ray Duray @ 250</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Friends, </p>
<p>I have been advised by a fellow organizer/activist to pick up a copy of “Doing Democracy”, a guide to community organizing. Don’t be confused as I was. The Bill Moyer who is the principal author here is not the same person as the wonderful Bill Moyers on PBS. </p>
<p>Some Links: </p>
<p>My activist buddy: <a href="http://thewhiterose.wordpress.com/2007/10/21/forbidden-topics/">http://thewhiterose.wordpress&#8230;&#8230;en-topics/</a></p>
<p>“Doing Democracy”: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2oraqg">http://tinyurl.com/2oraqg</a></p>
<p>My question is whether anyone here in the community has read this book? If so if you could speak to its applicability and usefulness to those of us who aspire to take up Naomi Wolf’s challenge to continue our determined opposition to the criminals in the White House at a new level, a more French version of protest including the venerable national strike. </p>
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<p>i read it (twice!) after it was recommended to me by someone at a afsc meeting in RI. even organized a sorta “book club” discussion on it and have given away copies to encourage others to read it. i should reread it &#8211; it’s been a few years.</p>
<p>also recommend to you gene sharp’s “politics of nonviolence” and “waging nonviolent struggle: 20th century practice and 21st century potential”</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1058860&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;JulieWaters @ 249&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1058596&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;selise @ 245&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you gotta lets us know when you do this… so we can give you the recommends your post deserves.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Didn’t I just do that? :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;let me be more specific… a comment in the current active thread would be gratefully appreciated. *g*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;seriously excellent diary. thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1058860"><em>JulieWaters @ 249</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1058596"><em>selise @ 245</em></a></p>
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<p>you gotta lets us know when you do this… so we can give you the recommends your post deserves.</p>
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<p>Didn’t I just do that? :)</p>
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<p>let me be more specific… a comment in the current active thread would be gratefully appreciated. *g*</p>
<p>seriously excellent diary. thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Holland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1057858&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;neurophius @ 52&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Don’t forget the American Flag lapel pins!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wear them upside-down, in the universal sign of a nation in distress.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1057858"><em>neurophius @ 52</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Don’t forget the American Flag lapel pins!</p>
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<p>Wear them upside-down, in the universal sign of a nation in distress.</p>
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