Again, Firedoglake needs to take a good hard look at “consulting” companies like The Glover Park Group. They are lobbyists and image makers for the likes of Verizon and AT&T, and they are part of Hillary’s top campaign staff (WOLFSON). Without looking at these apparent connections and built in contradictions all those who believe in progressive government are being manipulated and blinded by “the message” these Washington admen/lobbyists are shaping and feeding the flock of sheep better known as Americans – Republican and Democrat alike.

Nice.

mui @ 184

You may actually be smarter than the average fed. Think about it. I think Wilson is a smart man, but there were some gaping holes in his book that I wondered about, LIKE he does not address GeorgeI lack of response to the embassy’s intelligence. Seems like GeorgieI just kinda left the American embassy to their own resources without any input whatsoever. That is the impression I got from his book.

This criticism of Wilson is similar to the criticism of Edwards (for his performance in the debate with Darth). These are people who are intelligent and are used to playing by the rules with other intelligent people who also have some morality and character. They just didn’t expect to be stabbed in the back and lied to. They weren’t used to trying to work with Bushies.

So, don’t criticize either of them so much. Hey, there’s a lot of other Americans who have learned the hard way about Bush via the Iraq war and all these national disasters (NOLA Katrina, Milwaukee bridge, SD fires, etc.).

Live and learn….and fight back.

You’re right. I should be more balanced in my criticism. But that’s the devil’s advocate in me gone wild.

this is what I am hoping is the water shed moment that has hilary loose her support, has the other candidates take the lead, and opens the door for gore to step in

I think the only chance the republicans have is if hilary is our candidate, she is already corporate bought and she is no longer going to champion middle class rights above corporate rights

Are you kidding? Rupert Murdock isn’t throwing her fund raisers for nothing. Do you think Willie passed media consolidation for free? DLC Dems, stupid women, and corporate Republicans are supporting Hillary, just like they did/do Lieberman. She is actively courting moderate Republicans and their females and doing a heck of a job Brownie! Hillary has been “picked” by the corporate crowd and their fully owned subsidiary, Congress. We don’t have free and democratic elections and anybody who thinks we do is a fool. The fix is in, and Hillary is your next CEO whether anyone votes for her or not.

But if as Hillary Clinton says she accepts lobbyist money and yet it doesn’t influence her vote, wouldn’t now be a nice time to prove that’s true?

She’ll say anything to get the nomination. Americans cannot trust Hillary Clinton.

Please understand. I am not a blanket liberal. On matters of foreign adventures, deficit spending and violent crime to name three, I am a conservative. And I am a radical conservationist when it comes to the health of our planet.

Hoss, those are VERY progressive issues, and stances. And dear to THIS Larue’s heart.

Liberal, and progressive, as I see them.

Opposed by conservatives, and radical right wingers.

Ok, even the CENTRISTS are radical right and opposed to most of the proressive issues you and I support . . .

N that’s why I prefer liberal and progressive, to describe myself.

For the masses, for the planet. And peace where possible, if not, we gotta fight for it like NorskeFlameThrower keeps sayin . . .

PeterK @ 79

Here is the link: http://www.nytimes.com/slidesh…..index.html

Thanks Peter! Chilling stuff.

The one woman who rapidly approached Condi with bloodied hands is lucky the Secret Service didn’t pump a few clips into her in automoatic mode.

This was an ABYSMAL attempt of protest, and completely out of place.

The place is in the streets . . . what Code Pink did today is different somehow, from what they’ve done in the past in various chambers.

It just seems all wrong. And pretty kabuki and stupid.

They could spend time organizing folks for STREET protests.

And demand WE all show up.

And do us all better. IMHO.

Hat’s off to Code Pink though, early on they were there when no one else was . . .

Oklahoma kiddo @ 181

Since I have never worked in the Federal government, much less the CIA, perhaps I just flat don’t know what I’m talking about when it comes to the Wilson’s.

You may actually be smarter than the average fed. Think about it. I think Wilson is a smart man, but there were some gaping holes in his book that I wondered about, LIKE he does not address GeorgeI lack of response to the embassy’s intelligence. Seems like GeorgieI just kinda left the American embassy to their own resources without any input whatsoever. That is the impression I got from his book.

This criticism of Wilson is similar to the criticism of Edwards (for his performance in the debate with Darth). These are people who are intelligent and are used to playing by the rules with other intelligent people who also have some morality and character. They just didn’t expect to be stabbed in the back and lied to. They weren’t used to trying to work with Bushies.

So, don’t criticize either of them so much. Hey, there’s a lot of other Americans who have learned the hard way about Bush via the Iraq war and all these national disasters (NOLA Katrina, Milwaukee bridge, SD fires, etc.).

Live and learn….and fight back.

Balrog @ 121

I’m very concerned with Barbara.

I personally like that a few of the Reps from CA have come out and blasted DiFi over the Southwick vote. Sounds like some of them might be willing to support a primary challenge to DiFi in 2012 if she doesn’t retire.

Hey, ya can’t be a rabble-rouser without some rabble.

Are any of the CA reps, aside from Lee, noteworthy candidates for that Senate seat?

mui @ 100

Really. She’s a conservative. She said Iran has “malevolant” intentions. And that giving faulty nuke blueprints to Iran was a good idea. I’m skeptical. sympathetic. But skeptical.

She thinks that spooks can really do something, know something, whereas the record is pretty definitively to the contrary. So I would eliminate her as a leader on the basis of her extreme naivite.

I doubt she’s naive about Iran and non-proliferation. But, she might be one of those geeky types who are so focused on their specialty that they miss other things.

I suspect Iran is a diverse country in many ways and there are some elements who wish to blow Israel off the planet and those are the people VPW was focused on.

That doesn’t mean the country is either the devil or neutral or an angel. We have our share of all those traits too.

I like the Wilson’s for their service, their commitment and their intelligence and grace under fire. It doesn’t mean I wouldn’t scrutinize them thoroughly in a political situation. Trust, but tie your camel.