(photo by Bubba Hotep)
Fire is a natural part of California’s ecosystems. For nearly five centuries – since the first European “discoverers” encountered the Native residents of California -self-serving lies by the most powerful have been a perennial feature of California’s political ecology.
Power’s servants found elegant – even divine – excuses for the enslavement and extermination of the state’s First Peoples.
In The Age of “Discovery”, Europeans sailed off killing and looting because it was what God them to do. How could they know? Well, God’s representative to the (Catholic) world – the guy who just happened to get a big hunk of the treasure – the Pope said all this killing and looting was part of saving souls. The Pope’s servants in California were so concerned about souls they built a whole chain of missions slave labor camps spaced a day’s ride apart – just so none of the Indians’ heathen souls would be too far from salvation – or the service of the Spanish Crown.
For Drake, he knew his work was Divine ’cause Her Majesty the Queen – the gal who got the big hunk of Drake’s looted treasure – said all this killing and looting was part of her Divine Right of Queens.
Up the Coast at Fort Ross, the Russians who forced the Pomo Indians into enslavement (by murdering the men and taking the women and children and women for rape and work camps) killed and stole for the sacred glory of the Tsar.
After word of the gold strike at Sutter’s mill spread in 1848, goldseekers from all over America (and the rest of the planet) flooded California – bringing diseases for which Native California had no immunity. In seeking their sacred metal, the 49′ers poured across California – bringing infectious diseases unknown to the First Peoples – or their immune systems.
In our sacred duty to civilize Native Californians – part of that whole Manifest Destiny gig – US Army troops pitched in, vigorously assisting the locals in killing and subjugating the pesky Natives resisting forced labor, rape, and slavery.
In May of 1850, a detachment of Army regulars led by Capt. Nathaniel Lyon entered the Clear Lake area to punish the Indians….. Unable to find the band of slaves who had fled, they attacked a small Pomo village, Badonnapoti, on an island on the north side of the lake — later called Bloody Island by the Pomo.
[snip]
Men, women, and children, unable to flee, were massacred by the U.S. Army there. On their way home, the troops continued their bloody actions, massacring every Indian group they encountered — mostly Pomo groups. …
The Northern Californian which covered it differently, told of “Indiscriminate massacre of innocent Indians — Women and children butchered” covering the details of the brutal Bloody Island slaughter with hatchets and axes of 188 peaceful men, women and children in their villages. The youthful editor, western short-story writer Bret Harte, then had to flee ahead of a lynch mob, which smashed his printing press for daring to tell the truth about it.
[snip]
The massacre and round-ups of the Pomo took place …. just 1 year after the U.S. took control of California, after its victory in the Mexican war.
When it comes to fine words and lofty ideologies to justify heinous deeds, the rest of the world ain’t got nothin’ on California.
Jonestown; massacre of the Pomos at Bloody Island; the Manson cult’s murders; UFO suicide cults….
If some whacko somewhere on our unhappy planet can invent a religious excuse for mayhem and murder, true believers somewhere in the Golden State will rush to the next cult – and start the killing.
Or re-start the killing, to be more precise.
Which brings us to the modern-day cultist Frank Knight.
Frank Knight is a truly fortunate cultist – his cult belief makes a few people whole pile of money.
And those few people love them their Frank Knight.
And those few people sacrifice us – using his cult as the excuse for a merciless ideology of greed and mass killing through neglect and violence.
In her comprehensive work The Shock Doctrine, Naomi Klein observes:
Knight, one of the founders of of Chicago School economics, thought professors should “inculcate” in their students the belief that economic theory is a “sacred feature of the system”, not a debatable hypothesis.
Ahh – a religious theory cloaked as an economic belief.
What a perfect closed system – impermeable to rational assessment or disproof.
But what does the God of the Market have to do with the SoCal infernos?
I mean – everyone knows SoCal has Santa Anas and wildfire, right?
Yep – they do.
In fact, wildfires are such a certainty the former San Diego Fire Chief quit two years ago – he couldn’t get the funds he needed to protect the city through CA’s political processes
April 5, 2006
San Diego Fire Chief Jeff Bowman said there wasn’t enough time or money to fix the city’s broken fire system.
In announcing his resignation yesterday, Bowman said he was tired, frustrated, worried about his health and ready to leave.
He said he would step down June 30.
[snip]
Ron Saathoff, president of the San Diego City Fire Fighters Union, said in a statement: “Firefighters, and all of San Diego, are better served because of Chief Bowman’s efforts.”
He pointed the finger at City Hall and said no one had the courage to raise taxes.
Bowman, whose firefighters ran out of batteries for portable radios while battling the flames, took a similar tone five months ago when a reporter asked about the wildfire season.
“This is the most understaffed fire agency I’ve ever seen,” he said of a department with 875 firefighters and 45 stations.
He said the city should have 20 more fire stations, which would cost $100 million to build and equip. It would take an additional $40 million a year to operate them.
“So when you start adding all that up, that begins to explain why it’s not being done today,” he said.
Gee – just four years ago in San Diego, the Cedar fire (and firestorm) killed 22 people and caused huge economic losses. Why wouldn’t the stridently pro-business types who infest San Diego politics (and the City and County governments) spend the money to keep business going strong? Because the Club For Greed Growth will spank them – hard:
Club for Growth President Stephen Moore, head of a 6,000-member group that is frequently at odds with Republican strategists who favor pragmatism over ideology.
“If there is any single role that Club for Growth plays, it is to hold Republicans accountable for votes that betray the Republican agenda,” said Moore, who hopes to discover and nurture the next generation of Ronald Reagans. “We think we play an important role in disciplining the party.”
Frequently that means challenging a Republican incumbent or candidate who is backed by the party’s establishment but does not support the club’s vision of tax and budget cuts, Social Security privatization and free trade.
The club targets primary races, where the dollars go farther and the group’s conservative ideology is more in tune with hard-core Republican voters, Moore said.
“We have a lot of members who are more driven by ideology than party,” Moore said during an interview in his office, rented from a Washington law firm. “We think we are starting to change the culture of the party.”
The club spent more than $2 million in 2000 in 17 races, winning 10 of them. This year it has backed about a dozen candidates in primaries and will support a total of about 20.
[snip]
With a membership list dominated by Wall Street financiers and executives, Club for Growth expects to become even more influential under new campaign finance regulations that limit soft-money donations to parties.
It models itself after Emily’s List, the liberal group that raises money mostly for Democratic candidates favoring abortion rights, by “bundling” donations to its hand-picked candidates. It asks members to write checks to the candidate but send them to club headquarters in Washington, which then passes them on.
That allows the club to be responsible for far more in donations than it otherwise would be allowed, boosting its clout and, Moore hopes, spreading its influence.
“We’re trying to let candidates know that if they ever voted for a tax increase, we’ll never support them and in fact we’ll work to defeat them,” he said. “We’re trying to get the word out to even the lowest grass-roots level that if you’re a Republican you aren’t allowed to vote for taxes.”
But what does the Club For Greed Growth have to do with jolly ‘ol Grover Norquist and his bathtub?
The Club for Growth (which shares an office with Americans for Limited Government) is an offshoot of the Cato Institute (which was founded by the Kochs, who also created Citizens for a Sound Economy, predecessor of Freedomworks), and was originally headed up by Stephen Moore, former Director of Fiscal Policy at Cato. The Club for Growth has a history of funneling contributions to candidates hand-picked by Tom DeLay. Paul Jacob of US Term Limits (which also shares an office with Washington initiative backer Americans for Limited Government and has been involved in Oregon term limits efforts), Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform , and Pat Toomey (and predecessors) of the Club for Growth are very clearly connected, both personally and philosophically.
The Club for Growth Founders Committee includes Brent Bozell, an in-law to William F. Buckley, of National Review, where former Club For Growth President Stephen Moore is a contributing editor (Moore also was chief economist and assistant to Dick Armey when Armey chaired Congress’s Joint Economic Committee, and Dick Armey is Co-Chair of Freedomworks, formerly Citizens for a Sound Economy and backer of Oregon initiatives). Norquist’s ATR offices were the weekly meeting place for Tom DeLay’s K Street Project. Obviously, these groups are really the same characters operating through several interconnected entities.
[snip]
….at the Club for Growth, for example (the group that shares the same address as Americans for Limited Government): One board member, Lawrence Kudlow, came from the Bear Stearns investment bank, known for money laundering. (Incidentally, Kudlow also is the economics editor for National Review Online.)
But what does Grover have to do with California and the CA Rethugs?
Norquist–president of Americans for Tax Reform and arguably Washington’s leading right-wing strategist–is rushing from meetings on Capitol Hill to strategy sessions with antitax activists. One minute he’s putting the finishing touches on planned demonstrations in Washington and all fifty state capitals on tax-return filing day; the next he is juggling appearances on right-wing talk-radio shows and stints on MSNBC and Fox. And, as he has for nearly eight years, Norquist is coordinating the agenda for his signature event, the regular “Wednesday meeting” that draws more than a hundred representatives of conservative groups to a standing-room-only conference room at his organization’s L Street offices.
[snip]
A Harvard-educated intellectual and self-conscious student of the left, over the past decade Norquist has eclipsed such older stalwarts as Ed Feulner of the Heritage Foundation, David Keene of the American Conservative Union and Paul Weyrich of the Free Congress Foundation to emerge as the managing director of the hard-core right in Washington. But while firmly planted on the extreme end of the political spectrum, Norquist has also built a solid working alliance with the Fortune 500 corporate elite and its K Street lobbyists. “What he’s managed to do is to chain the ideological conservatives together with the business guys, who have money, and to put that money to work in the service of the conservative movement,” says Roger Hickey of the Campaign for America’s Future, who’s repeatedly clashed with Norquist. [snip]
Graduating just in time to sign up with the burgeoning tax-revolt movement in the late 1970s, Norquist did a stint with the National Taxpayers Union and then returned to Harvard for graduate school. Trekking back to Washington after Ronald Reagan was elected, Norquist took over as executive director of the College Republicans, a post that brought him into contact with the rising stars of a new generation of right-wing activists, many of whom are his allies today. After a couple of interim stops, in 1986 Norquist was tapped by President Reagan’s White House to run an ad hoc group called Americans for Tax Reform, an in-house operation to build support for the 1986 tax bill. Soon afterward, Norquist took ATR private, and he has run it ever since.
[snip]
Norquist used to do some work as a lobbyist–at one point he was on a $10,000-a-month retainer for Microsoft and at another he lobbied on behalf of the Seychelles, an island republic in the Indian Ocean–but those ventures brought him bad publicity and he no longer takes private clients. Instead, he draws a retainer as a consultant and strategist for a lobbying firm he helped to found, Janus-Merritt Strategies, which represents Seagram, BP, Universal Studios and a wide range of Mexican industrial groups.
[snip]
Norquist has also organized seventeen conservative groups under the umbrella of the American Conservative Union to support Bush’s plan, even though most of them, including ATR and ACU, would prefer even more sweeping tax cuts.
[snip]
Norquist serves on the ten-person executive council of the Tax Relief Coalition, set up by the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors, the National Association of Manufacturers, the National Federation of Independent Businesses and the US Chamber of Commerce. More than 700 corporations and trade associations have joined the Tax Relief Coalition, with eighty paying $5,000 each to be part of its steering committee. The group divvies up responsibility for lobbying individual members of the House and Senate as individual pieces of the package move forward.
Gee. Grover cut his teeth with the National Taxpayers Union on his way to be ED for the College Rethugs…and then was hand-picked by the Reaganites for further mayhem.
Now what does the NTU have do with CA politics and buying fire trucks and aircraft?
[snip]
Pro-tax cut Activities:
NTU’s main focus is lobbying Congress. NTU bills its congressional scorecards as “the only
scorecard that grades Senators and Representatives on every roll call vote affecting fiscal policy,
including taxes and regulation.”Upper Brackets: The Right’s Tax Cut Boosters
Right-wing foundations that help fund NTUF include: Scaife, John M. Olin and JM Foundations.
Quotes about NTU:
“My Administration came to Washington to achieve many of the goals shared by the National
Taxpayers Union – Reduction of income taxes rates, control of government spending…NTU’s
support for the across-the-board tax rate reduction and income tax indexing helped pave the way
for Congressional adoption during the first years of this Administration.”
Former President Ronald Reagan“The National Taxpayers Union…is the Grand-daddy of the tax revolt organizations.”
San Francisco Chronicle“After Howard Jarvis’ victory on California’s landmark Proposition 13 tax-limitation referendum
in 1978, the NTU helped to convert the victory into national momentum for the Reagan agenda.”
Human Events
Now who cares about Prop 13 and Howard Jarvis, anyway?
“It is an absolute truth — had we had more air resources we would have been able to control this fire” Orange County Fire Authority Chief Chip Prather said.
[snip]
Local firefighters — who saw support from the state and other outside agencies Tuesday for the first time, including four air tankers, two helicopters and more than 100 firefighters — were told not to expect many more resources in the near future.
“We put in a request for a lot of outside resources that just plain are not available,” Capt. Stephen Miller said. “As you’re seeing what’s going on in Southern California, everybody’s stretched pretty thin.”
Even firefighters on the scene were occasionally pulled back because of the blaze’s unpredictable behavior.
Early Tuesday, firefighters from Station 16, a tight-knit volunteer station in Modjeska, stopped at the mouth of the canyon with tears in their eyes, helpless as their and their neighbors’ homes were threatened by flames.
Well, OC Fire Authority Chief Prather, for one.
For another, SD Fire Chief Bowman – the fellow who retired last year ’cause SD pols wouldn’t push for taxes.
You see, Prop 13 and the no-tax cult are the Holy Relics of CA Rethuglican politics.
Prop 13 not only holds megacorps’ property taxes at absurdly low levels, but also requires a 2/3 super majority to pass local special spending districts – like fire districts.
Thanks, Howard Jarvis, Grover, and Club for Greed Growth.
After all, Southern Californians – all 22 million of ‘em – are far less important than your free-market cult.
Ahhulnd sure thinks so – he falls right into line with Grover and the Club for Greed Growth:
What Ahhnuld failed to mention is that he vetoed four bills that would have increased staffing and fire resources after the Cedar Fire, at a cost of tens of millions of dollars. A fifth bill, signed by Schwarzenegger, requires local governments to first submit safety plans to the California Department of Forestry and will not take effect until 2010, the Los Angeles Times reported in a May 20, 2007 article titled “Fire danger acute as 2003 lessons fade.” …..
The same story cited Dallas Jones, former director of the Governor’s Office of Emergency Services and current official with California Professional Firefighters union. Jones damned Schwarzenegger for failing to provide additional firetrucks. “How many years are we since the ’03 fire siege?” he asked, “and so far, nothing.”
Other unfulfilled recommendations made to Schwarzenegger by his Blue Ribbon Fire Commission include replacement of aging fire helicopters, increasing staffing to assure four person crews on each state fire engine sent to major wildfires, and nighttime air drops.
A national contract fleet of heavy air tankers has fallen from 41 to 16 in the last five years, with aging aircraft deemed unsafe and grounded. The state firefighting fleet has not replaced two air tankers that crashed, the L.A. Times reported.
CNN reports that only 1,500 National Guard have been sent to assist Californians during the current wildfire crisis—less than 1/10 of the state’s 20,000 National Guard members. Clearly having the bulk of our National Guards forces deployed to war zones in Iraq and Afghanistan have hindered emergency response here at home.
Some improvements have been made since the Cedar Fire, including coordination with the military to help combat fires, but even those are inadequate. Four Marine helicopters at the Miramar Marine Corps Air Station are equipped with buckets to fight San Diego’s fires—but remain grounded because Cal Fire officials insist the choppers can’t fly without state fire crew spotters on board – and there are none available. Not even Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-Alpine), former chair of the House Armed Service Committee has yet been able to resolve this bureaucratic SNAFU.
So even when outside aircraft may be available, Cal Fire doesn’t have enough money to get spotters on all the planes.
Thanks, Ahhnuld.
Nice you can find time to listen to the Club For Greed Growth.
Too bad you couldn’t bother to listen to your own Blue Ribbon Fire Commission.
But the Commission’s merely concerned about our survival.
By vetoing firefighting funds and pleasing the the Club For Greed Growth and the anti-tax cult, Ahhnuld’s working for his survival – as a pol.
Just as SD pols on the city and County level, CA pols on the State level, and pols on the Federal level have learned to do.
You see, for the Chicago School, their enforcers in the Club for Greed Growth, and the uber-wealthy families still bitter about the New Deal, our lives are just a game.
They seek plenty – and beyond – for their families.
That’s why Ahhnuld lives in Brentwood, not Compton.
For the rest of us, the cult of the free-market means no spare capacity – ever. In the cult’s world, any unused capacity in the public sector is evil.
If you’ve been to an ER, you’ve seen the consequences of no surge capacity and forty years of deliberate disinvestiment under the free-market cult.
If you live in Southern California, you’re smelling the consequences of no surge capacity and forty years of deliberate disinvestment. The wealthiest state in the nation can easily afford enough Cal Fire staff to put on every outside plane available in time of crisis. The wealthiest state in the nation can afford to purchase and maintain a far larger fleet of firefighting aircraft -and enough firefighters and equipment and supplies and stations so that every fire season is not a desperate effort to spread too few brave men and women over too many fires.
And California is still wealthy enough to reclaim her rightful place as leading the nation is school funding and academic performance – as well as transportation and infrastructure.
But so long as Grover Norquist and the Club For Greed Growth threaten craven pols like Ahhnuld to put their next election ahead of our own welfare, it won’t happen.
And so long as any greedy billionaire can buy enough airtime to fool one-third of our poorly educated voters into acting against our own welfare, we’ll have an uphill fight.
Yet – as expensive as the free-market cult tells us taxes may be -
the price of doing nothing will remain catastrophe and conflagration.
Which – if you’re Grover, the Club for Greed Growth, or Arnold – is all in a day’s work.
Related posts:
- Mopping Up Corporate Greed
- FDL Book Salon Welcomes Jonathan Tasini, “The Audacity of Greed: Free Markets, Corporate Thieves and the Looting of America”
- The Continuing Adventures of Jesus II and his fan club
- Health Reform Supporter Arnold Schwarzenegger Vetoes Multiple Health Reform Bills
- Free Speech in Rhode Island? Gotta Register





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kirk!
Hi Kirk
Kirk! Now to go read so see ya in a bit!
Kirk!
Kirk break this up do a series of posts this is a lot to read. Information like this deserves careful scrutiny many people here are a bit rushed. I’ll be back when I finish reading.
Gotta go read. Hiya Kirk!
WOW! KIRK!!
May I be impolite enuf to ask why people live in areas where it’s highly likely that their house will burn down in a wild fire? I’ve been to such houses in CA, and I think the owners are nuts, in a word.
Hi pups – big props to RGB for helping me get this up
(my wordpress learning curve is um – in progress)
Wow. That’s one hell of a post. Bravo.
eCAHNomics @ 8
Some of them may not be able to afford La Jolla. Or Brentwood.
allan_in_upstate @ 10
No kiddin!
The real question here, in my opinion, is whether catastrophes like this can change the public’s opinion about the need to fund government services. Second part of that is how we can help that learning process along.
allan_in_upstate @ 11
Gee, the houses I’ve seen up in the CA hills are anything but poverty stricken dwellings. They’re mostly pretty pricey. My impression is that the poor live much closer to the city, except for a few low-income towns.
Well, have I got a picture for you, Kirk.
;>)
Great post. Kudos.
Hopefully folks here in CA will WAKE THE FUCK UP AS TO JUST WHO AHNULD REALLY IS.
Whew….Got a little excited there…puff….pant….
Yep, them ‘conservatives’ are real good at ‘conserving’ tax money for themselves while letting those who actually pay taxes to….
Burn in hell.
Dr. Kirk…….. WOW what a post.
What a searing indictment of the selfishness of these people and how much disdain they have for the people and the environment.
Doesn’t surprise me though. This kind of self absorbed greed is so a part of the American psyche now. I am in disbelief when there is NOT some selfish greedy republican behind any disaster or how it was handled.
Name one.
TexBetsy @ 13
Agreed. I’ll never understand why funding certain services, especially public safety services, doesn’t seem to be a priority with some localities.
Waxman!!!! Call in Norquist proto!!
Call in Addington and Fielding too!!
TexBetsy @ 13
humble suggestion:
picture posters of the ashes,the bridges,the equipment etc.
captioned with the words
THE COST OF LOW EXPECTATIONS.
I heard people on the teevee…spouting out that the Constitution should be changed to allow Ahnold to run for Prezdinent today..both Dems and Repukes…
I remember a few years ago, reading that Redrum Rover was working with Ahnold….
Goddess, please….say NO!
LoudounLib @ 18
Kirk @22 — but…but…it’s for fire and rescue services! What if they dialed 911 and nobody responded?
I know, preaching to the choir ;-)
oops:
meant to write:
One of Prop 13’s greatest evils is chaining local approval of property tax increases for any purpose to a 2/3 super majority.
Whatever the need may be, the Wurlitzer cranks up with anti-tax propaganda and the measure almost always fails.
“Perfect Storm” Uh…huh…
Who benefits?
LoudounLib @ 23
What if they dialed “9/11″ and the country responded….
From the LATimes:
Things, this is a long post – RGB has kindly inserted a break.
The reason for leaving this all in a single point is to cope with the ‘winger noise machine – having all the evidence in one contiguous hunk makes for easier defenses – but does leave a very big hunk ‘o post.
Shock doctrine…
Look for some new wonderful things now.
Fantastic Kirk! You’ve tied together many strands. Powerfully done! Hope Ian catches this.
The ‘Divine Right of Money’ exposed and properly shown in its ‘religious’ context.
Absolutely great.
Spotlight.
kirk murphy @ 24
I know what you are saying but the awful stuff that was going on before Prop. 13 should not be overlooked. Senior Citizens (like me now) whose homes were paid for, and who were living on SS and maybe a small retirement were losing their homes because THEY COULD NOT PAY THE TAXES! Every time the powers in Sac wanted money for anything they would up the taxes on homes. How would you like to be 75 years old and lose your home? I voted for Prop. 13 – it was needed and it’s been blamed for every failing in California for the last 20 years.
Not everything is the fault of Prop. 13.
SanderO @ 29
Blackwater F.D. (we don’t do clean up, just clean sweeps.)
Wow… Simply one of the most informative and laudable posts I have ever read. Off to go send and spotlight and looking forward to chatting with you later.
The people who can afford to pay taxes would rather pay a tax layer the same amount to get them a tax shelter.
Paying taxes is seen as something for the weak and stupid.
The rich are quite detestable. There’s no other word for it really.
Nice to see the actions of the Chamber of Commerce correctly tied with these, these, cretins. I almost blew a gasket when they ponied up for robo calls against S-CHIP last week.
*standing on chair clapping*
bravo, kirk
Boosh said Ahnold shows ‘leadership’ – time to spread the word about what that ‘leadership’ meant.
Twain, if the true gaol of Prop 13 were the protection of single-family homeowners, the Initiative would have protected only them.
Instead, Prop 13 gives blanket protection from property tax increases to the poorest family (who surely need it) and to the elder Gettys – as well as to every single corporate landholder in the state.
ONe of CA’s bigggest lanholders at the time of Prop 13 remained Southern Pacific Railroad – still holding on to parcles of land the RR was granted by the Feds in the 1800’s!
(Much of the RR land awarded by the Feds acvross the nation was actaully for small-holders – the RR’s just kept it – but that’s for another post).
Prop 13 helps Catellus loot the state’s treasury – guaranteeing less services and higher fees for needy seniors.
You seniors are the fig leaf (no fault to yourselves) behind which the megacorps loot the state’s coffers.
A perfectly easy solution is to preserve Prop 13 for single family residences (nost oof which were built after Prop 13 or have since changed ahnds) and end it for all other properties (and for second homes).
capitalism favors the rich
They win.
It’s YOUR system.
You don’t like it, change it.
Suzanne @ 37
Evening, Ma Cheri!
Twain @ 32
This is absolutely true. The real problem is the shift in who pays income taxes folks. When St. Ronnie was elected Governor corporations paid 80% of all CA income taxes and individuals paid the balance.
When St. Ronnie the ScumBag left office those proprotions were exactly reversed.
This is another one of those memes which are just plain wrong.
Kinda like all Americans are racist, jingoist, nativist imperialists.
Be good if folks on these Internets Googled a bit more and actually thought about what’s commonly asserted.
SanderO @ 39
“Our”…”Our system”…”We change it”…just sayin’.
This is an incredible work, filled with facts, links to supporting articles, passionate and worthy of reading by so many who have been bamboozled by the greed heads of the CfG etc.. Thanks and I’ll be sending a link on to my friends who don’t read FDL every day.
There’s got to be some California leaders, politicians, social leaders, who can finally stand up and push for the repeal of prop 13 and other anti-tax laws to creating a stronger and safer California (and Virginia, and Colorado and all the states afflicted with such greed and disregard for their fellow citizens and our nation. Yes, it might be the last ‘great stand’ of some of them, they might not get re-elected, but it has to be done. The walls are crumbling around us, the infrastructure that sustains our first world, let alone ’super power’ status is worn out, inadequate and rarely designed to meet the needs of a changing population and distressed planet.
Thanks again, this post I’ll read again, and I hope HuffPo picks it up, and soon.
kirk murphy @ 38
I was not a senior then, obviously, but I felt terrible about all the stories I was reading about people losing their homes. Would you have preferred they just lose them in order to keep the corporations from getting a break? It was a really tough call at time, but I decided on compassion. It’s really easy when you are young and healthy to be idealistic – it’s another story later on. I hate what the corporations are doing but Prop. 13 was a long time ago.
eCAHNomics @ 14
echan- don’t think this exactly true of the geography of the SD area. As a generalization, in SoCA, less expensive homes are in outlying areas, away from the cities- trade off between “what can we afford” and “what is the drive time to get to work”. The settlement pattern, and the idea of “cities” is much different for SoCA than on the east coast, because of history and geography.
uhhh…SanderO –
you’re describing the neighbors I grew up with.
I’ve never found any socioeconomic group to be so narrow as to be able to use terms like “destable” or “laudable” as generalizations.
I know (and am related to) some very wonderful rich folk.
I know (and am not related to) some poor folks who stole from our religious community and from an even poorer camper at one of the communitiy’s Witchcamps. The $75 stolen from her through forgery left her unable to pay her bills.
ONe of my ancestors is from the fourth of fifth “Puritan” ship to our shoes. I’ve never been comfortable equating ecnomic status with virtue, irrespecve of which end of the wealth spectrum is good and which is bad in a given observers’ eyes.
Shiny object: the arson investigations TradMed seems all excited about.
The real Blame Game needs to point at the Governor’s Office: four vetos of fire safety proposals from the legislature.
Recall, Arnold?
What a might fine post Kirk! You deserve not just a round of applause, but a standing ovation!
And now, I defy any sane American to ignore the fact that an insidious and potentially fatal Cancer has infected our nation.
The Cancer that is the Repug Party!
Accomodation to this Cancer is a death sentence.
And I, for one, will not go quietly into this good night!
SanderO @ 39
you like it?
eCAHNomics @ 8
This sounds dangerously close to questioning why someone would live in the Midwest (tornado alley), or along the Eastern or Southern coasts (hurricanes), or the Northeast and Mountain West(blizzards and ice storms). There’s not a place I can think of where there isn’t a risk of Mother Nature reminding us we are but a speck on her back. People live where they live, they try to mitigate the possibilities from whatever disaster the area is prone to, and get on with their lives. It is a dangerous assumption to think that there is some safe place where nothing bad ever happens and anyone who doesn’t choose to live there deserves whatever they get. Thinking that way just feeds into what Kirk is talking about here, IMHO. People want safe roads and bridges, good schools, and to know that if they call the police or fire department someone is going to show up. Unfortunately, they somehow don’t understand that it must be paid for through taxes.
Twain@ 32
“I know what you are saying but the awful stuff that was going on before Prop. 13 should not be overlooked. Senior Citizens (like me now) whose homes were paid for, and who were living on SS and maybe a small retirement were losing their homes because THEY COULD NOT PAY THE TAXES! Every time the powers in Sac wanted money for anything they would up the taxes on homes. How would you like to be 75 years old and lose your home? I voted for Prop. 13 – it was needed and it’s been blamed for every failing in California for the last 20 years.”
Not everything is the fault of Prop. 13.”
Your home was paid for by you you needed water, sewer lines x amount of police, firemen, schools, jails etc for x amount of homes that were built when you bought your home.
The housing developers who built all the new housing in Californa after that got Californa to raise taxes to pay for all the new police, firemen, schools etc that the new homes needed rather than pass that cost on to the new home owners.
In a sense you have been paying so other people could buy a home cheaper than they otherwise could.
I can’t type for beans…
sigh
allan_in_upstate – If those poor immgrants were living in those hills, they were living in somebody’s garage. My guess is that they were traveling through the area on their way North.
may @ 20
Pardon my one small modification in bold, if you don’t mind?
I know some who made money, but they gave much of it away to others and charity and left causes… millions.
So they did good with the money.
You don’t hoard what others need.
That’s ugly greed.
Mad Dogs @ 54
go for it
kirk murphy @ 52
You aren’t the only one… *g*
My compliments to the author: tremendous job. (That is the reason I come here, btw: there is always so much to be learned.)
But will this be reported? No
Will people understand that all government is not bad? Unlikely
Will people understand that certain functions of government are necessary for the general welfare (that means WELL-BEING, you numb-nuts!) of all? Probably not.
But it was really a great post! Keep up the great work.
Pragmatically speaking, that from which we are aware we seem to have arisen from, the earth, cannot sustain the assault upon it by its
“offspring”. That is sort of the bigger picture.
kirk murphy @ 52
Are you quoting Condoleezza now? /s
madmommy @ 50
Having lived in all areas of the country, I can assure you that there are negatives associated with each and every area.
Hell, even Paradise has it’s downsides such as the occasional hurricane and the threat of earthquakes and tsunamis.
Don’t you love the ones who do “art” instead of yachts!
I’m tired and off to bed and wifey.
Interesting. But you’ve ignored the obvious solution.
As you correctly noted, Article XIII A was added to the California Constitution by initiative. It can be repealed the same way.
It’s time to start gathering signatures instead of blaming the usual gaggle of right-wing boogeymen and pretending we’re powerless to do anything about this.
night Sander
burnspbesq @ 63
The idiots in Sac would probably make it retro-active.
Wow, Kirk. This piece should appear in the New York Times or WaPo.
Excellent work, kirk. Thank you.
LS: Redrum is a great name for Rover. First time I heard that one.
DWD @ 58
DWD, I’m glad you like the post (I’ve been writing since 9AM – I’m really glad!)
But please take heart – everything I’m sharing with you all I learned from media (oh – and in CA public schools before Prop 13 got to ‘em).
Hmm – take ventricle?
Yay – glad to see you well, burns!
An ‘Economic System’ is simply one of the ‘games’ which society plays. One of the fundamental problems with ours, beyond the fact that we are prepared to kill to preserve it, is that it really arises from the era were are pleased to call the ‘middle ages’ or the ‘medieval’ period (which renders us ‘modern’ with little effort on our part).
This fact makes it as difficult for us to challenge the notion of the ‘Divine Right of Money’ as it was for our forebears to challenge the notion of the ‘Divine Right of Kings (Queens)’. Now, just as then ALL major institutions, including religious ones, pay homage to this divinity. It is even held in the secret hearts of many economists to be truly God-inspired. Many ‘believe’ the ‘unseen hand’ aspect and have no compunctions in inculcating that odious notion in the hearts of their students.
Unless we are able and willing to imagine a more equitable and earth-friendly replacement it is fair to say that our future will be grim indeed.
Great Post
jo6pac
kirk murphy @ 70
Thanks for the shout. We were spared; the fire never got closer than about three miles. I’ve been working in NY all week and unable to stay up for Late Nite, which is why you haven’t heard from me.
dakine01 @ 61
Which is exactly the point. The questioning will begin soon, if it hasn’t already: “what are these people thinking, living in an area that can burn?” I don’t know if it makes people feel superior, like a disaster can’t happen to them, or what. It completely ignores, of course, the fact that the fire departments could not fight effectively with the tools they had. And the reasons they didn’t have the tools to do their jobs can be laid at the feet of politicians and people who continue to vote against their own interests over and over, then raise holy hell when the consequences of their votes come back to bite them.
This neglect of the infrastructure by the GOP and Grover wether its crappy dikes in New Orleans, bad bridges in Minnestota or letting the number of air tankers drop from 41 to 16 as the population was growing.
Is an issue every Dem can run on and win with!
Plus we can give the Club for Growth a perfect storm of their own. A huge public works rebuild the countrie’s dikes, bridges, fully fund the Fire Dept air tankers etc.
A Keyensian Prime of the economic pump to save our economy from the mess Bush has made.
If Grover was worried about National Healthcare working and convincing people that big government is a good idea well imagine what a national rebuiling program will do Bahahaha!
Grover should buy stock in an antacid company…he’s going to need it.
After all there isn’t a REAL stockmarket guy who doesn’t know that when adjusted for inflation the DOW under Bush hasn’t reached the high it was under Bill.
Too bad there are not many of them on the business channel, but Fox thinks that our business news is to down on business?
I predict that going into a Bush caused recession that Fox’s good news network is going to cost investors money and bomb spectacularly Bahahaha!
TeddySanFran @ 47
Day One: Shrub and The Schwartz (with enablers like DiFi)are making photo ops out of this disaster and diverting the blame away from themselves and their antitax policy. They will pin the blame on anyone or anything they can stick it to. It will NOT be the result of insufficient manpower and equipment due to tax/budget cuts.
Who will be our media representative to get the true story out? This piece has all the parts – A Fire Chief’s plea for funding and his subsequent resignation, the schwartz vetos, Republican tax cuts at the expense of public safety…
Let’s get Sean Penn. Fast.
Things Come Undone @ 51
Here in Florida, I think they call it “impact fees”.
dakine01 @ 61
I like my odds…! ;-)
Why has Grover Norquist not been called in to testify considering his influence on the domestic policies of our country? Throw in Ralph Reed too. There is plenty of evidence that these people are a factor. I just don’t get that.
I’ve got a shrinky view on this (how do you feel about that?)
Docs with too mcu time ontheir hands and too little desire to just go make money take fellowships (pardon the sexist term). A fellowhsip is sub-specialty training beyond one’s medical specialty.
So, after I finished my shrink training (residency) I had the great good fortuen to do a fellowhip in Trauma/Consultation-Liasion Psychiatry at UCLA.
On the trauma side I worked with…well..trauma.
ON the c/l side, I worked with folks with sever medical illnesses, serving as a psych consultant for their docs.
(I love and miss that work, but that’s another story).
Folks who have experienced a great loss or trauma (or seen a great loss or trauma) will tell themselves a tale in which – had they just done something different – the accident/illness would not have happened.
Just the same way young kikds will blame themselves for their parents’ divorce.
FOr us humans, being powerful and at fault is less scary than being helpless before awful events.
Hence the Puritans’ ( a despised sect after tthe Restoration) conviction that success reflects Divine favor – displeasing the ALmighty (willfully) is less awful than just failing and being helpless.
I do believe this mechanism underlies much of the “it’s their fault ’cause they did X” response to others’ tragedies.
Better to be at fault (or for someone else to be at fault) than for all of us to be helpless beofre the Undertoad.
DWD @ 58
DWD has a point Kirk keep bringing this subject up as often as you can repeating a message does aid memory. Just update the information and tie it in to whatever is currently in the news. I wonder how Arnold’s poll numbers will look after the people who lost their homes finnaly get land lines again so pollsters can call them?
If Arnold’s poll numbers drop I want the reasons in this post to be attributed as the cause.
The media does look at us when they google a topic and see a post that provides them with a story angle, research and often pro and con arguments all wrapped up for them.
Arnolds Polls go down after the fire the MSM will be looking for a cause.
Somehow, I think this has flown under the radar, please listen if you didn’t hear it before:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..bout-iran/
Twain @ 32
The other prop that year on taxes would have done the same thing, and given the state a lot more flexibility in dealing with changes.
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Kirk, look up the incident where Fremont killed three of the Berryesas, in 1846. I ran into while reading Encarnacion’s Kitchen (the earliest non-Anglo CA cookbook, in Spanish, from the 1890s). It’s another one for your massacre list.
Kirk,
Thanks for this post. Tho I must admit I am still reading it.
two unrelated points:
I remember back in the 70s a college prof of mine (at UCSC) saying “California is the cutting edge of western civilization”. Made sense at the time. My current revision, perhaps a propos (or not), is “As
MaineCalifornia goes, so goes the nation.” In terms of the issues Kirk addresses.And, re: the arsonist stuff- arsonists have been setting fires in CA for as long as I can remember. The other eve I tried to remember back and come up with some percentage as to the “big burns” that have been due to arsonists, vs. natural causes. My current guess is hovering around at least 20%, and maybe even 33%.
Dr Kirk,
What I find most disturbing is that there never is a time when a post like yours is recognized as being necessary and just. If you write it before the tragedy, you are being an alarmist. If you write it after the tragedy has occurred, you are being ghoulish in casting blame when you should be silent for the losses of the people (and presumably for the insurance companies)
If you wait a while and write it: then it is old news. There is never a right time in America for the truth. And this paradigm is applicable to entirety of our current media in regard to damned near everything.
We warned that the war was going to be a disaster. We were naysayers. When it turned out to be disaster, we were unAmerican for criticizing the soldiers. Now that it has gone on for five years, there really is nothing we can do about it except see it through because of all of the lives we have lost. . .
And on and on.
Wow – thanks for the ref, PJ.
Pardon my hs Spanish – is the cookbook available in English?
(hangs head, looks bovineish)
I wonder if we can still find a Chicago School Economics guy willing to defend tax cuts after all this fire, flood, bridge collapsing that was made worst by our government being starved for tax dollars to prepare for these VERY PREDICTIBLE DISASTERS.
The excuses should be hilarious!
There is a Naomi upstairs!!!
kirk @ 80:
That makes sense to me, I can see how hard it is to accept that we can’t prevent bad things from happening to us.
Maybe because I lived through it with Katrina, I get very defensive when I hear politicians and other people start in with the “why do you live where you live when you know X can happen?” It’s nothing but a red herring that keeps the discussion away from doing what needs to be done to try to keep the same tragedy from happening again.
Thanks for the headshrinking, though ;0)
wow Kirk, thanks
When Prop13 passed out in CA, many folks who actually understood that it would someday cause this to happen said so and were heckled unmercifully because the republicans could By God Prove that one could have it all, lower taxes and the sunny California lifestyle. Howard Jarvis was elevated to the status of a right-wing Demi-God.
And it seemed to work that way, even as the infrastructure decayed and a few brave souls mentioned it they were unmercifully Mau-Maued by the CFG and the other no-tax morons. By the late 1980s/early 1990s even George Bush I was not immune to being Mau-Maued, remember what happened to him after “No New Taxes” and then his plunge into Fiscal Sanity? Yeah, so does Preznit Dummer N. Dogshit.
Well wake up call, duuudes… it’s been said the California leads the Nation. If you like the sitch out there due to the lack of public tax-based funding America, wait until the Chinese and the rest of the world decide that the paper we’re selling to maintain our Club for Growth tax-cuts are worthless, oh wait they have already started to do that.
The California wildfires will just be Act I. Act 2 is gonna be ugly and Act 3 will be ugly on a scale not seen perhaps since the Great Depression.
Thanks tpo all of you who have commented (and read my “War and Peace” of a post – or even part of it.)
Again, apologies for length – but when you’re trying to kill the king, you only have one shot.
I’m trying to kill the Chicago cult of greed -and the careers of those who serve it.
Hope this helped.
Kirk can you repost this? Tomarrow
Fantastic post. Well done, good sir. I learned a lot of history (and its unfortunate impact on our current events here in fire territory).
But maybe the best thing you’ve done here, Kirk, is re-focus people on the damage done to our state by Prop 13 — not only fire fighting, but education, and our entire state’s infrastructure has been badly damaged since the passage of that odious Prop.
The idea would be to spare the individual home owners of horrendous property tax increases and, instead, put the onus (and the taxes) on the big businesses that profitted inordinately from Prop 13. Paint a new ballot initiative as the People v. Big Business and my vote is with “the people” (even though Big Business will throw wads of money against it).
Kirk @ 92 “I’m trying to kill the Chicago cult of greed -and the careers of those who serve it.
Hope this helped.”
“Laughter has thrown down more tyrannts than armies” the Chicago school’s logic is hilarious!
Cognitive dissonance in Academia to reach conclusions before you have the facts is always funny. Read the “Bell Curve Wars ” if you have the time after reading your post I think your right about the length the MSM gots onestop shopping if they read this!
Kirk, excellent, excellent post!
Things, tahnks so much for your interest and thoughts and invitation to repost.
I’m grateful to have had the chance to put this up once on the Lake – I hope folks who fond it useful will refer others here.
As for a repost – well, I’ve never seen the Lkae do one, and with the number of really good contributors we have, I wouldn’t want to take a slot to post the same piece twice – but I thank you for your kind question.
radlib1 – Love your idea on CA prop tax reform – you have my vote! Hope you and those you love and your community came through OK.
I heard Glen Beck the other night saying it was liberal, environmental, tree hugger policies for the last 40 years that were responsible for the new breed of wildfire. And only a liberal would be stupid enough to mention anything about a global warming connection since how could 1 degree warmer have anything to do with a superfire. Unfortunately, the simple minds will go with this simplistic,winger CW rather than Kirk’s economic history or reality.
Kirk — Thank you. My family and I are fine. We live in Playa Del Rey, near LAX, fortunately nowhere near the fire zone. But even though the sunsets are beautiful, the smell of smoke and the eerie stillness of the air is still palpable throughout L.A.
Something has to be done to change things.
And you pointed your intelligent finger right at Prop 13. We have to do something to change it. The future of our children demands that we fight this moral and political ignorance. Prop 13 has to be overturned.
radlib1 @ 99
I’m ambivalent about that one — I literally could not afford the property taxes to keep my home if that were overturned.
But there must be a way to fine tune it so that megacorporations are not hiding under this proposition, while it protects residential homeowners.
Hi pb – many Californians could not keep their residences if Prop 13 were overturned.
We can keep Prop 13 for single-family (or owner-occupied) homes…
and end Prop 13 for commercial properties….
thus restoring the state’s property tax base.
I, personally, don’t want to overturn Prop 13 to hurt the individual homeowners. I just would like to see businesses (particularly Big Business) carry more of the tax load.
great post!
Hey! Can we have this in PDF form please????
I need to read it off of the computer.
Thanks.
Hey. I just realized I can make in a pdf. I will do it and fix it so you guys can download and print it.
Speaking of Grover Norquist…and how his Republican tax-cutters would deal with things…I think Brian Eno was prophetic “Baby’s on fire, why don’t we throw her in the water.
Republicans are already starting the meme that these firestorms were worse in Clintons Administration when he allowed the “Greens” and environmentalists to ake over the Forest Service.
Except that’s simply not true. Of the 12 worst fires in California in terms of area destroyed TEN have occurred while Bush has been President. And all of these were well into his term of office. These were not simply policy carry-overs. And that fact is underlined by the evidence that the worst fire disasters elsewhere in the US have also occurred while he was in office.
Here are the 12 most severe fires in California
#1 – Cedar Fire (>280,278 acres (1,134 km²)~ Oct 2003
#2 Zaca Fire ~ Los Padres NF (240,207 acres)~ July-Aug. 2007
#3 – Witch Fire (197,990 acres (>801 km²)~Oct. 2007
#4 – Laguna Fire (175,425 acres (710 km²)~ Sept. 1970
#5 – Marble-Cone Fire (~178,000 acres (720 km²) ~ Aug 1977
#6 – Day Fire (162,700 acres (658 km²) ~ Sept. 2006
#7 – McNally Fire (150,670 acres (610 km²) ~July-Aug. 2002
#8 – Old Fire (91,281 acres (369 km²) ~ Oct. 2003
#9 – Harris Fire (81,100 acres (328 km²) ~Oct. 2007
#10 – Moonlight Fire (65,000 acres (263 km²) ~ Sept. 2007
#11 – Sawtooth Complex fire (61,700 acres (250 km²) ~ July 2006
#12 – Ranch Fire (55,756 acres (226 km²) ~ Oct. 2007
The Milford Flat Fire which burned in 2007 in Utah is statistically the largest fire burning in American history. This fire burned 363,052 acres before it was fully contained.
The Yellowstone National Park Fire of 1988 during George H.W. Bush’s tenure burned well over 793,880 acres (321,271 ha) before the winter snows put out the flames. (See: Yellowstone fires of 1988)
In the Reagan era the “Siege of 1987″ was a complex of”independent” fires in northern California and southern Oregon that burned a total of about 650,000 acres. These fires were started by a large lightning storm in late August. The storm started roughly 1600 new fires, most caused by dry lightning. Firefighting efforts continued into October, before the majority of the fires were controlled.
Not a Clinton-era Fire within the clutch of top California fires. But Bush during his Presidential run, ignoring the fact that the worst US fires occurred in Republican Presidential tenures (including Daddy’s) , used the high-profile Cerro-Grande fire near the Los Alamos Labs in New Mexico (2000- 45,000 acres) as a centerpiece of his attacks on Clinton-Gore National Forest policies.
But it’s clear that this Administration is far worse than Clinton’s by orders of magnitude when you look at the actual consequences.
The fires are increasing in frequency, in intensity, and in their destruction. Much of this destruction is due to extended drought and increasing differentials of high-low pressure zones over the Continental. These are climatic changes…never recorded in historic periods. Anti-Global warming proponents like to argue that a single “event” doesn’t indicate a pattern. But look at the pattern. Then throw in a negligent fire-suppression policy that places harvesting of forest cover above the need to establish fire-control policies that are concordant with the distinctive ecologies and changing climatic conditions in the region…the result is a recipe for an inferno.
And there are more disasters that can be laid on his doorstep…both because of his failure to deal with Climate Policy…but also his failure to make available the funds for preventative fire-control measures, and quick strike response when fires initiate in tinderbox conditions…this despite the availability of modern technology such as High Resolution Satellite Imagery, Drone Aircraft, and rapid deployment capability of (unavailable) firefighters and suppression aircraft.
kirk murphy @ 92
Marilyn In Texas @ 107
Well, I had something intelligent to say, but it must have gone down Alice’s keyhole. The short of it was how much I enjoyed and admired your post. Thanks.
Marilyn thanks for your kind comments!
Yep – the first one is up your response (quoted at 108).
The software herre starts our comments up well above the end of watever text we comment on….
So thansk fo rboth of your kind comments – and again, welcome!
Kirk — I’ve got to tell you, this is the post that has most affected me in the last months or even eons. Please come back. We need you. And we need to act on your leads.
I remember pre Prop. 13 California. We had the best schools – music, art, and the rest. We had the best parks. We had . . . . the best, most of the time.
We also had a very bad system of property taxation – people were losing their lifelong homes because the property taxes were reassesed every year. No one could plan for inflation and market vagaries. People hid their ‘home improvements’ from the taxman, which lead to black market contractors and the attendant ills that come with illegal operations. Back then, widows still had to pay inheritance taxes on whatever their husbands left them, which generally meant stripping income generating capital from the widow and then later taking her house when she couldn’t pay the taxes.
We had a corrupt way of assessing taxes on new development – developers could build hundreds of houses and not pay adequately for schools, sewers, waste treatment – etc. Now we have Mello-Russ which is sometimes applied to new developments, but not frequently enough.
We had a bad system of dispursing property taxes to schools, one that was maintained after Prop. 13. In places where kids went mainly to private schools, the public teachers were paid badly, so that even today, a teacher in Gilroy gets more money than a teacher in my east bay city (where the cost of living is significantly higher).
oh dear
er…um….
“up in your response”
not “up your response”
..um…gracious…
Mariyln, I’m just so grateful my 109 wasn’t our first meeting.
I wonder…
If someone breaks into Grover Norquist’s house, robs him, kicks his ass and roughs his family up, does he go to the police? Who are paid with tax money?
Man, there are some people you’d like to board up in their houses so they can’t go out of doors.
Things Come Undone @ 87
I can hear them now: government interfered with high taxes and wouldn’t let the free market work.
I know it doesn’t relate, but it’s what they always say. Of course, they also say they’re for sound fiscal policy and small government at the same time they have Bush in office and have us $9 Trillion dollars in debt. Crazy, ain’t it?
Elect a Democrat, it might just save your life!
radlib1 @ 99
King George plays war in Iraq while America New Orleans drowns, Milwaukeans fall to their deaths and San Diegans lose everything to fire.
Vote Democratic, it will probably save your life.
Sailmaker @ 111
It sounds like you need a Progressive Democrat to push for some pretty big changes.
Don’t expect a Repub or DLC Dem to push very hard on something corporations don’t want.
cinnnamonape, wow –
thank yuo for sharing your mastery of this subject.
I’m scared that the usual suspects will use the chaparral fires to justify logging ancient forests…
(just as was done in Oregon some years back after teh B&B arson fires….started two days before Shrub’s scheduled visit…)
cinnamonape @ 106
I’m glad you hadn’t gone to bed before seeing my contribution Kirk…make use of it what you will.
madmommy @ 50
It’s not “dangerously close” to it at all, and attempting to equate the risks of choosing to locate in high-risk, fire-prone ecosystems to the extremely low risk of tornado damage in the Midwest is nothing short of irresponsible.
You can’t build in 100-year floodplainz, either, and these ecosystems will burn. That is what they do, regardless of misguided (and irresponsible) efforts of humans to control those natural systems. They burn more intensely when natural fire regimes are suppressed.
Planetizen headlines a (CSM) story this way:
Growth Pushes People Into Fireplace (links are embedded in prevous post/thread).
… referring to a Christian Science Monitor article that gets right to the heart of the story:
California’s age of megafires
CSM gives Schwarzenegger way too much credit for improvements to the emergency response system, but they got the core story right.
Again: The ONLY thing “dangerous” about the situation is the reckless disregard for real-world conditions in choosing where to locate one’s residence. It is a naive, impractical, and even delusional attitude that defies common-sense, not to mention any real, workable solution.
Oh—it also raises your taxes.
But didja catch the kicker there? It’s worth repeating:
Maybe the motto should be: Republikans lose money because they refuse to spend money. Ahnold resembles Giuliani in that respect and all the other repukes that had warning and made bogus or no preparations.
And what is it with cutting fire-fighters budgets? I thought they were supposed to be the Heroes post-9/11? A sacred cow so to speak, and rightfully so in many ways.
Ah sorry Kirk, I forgot about the explanation in the above post in my rant.
I like to skim a long article first and then re-read, but not this one. When Kirk jumps on Prop 13, the favored boogeyman for people who can’t be bothered to think, then I’m off. Twain @ 32 has it exactly right. Rising prop values and rising taxes threatened any moderate income homeowner with being gentrified right out of his home. If you weren’t here then you have no clue – I was. I remember. And if you’re still clueless, take a look at revenues – California does not lack for property tax revenue. It’s all about allocation, not about revenue. Changes in home ownership ratchet the taxes up.
Sorry, Kirk, but when you make an egregious mistake like that, I cannot read the rest without wondering if the same sloppy research is behind the rest.
More confirmation that Arnold’s failure to fund Cal Fire and his vetos of four fire mesaures let SoCal burn:
Liar.
Here’s the dirty little secret your political bosses won’t let you speak, Mr Grijalva:
Arnold and the CA Rethugs deliberately chose not to spend enough money to have spotters to be ready to go 24/7 during the Santa Ana season.
Fully staffed services on the scene, ready to go – that costs money.
More money than Arnold and the CA Rethugs wanted to spend.
The Club for
GreedGrowth would spank them if they raised taxes – and threaten their jobs.Arnold and CA Rethugs protected their jobs -
And sacrificed SoCal homes and communities.
Your time is your own to spend, argonaut.
The assessment of Prop 13’s effects on CA State services is simple fact – not a reflection of any research skills on this end.
This fact is not popular with those who choose to believe that govenrment can be funded indefinitely with no tax increases.
If you choose to misconstrue that fact and use your misconstrual as a basis to question the research in the piece, I admire your skill with rhetorical tricks and their use in misdirection.
excellent post, thank you, Kirk, for pulling it all together. I think that a lot of those houses didn’t even exist 15 years ago, and that as communities grow, the don’t seem to ‘get it’ that all infrastructure needs to grow. We’re facing that now where I live in CA. and finally talking about a tax increase to fund more police and fire personnel. IMHO, Prop.13 and it’s spawn were the downfall of California.
kirk murphy @ 123
Excellent post Kirk.
California’s underfunded emergency services and the resulting devastation, the Minnesota bridge collapse, the destruction of New Orleans, and so many other preventable disasters are the inevitable result of putting government in the hands of people who don’t believe in it, like Norquist and his fellow goons.