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		<title>By: macbob</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/24/we-the-people/#comment-1056652</link>
		<dc:creator>macbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That’s very nice of you, newtonusr.  Been lurking since fdl’s infancy but thought I’d finally throw in.  I like to think my comment at Findspine’s site had something to do with its doors slamming shut.  “We can’t hear you…Lalalalalalala…;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s very nice of you, newtonusr.  Been lurking since fdl’s infancy but thought I’d finally throw in.  I like to think my comment at Findspine’s site had something to do with its doors slamming shut.  “We can’t hear you…Lalalalalalala…;-)</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/24/we-the-people/#comment-1056074</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;HI macbob. Welcome!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI macbob. Welcome!</p>
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		<title>By: macbob</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/24/we-the-people/#comment-1056065</link>
		<dc:creator>macbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just wrote to one of my senators regarding the FISA bill:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dear Senator Findspine,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sincerely,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;bob&lt;br /&gt;
long beach, ca&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wrote to one of my senators regarding the FISA bill:</p>
<p>Dear Senator Findspine,</p>
<p>Please do.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>bob<br />
long beach, ca</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/24/we-the-people/#comment-1055664</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;These are great for sending to congress.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://backbonecampaign.org/page.cfm?id=67&quot;&gt;http://backbonecampaign.org/page.cfm?id=67&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Thank-N-Spank Accountability Toolkit:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
We offer this combination of tools to respectfully create a dynamic relationship between representative and constituent. Download these FREE tools to add creativity to your citizen lobbying efforts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For EXTRA fun and effect consider staging a Backbone Patrol visit to the office or event of your elected official. Our Backbone Patrol Action on January 29, 2007 was featured in the March 2007 episode of LibertyNewsTV (minute 9-28). Don’t miss the especially entertaining song and dance routing dedicated to Senator Joseph Lieberman found below.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great for sending to congress.</p>
<p><a href="http://backbonecampaign.org/page.cfm?id=67">http://backbonecampaign.org/page.cfm?id=67</a><br />
<b><br />
Thank-N-Spank Accountability Toolkit:</b><br />
We offer this combination of tools to respectfully create a dynamic relationship between representative and constituent. Download these FREE tools to add creativity to your citizen lobbying efforts.</p>
<p>For EXTRA fun and effect consider staging a Backbone Patrol visit to the office or event of your elected official. Our Backbone Patrol Action on January 29, 2007 was featured in the March 2007 episode of LibertyNewsTV (minute 9-28). Don’t miss the especially entertaining song and dance routing dedicated to Senator Joseph Lieberman found below.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/24/we-the-people/#comment-1055577</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1054502&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Joe Klein’s conscience @ 71&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
I know this might be geting ahead of things, but can we start planning now to primary her in 2012?  I say to plan now, because CA will take an awful lost of money(obviously), and the earlier we plan, the better off we’ll be.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve argued for taking the House ’cause it’s cheaper. But, in this instance you might be absolutely right. I mean, how hard could it be to find a great Blue Dem in California who has all the experience and personal qualities to get elected?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1054502"><em>Joe Klein’s conscience @ 71</em></a></p>
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…<br />
I know this might be geting ahead of things, but can we start planning now to primary her in 2012?  I say to plan now, because CA will take an awful lost of money(obviously), and the earlier we plan, the better off we’ll be.</p>
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<p>I’ve argued for taking the House ’cause it’s cheaper. But, in this instance you might be absolutely right. I mean, how hard could it be to find a great Blue Dem in California who has all the experience and personal qualities to get elected?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/24/we-the-people/#comment-1055564</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1054414&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kathleen @ 7&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Middle east hearing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rep Pence pledging his allegiance to Israel. He is worried by what he heard on the radio driving to work today. He is worried that he heard that the Bush administration is committed to “the creation of a Palestinian state” and that this would be the focus of the Middle east conference coming up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He sayed to Condi that our commitment should be to Israel and Israel only. Pence “I pledge allegiance to Israel”&lt;br /&gt;
…
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Idiot. Doesn’t he know we “support” Israel, but we don’t owe ANY allegiance to it. We are their ally. Maybe he doesn’t know the difference between ‘allied’ and ‘allegiance’.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1054414"><em>Kathleen @ 7</em></a></p>
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…</p>
<p>Middle east hearing</p>
<p>Rep Pence pledging his allegiance to Israel. He is worried by what he heard on the radio driving to work today. He is worried that he heard that the Bush administration is committed to “the creation of a Palestinian state” and that this would be the focus of the Middle east conference coming up.</p>
<p>He sayed to Condi that our commitment should be to Israel and Israel only. Pence “I pledge allegiance to Israel”<br />
…
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<p>Idiot. Doesn’t he know we “support” Israel, but we don’t owe ANY allegiance to it. We are their ally. Maybe he doesn’t know the difference between ‘allied’ and ‘allegiance’.</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/24/we-the-people/#comment-1055520</link>
		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1055486&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;kathleen @ 286&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;What a power move RBG I will be sure to share that with many and on national radio shows too&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is time for me to move on to other matters and time for you to find another blog that will welcome your participation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1055486"><em>kathleen @ 286</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>What a power move RBG I will be sure to share that with many and on national radio shows too</p>
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<p>It is time for me to move on to other matters and time for you to find another blog that will welcome your participation.</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/24/we-the-people/#comment-1055486</link>
		<dc:creator>kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What a power move RBG I will be sure to share that with many and on national radio shows too&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a power move RBG I will be sure to share that with many and on national radio shows too</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/24/we-the-people/#comment-1055482</link>
		<dc:creator>kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;RBG That was so out of line it is hard to believe&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I suggest that you go back and read the blog and find that you did inflame the issue. There have been many comments that were of an affirmative nature and some that were not to comments about the hearing.  And then you jumped in at 182 and 228 and started personally attacking,,,way out of line and incredibly inappropriate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RBG That was so out of line it is hard to believe</p>
<p> I suggest that you go back and read the blog and find that you did inflame the issue. There have been many comments that were of an affirmative nature and some that were not to comments about the hearing.  And then you jumped in at 182 and 228 and started personally attacking,,,way out of line and incredibly inappropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/24/we-the-people/#comment-1055460</link>
		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1055444&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;kathleen @ 283&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well  RBB you are clearly unable to read back through this blog and see that you did indeed escalate the spiral.  If you are unable to truly reflect that is the problem of you and your “backstage crew”.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again I will tell you that FDL folks have contacted me off line and shared that they feel that Firedoglake is often not able to deal with this issue as honestly as they try to deal with other issues. (though I do believe they try at times)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;People have also shared that they are intimidated to speak their minds due to the responses to this issue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The point that I have heard from folks off the blog  is that the bloggers here can rip on oh so many topics but that the I/p issue is the “sacred cow” here and at many other so called “progressive blogs”.   Now whether you or your “backstage crew” want to admit this that is your problem.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;RBG you have not opened up one second to the possibility that you may have something to look at here.   Go back and read the blog…or not.  Back to the issues&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have invested far too much time trying to address a situation that I did not create.  Apparently it has been to no avail.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps there are other site that are better suited for your participation. On behalf of all the moderators at FDL, I certainly hope so.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1055444"><em>kathleen @ 283</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Well  RBB you are clearly unable to read back through this blog and see that you did indeed escalate the spiral.  If you are unable to truly reflect that is the problem of you and your “backstage crew”.  </p>
<p>Again I will tell you that FDL folks have contacted me off line and shared that they feel that Firedoglake is often not able to deal with this issue as honestly as they try to deal with other issues. (though I do believe they try at times)</p>
<p>People have also shared that they are intimidated to speak their minds due to the responses to this issue.</p>
<p>The point that I have heard from folks off the blog  is that the bloggers here can rip on oh so many topics but that the I/p issue is the “sacred cow” here and at many other so called “progressive blogs”.   Now whether you or your “backstage crew” want to admit this that is your problem.   </p>
<p>RBG you have not opened up one second to the possibility that you may have something to look at here.   Go back and read the blog…or not.  Back to the issues</p>
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<p>I have invested far too much time trying to address a situation that I did not create.  Apparently it has been to no avail.</p>
<p>Perhaps there are other site that are better suited for your participation. On behalf of all the moderators at FDL, I certainly hope so.</p>
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