You can add slumlord to Joe Lieberman's list of job descriptions:
At the end of the street was a big pile of trash. A lot, listed on city of Stamford's tax-assessors office as 0 Henry Street, was partially paved with dirty mattresses, and two Latino laborers sat in the lot dolefully, at the end of a late-summer afternoon, surrounded by crushed beer cans and other trash.
Asked where they lived, the young fellows pointed to the boarded-up multi-family unit at 3 Henry. They were squatting in a property owned by the estate of the late Bernard Manger, whose co-executor is none other than his nephew, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman.
Lieberman, the favorite nephew of Bernard's and the junior senator from Connecticut, moved back to his hometown of Stamford earlier this year and now lives in a condo across from a school he attended as a Stamford youth. When his uncle died in 1995, Lieberman was named as co-executor of the estate with family attorney Harold Bernstein; he's paid about $25,000 a year for his trusteeship duties.
The Manger Family Trust recently sold the properties to make way for a huge office complex, netting the beneficiaries a cool $17 million dollars:
Given Lieberman's status and influence, it's fair to ask some questions about not only the timing of the deal, but the overall context within which it was made. Even if Lieberman himself is not a beneficiary from this sale, his extended family is. And this deal was made within the same time period that the Stamford Urban Transitway plan now being implemented in the South End kicked off; that transportation-infrastructure-improvement project launched in 2003 and the senator has helped it along through his efforts in securing federal transportation earmarks.
Joe has done so much to help George Bush usher in a new gilded age, why shouldn't he enjoy the fruits of it?
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Jane!
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four!
Heh. Off to notify downstairs, and then to read what is, no doubt, another excellent post.
FunnyD
Oooh, missed it by that much!
Congrats, diva.
Now, off to read…
I’m looking at a Coast Guard helicopter out my window - apparently they aren’t doing anything but looking around. Prolley got a governor or lt. governer in it.
Hello again, Jane.
Is that a discarded rape gurney in the first shot?
Oh, wait, it’s a bicycle.
OldCoastie @ 7
Not a decider on it?!
Joe Lieberman. Who’s interests, other than his own, does he represent?
Bush is really popular in the Golden State:
CA hearts George!
So that’s why he registered in Stamford to vote as a Democrat. I was wondering: Why Stamford? before I wondered: Why is he registering as a Democrat?
news is saying the tankers have arrived…
Mods may want to fix this paragraph:
The Manger Family Trust recently sold the properties recently sold these properties to make way for a huge office complex.
FunnyD
Gawd I’d like to have a tap on Lieberman’s phone.
OldCoastie @ 14
Woohoo, OC! Great news.
OldCoastie @ 7
Oh, bugger. How disappointing, OC. Hope the real firefighters fly in soon.
FunnyD
Hi Jane,
I hope you’re feeling great!
Shorter Joe Lieberman: My Republican buddies told me that the little people don’t deserve a safe, clean place to live.
-S
Joe Lieberman and another very significant “Democrat” derive their campaign money from many of the same interests.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 16
Wouldn’t all dems have taps on their phone lines.
Ya know, if I was smart, I shoulda gone into congress. Stupid me. I thought people had to work for a living, and that making the most of what you had took hard work! What a sap I am!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 16
I wonder who DOES have a tap on Lieberman’s phone?
I’m hopeful! I hear lots of big ol’ things in the sky!
Nice catch Jane.
You can’t shock me at the greed and lack of ethics of these servants of the people.
HoJo will rot in hell… but there is no hell. He’ll die a rich bitter old man.
These people are sickening. But we already knew that.
Sigh-
I think my outrage meter is on the fritz again.
Jane, you dig up the best dirt on these guys. And they are (almost)ALL dirty.
Super-duper funny Mark Fiore Cartoon:Spineocrat - a prescription for Spineless Dems!
OldCoastie @ 24
That is such great news…it feels like the tide is turning..best wishes OC!!
Hey - do we have any estates and trusts lawyers visiting today?
Anyone want to explain the ramifications of this — besides Sen. Lieberman’s little income pop from being a co-executor?
I mean, he’s probably NOT the trustee for the family trust, right? Don’t bank trust departments do that?
There would have been some sort of trust documents that would have done the “after my death, here is how I want the proceeds of the trust dealt with” sort of language, I think. Maybe Sen. Lieberman received some of the proceeds of the trust…maybe he did not….no way to know unless you could get access to the Manger Family Trust documents. I don’t know if that is considered “public” in the state of CT.
From an article by Lieberman in the WaPo:
While we are naturally focused on Iraq, a larger war is emerging. On one side are extremists and terrorists led and sponsored by Iran, on the other moderates and democrats supported by the United States. Iraq is the most deadly battlefield on which that conflict is being fought. How we end the struggle there will affect not only the region but the worldwide war against the extremists who attacked us on Sept. 11, 2001.
Because of the bravery of many Iraqi and coalition military personnel and the recent coming together of moderate political forces in Baghdad, the war is winnable. We and our Iraqi allies must do what is necessary to win it.
The American people are justifiably frustrated by the lack of progress, and the price paid by our heroic troops and their families has been heavy. But what is needed now, especially in Washington and Baghdad, is not despair but decisive action — and soon.
OC Register is reporting the Governator is just down the hill at the high school… funny how the fixed wing show up just after the governor does…
but that would be ungrateful and I wouldn’t think a thing like that.
We already knew Joe was slushy.
Turns out he’s slummy too.
AZ Matt @ 27
O..M..G LOL
AZ Matt @ 27
biting!
itwasntme @ 22
Ya know, if I was smart, I shoulda gone into congress. Stupid me. I thought people had to work for a living, and that making the most of what you had took hard work! What a sap I am!
Life sucks - ya work hard, pay people to represent you, and they don’t.
But then - your - and my - net worth is most likely well below the 8, 9, or 10 figure range. so you’ll get no respect - until it comes time to vote.
These fuckers keep forgetting that we do tend to vote…
LA fire OT:
Here in Marina del Rey/Culver City area, just noticed a strange change: warmer, absolutely no breeze, very heavy smoke cover.
I have no idea if it means anything, but might indicate weather change or another fire started someplace.
OldCoastie @ 7
I think the governator is here today (and the preznit in SD tomorrow). Could be that.
Damn, I should work from home. Closer to the fire, but cleaner air than at work which is downwind from the gunk.
*gak*
ooo - FBI team just showed up with a billion sheriffs… perhaps they will catch the fucker who did this…
OldCoastie @ 31
This is what I get for not reading thru all the comments first ;-)
As for the timing…hrmph.
Could well be all the security and other arrangments fucked up the general working. That will probably happen in SD too with the arrangements necessary for the preznit…no fun for them.
OldCoastie @ 24
Keep your camera real close, OC. If the big bombers show up you might get a shot of a DC-10 dropping its load of 30,000 gal. There is also a Martin Mars (4 engine water scooper) sent from BC which drops 6,000 gal.
Good luck. Stay safe.
Joe Lieberman is past chairman of the DLC. Hillary Clinton is today a Leadership Team Leader in the DLC.
Jane!!! Gilded not guilded!
OldCoastie @ 38
I have to keep telling myself I am against death penalty…strictly against death penalty…against, against, against…as I mull appropriate retribution for the low life scum(s) who set this fire…
OldCoastie @ 38
You mean Al-Qaeda?
peanutbutter @ 43
fuckin’ sicko.
itwasntme @ 36
Sounds like the wind has died down…I hope that is what it is!! According to the weather people, the winds will stall and then start blowing with increased humidity from the West. Hopefully, the smoke cover is due to the stall…the heavy smoke cover is scary. Please take care of yourself!!
Toby Wollin @ 29
I do some T&E in my practice. The exact law varies widely from state to state but the basic principles remain the same. In short, if he’s named Executor (or Trustee) and does his job even D-minus well, he is not only entitled to the commissions (executors’ fees), but he is usually required by law to take them. In full. Usually, the commissions are calculated on the basis of a percentage of (a) the Estate’s worth - easy to determine when it’s liquid - the so-called “corpus” and (b) the income of the Estate (be it interest, profit, whatever) during the preceding year.
The disposition of Trust and Estate property can often take many years. This depends on how the trust or estate is structured, and this in turn depends on how the document creating the Trust or Estate (i.e., the Will) is itself written. One would have to be intimately familiar with these documents and the relevant state T&E law and state and federal estate tax law to really make a solid determination. If it’s a testamentary trust (i.e., one created by a will) the document creating it (the Will itself) would (almost surely) have to have been admitted to probate. To be admitted, the Will would then be on file with the local functionary (County Clerk, Surrogate, Register of Wills, whatever they call them in the relevant state) and publicly accessible as a recorded document.
OK?
And, Jane, it’s a Gilded Age he’s been helping build, not a Guilded Age. Were it the latter, it’d be a hell of a lot easier to form and join a union, dontcha think?
OldCoastie @ 45
One could *hope* they got hoisted by their own fire. I suppose it would be unethical to make sure they *did*.
Gah.
I’m down in the flats, perfectly safe, but my Mom’s house and several family are in semi-danger zone, although it’s really hard to tell where the heck these fires actually are at any moment. Some family in optional evacuation area.
Did you know Joe Lieberman sits on the board of directors for the Nixon Center?
http://www.nndb.com/org/253/000053094/
NO! Lieberman? Nixon? How did we get fooled by this joker in 2004?
Paging punaise to the white courtesy phone, punaise to the white courtesy phone.
My contempt of Joe Lieberman…..
Lieberman’s business deals do seem very Bush-like.
scribe @ 47
There’s a report on Huffington Post that Gov’t Auditors warned Bush about poor firefighting plans. I hope someone with a voice doesn’t give him a pass on this. The MSM certainly will. At least the OC Register covered it.
If we fail to profit from rotten real estate deals, then the terrorists have won.
Breaking: Iraq Revokes All Contractor Immunity
By Spencer Ackerman - October 24, 2007, 11:00AM
The metaphorical statue of L. Paul Bremer III has come crashing down. Today the Iraqi government formally revoked one of the Coalition Provisional Authority’s enduring vestiges — a decree of immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts for U.S. security contractors.
The Iraqi government announced on Wednesday that it has decided to formally revoke the immunity from prosecution granted to private security companies operating in the war-ravaged country.
“The cabinet held a meeting yesterday and decided to scrap the article pertaining to security companies operating in Iraq that was issued by the CPA (Coalition Provision Authority) in 2004,” government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said in a statement.
“It has decided to present a new law regarding this issue which will be taken in the next cabinet meeting.”
Expect a massive controversy to follow. What will the State Department do if Iraqi judges issue arrest warrants for American contractors? Will heavily-armed contractors submit to Iraqi warrants, or will they openly defy the law of an allegedly sovereign country? More to come.
If folks refresh their browsers, it is now a metal plated era.
So, is there evidence the fires (some, all?) were started by an arsonist?
Slothrop @ 56
If we fail to profit from rotten deals, then we are not Bush family members or cronies.
Old Coastie if you can get MSNBC they are currently reporting the FBI executed a warrant as part of an arson investigation - may be what you’re witnesssing with the flyovers. And now poor stranded Llamas being rescued from the fire lines.
Kathleen @ 57
Democracy’s a bitch, eh Shrub and Company?
How did we get fooled by this joker in 2004?
Who you calling “we”, white man?
RBG @ 58
So Joe is building a gilded cage?
bonkers @ 62
Ace Sec’y of State Condi’s gonna make it all ok for her little PReznit, right?
Lieberman sitting on the board of the Nixon Center. Hillary at one time sitting on the WalMart board. And both these guys with deep roots into the DLC. Sounds very Democratic.
mc @ 59
Read this morning that police had shot and killed an arsonist.
Hidden in the emergency supplement war appropriations, is budgeting to equip bombers with the ability to carry bunker busters…this must be addressed and some sunlight shone on it. JMHO:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...../15152/340
Wonder if Israel and the US have ever thought about agreeing to a “we will not strike first agreement” with Iran?
With what has taken place in Iraq, Lebanon and Syria If I lived in Iran I would be concerned about Israel and the US invading.
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iow.....liran.html
By Leslie Susser Published: 10/23/2007
JERUSALEM (JTA) – In a major policy change, Israel has launched a high-profile diplomatic initiative to thwart Iran’s nuclear ambitions following President Bush’s warning that a nuclear Iran could produce World War III.
Over the last several days, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert embarked on
whirlwind trips to Russia, France and Britain. Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni went to China.
Together with the United States, these countries comprise the permanent members of the U.N. Security Council. Israel’s goal is to persuade them of the pressing need to tighten U.N.-mandated sanctions against Iran and convince Iranian leaders to abandon their nuclear program.
newspaperbrat @ 61
Any Dalai Lamas?
Twain @ 67
Linky?
dakine01 @ 71
Sorry - can’t remember where I saw it. There wasn’t much info except that the guy tried to get away and was trying to ram police cars.
Twain @ 67
Arson is a very sick and abominable crime. It is terrorist in nature.
Kathleen @ 69
If Israel attacks Iran… Lebanon and Syria will attack Israel. IMHO.
Very, very OT, but I would like to share this beautiful speech, an antidote to the tawdry, mendacious, hateful mess we are looking around at today. Yesterday, Sahar Issa received one of the International Women Journalists’ “Courage in Journalism” awards, on behalf of six Iraqi women journalists. Of them, only Issa remains at the McClatchy Baghdad bureau. (I believe all the others have left the country.)
Here is her speech.
Peace.
Just think:
If in 2000 SCOTUS had ruled in favor of Gore in Gore v Bush, Joe-Lie might be our VPOTUS now. I said might because Maybe Gore-Lieberman might have lost in 2004. Or maybe Gore might have dropped Lieberman in 2004.
Biodun @ 76
But pre-Bush, VP was a generally benign position. It had not yet been Cheneyed-up the way it has been. I would much prefer him as VP under the old rules, than Senator now.
OldCoastie, perhaps a sign on your roof in anticipation of King George’s flyby tomorrow.
Twain @ 72
Google is our friend.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.co.....d-ars.html
#43, 45
I have one in mind, but the Lurking Mods would not appreciate it if I put it in. Let’s just say that it would be permanent.
Laura Doty @ 75
Laura, thank you…
Laura @ 75
I saw yesterday that Christiane Amanpour will have CBE attached to her name.
Badwater @ 53
What, you mean he loses money and is rescued by his Daddy’s friends named bin Laden?
JF @ 77
You don’t remember Spiro?
By “We” I mean Dems in general. I didn’t know that much about Lie-berman at the time, and tho didn’t like him, thought he might be OK sitting in the then “nothing-position” of vice president.
(Dolly llamas?)
raven @ 84
Other than his hateful speechifying though, he pretty much did the “go to overseas funerals” bit. He was brought down for corrupt actions while the governor of MD IIRC.
scribe, may I ask a question about legal fees in “closing” an estate?
Laura Doty @ 75
THIS is courage and humanity. Thank you Laura.
Rumor has it that your(proto) book ‘Cirle of Care’ might be in its early stages. Should like to see that be reality. Much appreciation, on many fronts.
raven @ 84
No, I’m 32, but I’m guessing his behavior, like Cheney’s, was allowed/encouraged by Nixon. I have a really hard time believing Gore would have allowed that kind of power concentration in the VP’s hands (or the President’s, for that matter).
David W. Bartoo @ 88
Rumor has it, eh? I think rumors are far more accurate about Hugh’s opus than anything of mine!
Laura Doty @ 90
Hugh’s writing about Opus and Bill?
peanutbutter @ 43
Rage is understood. Having been in many prisons, jails, death rows, etc., it’s my feeling that being incarcerated - seeing the sun come up every day - but not being able to rejoice in it - that knowing that the world is continuing, and that you’ll never again be a part of it - and the continuing degradation of being treated as if an animal gone wrong - those punishments are worse than a quick execution…
I throw this out as a defense guy - and I’m not at all convinced that a quick execution would not be a more kind and civil way to deal with the most heinous of offenders…
But there remains the fact that so many convicted defendants, through the use of DNA evidence, have been found to be utterly innocent, albeit decades later.
We are fallible - we are occasionally wrong - and we are, most certainly, not God.
I’ll go to my grave screaming that no human being has the right to sentence another human being to death.
“Heck-of-a Job”….Redux..
link
‘Slumlord Joe‘, eh?
Cue Nelson Muntz.
;>)
jayt @ 92
DingDingdingDing
JF @ 89
No, Nixon was actually President when he held office. Bush is more like Agnew these days.
I don’t want to kill the arsonist but I would be first in line with the tar and feathers and would like to see him put up in public stocks and have people hurl all their grief at him…
but I’m pretty pissed.
Badwater @ 96
Except for the whole resignig in shame thing.
JF @ 89
Encouraged? It was required.
JF @ 98
Yes, both Agnew and Nixon were more honorable than Bush, and Cheney for that matter. At least they resigned. However, that may be because Democrats of that era actually did something and forced them to resign.
OldCoastie @ 97
CNN just reported that the FBI is assisting OC in the search for a possible arsonist. They said one of the fires looks like arson. LATimes mentioned the Rice fire. Is this what you are hearing?
New nasa imagry.
“Red Cross volunteers from every major city in the Northwest are leapfrogging the small convoy of local fire trucks headed to Southern California.” reports local public radio.
I’m sure none of these volunteers like Al Gore or are members of the Sierra Club or vote Democratic.
they are certain the OC fire (Santiago Fire) was the work of an arsonist. No arrests so far.
dakine01 @ 71
Here is an LA Times article: Link
CNN coming up photo of Cheney. Wolf asks, is he sleeping on the job?
Cheney seems to nod off a lot in public.
Darkblack — I was thinking something more along the lines of Mr. Roper from Three’s Company… *G*
smapdi @ 102
Wow. The fires look worse. MSM is painting kind of a rosey picture.
Is downtown San Diego in any danger?
For my old and dear friends in So. Cal. Remember when we used to drink straight shots and ‘limon’ and salt in college? If you need a place to stay, here is where the heart is. I’ll be come back there if you need me to. kiddo.
ironranger @ 105
Do you know how much tryptophan is contained in one unbaptized infant?
smapdi@109:
I can’t breathe laughing.
This goes with my #108.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KHf13IUzxg
Badwater @ 100
Sorry, I disagree. They resigned because it was the easiest way out.
smapdi @ 102
Is anyone bringing boxes of Ignite! Learning software? That was key to New Orlean’s recovery thaks to Barbara Bush’s earmark donation.
OldCoastie @ 103
How convenient if the angry lone nut is from T**hran.
Laura Doty @ 90
I confess to encouraging Hugh, as have many of us. However, the ‘rumor’ seems like a good idea to me, I mean that seriously, please take my thoughts about this as genuinely reflective of my appreciation for your abilities with helping people become more aware and more capable of embracing their own and others humanity. I have not suggested this to either pressure you or embarrass your genuine humility.
You are often able to fashion fleeting sensibility into accessible language in a fashion I both admire and, truth be told, envy.
I merely wish to say that you appear to possess an intuitive capacity to grasp in totality things which the collective psyche has not fully formulated.
Badwater @ 100
But, it was Republicans that had finally had enough and told Nixon to resign. Where are today’s honorable Republicans?
Out here in LA, where the sky is brown and the sun is red even far from the fires, Lieberman makes me burn. I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again:
My contempt for Joe Lieberman is infinite and eternal.
New Thread.
JF @ 116
They’ve been run out of the party by the evangelicals and the Bush family.
mc @ 59
The OC Santiago fire has been announced as the work of an arsonist. At least some of the LA fires are known cause (not arson), but I do not know about all of them.
Twain @ 67
Has not been reported in O.C. Perhaps elsewhere. I’d check for a link.
Diane @ 78
I wanna put up a giant middle finger.
OldCoastie @ 97
Let’s just say if this arsonist was somehow in the path of his own fire, I wouldn’t expend a whole lot of energy in trying to do something about it. Otherwise I’m fully in agreement with the arguments for incarcerating someone w/o parole, etc. Feh.
Yes, Spiro was Nixon’s attack dog, and barked and heeled on command. i think this unitary executive bs started under Nixon.
pretzel @ 121
Sho nuff did.
To the people wanting further comments on the Lieberman T&E matter:
1. re the possibility of suing - (a) anything’s possible. Remember, T&E is totally, intimately dependent upon what the documents in the individual case say. The whole disposition of a case, or estate, can turn on one word, or even the placement of one comma. Moreover, these documents start off from standard forms but are almost always custom-drafted in whole or in part. As a result, only the most general principles are really suitable for discussion, and each case is sui generis.
2. As to fees, etc., re an Estate or Trust - see #1 immediately above. Be aware that, while trustees and executors are generally entitled to some commission for their services, the means by which these are calculated, the way they are awarded, the rationale, and just about everything else depends on quirky state laws which are, to the best of my knowledge, different in every state. Again, sui generis.
JF @ 116
Honorable my dying ass, it was in their interest, that’s the only raeson.
Miscellaneous stuff:
The arsonist they caught, as well as the one shot by police, was in San Bernardino county.
The Santiago fire they’re pretty sure was arson: three ignition points. Others - well, the Magic fire was a construction crew (accidental), and others were downed power lines; some there’s no report yet on cause.
The winds are dying down, but the wind changes can make it look worse than it is. They actually are making headway, but they’ll probably let the stuff that’s heading into difficult terrain burn. It’s cheaper than trying to replace firefighters.
P J Evans @ 125
Hmmmm…I don’t like the sound of that.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 106
I see, Redd.
ahem
“Joe-EEE!”
;>)
raven @ 124
Yes, there was nothing honorable in the leave-taking of either. As to the Republicans generally, not a great deal. They dragged it out in Nixon’s case and in Agnew’s they enjoyed his vicious behavior far too much.
Agnew was a true piece of ‘work’.
Hugh @115
Thank you, truly, for those kind words. I will take what you’ve said deep into my heart.
Re: Lieberman. Conflict of interest, presumably undeclared and actively pursued. That makes him a crook in my book.
Gasp. This last part is meant to be a conciliatory gesture thrown in HoJoe’s way, perhaps? HoJoe is a rich man, especially for someone who’s spent his life in “public service.” Screw them for carrying that stupid campaign hatchet on Ned.