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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
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		<dc:creator>amberglow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Illusion-Untold-Story-Giuliani/dp/0060536608&quot;&gt;Wayne Barrett&lt;/a&gt;, a reporter there for ages, wrote 2 books about him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Illusion-Untold-Story-Giuliani/dp/0060536608">Wayne Barrett</a>, a reporter there for ages, wrote 2 books about him.</p>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
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		<dc:creator>amberglow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;yup–he was always good to them, and they have a shiny new tower in Times Square to show for it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hillary too gets much better coverage than she should, given that she’s done nothing for us as Senator.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Village Voice overall had always been the best on clear-eyed coverage of Rudy and all his misdeeds. I’m disappointed but not surprised that most of it is still unreported nationally.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yup–he was always good to them, and they have a shiny new tower in Times Square to show for it.</p>
<p>Hillary too gets much better coverage than she should, given that she’s done nothing for us as Senator.</p>
<p>The Village Voice overall had always been the best on clear-eyed coverage of Rudy and all his misdeeds. I’m disappointed but not surprised that most of it is still unreported nationally.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What get’s stuck in my craw is how the MSM takes these surveys at utter face value. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From dreck like this you’d think that Romney has suddenly won the hearts of the evangelical and Conservative Christian fundamentalist voter. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21391400/&quot;&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21391400/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The “Value Voters” convention allowed people on-line to submit votes as well as those who attended the convention. Thousands more on-line votes were recorded, swamping the count.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Huckabee got over 50% (488) of the votes of those &lt;b&gt;in attendance&lt;/b&gt;. Romney got about 10% (99 votes)…with most of the others sucking it up in the single digits. That’s what my family would call a knock-down ass-whuppin’ in East Texas parts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  But in the INTERNET voting both Romney and Ron Paul received massive levels of support. Paul received only 25 votes (2.6%) of those at the convention but 840 on the internet to finish with 15% of the final vote in third, rather than last, place. Romney’s internet support actually bolstered his results to allow him to attain first place with about 25% of the total…30 total votes ahead of Huckabee.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes folks! Both Romney and Ron Paul are trying to “suggest” support from the Conservative Christian voters that simply isn’t there, at least amongst the most driven of these. The campaigns of both of these individuals ahve made a great effort to organize their supporters to flood such straw-polls and on-line surveys to “suggest” they have wider support than ther polls have indicated. It’s even possible that ony a handful of individuals directly associated with the campaigns are behind hundreds of on-line votes. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.frcaction.org/&quot;&gt;http://www.frcaction.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So why would the internet vote be so disparate from those actually in attendance? Well the Conservative evangelical community is up in arms over the Family Resource Council’s vote. The word is the “fix was in” with the leadership of the FRC who ran the “Values Voter” conference compromising with “Big Money” and “Defense” Conservatives to avoid a Huckabee endorsement. Huckabee is viewed by the Business Conservatives as a little too willing to support tax-funded programs that actually assist the poor. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/whats_the_huckabee_problem_1.php&quot;&gt;http://marcambinder.theatlanti.....blem_1.php&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rightwingwatch.org/2007/10/contested_vote.html&quot;&gt;http://www.rightwingwatch.org/....._vote.html&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Romney, despite his Mormon background, is viewed by the evangelical leadership as the one that they can make most progress with in attaining their agenda.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But the scandal about the vote, and how it distorted the actual feelings of the Christian Conservative movement is now all over their websites. If Romney was thinking that he could use this poll to actually lure the religious right into thinking that their fellow cnservatives were “swinging” to Romney…well the blush is off the rose. In fact, his efforts may actually backfire as they will view him as manipulative and willing to “use” them to make it appear he has their support.  And the fact that the leadership of the FRC and others were willing to conceal this fiasco for Romneys benefit may dampen their ability to mobilize their supporters behind either Romney or Giuliani in the General election.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/253694.aspx&quot;&gt;http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/253694.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/10/poll_whos_the_conservative_gop.php&quot;&gt;http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007.....ve_gop.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So when you see an on-line survey or poll, like Zogby’s on-line survey, be careful about accepting their results without putting your tongue firmly in your cheek. The methodology, even when they only allow on-line registrants to partciipate, can be “gimmicked” by people with access to the databases of campaigns (using the real names/addresses but false internet addresses of their supporters). Survey groups like Zogby’s are likely inundated with registrants with multiple handles affiliated with the campaigns…particularly so when the entire purpose of the site is to compile on-line data about political races or issues.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What get’s stuck in my craw is how the MSM takes these surveys at utter face value. </p>
<p>From dreck like this you’d think that Romney has suddenly won the hearts of the evangelical and Conservative Christian fundamentalist voter. <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21391400/">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21391400/</a></p>
<p>The “Value Voters” convention allowed people on-line to submit votes as well as those who attended the convention. Thousands more on-line votes were recorded, swamping the count.</p>
<p>Huckabee got over 50% (488) of the votes of those <b>in attendance</b>. Romney got about 10% (99 votes)…with most of the others sucking it up in the single digits. That’s what my family would call a knock-down ass-whuppin’ in East Texas parts.</p>
<p>  But in the INTERNET voting both Romney and Ron Paul received massive levels of support. Paul received only 25 votes (2.6%) of those at the convention but 840 on the internet to finish with 15% of the final vote in third, rather than last, place. Romney’s internet support actually bolstered his results to allow him to attain first place with about 25% of the total…30 total votes ahead of Huckabee.</p>
<p>Yes folks! Both Romney and Ron Paul are trying to “suggest” support from the Conservative Christian voters that simply isn’t there, at least amongst the most driven of these. The campaigns of both of these individuals ahve made a great effort to organize their supporters to flood such straw-polls and on-line surveys to “suggest” they have wider support than ther polls have indicated. It’s even possible that ony a handful of individuals directly associated with the campaigns are behind hundreds of on-line votes. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.frcaction.org/">http://www.frcaction.org/</a></p>
<p>So why would the internet vote be so disparate from those actually in attendance? Well the Conservative evangelical community is up in arms over the Family Resource Council’s vote. The word is the “fix was in” with the leadership of the FRC who ran the “Values Voter” conference compromising with “Big Money” and “Defense” Conservatives to avoid a Huckabee endorsement. Huckabee is viewed by the Business Conservatives as a little too willing to support tax-funded programs that actually assist the poor. </p>
<p> <a href="http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/whats_the_huckabee_problem_1.php">http://marcambinder.theatlanti&#8230;..blem_1.php</a> </p>
<p> <a href="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/2007/10/contested_vote.html">http://www.rightwingwatch.org/&#8230;.._vote.html</a> </p>
<p>Romney, despite his Mormon background, is viewed by the evangelical leadership as the one that they can make most progress with in attaining their agenda.</p>
<p>But the scandal about the vote, and how it distorted the actual feelings of the Christian Conservative movement is now all over their websites. If Romney was thinking that he could use this poll to actually lure the religious right into thinking that their fellow cnservatives were “swinging” to Romney…well the blush is off the rose. In fact, his efforts may actually backfire as they will view him as manipulative and willing to “use” them to make it appear he has their support.  And the fact that the leadership of the FRC and others were willing to conceal this fiasco for Romneys benefit may dampen their ability to mobilize their supporters behind either Romney or Giuliani in the General election.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/253694.aspx">http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/253694.aspx</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/10/poll_whos_the_conservative_gop.php">http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007&#8230;..ve_gop.php</a></p>
<p>So when you see an on-line survey or poll, like Zogby’s on-line survey, be careful about accepting their results without putting your tongue firmly in your cheek. The methodology, even when they only allow on-line registrants to partciipate, can be “gimmicked” by people with access to the databases of campaigns (using the real names/addresses but false internet addresses of their supporters). Survey groups like Zogby’s are likely inundated with registrants with multiple handles affiliated with the campaigns…particularly so when the entire purpose of the site is to compile on-line data about political races or issues.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/23/official-candidate-of-the-new-york-times/#comment-1054019</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt; Matt	 says:  October 23rd, 2007 at 7:42 pm&lt;br /&gt;
Blub @ 206&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so what did Glen Beck say about my city?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Beck said: “I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today.” &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I guess Beck will simply justify his position by saying that he didn’t mean all those folks who lost their homes in the fires were “America Haters”…but the implication of THAT would be in order for a handful of those “Haters” to suffer it’s justified that hundreds of thousands of others be threatened.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But how is that so different from Bush’s Iraq policies where it’s perfectly justified to kill whole families of innocents in order to get a handful of “criminals”. Oh right…it’s the terrorists fault…not ours for actually pouring uncountainable firepower into those houses.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> Matt	 says:  October 23rd, 2007 at 7:42 pm<br />
Blub @ 206</em>
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<p>so what did Glen Beck say about my city?</p>
<p>Beck said: “I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today.” </p>
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<p>And I guess Beck will simply justify his position by saying that he didn’t mean all those folks who lost their homes in the fires were “America Haters”…but the implication of THAT would be in order for a handful of those “Haters” to suffer it’s justified that hundreds of thousands of others be threatened.</p>
<p>But how is that so different from Bush’s Iraq policies where it’s perfectly justified to kill whole families of innocents in order to get a handful of “criminals”. Oh right…it’s the terrorists fault…not ours for actually pouring uncountainable firepower into those houses.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1053738&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;amberglow @ 305&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0447,moses,58652,5.html&quot;&gt;The Times’ Sweetheart Deal&lt;/a&gt;–&lt;i&gt;… the Times deal, which was inked in the last month of the Giuliani administration. …&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very interesting…  I just updated the post with that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1053738"><em>amberglow @ 305</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0447,moses,58652,5.html">The Times’ Sweetheart Deal</a>–<i>… the Times deal, which was inked in the last month of the Giuliani administration. …</i></p>
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<p>Very interesting…  I just updated the post with that.</p>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
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		<dc:creator>amberglow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0447,moses,58652,5.html&quot;&gt;The Times’ Sweetheart Deal&lt;/a&gt;–&lt;i&gt;… the Times deal, which was inked in the last month of the Giuliani administration. …&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0447,moses,58652,5.html">The Times’ Sweetheart Deal</a>–<i>… the Times deal, which was inked in the last month of the Giuliani administration. …</i></p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/23/official-candidate-of-the-new-york-times/#comment-1053661</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1053391&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SnarKassandra @ 232&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;My mom liked listening to their songs.  I remember from when I was little.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;California Dreamin’ is a great classic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>My mom liked listening to their songs.  I remember from when I was little.</p>
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<p>California Dreamin’ is a great classic.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1053320&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 165&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;And of course the President has decided it’s in the best interests of the country for him to travel to So. Cal. and do a photo-opp.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe it’s God’s way of warning him what his future in Hell would be like if he doesn’t change his ways.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1053320"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 165</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>And of course the President has decided it’s in the best interests of the country for him to travel to So. Cal. and do a photo-opp.</p>
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<p>Maybe it’s God’s way of warning him what his future in Hell would be like if he doesn’t change his ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1053499&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tanbark @ 300&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Eli:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“It would be just like a Subway Series, but with warmongers.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hammer-nail-bang! :o)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;TB grins biiiig grin.  :o)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hee.  Thanks, TB.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1053499"><em>Tanbark @ 300</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Eli:</p>
<p>“It would be just like a Subway Series, but with warmongers.”</p>
<p>Hammer-nail-bang! :o)</p>
<p>TB grins biiiig grin.  :o)</p>
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<p>Hee.  Thanks, TB.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Uhh..fern…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I did not assert that that one year’s higher than usual winds is &lt;em&gt;evidence&lt;/em&gt; of anything, I’ll leave you with that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Twasn’t my conclusion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I did (and do) assert the increased intensity of this year’s Santa Anas is the &lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;result&lt;/b&gt; of &lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;increased heat energy&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am accurately describing increased thermal energy over the Western US.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From what I have read, the greater the heat energy over the Western US, the greater the persistence/intensity of the high pressure shield over the Great Basin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If this assertion is inaccurate, I am in error.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Blub, if the mechanism I’m descrbing (increased US interior pressure is the energy source driving the intensity of Santa Ana winds) is in arror, I’d be grateful for correction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m genuinely curious to know what calculations of Santa Ana intensity explain the increased energy of this year’s winds.  The increased velocities appear to reflect significantly increased pressure differential (interior vs. coast).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If we subtract increased thermal energy from global warming, what source of planetary energy would replace that input?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m asking these questions to better understand (and juggling cooking) so apologies if my tone seems abrupt - not intended.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’sd appreciate the chance to learn from you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhh..fern…</p>
<p>As I did not assert that that one year’s higher than usual winds is <em>evidence</em> of anything, I’ll leave you with that.</p>
<p>Twasn’t my conclusion.</p>
<p>I did (and do) assert the increased intensity of this year’s Santa Anas is the <em><b>result</b> of </em><em>increased heat energy</em>.</p>
<p>I am accurately describing increased thermal energy over the Western US.</p>
<p>From what I have read, the greater the heat energy over the Western US, the greater the persistence/intensity of the high pressure shield over the Great Basin.</p>
<p>If this assertion is inaccurate, I am in error.</p>
<p>Blub, if the mechanism I’m descrbing (increased US interior pressure is the energy source driving the intensity of Santa Ana winds) is in arror, I’d be grateful for correction.</p>
<p>I’m genuinely curious to know what calculations of Santa Ana intensity explain the increased energy of this year’s winds.  The increased velocities appear to reflect significantly increased pressure differential (interior vs. coast).</p>
<p>If we subtract increased thermal energy from global warming, what source of planetary energy would replace that input?</p>
<p>I’m asking these questions to better understand (and juggling cooking) so apologies if my tone seems abrupt &#8211; not intended.</p>
<p>I’sd appreciate the chance to learn from you.</p>
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