There is only one reason why Glenn Beck will never go away.
Beck is the lowest rated cable news talker. Tucker Carlson is the second lowest. Given Tucker’s family connections to the Office of the Vice President, I believe that it’s fairly safe to say that Jesus will lose his job before Tucker Carlson will.
Glenn Beck is being kept there simply so that wee Tucker won’t have to come in last.
I wonder if he knows.
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I like FireDog Lake. Thanks TRex.
Yeek… brain bleach…. quick…
He’s the bad penny.
Every time my husband puts Tucker on, I keep calling him the “Little Pr**k, and would you please change the channel” … dear?
The clueless will remain the clueless. They’ve proven that.
Heh.
He’s not even good enough to be a bad penny, laura
Hi again TRex.
I hate that infernal wheel…
Suzanne @ 8
I like your story Suzanne. And I’m going to be talking about lucys and by-gods forevermore.
*waving to spidey*
Burn, Beck, Burn…!!!
CTuttle @ 10
Moi, aussie.
CTuttle @ 13
metaphorically, correct CT?
I hadn’t thought of that, TRex. He knows it. To the Goebbelsesque heart of his inner being.
Just don’t take the kids and the ol’ lady with ya, Glenn….
…just a driveby but kiss something you thought you loved goodbye…it’s bye bye time across the universe
Suzanne @ 15
But, of course, Ma Cheri! I wouldn’t advocate violence, would I…???? *g*
Laura Doty @ 4
no, he’s the dirty round piece of metal in the gutter, yanno, you reach down saying “ooo a quarter!” and then you say, “ooo yuck! a dirty foil condom cover!”
Palo Verdi Nuclear Power plan is now requiring their employees training in HONESTY as it is under federal investigation….
PV is the largest Nuclear Powerpant in the US
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 19
I will NEVER bend down to pick up a quarter again!
spiderpaws @ 17
wanna explain? is that an analogy or a warning? planetary or cosmic?
spiderpaws @ 17
scary, isn’t it?
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 19
Oh my gosh you make me cry with laughter — you must be Irish? Like me?
I don’t know, CT, hard to tell from all the punctuation abuse in your comment….
Following Mother Beck’s 11 hours of grinding, painful labor…Glenn was the part that was supposed to buried in the field as fertilizer.
What an asshole.
Suzanne @ 25
Par for the course…??? ;-)
Christine Edmonson @ 24
(blushes with pleasure) no, pure Scandahoovian here. Quiet folk to start, but get us on a roll … i used to laugh til i cried when my dad (swedish) would get going with his best friend (irish). You had to watch out for bruises from all the snark ricocheting around.
spiderpaws @ 17
Please don’t say that when I’m holding my kitty.
I dunno, ct, but do you have to triple every single punctuation mark on every single comment always?
kinda loses any impact that it would have otherwise been given is all i’m saying – and does lead to confusion in determining if snark or serious.
I noticed Digby, C&l, Huffpo, DU, Booman, etc… all were screaming for Beck’s head!!!
spiderpaws @ 17
spidey brings teh good cheer!
Glenn shouldn’t pick on himself…He might get a socially debilitating disease, like Mickey Kaus and Hoof-And-Mouth.
;>)
Not literally, CT and therein lies the difference between what is allowed and what is not.
Christine Edmonson @ 24
forgot to add, i’m not even close to being the funny one in the family.
My baby sis has gotten ovations at Big Deal Talks she’s given at national conferences (in an obscure field, not a big name you nosy pups)
Suzanne @ 34
*peace* *g*
I caught a case of Mickey Kaus once. It was awful. It took months and months to go away and the drugs they give you to kill it are almost worse than the disease.
darkblack @ 33
or Bill-d’oh with Loofah Oaf Displease
Checking various sources….world’s still a mess but not anything that’s needs last hugs (so far as I could stick neck out window). On other hand, per Reuters: a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon, you’re talking about real money.
TRex @ 37
Isn’t it though? Damn toilet seats.
;>)
TRex @ 37
They have an easier rhyming cure these days.
darkblack @ 40
shudda listened to your mother about those toilet seats
darkblack @ 33
Bwahahahah! Does scapies affect goats as well as sheep? Would explain the madness in the herd.
Are there treatments for Head in Arse Disease, or is it incurable?
katymine @ 20
I just hope Gonzo isn’t in charge of defining what “honesty” is.
Bob in HI
CTuttle @ 36
Take it from one who knows…it’s not smart to mess with Suzanne.
punaise @ 38
Too much autofelafellatio
;>)
Children Detach From Natural World As They Explore The Virtual One
http://texbetsy.headonradionet…..y-outside/
by Peter Fimrite
Yosemite may be nice and all, but Tommy Nguyen of San Francisco would much prefer spending his day in front of a new video game or strolling around the mall with his buddies.1022 03
What, after all, is a 15-year-old supposed to do in what John Muir called “the grandest of all special temples of nature” without cell phone service?
“I’d rather be at the mall because you can enjoy yourself walking around looking at stuff as opposed to the woods,” Nguyen said from the comfort of the Westfield San Francisco Centre mall.
In Yosemite and other parks, he said, furrowing his brow to emphasize the absurdly lopsided comparison, “the only thing you look at is the trees, grass and sky.”
The notion of going on a hike, camping, fishing or backpacking is foreign to a growing number of young people in cities and suburbs around the nation, according to several polls and studies.
State and national parks, it seems, are good places for old folks to go, but the consensus among the younger set is that hiking boots aren’t cool. Besides, images of nature can be downloaded these days.
RBG @ 46
shit – i thought i had RBG convinced that i was a nice old lady.. fuck…he knows all about my being in touch with my inner bitch
dayam
TRex @ 37
Tsk. You should try the Utah Phillips social low-cholesterol diet, no fat-heads.
Conservatives Attack Gay Dumbledore; Claim Vindication For Jerry Falwell’s Homophobia
from Reality Based News Feed by Matt
falwelldumbledore.gifOn Friday, British author J.K. Rowling revealed for the first time that Albus Dumbledore, one of the central heroes in the record-breaking Harry Potter series, is in fact a gay man. Asked if Dumbledore, “who believed in the prevailing power of love,” had ever fallen “in love himself,” Rowling said that he once had with another male wizard.
While Rowling considers her novels to be a “prolonged argument for tolerance” and most fans were “thrilled with the announcement,” some conservative blogs are criticizing the revelation:
– Psycheout at Blogs 4 Brownback called it “revolting,” saying “Dumbledore is a gay homosexual who doesn’t deserve to live on G-d’s green earth.”
TRex @ 44
i think it is when said sufferer is Anal Retentive.
Every Member of All-Republican NJ Town Council to Switch Party Affiliation
from Reality Based News Feed by Brad Friedman
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5191
Sign of the times?…
In a rare shift in party affiliation, the entire membership of the all-Republican governing body in Lyndhurst will switch from Republican to Democrat tomorrow. Nearly 60% of Lyndhurst’s Republican County Committee will become Democrats too.
The party realignment, first reported in PoliticsNJ.com last summer, is far greater in scope than speculated. It represents, perhaps, the most massive shift in Party affiliation of elected and Party officials in a single community in one day. “It’s safe to say something like this certainly doesn’t happen in politics everyday,” said Lyndhurst Mayor Richard DiLascio.
Lyndhurst has long been considered a swing town in general elections over the last twenty years.
RBG @ 46
Yes Sir! The worst I’ve advocated was pitchforks and torches, occasionally the chamber pots, too!
[RBG Note; edited to reflect Suzanne’s earlier request.]
TexBetsy @ 51
ERm. Has anyone broken it to these people that none of the Potter characters actually exist?
TexBetsy @ 53
rats fleeing a sinking ship
Yes Sir!!! The worst I’ve advocated was pitchforks and torches, occasionally the chamber pots, too!!!
CT, you tripled again. I would strongly suggest you try to avoid doing that.
Suzanne @ 57
Yes, Ma’am!
peanutbutter @ 55
It just cracks me up that these people get so wacked out with their panties in a wad over fictional characters….. Or cartoons Or costume characters……
Senators Say White House Cut Deal With Panel on FISA
from wa po politics by Ellen Nakashima
Senate Judiciary Committee members yesterday angrily accused the White House of allowing the Senate Intelligence Committee to review documents on its warrantless surveillance program in return for agreeing that telecommunications companies should get immunity from lawsuits.
katymine @ 59
It makes me laugh too….and then I marvel at how vast is their ability to hate.
Suzanne, do I need to swipe the rest of CT’s !!!?
Duck CT…. get that chamber pot to cover your head…. watch out for flying !!!
CTuttle @ 54
thanks RBG for editing this for me
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 52
Leading to a truly horrid disease – Ephemeral Antipolarectal Abridgement…Where the sufferer disappears up their own ass, rendering them invisibile yet not unheard.
;>)
Glenn’s goofy little comment distracts from the real problem – National guardsmen who could be used to help San Diego are off helping Iraq instead…
(banging head on desk) please, please, no more !!!
i’m gonna crack and not up
Cancer Cures @ 66
If CA is like other states, approx 50% of the guardsmen and 40% of the equipment (but more than half of the WORKING equipment) is overseas.
ack! having a geeky moment here (jumps out of chair & does little snoopy dance)
I finally made the 90th percentile in minnesota at wheresgeorge.com!
“Your State Rank in Minnesota is: 133 out of 2,948 [95.5]”
my kids roll their eyes, look at each other and say in unison, “pathetic.”
EPU’d from downstairs: http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..nt-1051316
pathetic? you are 133 out of 2,948
Suzanne @ 67
Suzanne, I think it is HIGH time for a dive, please?
darkblack @ 65
***
db: Love the phrase, “Invisible yet not unheard.”
Reminds me of a friend who once described a troublesome colleague as “Forgotten, but not gone.”
According to local news…..
Just why is Arnold getting THREE C130’s and bunches of helicopters and ALL of Arizona’s firefighters and ALL our Red Cross people
AND no one could send stuff to Kansas months ago?
I will dive if ya’ll promise not to !!! anymore
This one is news:
U.S. cannot account for billion-dollar Iraq contract (Reuters)
from Yahoo! News
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/topstories/
*http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071023/pl_nm/iraq_usa_dyncorp_dc
Reuters – The State Department does not know specifically what it received for a billion-dollar contract with security firm DynCorp International to provide training services for Iraqi police, a U.S. watchdog agency said on Tuesday.
darkblack @ 65
Rightwing bloggers! by their smell ye shall know them.
Suzanne @ 75
I didn’t
TexBetsy @ 60
Scottish Haggis and Leahy are none too pleased, and, it repudiates the WH’s executive privledge claims! This is going to prove to be a crucial turning point, as SJC has subpoenaed those records already, and, that BS significantly degraded the pixie dust’s strength!
Ah OH … Betsy broke FDL comments
Dear Mod,
Please fix my link.
Thank you so much!
katymine @ 77
The margins don’t break any more. Thank Goodness!
fixed, refresh and the margins are safe again
Suzanne @ 75
That might be worth it! *g*
Suzanne @ 67
ah! time for some music!
Thanks suzanne, but it should link to THIS. I need to get over the lazy stuff.
Suzanne…. do we need to get the Hot Tub fired up and ready for a dip?
CT are you still here?
CD @ 73
It’s the silent ones you have to look out for.
;>)
TexBetsy @ 60
Well, fuck! You review what they’ve done to determine whether or not they deserve immunity. Why read the documents after the immunity has been given?? Only a scholar or some other form of masochist would read that shit once it had become moot.
*boing* flying forward one-and-a-half somersaults, pike position, no splash (except that which lands on those who triple punctuate)
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 50
I love U. Utah Phillips!
* wonders what exactly constitutes triple punctuating… *
via Kevin Drum
Suzanne @ 86
You splashed a sleeping child? She’s just high energy. Really.
TexBetsy @ 76
“A billion here, a billion there … and pretty soon you’re talking real money.”
Suzanne @ 71
out of 2,948 nerds in minnesota entering all their paper money serial #’s into a national data base, i am nerd #133! (btw, Petro, there’s also a whereswilly.
or a blogger wigwam.
Suzanne @ 86
I promise not to hyphen. Love you Suzanne.
katymine @ 87
I’m under heavy moderation, two comments already under sedation…
I, too, will put lid on exclamation points.
(sigh).
punaise @ 93
No fair!!
chrstine, then you should still be nice and dry
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok. got it out of my system. Done for the evening.
Really not fair…Tomorrow is my freedom day…
[do dots count?]
Suzanne @ 98
Yea! (only one ex. pt.)
The fire in my area appears to have been deliberately set.
I’m going to eject all of my !’s on that one!!!!!!! Hope they catch him, ARZGH!!!
…and now call it a night. Hope tomorrow’s winds die down! It’s not blowing too badly tonight, thankfully.
TRex @ 37
Not to mention how awful the goat feels.
g’nite PB. Breathe and sleep easy (both). Looking forward to Saturday (she exclaimed).
g’nite pb and stay safe
Which GOP Prez candidate received the most donations from military personnel?
Ron Paul
Coleen Rowley: What Did Pelosi Know, and When Did She Know It?
from Huff Po by Coleen Rowley
By Ray McGovern
Hope my re-posting of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) colleague Ray McGovern’s piece doesn’t confuse folks. Mr. McGovern doesn’t have a blog page on Huffington Post and is too busy to get one right now as he’s out speaking to folks. But his recent piece (which follows) not only relates to Arianna’s recent question to Nancy Pelosi as to whether she (Pelosi) is “too well behaved to get us out of Iraq” but also relates to efforts in Congress to reform the FISA. So I thought Mr. McGovern’s insights merit being re-posted.
What Did Pelosi Know, and When Did She Know It? by Ray McGovern
Will House Speaker Nancy Pelosi come clean now that it is clear that the National Security Agency (NSA) was turned loose on American citizens well before 9/11? She has admitted knowing for several years about the Bush administration’s eavesdropping on Americans without a court warrant. She was briefed on it when she was ranking Democrat the House Intelligence Committee when Bush and Cheney took office.
But was she told that within days of their taking office, the National Security Agency’s electronic vacuum cleaner had already begun to suck up information on Americans–criminal law and the Constitution be damned?
peanutbutter @ 106
Nite, PB! Good Luck! (oops)
[RBG Note; edited to correct your oops.]
sleep well PB. Best of luck with the fires.
peanutbutter @ 55
This Rowling person must be in the pay of the Dark Lord Cheney, providing this distraction on Plame Day.
Freedom day, katymine?
We’ve not heard from Loo Hoo, who (I think) lives in the San Diego area. Anyone have word?
New Ethics Rules? Lobbyists Say They Already Know How To Bypass Them
from Huff Po by The Huffington Post News Editors
Shhhh! Don’t tell anyone, but lobby groups are plotting all sorts of ways to get around the new ethics rules.
Lobbyists and their lawyers don’t want to talk publicly about these “workarounds,” a.k.a. clever cheating. But privately I’ve collected a few of the likely ways that lobbyists will continue to stay close to lawmakers while not outright breaking the law.
Most of these are still in the planning stages, so consider this an early heads-up.
The new statute bars lobbyists from taking lawmakers on trips. But lobby groups, particularly corporate lobbyists, are checking to see whether they can partner with colleges and nonprofit foundations to provide free travel to lawmakers despite the ban. The rules allow universities and charities greater latitude in providing the benefit.
when i was in high school i had an ghastly reputation as a Good Student. I had to try 10x as hard as anyone else to be disruptive, and i still got straight A’s in conduct. It was embarrassing. It was Traumatic.
Thank you, Lake, for helping me heal. I landed in moderation for a little while for a naughty song! (@ comment 85)
TeddySanFran @ 107
“How ya gonna keep ‘em down on the farm,
After they’ve seen Mickey?”
;>)
TeddySanFran @ 113
Nope, but exploited by them what are. JK revealed all Saturday.
Suzanne, begging a dispensation for a three-dot tendency, borrowed from good ole Herb Caen…
Does she worship at the same alter that Dark Lord Cheney does? db had a photo of cheney’s worshipping upthread
ndfg, welcome to the dark side.
Laura Doty @ 114
Surgeon’s orders…. NO driving for two weeks when I was discharged two weeks ago TODAY…
Yea….. cant use any more of these ! or will get hell from ! and I am so happy that I can drive !
darkblack @ 119
Aah, Gay Paree…! ;-)
loohoo is evacuated and staying with friends but has no internet access
*Fire update from LA*
Just went outside here in west LA – Marina del Rey area – and the SantaAna wind seems to have broken here, moist air incoming from not-too-far-away ocean.
I don’t know how far in the cool moisture goes, but this is a good sign.
wigwam @ 116
She’s evacuated and safe. Demi has some contact.
katymine @ 123
Hands clapping, hats cast up in air, whistles and cheers abounding.
(no exclamation points)
Margot @ 91
When I lived in Arizona, my band regularly did “Rock, Salt and Nails.” Utah, he knew how to work out his anger in a song. I think.
Bob in HI
link (tsf bold)
Normal process for winds to die down during the night…. the desert cools which slows the flow of hot dry air from the high desert in NV & AZ which supply the Santa Anna’s
Per Yahoo, 655 houses burned in S. CA and 100 businesses and other structures.
60,000 Turkish troops on border of Iraq.
many more sighs and no desire for exclamation points.
TexBetsy @ 111
I have a real problem with Nancy “eleven percent” Pelosi. Last night I suggested that she was hiding in the corner cringing in fear of being called “soft on terrorism.” Ray Duray corrected me, and I accept his correction, which boils down to: “Nancy is protecting her husband’s income and reputation at the country club.” That was exactly what Glenn Greenwald said of DiFi a few weeks ago.
The question of why Dem leaders cave is central to everything. I have hunches, but no real theories.
punaise @ 120
well, gonna have to put on my ol nit-picking Virgo hat here. A three-dot is, grammatically, an ellipsis and its use should be acceptable.
i think you are right, katymind, about the winds dying down at night and then starting back up when it starts to warm up again
peanutbutter @ 92
You did it at the end of your sentence.
Of course, there you mean an ellipsis, which in some circles counts as only one punctuation. But three exclamation points, or three question marks, is viewed in some circles as excessive reduplication.
Bob in HI HI HI
The concern is for the explanation point and not the herb caen ellipsis.
punaise @ 93
Can we circle all that apply?
Bob in HI
TexBetsy @ 122
tee hee! I can’t chew gum in class tho cuz i don’t like gum. Would crunching loudly on a life-saver be ok?
(several exclamation points)
;>)
Let me clarify what’s going on here.
The occasional use of extra punctuation to make a point is completely appropriate….and encouraged when it is done for that purpose.
Repeatedly using extraneous characters in every comment lessens the affect of its use and is a waste of bandwidth.
Gentle prodding over several days have not seemed to have the desired affect. Hence the heavy handed approach.
Exclaim away, but let’s think twice before doing so.
Thanks.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 136
be sure to loudly crinkle up the wrapper and toss it at someone
CTuttle @ 124
no, its teh Gay Goats!
Diet choices ‘written in genes’
Our food likes and dislikes may have more to do with genes than choice, UK researchers believe.
Experts from Kings College London compared the eating habits of thousands of pairs of twins.
Identical twins were far more likely to share the same dietary patterns – like a penchant for coffee and garlic – suggesting tastes may be inherited.
A health psychologist said this meant childhood food foibles might be harder to put right than previously thought.
Identical twins have exactly the same genetic make-up as each other, so scientists, by comparing them to non-identical twins, can work out the likelihood that their characteristics are due to “nature” or “nurture”.
The Kings College researchers looked at a total of more than 3,000 female twins aged between 18 and 79, working out their broad preferences using five different dietary “groups”.
These included diets heavy in fruit and vegetables, alcohol, fried meat and potatoes, and low-fat products or low in meat, fish and poultry.
TexBetsy @ 116
Universities and charities are allowed to give invited speakers “honorariums.” Who’s the IRS to tell Harvard what’s an appropriate honorarium for a distinguished speaker? Who’s to tell a donor that their money can’t be used for funding a distinguished-speaker series at Harvard, or even Bob Jones University?
Laura Doty @ 128
(jumps up and also starts clapping wildly)
Suzanne… our local weather guys are giving in depth stuff on the flow of the Santa Anna’s as our state is also on high wind warnings today.
TRex @ 44
Kind sir,
Your Stiltoned British pronunciation may give some offense to a handful of us over-degreed Yanks, therefore in the future I’d ask that you consider the use of the more American and clinical “Cranialrectalitis” to describe the meta-epidemic pervading the vast majority of homo sapiens sapiens, one of the most ironic monikers ever invented, if I do say so myself.
Cheerio Comrades!
PS: Sadly, yes, this syndrome unfortunately does appear to be incurable, as you suggest.
thanks, katymine
we have a milder version up here in the sf bay area going on – certainly nowhere as bad as they get down in the southland
bobschacht @ 136
(winks at Bob) shoulda known another Virgo would catch it!
RBG @ 142
Oh! Thank you. I missed the gentle prodding notes, so assumed it was just something that annoyed Suzanne, like fingernails on a blackboard or something. Will stay mindful.
darkblack @ 140
no, he’s explaining higher math.
TexBetsy @ 145
The only way this study is valid is if there’s a control group of twins separated at birth. Otherwise how do you separate nature from nurture?
(Having mentioned “separated at birth,” though, be prepared for a darkblack deluge)
Okay, so what is it; Quid pro quo, or, no Quid pro quo?
On Friday, White House press secretary Dana Perino said that Intelligence Committee Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.) and ranking member Christopher S. Bond (R-Mo.)’s staff “showed a willingness” to include immunity in their legislation. “Because they were willing to do that, we were willing to show them some of the documents that they asked to see.”
But an Intelligence Committee aide, speaking on condition of anonymity, said there was “no quid pro quo,” and that the immunity decision was based not on a determination of the program’s legality but on the members’ having previously reviewed written requests sent by the government to the carriers. “The documents we’d already received and carefully reviewed certainly led Rockefeller to the opinion that immunity was justified in this case,” said the aide. “But we felt it was an important principle to not allow the administration to deprive the committee of the full panoply of documents before they proceeded to markup.”
Quid pro quo! 8-(
laura, i try to keep my annoyances on the threads completely separate and away from my moderating. Not always successful but I do try.
OMG the weather girl on TWC is wearing a leopard spotted print top against the weather map…. the video guy must be having heart failure
Have you seen any of those s-@-b iden twin studies? Uncanny. Strange things, like twins having penchant for multiple rings, worn same fingers, same hands, same pattern. V. woo-woo.
CTuttle @ 155
Lying liars and the lying liars who lie for them.
TexBetsy @ 144
i think this is true, i’ve always been on the slender side, unfairly accused of anorexia when young, blah, blah. When asked “how do you stay so thin!”, for years my reply has been “it’s easy! I just chose the right parents this lifetime.”
teddy and tex, nova had a thing last week “the ghosts in our genes” talking about how the epi-genome is not identical in identical twins – how they start out identical but the epi-genome changes that over time so the switches that turn on and off the genes are different the older the twins get.
ndfg, i am almost exactly the same size and shape as my mother, aunt & grandmother each were at my age.
Suzanne @ 156
Oh, Suzanne. I honestly did not realize you were speaking as a mod, I thought it was more of a joke than anything. My Apologies. And my remarks sans excl. points were just being lighthearted. I hope they didn’t backfire as much as I am imagining at this moment. (sheepish grin here, with self-deprecating shoulder roll).
Suzanne @ 154
Is that why they don’t get the same diseases at the same time?
CTuttle @ 155
Right! What “quid” pro what “quo”? I don’t work because my employer pays me. I work because I so enjoy it, and I simply view my paycheck as a token of appreciation. Right!!!
Ray Duray @ 148
Laura Doty @ 163
I agree Laura…. I thought we were having fun… Me being dense..
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 165
oops. bedtime? i’m screwin’ up comments and i know better.
TexBetsy @ 162
Did they endure the same affliction as you?
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 151
He’s going to have wicked tracers too, with all that jazz handing.
TeddySanFran @ 152
‘Apre moi, mes ami‘
;>)
wigwam @ 165
You betcha! ;-)
Laura Doty @ 158
it is a very fine line i walk here – being the out to the public mod – is why i don’t comment much at the lake when not modding. i don’t want to confuse folks when i’m mod and when i’m not.
Laura Doty @ 157
astrology explains it. I love looking at twin charts. Separated at birth, no incentive to verge much from the default setting. Raised together, each uses free will more to push the parameters and thus develop uniqueness.
The Globalization of Hunger
from HORN News by NeoNinja
From The Seoul Times (S Korea): By Yifat Susskind Special Contribution At first, the numbers don’t seem to add up. The world produces more food than ever—enough to feed twice the global population. Yet, more people than ever suffer from hunger; and their numbers are rising. Today, 854 million people, most of them women and girls, are chronically […]
peanutbutter @ 55
So are gay homosexuals worse than the ordinary kind?
katymine @ 167
Laura Doty @ 163
Is that a forward or backward shoulder roll?
I’ve been told in certain cultures they mean completely different things. :< )</p>
Suzanne @ 170
I’ve noticed that. Tonight, I slipped and didn’t catch the cues. I’m sorry. I imagine my comments sounded rather snotty. Nothing could be further from my intent. But I sure was being thick.
Fern @ 166
WAY worse!
TexBetsy @ 162
almost ditto, My mom, myself & my youngest daughter very similar at same ages. My other daughter, my mom’s only sister, and my maternal grandmother very similar bodies at respective ages. Myself=board. My aunt=hourglass. Really seems to depend on how the genes mix.
My shoulder rolls tend to go just up and down….In the land I come from they mean, forgive me for being a dolt, please.
The confusion is partly my fault – I should have been clearer about what we were trying to accomplish instead of using humor to diffuse.
There is no need to apologize to me – I am apologizing to ya’ll for not being clearer that I was speaking from my MOD tower and not the little cottage by the creek in the redwoods.
TexBetsy @ 178
… or WAY better.
I am going to take my sorry butt to bed without any punctuation … can’t claimed “drugs” made me due it anymore
See ya tomorrow :)
RBG, this is Late, Late, we’re we’ve generally let our hair down, and, let it fly! 8-(
Fern @ 175
the morose ones are such a bummer.
Suzanne @ 179
I hadn’t seen any of the prior comments, so did miscue when you started beating your head. And, I plead complete and total ignorance about band width. A thing I always mean to google someday.
Ok…. lets have one big group hug {{{{{FDL}}}}} and put the issue away
(((FDL)))
(((pups)))
CTuttle @ 185
Y’know, you just don’t get to define the entire community’s mindset as aligned with yours. In case you hadn’t noticed lately, it’s more not.
katymine @ 184
G’nite, Katy!
katymine @ 184
{{{ katymine }}}}} Have a deep and healing sleep
***change of subject***
does the tribe losing to the redsox mean charlie sheen won’t be in the world series?
Too many {{{}}} and ((())) in those hugs!
Hey – there’s this guy to talk about…
Chris Dodd: Kickin’ Ass & Takin’ Names
night katymine
CTuttle @ 183
Here in CA the positive ions are doing a number on us all. I think they’re even entering through keyboards and out as an ionic virus in the blogosphere. Irritability, misprision and oopsies abounding tonight.
Now that I know we’re all friends and always have been, I’m going to bed. The beasties have been pleading for upstairs for 20 minutes, but I couldn’t leave ’til I knew things were set right.
G’nite dearies, especially you two, Suz and RBG.
g’nite katymine (and any other pups i may have missed)
g’nite laura
gee willikers, folks are going to bed early tonight – or is the night just flying by fast for me?
nite laura
nite katymine
TeddySanFran @ 190
True, Teddy, I appreciate the diversity here, I don’t impose my views, and, it is reciprocated(mostly)! (((FDL)))!!!
sleep well Laura.
ct you tripled again
Laura Doty @ 197
G’night! Gotta keep those beasties happy *g*
Nite, Laura!
good night all. not sure i’ll make it tomorrow night.
Suzanne @ 203
Habit?
g’nite ndfg
TexBetsy @ 206
Sleep well, Tex!
CTuttle @ 200
so i’ll just ride your ass about it until that habit is broken :)
pain free wishes tex
thanks for all the good wishes. wish me the best on my MRI tomorrow afternoon.
Suzanne @ 210
Cuff Me?
CTuttle @ 206
nope – and it will never happen as long as you triple (how is that for motivation)
Tex, hugs for tomorrow.
Well, I shall bid another fond adieu to the Lake! Aloha Oe!
Suzanne @ 214
Oops! Bonne Nuit, Ma Cheri!
g’nite ct
newtonusr @ 128
Great!!!
this Virgo is getting tired, and Virgo-like, is worried about what faux pas she may have committed tonight during her earlier rambunctiousness. Although i will primly add that i do not put my hoof in mouth as i am not a goat. Foot, occasionally.
Sheesh. Trying for a B in conduct is so, so … nerve-wracking.
snarking aside, the humor and care here are so restorative. Even when tempers seem a little frayed, folks try to get along. And once again a big thanks to Suze and the other mods (TLM, RBG, and others) for keeping this place troll-free (takes deep breath of clean, fresh air).
The bed-cats are demanding my presence, so i’ll bid you all a fond good night.
g’nite ndfg and no problem at all
hoping for cool wet weather in the Southland, I am trundling off to bed. g’nite, pups, and remember: TRex discovered the purpose of Glenn Beck tonite!
wigwam @ 212
Absofuckinglutely!!!
g’nite teddy
I don’t usually put a quarter in the jukebox, but tonight warrants a bit of sugar. Just for the joy of it.
My current earworm
Crystal Kay. The song is an ending theme for an anime that centers around two friends, their love of music and a growing love of each other. (Pure shoujou but it’s great). The thing about the singer? Her voice is so hiphop/r&b but the sweetness is pure japan, a tone i go back to again and again.
Enjoy!
Suzanne @ 220
Gasp! Suzanne tripled
TexBetsy @ 76
Well maybe they needed it for “entertainment”?
http://dir.salon.com/story/new…..6/dyncorp/
Or maybe it was used to help pay bribes to get an Iraqi convicted of corruption break out of jail?
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004385.php
Those sorts of little expenses really add up…”a million here, a million there…and soon your talkin’ about real money!”
newtonusr @ 194
Yeah, I plan to send that one to my relatives.
Bob in HI
persiflage @ 219
and folks say i have no sense of humor (laughing)
TexBetsy @ 211
Done! May it reveal all that there is, and may all that there is be good stuff.
(I’ll let someone else translate all that into MRI language!)
Bob in HI
Suzanne @ 224
gnite, Suz. I’m countin’ those ex-points in 223, tho. *g*
just wondering which venue the BlogAds posse will choose to apologize to Valerie.
I always knew you had a sense of humour Suzanne, I just never knew it was so naughty.
persi, don’t let the innocent look fool ya – i’m one of those sick twisted evil naughty humor folks – i just play a nice person if my ex is not around.
punaise @ 232
Yes. And an unusual posse they were, too.
So you’re the reverse Jessica Rabbit? “I’m not good, I’m just drawn that way”.
It seems I missed a punctuational brouhaha earlier, can I retroactively donate the bandwidth I didn’t use to Tuttle and his Dancing ExPos?
speaking of posse, my canine posse corps needs to save some redwoods (token’s sister is visiting)
i’ll return shortly – be sure to talk about me while i’m gone (laughing)
Oh Lurking Mod, are you there? You’ve met our lovely Suzanne, what’s the scoop? Normally I wouldn’t gossip but she’s ordered me to talk about her and I obey.
persiflage @ 238
What would you like to know?
TexBetsy @ 145
TexBetsy…I hate such poor Science writing and the penchant for taking extreme quotes from those doing such studies.
“Their results, published in the journal Twin Research and Human Genetics, suggested that between 41% and 48% of a person’s leaning towards one of the food groups was influenced by genetics.”
This is actually a pretty low heritability…and indicates that in a population that environmental inflences are actually greater than genetic ones. It would also suggest that identical twins raised in different environments are just as likely to have different food preferences/distastes as identical ones. They will,of course, be even more alike in the same environment…but that is more due to their similar environment rather than the identity of their genes.
For one thing, not everyone thought dietary preferences were strictly environmental or the result of rearing. Some thought it was fully genetically influenced. Most scientists felt that the ambiguous evidence suggested an interaction between environment and genetic influences (epigenesis). This is apparently the case with many behavioral genes and preferences that have been studied in such controlled twin-studies.
It certainly doesn’t support the statement that Spector later makes that education campaigns are not going to be productive in changing peoples dietary behavior. The ability to change ones “tastes” would likely be subject to the complex of genes that one carries (sokme would be more changeable than others), how early the environmental factors were instituted, and which efforts were actually instituted. Some efforts might be more effective than others.
And “heritability” only is measured in a sampled population. In a more environmentally homogenous sample the GENETIC imput would actually increase. In more diverse dietary environments you’ll see more environmental variability. And if someone comes up with an innovative method of influencing dietary choice the environmental measue will shoot way up, especially if lots of people are exposed to it.
People seem to misunderstand that heritability is not some fixed measure. It changes wdepending upon the genetic and environmental variability in a population. Some traits could go from 100% genetically influenced…to 100% environmentally influenced in just a few generations!
It probably more accurate to say that dietary preference is about evenly influenced by genetic and environmental factors in the current British population.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 118
And if you’re not careful you’re gonna land in the Vice President’s office. And you know how tough he can be!
wigwam @ 146
The IRS isn’t involved in making such determinations. It would be other agencies that investigate whether illegal lobbyist contributions are being “laundered” through universities of other groups.
I think that if the “donor” wasn’t actually making the decisions as who was invited then both the lobbyist and the official would be shielded. But if a lobbyist said…”here’s a $100,000 for a gratuity to bring Tom DeLay to speak” this would likely be a red-flag and lead to an investigation of whether the lobbyist had suggested that the Congressman approach the school for a speaking engagement “that I’ve funded for you”.
Nothing would likely inhibit that University from offering the gratuity as long as the donor wasn’t identified by amount. If the University itself provided the funding then the Congressman or Official should bev required to recuse themselves in situations where they may have to make a decision regarding that institution.
The Lurking Mod @ 236
Something I always wonder about people I meet online, what’s her laugh like?
The Lurking Mod @ 239
OK… Suzanne had to pull a “Mod Enforcement Play” for bandwidth reasons.
There is a motto we have back here – A bit of good humor goes a long way. But there is one exception:
Do not, under any circumstances, F*** with Suzanne.
And we have nicknames. Suzanne’s is:
don’t fuck with me folks… the DFWMF Mod
As for the laugh, well, we’re not talking about tittering here. But if you can get her to chortle, you may just be safe.
The Lurking Mod @ 244
(laughing) lets just say that i really liked that line in the mommy dearest movie
token is so skittish – the acorns are falling like crazy around here – and every time one falls while we are outside he startles and then freezes. i guess when one is only 9 lbs, an acorn falling is like a bowling ball falling would be to me.
I have never, am not, and will never ferk with Suzanne. It’s not in my nature. Have fun with? Yep. Ferk? Never.
I’m not the type of person who needs to see the people I converse with online. If I can’t get enough of a picture of them from what they say, looking at them isn’t going to help. However, I do wonder about laughs. I imagine Suzanne’s laugh is deep, building into a guffaw that refuses to be alone and pulls you into peals of laughter too. It was an honest question, not an attempt as ferkery.
persi, TLM has a great laugh – the kinda whole body, really enjoying it laugh that makes the laughter contagious
Persi makes note – need to see Mommie Dearest again, my only memories of that film relate to coathangers.
Imus got the gate and so can this prick, beck. here is CNN’s comment page
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/fo…..d.off.html
10-20K emails ought to do it!
persi – Suzanne has a classic “chortle”, the kind that says, “there’s playfulness there”, but doesn’t frighten. Fun on the phone! And yes, contagious.
And thank you, ma’am!
Poor Token, it must be like the earth exploding around him with acorns dropping. Brave puppy, watering the redwoods despite the dangers. What’s Token’s visiting sister’s name?
persi, i think online allows us to see the inside person without the external visual influences.
what i do miss are the verbal cues, the tonal pitch or rhythm changes that alert us to snark or seriousness.
persi, goldie is his sister. they look so different – her all blonde to his dark and their personalities are completely different. she is a princess – he thinks he is a big dog. she barks – he runs up to strangers to be petted – i swear, if i get burglarized, he is gonna run up, tail wagging and say, if you pet me and call me the cutest dog in the world, i’ll tell ya where she keeps the good stuff
Lurkie, thanks for that. The playful chortle is pretty much what I expected.
I agree about verbal cues Suzanne. Considering that we have no emoticons, the level of misunderstanding at FDL seems pretty low and people are ready to clarify, correct or apologise. I was just joshing about donating my bandwidth to CTuttle.
token and goldie
Suzanne @ 250
My Gemma cat is aloof, she would never consider interrupting her nap to drive off a burglar. Sam’s a bit of a wusspuss, he’d come running to me, thus guiding the burglar to me and the Cavern of shiny Costume Jewellery.
Aww, they’re adorable Suzanne, although Token is the handsomest (don’t tell Goldie I said that).
i know you were joshing, persi and took no offense (and i agree, token is much cuter than goldie)
ok, off to bed (with better success than last night i hope otherwise, i’ll be doing a macarthur and returning again later)
g’nite all, be sure to keep a stiff upper lip – it makes it much easier to spit on the forkers
G’night Suzanne, sleep well, dream of ponies and puppies and ice cream for all.
Laura Doty @ 158
Usually in these twin studies they survey thousands of very minor traits. Some INDIVIDUAL Pairs have utterly weird things, like marrying women with the same name, AND having a pet dog of the same breed with the same nickname.
But one has to realize that these odd cases are often the extreme cases of convergent characteristics. They study lots of Identical twins raised apart and the vast majority do not marry women with the same name, or have dogs or cats with the same nickname.
So to be an accurate measure of whether twins are different in this respect you need to collect the same data (1000’s of traits) and assemble these into pairs (by sex and age, to be fair) and then see how many coincidences like this occur in the non-twin sample. Are there guys out there in that same sized sample that have wives named Michelle, that have Labradors named “Bobby”? Or something analogous (as it doesn’t have to be the same names to form a similar modal coincidence).
And then there are that huge class of charateristics that are NOT the same in these twin pairs…what explains those? Clearly identical genes are not destining people to be identical.
We also have to realize that these identical-twins raised apart are actually a quite odd population. They’ve generally shared some of their childhood or infancy together, they’ve shared an embryonic environment with subtle effects of their mom’s immunological system “prepping” their own. They developed with a partner in the womb, haring maternal resources. All of that is going to lend to environmental similarities during early development.
Plus most of these twin pairs share some sort of early childhood psychic trauma. Their parents may have died, or abandoned them, or “given them up” for adoption. Many of these kids were raised by relatives, and even have had contact. In the case of adoptions by non-relatives…they are often placed in middle class homes of the same ethnicity. The religious upbringing will be similar, they go to similar schools, live in similar neighborhoods. Sometimes the adoption agency actually ends upplacing the kids with families in the SAME NEIGHBORHOOD. That leads to some surprises a bit down the road!
Finally twins share a birthdate. And that alone makes them more like one another in certain measures. Take IQ tests. These would often be applied to everyone on the same date throughout a school or even State. So the twins take their tests at identical chronological ages. But most kids in a classroom will actually be different chronological ages (unless they share the same birthdate).
IQ tests are changed for children by year. Raw IQ scoresare not static. The older you are the better you will do on any particular “age-groups” IQ test. Those at age 12 years 300 days will do much better, on average, than if they took that same test at age 12 years 5 days.
Studies have shown that this “age-effect has as much as 10% difference in scores. Thus twins will fall much closer in IQ scores simply because they are testing at the identical same age. Other kids (the “control”) are not. the only way out of this would be to test all kids based on their birthday, or test twins on different days.
There are likely a whole range of subtle factors that relate to the fact that twins are sorted by age. They’ll experience many of the same cultural events at certain critical periods. Thus they’ll tend to like certain music, clothing styles, films, etc. to a much greater degree that two adult males selected “at random”. And this can affect political experiencesas well. Twins would have the same draft number, experience the same political scandals, etc. Given their genetic backgrounds it’s hardly odd that they will be more alike than two individuals selected at random. But their environments are just as much a factor in determining their “destiny” as their genes.
john in california @ 249
Thanks John. I tried to rally the Pups when it was OT several threads down at about 6 o’clock EDT when Duke Cunningham’s big house (the former, not the current one) and those of all his big name high profile neighbors was threatened. Under Hunter’s story of yesterday, Daily Kos has phone numbers for CNN and addresses for The San Diego Union Tribune, as well as letters and arguments that can serve as models. Plus, at Buffalo Girl and others, updates from those in the path of the fire.
I know the main focus today is Southwick, and taking down Beck is minor compared to stopping him, however, and contrary to the argument of the main post, I believe a successful effort re: Beck would send a general message to CNN that being Fox news wannabes is not a smart business plan.
This is also an opportunity to use the letter writing skills we were taught recently. Again
UNFORTUNATELY KOS CURRENTLY DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE. Visit it later.
So outraged that I forgot to say a very good morning Pups and if it is not OT, Go Sox.
Raining in Athens.
I’m looking for the retraction of Siun’s “Iraq’s Deadly ‘Improvement’” post, but I’m not seeing it.
I know the FDL front-pagers are busy, but that post is WRONG, pure and simple. See my comment there.
raven @ 264
Good Morning, Yesterday you mentioned Oxford Book Store, what a trip down memory lane. That was my sons favorite end of school year activities. Nice line of showers heading our way from Alabama heading our way. The trees are already starting to dance just at the thought of some precious rain.
JPL @ 266
Yea, I used to drive all the way from Athnes to go there and spend hours browsing. Now it’s Amazon and Bookfinder!
low-tech cyclist (formerly RT) @ 265
did you see Hubris Sonic’s reply and explanation to you?
p.s. if you’re going to make a camplaint, next time would you please include a link to the comment you want us to read (so no one has to go searching for it)? thx.
Mornin’, dear pups -
A bit of news that should bring a smile to your faces:
Per joeblow show, Plame will be on KO tonight (Tuesday)!
67 and rain in Trendy Blue Ridge.
Running late here.
And I too remember the Oxford Bookstore fondly..
low-tech cyclist (formerly RT) @ 265
You don’t deserve a retraction. The data by Hubris actually does include Iraqi KIA by province, and not JUST the US casualties. The data indicates Prima Facie that the provinces where US casualties are lowest (where we are not engaged in combat) are also those where Iraqi casualty levels are least. AND some of those provinces are those where the US were engaged in combat just months before, taking a lot of casualties and KIA, and have left.
And even if you develop an alternative hypothesis (which you really haven’t done) about what has created the pattern found on the two graphs, you still haven’t FALSIFIED Siun’s (and Hubris’) interpretation. You would simply have offered an “alternative”. And their explanation also incorporates other information that supports their position, It simply ISN’T merely an interpretation based exclusively on the data.
http://www.groupnewsblog.net/2…..op-in.html
I also find that it’s more than a bit presumptuous that you can order a “retraction”. Retractions are made when there is fraud, forgery or data manipulation, not merely because someone disagrees with you. Especially when you really haven’t made much of case.
Why should Beck care if he’s the lowest rated and kept on just to keep Tucker the Twit from being the lowest rated cable show? He’s collecting a paycheck that is damn sure to be a whole hell of a lot bigger than anything given to folks out here in the real world. Anywhere it’s doubtful this pinhead is smart enought to know what a pinhead he is. Pinheads seldom do.
Good morning, Mr. Bill.
When CNN put Beck on, I wrote that I would not watch. And suggested that Ted Turner would have found a good mix, instead of a talkradio retread.
Of course, they run Nancy Grace, too.
You would think a Modern Turner-wouldbe would see that an explicitly progressive show, working on investigative journalism, could be a breakout winner..
Yo Lindy.
Good morning, pups. Bob Herbert is the only “big name” today. He’s writing about the desperate plight of uninsured people trying to deal with cancer.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee and tea are ready, and a variety of bagels and cream cheese are set out on the counter. Have a good day.
chalmers johnson’s book review of, “The Matador’s Cape, America’s Reckless Response to Terror” by Stephen Holmes is an interesting discussion of how we came to attack iraq. i especially like this bit from the end:
selise @ 278
It will be hard to dismantle the empire as long at the Becks and Gingrichs and Cheneys are able to get away with equating criticism of Administration policies, and acknowledgment of American mistakes as “hating America”.
selise @ 268
Selise, your linkie didn’t connect so here’s another.
http://www.groupnewsblog.net/2…..op-in.html
And here is the link to the Iraq Body Count data for Iraqi Civilian deaths. I haven’t graphed it out…but it’s pretty clear that for the last several months the areas where we surged have higher civilian casualty counts than in areas which we have withdrawn from or have “ceded”.
http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx
As Hubris Sonic and Siun have pointed out this could be evidence either that the “surge” succeeded…or that it could have simply been attained by withdrawing WITHOUT ever having a surge. A third possibility is that the increased violence that occurs when the US surges into an area creates refugees…and those of minority groups simply don’t return. Essentially the areas become ethnic enclaves and thus there are fewer “targets” and the militias that take over don’t have to deal with issues of interethnic conflict. The remaining members of the minority sects are so small that they don’t pose a risk.
In either case it would indicate that there is no need for an extended US military presence in Iraq…and that it’s better that Iraqis occupy an area, whether that be the ING or some local militia by a warlord.
Good morning!
morning, egregious
Glenn Beck makes my stomach turn. There’s something about him that makes me envision him standing over one of his daughters in the middle of the night and saying, “It’s okay honey. It won’t hurt. God will protect you”. Ewwwwwwwwwww.
CNN went to hell when Ted sold it.
Good morning Egregious. ;-)
Larry Johnson has his Plame interview up on his site. http://noquarterusa.net/blog/ Enjoy.
Good morning Egregious, Marion, Selise, C-ape. Y’all have a good one. I’m outta here.
As for uninsured, I am a self employed glass artist. Stabbed myself in the leg on a piece of glass yesterday. After two hours of nonstop bleeding went to the emergency room(couldn’t see my Dr., happened late afternoon) $1050 later I have two stitches a box of stery strips and a Rx for antibiotics!!!!!!! NAAAAH we don’t need no healthcare reform. This meatpuppet Beck used to be on my local rightwingnut noise station. He was a dry drunk moron then and he’s worse now. You would think the right would at SOME point become embarrassed at the clowns that are their face in the public’s eyes. Apparently not.
Good morning, folks. No rain in Upstate New York (at least my portion thereof), but it is very warm, cloudy and dark, so I’m going to make the rash assumption that we are, as they say, “gonna get it”.
IMHO, people like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Carlson et al. got their chance when Reagan nixed the Fairness Doctrine.
If we want to clean up the media of this pseudo-journalistic scum, I think that is where we have to direct our attentions – the re-establishment of a Fairness Doctrine.
But, others may disagree…
cinnamonape @ 280 –
thanks! especially for the discussion. i hope low-tech cyclist will see your replies.
(p.s. i was trying to link to hubric sonic’s comment… maybe this link will work)
Hey Lindy, Kay, JPL, Toby. Bye to MR. Bill.
(((((secular))))) what a story. Hope you’re feeling better.
Hey selise, how are you today? Don’t we have about 5 hearings coming up?
MR. Bill @ 285
have a great day mr. bill!
Mornin’ all!
egregious @ 289
I read a story recently about a grant program that gives $50,000 (I think that is right) to working artists. One of the truly interesting things is that almost all of the people who were interviewed for the article had used a fairly big chunk of that money to get healthcare work done or pay off bills because they had been without for so long.
Now, far be it from me to tell someone what to use an arts grant for (this is like the only grant where there are no strings attached, like a show or a publication or something), but it seems very very sad to me that for people in the prime of their artistic lives, when they could have used that money to go abroad and study with a master or build a studio or something…instead, they had to use a lot of their grant to get their teeth fixed. I’ll bet artists in European countries don’t have to worry about THAT.
Universal healthcare – that’s a right. healthcare should not a privilege.
cinnamonape
Also works statistically in cases of mass slaughter. Not so many people left.
Hey twolf, Marion, wondering if anybody has news about OldCoastie or Loo Hoo who were evacuated from the fires in San Diego.
secularhumanizinevoluter @ 286
No one will have sympathy for me…and I get that. Nonetheless, I, too, am about to get hurt by Health ins. issues. Up till now, it’s been a free benefit with my job. It looks like effective 1/1/08 I will have to contribute 17.5% of the cost. Right now that cost is around $870/month. If it goes up, so does my deduction. So, in effect, I’m going to start losing around $150/mo in take home pay. It’s going to hurt.
Larry’s interview with Valerie is quite good. The insensitivity by the CIA leadership is quite appaling. It does paint a picture of the organization not protecting it’s own.
egregious @ 290
well, i have about 20 or more on the list for today. but for folks who don’t want to click the link to pick the hearing that interests them most, my recommendation and the one i’m going to be watching is this one:
for webcast, see committee website.
(and i’ll hopefully be recording the audio, as c-span is not scheduled to carry this hearing)
raven @ 264
Well, that’s good news. How much rain is needed to get out of danger?
Map of the CA wildfires.
JPL @ 284
thank, jpl. i was looking forward to this interview.
twolf1 @ 300
scary
solai @ 296
of course we will!
(((solai)))
our fucked up health care delivery system is sucking for more and more of us.
p.s. i am now paying over $400/mo and consider myself lucky. although at some point i really have got to think about getting a housemate to help pay for it.
Here’s some NASA satellite pix of the fires as seen from space. note the time difference on the pictures.
twolf1 @ 304
Thanks.
Mika was just giving Dana Perino a hard time about the new war fuding request. Doing a pretty good job….for about 45 seconds. Then she was cut off by Scarborough who needed to ask how hard it would be to face David Gregory every day.
solai @ 299
So much they can’t measure it. It hadn’t rained in weeks and it rained on and off all day yesterday. There was immediately a story saying the rain was meaningless.
solai @ 306
Imus would have roasted Dana’s ass.
Hey raven. Glad to hear you guys have rain at last.
the low rent Tucker Carlson…of ourse Beck thinks that is a compliment
raven @ 308
Yes he would have. Nobody believes us, though, raven. There was a diary at DKos urging dems not to go on his show. I hope Imus has figured out a way to improve his show to the point where liberals will feel alright appearing.
My husband tells me they got 5″ of rain in New Orleans yesterday and are expecting another 5″ today. He said it APPEARS as though they turn the pumps on for a few minutes and then turn them off again. The shop didn’t quite get flooded, though the water was up over the curb, and the drain was not blocked. The house didn’t flood either, though, again, the water was over the curb. Our house had never flooded…before it did after the levees were breached.
Solai, raven,
Prairie Sunshine is an Imus fan.
solai @ 311
I hope so too, getting rid of Bernie would help.
egregious @ 313
Yea, I probably shouldn’t bring it up. No one is going to change their mind however they feel.
solai @ 311
i believe you… but i also have to balance that against the repeated racist/sexist comments and the damage they do.
maybe different people can come to different conclusions?
selise @ 316
I agree, it’s almost like he is two people. I never could figure out how Deidre put up with it.
Lindy @ 312
From this morning’s Picayune regarding yesterday’s heavy rains. Street flooding in all the usual spots, and this was just a rainstorm. Sigh.
http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/f…..amp;coll=1
Wo Lindy, another 5″ today? Stay safe, and keep us posted.
unfortunately, I don’t have MSNBC so my comments would be based only on what I have read in MSM. Imus’ reported racial insensitivies are unsettling to me.
Off to prepare for work. See all later.
lindy – looks like the worst is now past and there will be a few days w/o rain. hope everyone has a chance to dry out.
The next republican candidate…
JPL @ 320
I’ll never defend his racial stupidity. Horrible. But if you could have seen him hammering (every day) the conditions at Walter Reed or the lack of a study to find out if immunizations were causing autism or pushing to get the Veteran’s hospital in Texas, you’d have a more complete picture.
Spineocrat: A Dietary Supplement for Congressional Democrats
must read:
I’m going to be late for work but let me add that he’d show photos of the ‘leaders’ letting us down and just tear into them something fierce. Congressman Barton stopped the investigation into the immunization probe. He blasted him (with his smiling photo up) day after day. Told how he lied to parents of autistic children. Told how Barton called his bosses to get him to shut up. No holds barred.
if Imus was such a hammer for Walter Reed why did he never mention the failure of the the florida congressman young who knew about the problems at Walter Reed and covered them up
he didn’t discover the problems at Reed and he didn’t do anything to make it better
as for the hospital in texas…it is nothing more than a tax dodge …the real question is why didn’t the feds fund it.
he ays less taxes because of shrub and we are supposed to idolized him because of phony charities
why would anyone spend time listening to someone whose show is a litney of complaints about their health and then spews hate
Flyin’ by — yep, count me in the “I believe in redemption” give Imus another chance club.
Especially when you consider the dreck we’re left with in his absence.
Morning Noise in full BushCo push the surgical strikes on Iran mode as Scar rips off the mask of “fairness” to channel Chee-knee. So far this morning he’s been schmoozin’ with Tinkerbelle about how much fun it is to be press secretary.
Bullying Mika and cutting her off. And huzzah, Rush is still to come….
solai @ 327
he only did that because Barton dissed his wife
the issues as you present are not accurate
I have always been amazed why both of these jerks get so much face time. That twit carlsonis actually getting cover by beck…and they both have sponsers.
Toby Wollin @ 293
WHAT IS THE GRANT PROGRAM!!!!!!!
I have always been amazed why both of these jerks get so much face time. That twit carlson is actually getting cover by beck…and they both have sponsors.
Carlson = Office of Vice President
Beck = Voice of Mormon owned Bonneville Radio Network (He’s a Mormon – a convert – the loudest and most scary.)
Imus is the personification along with B. ORielly of that soft racist underground stream that runs through the American personality. When called on it they are TRULY amazed that ANYONE would take what they said as being racist. They REALLY weren’t TRYING to be racist. They just don’t understand, yes, they weren’t TRYING to be racist. They ARE racist. And that’s not to say they aren’t really wonderful compassionate folks in allot of other ways. Well, OK, not in ORielly’s case. Kinda like my family of origin. I don’t spend any time around them if I can help it. I told them years and years ago, you can be as racist and crazy as you want over there. This,gesturing to make a circle around me, is a no crazy zone. It works pretty well, but it is a shame they can’t pull their heads outta their asses and leave the stupid stuff behind.
I just read the ratings for the last 3 quarters and Beck is not last and he is higher than Tucker. It doesn’t really matter whether you like them or not. Your facts are wrong.