Dodd wiped the floor with everyone in the latest Kos straw poll, taking 21% of the vote (up from 7% last month). Edwards dropped by 8%, Obama by 5%, and Hillary by 2%.
Today he’s blogging on HuffPo:
As the representatives of the American people, our job is in many ways quite simple: to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” There’s no question in my mind that Democrats were given a majority in both the House and the Senate based on their promises to change the course of the country. We were elected to strengthen the nation by ending this war, restoring our standing in the world and returning the nation to an adherence to the rule of law. An integral part of that mandate was to reverse and stop the Bush Administration’s assault on the Constitution.
Yet, we today are faced with the possibility that the Senate will see a renewal of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that enables the Bush Administration to broadly eavesdrop on American citizens and provides for retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies that helped them violate civil liberties and the law.
The Constitution of the United States belongs to the American people, not to the Bush administration. It is our responsibility as Senators and Congressmen to stand up and fight for it.
Good lord it’s a breath of fresh air to see a politician actually fighting for what the majority of the country believes in. I swear I thought that breed had gone the way of the pterodactyl.
Dodd raised $150,000 in donations from small donors in twenty four hours last week after his decision to filibuster. He’s now moving to Iowa with his wife and kids until the January caucuses.



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In Dodd we trust.
Go Dodd, Go Dodd!!!!
We in this house are warming to Dodd.
Dodd Bless America.
I think Dodd could clean the clocks of Rudy, Freddie and Mittie.
Where have Edwards, Obama and Clinton been this past week? Hardly a peep from them on any of this. I am most disappointed in Edwards because I have such high hopes for him.
it’s great to see another feingold, this one running for president
check this out;
the other candidates need to be mailed that statistic, EVERY democrat ESPECIALLY PELOSI needs to be mailed that statistic
the republicans that we think we cannot beat need to be mailed that statistic, and they need to know with no doubt we will challenge their seat and we have a good chance of winning unless they start doing what the American people want them to do.
we also need to challenge pelosi’s seat, so long as “impeachment is off the table”, her seat must be on the table, she is abandoning her oath of office and it’s about time she started doing her job
Perhaps Dodd is the man for the job.
Dodd seems to be a very smart candidate, knows how to run with it when he has the opportunity.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 8
they are starting to get all over hillary
they’re calling her a s*cial*st, they are starting to make fun of everything she does, they think that’s the ticket to energize their base
raw story posted a poll where 50 percent of Americans say they wouold never vote for hillary and the only chance the republicans have is if hillary is our candidate.
Imagine a candidate actually running on protecting the Constitution. OT, I hope that all the firedoglakers in CA are okay.
At the end of his term I honestly would like to see George W. Bush handed over to the people of Iraq for trial.
At some point during an election season, my mind usually crystalizes around a candidate that seems to best represent my beliefs.
For 2008, that candidate is Senator Dodd.
nevermind, will repost, please delete the first version of this
ironranger @ 9
they are starting to get all over hillary
they’re calling her a soc*alist, they are starting to make fun of everything she does, they think that’s the ticket to energize their base
raw story posted a poll where 50 percent of Americans say they wouold never vote for hillary and the only chance the republicans have is if hillary is our candidate.
anybody know how many people made that $150,000?
This is really good news. I saw that until September, Dodd had essentially flatlined in the dKos poll at 0-1% and was on life support. What did he do in September to get enough attention to jump to 7%? and now to second place!
But will this translate at all into national attention beyond the Netroots? I hope so!
Shades of Howard Dean in 2003! Maybe this is the spine transplant that Democrats needed!
Bob in HI
Gotta replace rubber stamp Reid and Pelosi.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 6
Well to be fair to Edwards, the media don’t cover him that closely.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 6
Me, too. Dodd and Edwards were my top Two.
Now, Dodd’s my top One.
Bob in HI
Nancy is a failure.
Great post Jane. Thanks for the support and positive feedback. All these comments mean so much to us on the campaign. Senator Dodd is going to keep fighting and we’ll be here with him.
Disclosure: I proudly work for Chris Dodd’s presidential campaign.
On Olbermann; according to Bush the problem in Iraq is Iran.
perris @ 14
In that case, they are starting to make fun of her a little too soon. They would be better off making sure she gets nominiated – THEN ripping her to shreds.
What really irks me is the leadership of my party (Demos) thinks I’m stupid.
Please forgive the OT, Keith just announced that Valerie Plame Wilson will be on Countdown tomorrow night.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 23
krystol, the person who has yet to be right about anything actually had the nerve to say;
“the only thing preventing success in Iraq is Iran”
the very next day cheney did all he could to pound the war drum
they are doing it again and the democrats have given them permission too
Hmmm… Valerie never mentioned she was gonna be on KO tomorrow…!!! 8-)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 13
I am so hoping that Joelie Lieberman is beside himself, because of all the attention/adulation that Dodd is deservedly receiving.
Fern @ 24
that would be fine if they were energizing their base and getting some kind of positive feedback, they are not and they have to start giving their voters some motivation
it is too soon to play their hand but when there is nothing else to play that’s all they have
Matt Browner Hamlin @ 22
I would love to work for his campaign, is he setting anything up in the long island new york area?
Boo Radley @ 29
yes
CTuttle @ 27
I would think she is pretty good at keeping secrets.
Jane Hamsher @ 33
jane, glad you’re here, I want to thank you profusely for getting Valery to live blog with us here at the lake
twas an incredible honor and I believe oberman took your que and is now going to have her on tomorrow as well
thanx for all you do jane
Eureka Springs @ 33
707! It was an awesome thread, many luminaries popped in…!!!
Pelosi’s first mistake was to take impeachment off the table. The second was to cave on the May Iraqi supplemental. Even so she could have repaired relations with the base if she had just reached out to us. Instead she engineered the August FISA f*ckup then hid out during the break. The big September showdown over Iraq went bye-bye. And her most recent statements about us have been dismissive and hostile. Not good.
It’s all so perfect. Dodd becomes President Dodd and Lamont becomes Senator Lamont.
perris @ 31
We don’t have any campaign offices in Long Island, but there are plenty of ways for people to get involved who aren’t in early primary states. Go to our volunteer page or email volunteer AT chrisdodd DOT com…
Thanks for your interest!
Dodd was a champion for Ned last year. I’m sure it burned JoeLie that he did that but Dodd showed the rest of the dems what it looks like to be loyal to the dem voters.
Let’s all remember that because few of the other dems had the integrity to do that.
Jane Hamsher @ 32
Jane,
Did you see this from Eleanor Clift? “Lieberman in Limbo” Nobody loves (trusts) HoJo.
Hugh @ 36
Pelosi sets my teeth on edge.
Hugh @ 37
the real mistake is the threat of impeachment then looses it’s power and the president is given license to keep pushing the envelope
whether or not impeachment was off the table she should have never tipped that hand, she needed to play it close to the vest
she really is not suited for her job, sad to say too because the first few weeks in office I thought she would make a grand president and I said so
now I don’t think she makes a good anything
I hope she reads the lake because it is very distressing to see her slide the way she has and there is still time to reclaim her esteem but she needs to move on it immediatley
Yup, they sure are dumping all over hilary. It’s still a long way to go till next Nov & anything can happen in the meantime to completely change the picture. I read an article yesterday about the tv political ads that will start in Jan & almost had to run for the pepto. I’m pretty tired of the media pumpkin’s front runner of the day updates. I think I contracted campaign fatigue by midsummer.
I know full well who I blame for the Lamont defeat. And it’s not Joe Liebrman whom I loath.
CTuttle @ 28
I would like to believe oberman got the idea from her appearance at the lake, I wonder if he was lurking
Oklahoma kiddo @ 44
Do tell, Oklahoma! Name names,please.
ironranger @ 43
I have campaign fatique already, and I don’t even live in the US.
2 things
Wow, I must be channeling you Jane- I just used “breath of fresh air” about another candidate, in a comment at DWT, before I read here.
AND, a good while back, Ned Lamont endorsed Chris Dodd for President. Good call.
dakine01 @ 40
That was funny.
Obama’s campaign can’t figure out how to handle their antigay crusading gospel singer buddy, Hillary’s trying hard to justify giving Bush more cover for a war with Iran and sadly, either the media is ignoring him or Edwards is stalling out.
Dodd is showing what politicians should be, someone who will stand up and deliver for the people. A good leader knows how to seize the moment and use it for inspiration, Dodd’s definitely on the right track.
perris @ 46
It was mentioned on a thread yesterday some time that KO would have Valerie on Tues. I don’t remember when, but I’m sure Valerie’s publicist has been lining up interviews for the whole week. Tomorrw on Ed Schultz and who knows what else in addition to KO.
Hugh @ 18
Unless he’s getting a haircut, that is…
Jane Hamsher @ 49
Yeah. Nothing like doing all you can to p*ss everybody off then whining about how you get no respect.
Do you think we could give Harry Reid a blood transfusion with some of Chris Dodd’s blood? Just a little.
Anybody hear from Old Coastie this afternoon? This morning he/she said that the cars were pointing to the road and the pets were packed. He/she was 5 miles from the fire’s edge.
Dodd inspires confidence. Plus he would blow any Republican candidate out of the water. But mostly Senator Dodd has made sense, shown leadership and courage. Dodd appears to be presidential timber.
Hugh @ 36
IMHO Pelosi’s first mistake was stabbing her colleague, Congressman Murtha in the back and empowering good ole war monger Steney Hoyer.
Marion in Savannah @ 52
shame, edwards is a real democrat, not afraid to go where democrats need to go..everyone else is trying to woo republicans, edwards is the only one trying to woo the American middle class
I like him but I don’t think he’s got the carisma to make it happen
off for a while, see all later or maybe tomorrow…must get some rest
I hope Valerie is invited to appear on Charlie Rose.. He is such a pushover for the Neonuts, she should get a lot of air time to say what she wants on his show.
Haven’t heard from OC or from Loo Hoo who said her school was being evacuated…that was before the Special Book Salon.
:(
perris @ 59
If we’re looking for charisma, we’re sunk (then again, so are the repigs). I’m looking for leadership. Would the american people recognize that if it bit them in the *ss? I wonder.
RevDeb @ 55
Also Loo Hoo. She said her school was being evacuated. Anybody heard from her?
I’ll admit it…
I was kind of cool towards Dodd when he first announced his candidacy (on Imus yet, fer god’s sake!) He didn’t impress me all that much.
Lately, however, I’m much more on board with Chris since he’s decided to throw political caution to the wind and start acting like a real leader.
I’m convinced. Count me among his supporters now.
Perris, what about an Edwards/Dodd ticket? It’s interesting that in 2 progressive straw polls I’ve seen (Kos and one other) Edwards is on top, by a bunch. He’s still on top of Dodd at Kos.
RevDeb @ 55
I’m trying to get hold of my daughter, the Princess. She lives in La Jolla and works in San Diego.
Lee on cspan1
w00t Dodd!
Connecticut Bob @ 65
Hi Bob!
Are the rest of the CT bloggers on board at this point?
Hugh @ 36
Hugh, re: Pelosi’s statements, which I assume were the ones that referred to Pete Stark, C&L put up a great video about “the President’s amusement”. Nails Bush.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IarN_fNdAHk&
RevDeb @ 55
Any word from LooHoo as well? She commented this morning she was evacuating her horse. Apologies if I missed any updates on her….damned day job.
Marion in Savannah @ 65
Seems like a natural pairing to me.
Keep it up Dodd! Keep going left, sorry I mean to the center with the MAJORITY of the American people on the issues. Keep taking stands on the issues that the GOP hates and watch your poll nunbers grow.
I’ve had enough of comprimise that bends over backwards to accomadate Bush.
We have ideas we just need a Presidential candidate to stand for them.
Its only the Media calling us Lefties…and me the Polls call us the CENTER and the MAJORITY!
Connecticut Bob @ 64
We have not forgotten Mr. Lamont.
Hugh @ 36
you left out h.con.res.21 and other iran related stupidities in may and june. that’s when she lost me.
demi @ 61
I wish we’d hear something from them, just a peep!
And Dodd raised $200,000in just 36 hours around his announcement that he would put a hold on the current FISA wiretapping legislation and filibuster it if necessary.
RevDeb @ 68
Yeah, the consensus seems to be leaning heavily towards Dodd right now; of course, if Gore jumps into the race in the next month or so, that might change. But barring that, we’re pretty much backing our honorable senator (as opposed to our dishonorable senator, or as I like to call him, “He Who Must Not Be Named”)
Matt Browner Hamlin @ 21
matt – dodd showed his ealier good judgment by hiring you and tim.
Hugh @ 36
A person can be fine in one position and someone says let’s make so and so the CEO. They are a disaster as CEO. Hanging the shingle out doesn’t make the person qualified. This is worse because the consequences are tragic and sweeping. Interesting how you can see it and she can’t.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 73
I’ll be seeing Ned this Wednesday at a fund raiser for our town’s Democratic mayoral candidate (Holy Joe was just in town last week, stumping for the Republican mayor of course).
I am still hoping that Gore comes in.
CTBob, I commented on this earlier in the thread, but I trust you know that Lamont endorsed Dodd a good while back. (And, Gore will not run.)
Fern@47: lol. Lucky you, not living in the US.
Campaign fatigue, bushco fatigue, fisa fatigue, schip fatigue, health care fatigue and war, war & more war fatigue. I’m going on a R&R & get a break from all this. I just wish I didn’t have to fly our “safe” skies to get there!
Where is the Californa National Guard and the Army reserves etc are they and their equipment in Iraq? Or is Arnold a little slow in calling them up?
Things Come Undone @ 85
He called 1,500 up to help earlier today.
Right now I am thinking that Gore will not run. In that case, as things stand now Senator Dodd looks very, very good.
Eureka Springs @ 71
If Dodd is not the nominee for POTUS, I’d just as soon he stay in the Senate (at least as long as the governor nominating his replacement is an R). Otherwise, she’d nominate someone like Shays or Nancy Johnson to replace him.
Connecticut Bob @ 77
heh..
Curious in Central Texas @ 85
Thats good news thanks!
dakine01 @ 87
I forgot to factor that in… You’re right.
OT
Sen. Bernie Sanders (the GOOD independent) has announced he’s going to vote against Mukasey.
Mod:
Please fix my #86. Obviously that should be “Dodd”. Thx.
I wonder if other Dem candidates and congress are taking notice of the results of Dodd showing he has a backbone.
I recall reading that Gore said he would endorse before the primary season. The article mentioned Obama, Edwards, and Dodd. This was at least a month ago.
PS – I contributed to Dodd in Q2 & Q3 this year — yeah me!!
OK, $25, I assume he won’t turn out to be a Rick Noriega!
RevDeb @ 91
it’s a start!
Marion in Savannah @ 90
Agreed.. Sorry, I just ran with the Senator Lamont idea..)
RevDeb @ 91
good for sanders! and i understand he is also going to be supporting dodd’s hold on fisa?
ironranger @ 93
I can’t believe that they don’t have fingers on the pulse of the internets toobz. Or am I being hopelessly naive?
I just talked to Loo Hoo.
The fire is about 3 blocks from her house.
She’s at a friend’s house in a nearby city.
She packed up the dogs and split this am.
I told her about all the concern here for her and she sends everyone her love.
Hi Matt @ 21:
THANK YOU Senator Dodd!
THANK YOU ((((((((JANE))))))))))
demi @ 100
thank you for telling us!
(((Loo Hoo and OC)))
demi @ 101
thanks for making the call. I treasure this community that looks out for one another.
demi @ 100
Thanks demi! Bless Loo Hoo’s great heart!
Tom Gross of National Review Online WPITW for claiming that eventually “peaceniks” will recognize that Bush/Cheney have “prevented” WWIII.
BungleO BillO the silver
Glenn Beck the bronze
demi @ 100
Hey, thanks so much for the update; it’s hard to know your Lake friends are under threat like that.
demi @ 100
Crikey! I hope Loo Hoo has “Howie’s Luck”- the Griffith Park fire came within a block of destroying his house. Thanks for the report, demi. {{{Loo Hoo}}}
oh, i almost forgot… here’s an earlier (today) comment of mine that got epu’ed but is on topic now:
fyi – i just called senator whitehouse’s office again (here’s my comment reporting friday’s call).
on friday, it was reported that senator whitehouse had voted for the senate intelligence’s fisa bill (although it contained telco immunity and other bad stuff). over the weekend, we have a new report that senator whitehouse voted against stripping telco immunity from the senate intelligence committee’s fisa bill:
so i called back… this morning the person who answered the phone seemed to find it unbelievable that senator whitehouse would vote for telco immunity. i agree – it seems quite out of character, at least what we have seen so far. she asked to put me on hold while she called two aides to find out what was going on…. no one seems to know – or is not telling. i asked for a statement explaining the votes…
it might help to have other people call his office to ask why he voted the way he did, and to support senator dodd’s efforts to block the bill.
senator sheldon whitehouse – 202-224-2921
Hi Matt!
I was pleased to meet Sen. Dodd when he was doing the bus tour with Ned on the last weekend of the election last year. I’ve respected him for a while and am now on the bandwagon. Sent money when he stepped up. Will send more.
Say hi to Tim for us too.
Eureka Springs @ 97
If Dodd wins, I’ll gladly concede Grandma Rell to appoint her Republican toady in Dodd’s place. There’d have to be an election in 2010 anyway, when Dodd’s current term expires.
So, Senator Lamont might not be an impossible dream, especially against a two year non-elected Republican senator. That is, IF he decides to run again.
David W. Bartoo @ 46
;0)
demi @ 100
Tell her we are all worried about her and thinking of her.
Jane Hamsher @ 112
Ditto.
thanks for the news of loo hoo, does any one know about oc?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 86
Personally I think that it would be extremely unfair of Gore to announce at this point. And I think one of the reason Gore looks so good is because we have seen so little of him of late. One of my ex-husband’s better lines was that the inaccessibility is the essence of romance, and I think it applies to Gore at this point.
Plus of course the fact that he would have been ever so much better that the current incumbent – so nostalgia enters into this as well.
Connecticut Bob @ 110
Oh I agree that if he were to win the POTUS, let Rell do her thing. But if he’s not the POTUS nominee and winner, let him stay in the Senate.
Marion in Savannah@99:
They may see but do they pay any attention to what they see? Who knows, they’ve been pretty obtuse so far.
Good news that Loo Hoo is safe.
Valley Girl @ 69
brilliant!! must see video
Can you just imagine what Dodd could do to Rudy, one-on-one? Or Fred. Or Mitt for that matter.
Marion in Savannah @ 90
But there would be a special election within two years. And guess who would win?
I once had Dodd in the “Ghostman Doghouse”. He apparently appeared here last Fall, but took only questions on a single topic….just like Ole G&S Hillary did.
Since that time, Dodd appeared here in some sort of….?video-blog? and made it a point to say that he would answer all questions posed. And, he did.
He’s always stood right up on important issues. No mealy-mouthing from him. I am favorably impressed. He’s out of my doghouse, and I can easily support him.
Ghostman
dakine01 @ 117
Since he’s not up for reelection until 2010 he would be keeping his seat should he not go all the way. Not to worry.
Fern @ 115
Absence makes the heart grow fonder?
selise @ 118
Thanks, Selise. I thought it was brilliant too. I also rank it as “must see” video.
My only criticism is that it is not as complete as it might be. (kidding, but I think this only scratches the surface)
{{{{{{{Loo Hoo}}}}}}}!!!!!
Right now, I am very frustrated that there is no current coverage of this massive catastrophe…Larry King is covering it now finally after hours of nothing.
Goddess, the pictures look like Baghdad on the Pacific.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 123
That too.
Though it didn’t work with the ex-husband – absence just made me grateful.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 111
Senator Barbra Boxer who did not listen to her staff nor appalled constituents including this still angry ole brat.
Jane Hamsher @ 112
Just did. Called her back and tol’ her.
She’s such a trooper.
Doesn’t sound worried or anything. We are planning a gf pajama party for the night of the Firepup meet up for So Calers.
Loo Hoo!
I love the Lake. If their is a disaster and the msm covers it people raise hell. If there is a disaster and the msm doesn’t cover it enough. . .
The only thing that has cheered me up all day is imagining Dodd debating whoever is the Repub nominee, doesn’t really matter who it is, they are equally pathetic. I’m going to hold on to that thought. Thanks, OKK for that vision.
raven @ 129
Here in Michigan we have only two candidates on the January 15th Primary. Clinton and Dodd. Dodd just earned my vote. But other voters may vote for him since he is the only Clinton antidote. Either way, expect him to get a PR boost going into Iowa and NH.
And to complicate things, Michigan may also have a caucus in February so we can actually send delegates to the national convention.
Ghostman @ 121
Send a few bucks his way otherwise progressives are going to end up with the conventional candidate the msm is pushing on the country.
ironranger @ 130
He would wipe the floor with any of them.
New Phoenix Woman upstairs “Monica and the Madam!”
Oklahoma kiddo @ 123
or: absence makes the heart go wander
QuickVote:
Who’s the most patriotic?
A)Richard Perle
B)Michael Chertoff
C)Chris Matthews
D)Dick Cheney
E)Doug Feith
I don’t know jack about SoCal…
But don’t we have other pups down there?
(((Loo Hoo)))
newt, I believe burns is in the OC
Pectopah @ 132
Why only two? Or is this another of the mysteries of the American electoral system that escapes me?
new post upstairs
It should read that they dropped by 8, 5, and 2 percentage points, respectively. They actually dropped by 21%, 24%, and 18%, respectively — ie, by similar percents of their dkos support.
Ghostman @ 121
similar story here… i didn’t like that dodd voted for the iraq war and i was irked that he didn’t back feingold’s censur resolution last year.
but he’s really stepped up lately – with his committement to “get it done” on getting our troops out of iraq and on our constitution. i’m impressed… if he keeps it up, i’ll be a supporter.
but the important thing is that dodd is showing some real spine right now – and i say we show him our thanks where it most counts – with $ and our names on his petition and mailing list.
OT, but for demi- {{{DuPars}}} – I don’t live in SoCal any more (3000 miles away), but I will be there in spirit. Please send me a virtual fish taco.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 123
The Honorable Al Gore is a great American and the most accomplished and honorable – VP in our history IMHO.
LS @ 125
right now in l.a. we have this blood red sunset piercing the mass of smoke hanging over the ocean. very eerie. luck to loo hoo and all tbogg’s relatives down in san diego…
I’ll trade a President Dodd for some Republican in his Senate seat for 2 years.
At least I would know the Constitution would have someone who respects it int he White House instead of some who shreds it at every opportunity he gets.
Valley Girl,
Will do.
Also, we will be taking photos to share!
Fern @ 140
After MI moved their primary up to mid-January, all the other candidates withdrew their names from the MI vote.
rosalind @ 146
I have a poster on my wall taken from the Manhattan Beach Pier looking north at the Malibu fires in 93. The sky was as you describe and you can see the flames.
Here it is.
Half a million people evacuated in SD County alone.
Thousands of pets – cats, dogs, rabbits, horses, goats, cows, pigs – they will burn or have burned to death.
My email is kmurphy riseup net
Please shoot me an email when you are capable of empathy.
Then I can forgive your flippant observation about a mass catastrophe.
I’d go vomit about you r lack of compassion, but I’m too busy trying to help the same disaster medics who started for NOLA even before the barriers failed.
In your email, please feel free to let me know what you are doing to help.
Next time you have a supercilious response to human suffering, ask yourself what happened to your empathy and simple human decency.
Creep.
raven @ 131
kirk murphy @ 151
kirk, imo you are misinterpreting raven’s response. I read his comment as celebrating the fact that FDLers try to keep up with each other, and offer encouragement in dire times.
Kirk,
Please keep sharing whatever info you can.
Listening in horror here in PA. All thoughts with you and those caught up. All life!
kirk murphy @ 151
You have mail.
raven, was my call on the money?
Valley Girl @ 152
Thanks but actually surprised at the idea that there was little or no coverage.
I was reacting to this: “Right now, I am very frustrated that there is no current coverage of this massive catastrophe…”
raven @ 156
raven- little or no coverage where? not clear about that.
Raven , if I have misunderstood, I do apologize.
If I did not misunderstand, I don’t.
Valley Girl @ 157
I posted my comment without including the post I was commenting on. I didn’t realize there would be 5 posts between them.
kirk murphy @ 158
kirk, well, let’s have a cat brush bet about that. I don’t know what raven said to you in email. but I just read what he said about there not being more MSM coverage (I assume that is what he meant). both of us live 3000 miles away, and I don’t watch TV, so I don’t know what the coverage has been like here, where I am.
But, I trust that the situation is dire, and awful. Remember, I am from CA, so I know that much.
Good job, Chris!
Now, with success, comes responsiblity. :o)
On your campaign site, you support “complete re-deployment of troops by April 30, 2008.”
WITH “three narrowly targeted exceptions”:
The protection of U.S. personnel and infrastructure…
Specific counter-terrorism operations…
AND ASSISTANCE WITH THE TRAINING AND EQUIPPING OF IRAQI FORCES…
My caps on that last one, because, as we know, the devil is in the details. :o)
It’s painfully obvious that without LARGE numbers of troops to patrol and CONtrol the areas of Baghdad adjacent to The Green Zone, it’s almost certain to become the world’s largest Mortar Training Range. What do you plan to do about that?
There are four HUGE military bases that have been constructed in Iraq to support the military occupation of the country. Will you continue to keep U.S. troops in them, or will you turn them over to the Iraqi government?
When you speak of “complete redeployment”, does that mean that you would consider “re-deploying” troops to the Kurdish-dominated provinces, to take advantage of the Kurdish offer of good basing opportunities there, or would you consider that as keeping them in Iraq?
If the militias/warlords/politicians take control of Basra Province and its adjacent areas, with that 80% of Iraq’s proven reserves, refuse to send the “central government” their “share” of the revenues, but instead, keep it all themselves, would you aid the “central government” if it mounts military operations against whatever group controls Basra?
In fact, if they just flatly secede, and declare themselves independent from what used to be Iraq, will you allow that to happen?
Just askin’… :o)
Raven I just saw your thoughtful email to me and I unreservedly apologize for my response and my failure to comprehend.
My bad.
raven @ 159
raven, can you clarify? I went back and scanned the thread. Was your comment actually a response to the CA disasters, or in response to how little coverage Dodd had gotten?
Comments fly fast, and whatever your meaning, it is easy to see how a misunderstanding might have occurred. It has certainly happened to me.
kirk murphy @ 162
KIrk, obviously I didn’t see raven’s email, but I had the sense that there was some misunderstanding afoot, bec. raven would not make light of the situation in SoCal.
Thanks for being a gent, and apologising, whatever the misunderstanding may have been.
kirk murphy @ 162
No need. I can see how, especially since my comment did not follow the one I was commenting on, it would be easy to react the way you did. Thanks. You too Valley Girl.
Kirk.
When you have chances, please let us know?
I’ll be checking the ends of threads when I can. Appreciate it.
uhhh….VG…where should I send the cat brush.
Raven, thanks for your gracious response to my
egregiousblatant mistake.kirk murphy @ 167
hehe…. Kirk, keep your sense of humor. You may need that to help you stay sane. And, you may keep the cat brush. For now. ;)
Well, I just got the opportunity to witness three compassionate people, each with immense capacities display what real human beings are made of. Thank you, Valley Girl, raven and kirk. A privilege for sure.
David W. Bartoo @ 169
Lurkily, I second that emotion.
I feel a little guilty to be asking this , but things like this NEED to be asked:
“Sen. Dodd, what makes you think any central government can survive in what used to be Iraq,
without the presence of our military there to ensure it?”
“And if, in the process of re-deploying our troops, the central government collapses and chaos follows, will you continue re-deploying regardless, or will you re-re-deploy, in the effort to stop it?”
Before anyone accuses me of wanting to sustain the shitmire, let me say that I, too, think we have to get out, and get out at least in the same time-frame that Sen. Dodd is talking about, and, regardless of what the Iraqis, themselves, do or don’t do, to each other.
It’s just that I think the realities of leaving Iraq need to be openly discussed by EVERYONE, because if the things that I think are going to happen, DO happen, the republicans will be shreiking their heads off about OUR “losing Iraq”.
I dearly hope that ALL of the democratic candidates would issue a co-operative statement of:
“Hey! Continuing with Colin Powell’s warning, you assholes broke it; YOU fix it. And BEFORE the next administration takes office.”
And that, miracle of miracles, SOME moderator of the repubican debates would ask all of THEM if they feel that george bush and his administration have the responsiblity to end the occupation BEFORE they leave office, instead of dumping it on the next administration.
Laura Doty @ 170
You know I read somewhere that the Chinese symbol for crisis and opportunity are NOT the same. Seems like maybe they are.
Laura Doty @ 170
Third.
David and Laura, I don’t really think I deserve any kudos for displaying my capacity for misunderstanding and then flyin’ off the handle… :)
Sweets, we all do at times. But grownups keep talking and work it out. Just as you all did.
Should be headlines:
LEADER SITED IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
First time in 7 years.
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kirk murphy @ 174
***hug***
I love what Chris Dodd is doing to protect our Constitution. He needs to be supported in his efforts to protect the civil liberties of all Americans (unlike my old Yale roommate, Joe Lieberman, who would sell his own soul and our children’s bodies to the Republican fascistas).
That said, I still like John Edwards for President — see his interview with Bill Maher –http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/ . Sad too say, I find Dodd too dour for my taste. His policies are great, but …my politics are probably closer to Dennis Kucinich, but he doesn’t stand a chance because he looks too much like Alfred E. Neumann. I plead guilty (if he was as “hot looking” as his wife, the man would leading by a mile).
Al Gore lost in 2000 because he was a “wooden” candidate who looked like he had a 10-foot pole up his ass. No matter that he actually “won”, people didn’t have sympathy for him. Let’s face it, the American electorate is the most superficial on this earth.
I like Chris Dodd, but he’s no Russ Feingold (who if he weren’t Jewish and had the “fire in his belly”) would be the best President we could hope for now.
perris @ 10
That was an on-line poll by Zogby. Terrible methodology IMO. You have to register on the site to participate in the poll and then they contact you by internet. So what that is easuring is IN THE OPINION OF THOSE WHO READ ZOGBY POLLS (and bother to register)b Hillary has the lowest approval levels.
Those people would be those intently interested in politics, and very likely already fixed in their opinions, and perhaps involved in Campaigns. They are not members of the larger public, and likely don’t mirror the average voter in any way!
Take no prisoners Mr Dodd. In defense of this Constitution and the rights it secures for “all men,” is not expendable. The people abusing and misusing , the excutive branch and its awseome powers are expendable and should be in jail.
No immunity for telecoms…….
No immunity for government officials…….
No bad law under the color of law
Throw Cheney’s billigerent ass in Jail
Compel Colin POwell to Testify before Congress.
These bastards in the wake of 911 took our inheherent trust and desire to hold those for 911 responsible, and shoved it right up our collective asses while Americans die for the remnants of Standard Oil and the war machine turns a healthy profit. The entire scenario is gross and enabled by inaction, lack of protest and dissent by the MSM, who supported this crap like a nazi propoganda machine. Little birdie says… “It the economy stupid,” yes, “the price of gas!!!!”
BTW, Isreal can take care of itself “if” the Iranians develop Nukes. Lets see the “evidence” Cheney as your war mantra continues…………..
It’s between Kucinich & Dodd for me. I’ll vote for anyone who has the US Constitution on his or her mind and who will plow forward with the American people on their shoulder! I don’t get the feeling from the top 3 candidates that they truly care about what has happened over the past seven years. Two have the power now to make change and aren’t with their votes. The other one rubs me the wrong way, even though he was the VP under Kerry.
Dodd is speaking my language right now. Don’t stop!
Rockefellered