<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Bush Dog Go Home</title>
	<atom:link href="http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/</link>
	<description>Firedoglake weblog</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:07:47 -0600</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050407</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050407</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1050354&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 83&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We talk about Bush dogs. What about “off the table Nancy”? Does the speaker then qualify as a Bush dog?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think so.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just feel she’s being held in check and pushed around by the Blue Dogs, led by Hoyer &amp; Emanuel. With a little more help she might turn the table and do great things again. I hope she finds such ‘help’ among her Progressive peers in the House.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re certainly doing our best ‘out here’ to get some more Progressive folks into the House to help her.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1050354"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 83</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>We talk about Bush dogs. What about “off the table Nancy”? Does the speaker then qualify as a Bush dog?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I don’t think so.</p>
<p>I just feel she’s being held in check and pushed around by the Blue Dogs, led by Hoyer &amp; Emanuel. With a little more help she might turn the table and do great things again. I hope she finds such ‘help’ among her Progressive peers in the House.</p>
<p>We’re certainly doing our best ‘out here’ to get some more Progressive folks into the House to help her.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050404</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050404</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1050303&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jayt @ 38&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Serious question:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My mother, a life-long Republican, renounced her Republicanism at last year’s Easter dinner.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, however, her new cause is to be anti-illegal immigrants. …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How do I convince her that brown people aren’t going to ruin her world …?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can’t generally change someone’s mind about things like that. If someone honestly wants to know the truth, then you might inform them. But, when someone WANTS to believe what they believe, then new information is irrelevant.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d suggest calling her to a higher standard. Ask her what the Christian (if she is) standard of behavior should be? Would Jesus rebuke someone because of their skin color? Ask her if the American ideal is to have killed all the native Americans, so that ONLY white Caucasian European descendants can live here or should America be open to everybody from around the world who values Liberty and Democracy?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It might not be possible to dissuade her from her position, but it’s better to try to raise her standards than to try and convince her of something she’s already disregarded as stupid or evil.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1050303"><em>jayt @ 38</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Serious question:</p>
<p>My mother, a life-long Republican, renounced her Republicanism at last year’s Easter dinner.</p>
<p>Now, however, her new cause is to be anti-illegal immigrants. …</p>
<p>How do I convince her that brown people aren’t going to ruin her world …?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>You can’t generally change someone’s mind about things like that. If someone honestly wants to know the truth, then you might inform them. But, when someone WANTS to believe what they believe, then new information is irrelevant.</p>
<p>I’d suggest calling her to a higher standard. Ask her what the Christian (if she is) standard of behavior should be? Would Jesus rebuke someone because of their skin color? Ask her if the American ideal is to have killed all the native Americans, so that ONLY white Caucasian European descendants can live here or should America be open to everybody from around the world who values Liberty and Democracy?</p>
<p>It might not be possible to dissuade her from her position, but it’s better to try to raise her standards than to try and convince her of something she’s already disregarded as stupid or evil.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050396</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050396</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1050286&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;P J Evans @ 27&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Hillary saying all options are on the table.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Slow learner, isn’t she?&lt;br /&gt;
…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I heard she failed her bar exam the first time she took it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, despite being slow she also takes abuse well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1050286"><em>P J Evans @ 27</em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote>Hillary saying all options are on the table.</p></blockquote>
<p>Slow learner, isn’t she?<br />
…</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I heard she failed her bar exam the first time she took it.</p>
<p>But, despite being slow she also takes abuse well.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050387</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050387</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;pups, if any of you have Lexis/Nexis, after the 2003 Cedars Fire several official post-mortems (literally) cited SD County’s political decision NOT to provide the County Fire services offered in analogous SoCal counties as a cause of the County’s failure to provide optimal response.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe there may even have been a (civil) grand jury report.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If anyone can find refences and sen them to me at kmurphy riseup net ,I ‘d be grateful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Coming in the heartland of CA Gooper greedland, this conflagration is the most incindiary (sp?)indictment possible of the Club For Growth, the GOP, Cunnginham/Wilkes and “drown it in a bathtub”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m too devastated to write a front page post, but I’ll make the results of your research (with attribution) available to other FDL contributors.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pups, if any of you have Lexis/Nexis, after the 2003 Cedars Fire several official post-mortems (literally) cited SD County’s political decision NOT to provide the County Fire services offered in analogous SoCal counties as a cause of the County’s failure to provide optimal response.</p>
<p>I believe there may even have been a (civil) grand jury report.</p>
<p>If anyone can find refences and sen them to me at kmurphy riseup net ,I ‘d be grateful.</p>
<p>Coming in the heartland of CA Gooper greedland, this conflagration is the most incindiary (sp?)indictment possible of the Club For Growth, the GOP, Cunnginham/Wilkes and “drown it in a bathtub”.</p>
<p>I’m too devastated to write a front page post, but I’ll make the results of your research (with attribution) available to other FDL contributors.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050380</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050380</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Katymine, I’ve wondered about the Bloodwater compound.  I’ve wanted to see it out of there, but not this way.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katymine, I’ve wondered about the Bloodwater compound.  I’ve wanted to see it out of there, but not this way.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: katymine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050377</link>
		<dc:creator>katymine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050377</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kirk… I heard on the radio that the SD Blackwater compound was on fire any truth in that?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk… I heard on the radio that the SD Blackwater compound was on fire any truth in that?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: neokneme</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050376</link>
		<dc:creator>neokneme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050376</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here’s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr3qJ0racd0&quot;&gt;promo video&lt;/a&gt; for the “counter-personnel directed energy weapon”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://nasatech.com/Surveys/IQ/insider.php&quot;&gt;poll&lt;/a&gt; that will be used to justify the deployment.  It is an industry-friendly poll, btw.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr3qJ0racd0">promo video</a> for the “counter-personnel directed energy weapon”.</p>
<p>Here’s the <a href="http://nasatech.com/Surveys/IQ/insider.php">poll</a> that will be used to justify the deployment.  It is an industry-friendly poll, btw.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: David W. Bartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050373</link>
		<dc:creator>David W. Bartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050373</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;kirk,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep us informed.  Really enjoyed your last post.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kirk,</p>
<p>Keep us informed.  Really enjoyed your last post.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050372</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050372</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;
oh crap - sorry for bolding error&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>
oh crap &#8211; sorry for bolding error</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050369</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/22/bush-dog-go-home/#comment-1050369</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Folks, the SD conflagration is California’s Katrina.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Four years ago the Cedars fire scorched SD County - and the County’s insufficient spending for the publ;ic sector was a chief cause of the inadequate response.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No one in SD is (directly) responsible for the Santa Anas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SD County leaders are wholly responsible for elevating their “small government” religious cult into a lethal unilateral disarmament in the face of certain danger.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh - the SD County political structure?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rethugs.  Pro-”Defense” and anti “Big-Government”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So anti that local government is incapable of defending the people.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SoCal natives (especially SD natives know)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Santa Ana winds and the fires they bring start every October.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This year’s drought = massive fuels in hills/mountains.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In densely populated SoCal, mass evacuations are impossible.  The road&lt;br /&gt;
grid - built to maximum density - won’t handle even regular commutes&lt;br /&gt;
without jamming.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Firefighters in SD know:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not enough resources to do the job.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The conflagrations have been anticipated for years.  Prop 13 - and the&lt;br /&gt;
railroad and real estate interests that funded it and the Gann/Jarvis&lt;br /&gt;
wackos  who kept trashing California’s public sector - are the Rethugs’&lt;br /&gt;
creatures.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hope to see the Rethugs necklaced with this catastrophe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Metaphorically, of course.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strike&gt;250,000 evacuated as of noon (4 hrs ago) in SD County.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/strike&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Oops - breaking - now 500,000 as of 7 min ago…&lt;b&gt;doubled in &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;North San Diego County fire could race to ocean&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;San Diego Fire and Rescue Battalion Chief John Tomson, 57, on duty in&lt;br /&gt;
Rancho Bernardo in northern San Diego County, said that if the winds don’t&lt;br /&gt;
die down, the fire could easily reach the coast.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“It’s the Cedar fire all over again,” said Tomson, a 30-year firefighter.&lt;br /&gt;
“We’re not going to stop it. I don’t have any idea even where it is&lt;br /&gt;
anymore. I’m not sure anybody knows where it is anymore.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tomson began at 1 a.m. with a crew of 20 in the Bandy Canyon area&lt;br /&gt;
northeast of Poway. Over the next 12 hours, the crew grew to 80 as it&lt;br /&gt;
chased the fire westward nearly 20 miles along Highland Valley Drive to&lt;br /&gt;
Rancho Bernardo. Along the way, the firefighters tried to keep the flames&lt;br /&gt;
from blowing through several residential areas, to no avail.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shortly before noon today, they received a call that two apartments were&lt;br /&gt;
ablaze at the La Terraza Apartment Villas in Rancho Bernardo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Now we’ve lost 10 buildings,” Tomson said at 12:30 p.m. A new column of&lt;br /&gt;
thick smoke erupted over another building. “Here it comes again,” he said.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Behind Tomson, a group of firefighters trained their hoses on the new&lt;br /&gt;
flames, as about a dozen others, their faces covered in black soot, slept&lt;br /&gt;
on the curb. Most had been chasing the flames for 29 hours. &lt;b&gt;Most&lt;br /&gt;
firefighters say there are not enough of them in San Diego County to fight&lt;br /&gt;
the blaze.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1050352&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;HumboldtBlue @ 81&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Folks, don’t forget to send TBogg (and Gavin from SadlyNo as well) some love. The fires in San Diego and SoCal are fierce and getting fiercer. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The evacuations in San Diego are staggering. Latest report from the state OES is that more than 10K have gathered at QualComm stadium (home of the Chargers) for temporary refuge.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, the SD conflagration is California’s Katrina.</p>
<p>Four years ago the Cedars fire scorched SD County &#8211; and the County’s insufficient spending for the publ;ic sector was a chief cause of the inadequate response.</p>
<p>No one in SD is (directly) responsible for the Santa Anas.</p>
<p>SD County leaders are wholly responsible for elevating their “small government” religious cult into a lethal unilateral disarmament in the face of certain danger.</p>
<p>Oh &#8211; the SD County political structure?</p>
<p>Rethugs.  Pro-”Defense” and anti “Big-Government”</p>
<p>So anti that local government is incapable of defending the people.</p>
<p>SoCal natives (especially SD natives know)</p>
<p>Santa Ana winds and the fires they bring start every October.</p>
<p>This year’s drought = massive fuels in hills/mountains.</p>
<p>In densely populated SoCal, mass evacuations are impossible.  The road<br />
grid &#8211; built to maximum density &#8211; won’t handle even regular commutes<br />
without jamming.</p>
<p>Firefighters in SD know:</p>
<p>Not enough resources to do the job.</p>
<p>The conflagrations have been anticipated for years.  Prop 13 &#8211; and the<br />
railroad and real estate interests that funded it and the Gann/Jarvis<br />
wackos  who kept trashing California’s public sector &#8211; are the Rethugs’<br />
creatures.</p>
<p>Hope to see the Rethugs necklaced with this catastrophe.</p>
<p>Metaphorically, of course.</p>
<p><strike>250,000 evacuated as of noon (4 hrs ago) in SD County.<br />
</strike><br />
Oops &#8211; breaking &#8211; now 500,000 as of 7 min ago…<b>doubled in </b></p>
<p>North San Diego County fire could race to ocean</p>
<p>San Diego Fire and Rescue Battalion Chief John Tomson, 57, on duty in<br />
Rancho Bernardo in northern San Diego County, said that if the winds don’t<br />
die down, the fire could easily reach the coast.</p>
<p>“It’s the Cedar fire all over again,” said Tomson, a 30-year firefighter.<br />
“We’re not going to stop it. I don’t have any idea even where it is<br />
anymore. I’m not sure anybody knows where it is anymore.”</p>
<p>Tomson began at 1 a.m. with a crew of 20 in the Bandy Canyon area<br />
northeast of Poway. Over the next 12 hours, the crew grew to 80 as it<br />
chased the fire westward nearly 20 miles along Highland Valley Drive to<br />
Rancho Bernardo. Along the way, the firefighters tried to keep the flames<br />
from blowing through several residential areas, to no avail.</p>
<p>Shortly before noon today, they received a call that two apartments were<br />
ablaze at the La Terraza Apartment Villas in Rancho Bernardo.</p>
<p>“Now we’ve lost 10 buildings,” Tomson said at 12:30 p.m. A new column of<br />
thick smoke erupted over another building. “Here it comes again,” he said.</p>
<p>Behind Tomson, a group of firefighters trained their hoses on the new<br />
flames, as about a dozen others, their faces covered in black soot, slept<br />
on the curb. Most had been chasing the flames for 29 hours. <b>Most<br />
firefighters say there are not enough of them in San Diego County to fight<br />
the blaze.</b></p>
<p><a href="#comment-1050352"><em>HumboldtBlue @ 81</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Folks, don’t forget to send TBogg (and Gavin from SadlyNo as well) some love. The fires in San Diego and SoCal are fierce and getting fiercer. </p>
<p>The evacuations in San Diego are staggering. Latest report from the state OES is that more than 10K have gathered at QualComm stadium (home of the Chargers) for temporary refuge.</p>
</blockquote>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
