America is THE battleground. If IT can’t be ’saved’ here, then there will be no safe place ANYWHERE! The question really is, ‘How much ‘faith’ do we have in ourselves?’

Our fate lies with the people. The ‘people’ of the entire world. But whatever hope there might be, for our collective, humane and just survival, must start HERE.

Sorry to be so pessimistic, but if we cannot or will not develop a ‘vision’ built upon the principles we claim to cherish and the premise of decent lives for all peoples and effectively share that vision, first here, at home, and then around the world, then SanderO’s scenario @ 93 is our fate.

I agree and that’s why I believe this particular Democratic primary is so important. The ramifications go far beyond who the individual is that will become our next president.

Ledeen is pushing the theory that Iran is so weak that the nation will collapse and turn into Sweden once the US drops a bomb on an aspirin factory.
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What, we don’t get flowers this time? Last time we were supposed to get flowers for freeing Iraqis from Saddam. Least they could do is sell us 5 rugs for 5 dollars. Ungrateful Iranians. Why wouldn’t they give us something for bombing them to Hell?

Dick Cheney will not like this.

Prairie Sunshine @ 32

Dodd = Conscience of the Senate Congress.

hey – don’t forget holt!

just think how frustrated you are about how dodd’s hold and reid’s apparent undermining of dodd is not being covered in the corporate press.,,, i guess that’s how i feel about how holt’s work (and the house leadership’s fucking him over) is not being covered even in progressive blogs.

Rush Holt’s bill on Electronic Voting Machines started good and then was corrupted. If he could get that straightened-out and passed then I would be very impressed. But, at the moment I only know mostly of his handling of that (imperfect work).

However, he has been on my radar and if he keeps up the good work it wouldn’t be out of the question for us Progressives to be considering him as a good replacement for either Emanuel or Hoyer. It just takes time and a good record.

So in addition to Plame, there was any other operative using the company as cover and the same investigation went on for all of those people to.

But look at what we are trying to do?

Make calls and donate to candidates? Give them money?

This is insane.

We need to strike and then demand serious changes or no work gets done.

This revolution does not have to kill people, but stomp out wrong headed ideas.

We won’t do it though. We’re as good as toast.

Perhaps Lenin had a point or two…at least in theory.

America is THE battleground. If IT can’t be ’saved’ here, then there will be no safe place ANYWHERE! The question really is, ‘How much ‘faith’ do we have in ourselves?’

Our fate lies with the people. The ‘people’ of the entire world. But whatever hope there might be, for our collective, humane and just survival, must start HERE.

Sorry to be so pessimistic, but if we cannot or will not develop a ‘vision’ built upon the principles we claim to cherish and the premise of decent lives for all peoples and effectively share that vision, first here, at home, and then around the world, then SanderO’s scenario @ 93 is our fate.

I agree wholeheartedly, David. If democracy doesn’t survive here, it won’t last long anywhere.

After all, as Americans we’ve been raised and nurtured on democratic principles for generations now. Given our heritage, if we still can’t manage to hold on to our Constitution, I don’t hold out much hope of democracy surviving in any other country for any great length of time. Indeed, I fear a domino effect in which democracy perishes from the Earth for decades–possibly for as long as it did following its failure in Ancient Greece. That’s why we must win the battle here.

Elliott @ 94

details!

I mean OOPS
Rockefeller and the telecoms

Leahy stomps back “they know it was illegal conduct, that is why they are applying so much pressure”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..fisa-cave/

I guess what John Dean said the other day is spot on about Rockefeller. Dean said that Rockefeller is not much better than Senator Pat Roberts as head of the Intel Committee. Wonder why I thought differently
about Rockefeller? I guess just hanging onto threads of hope.

These bastards are selling out the “Constitution.” Congress is enabling the Executive to eviscerate the restrictions and limits placed on government by America’s founders. Corpogovernemnt, and the protection of America.

“The act of war is the last option of a democracy, taken when there is a grave threat to our national security. More than 200 American soldiers have lost their lives in Iraq already. We have a duty to ensure that their sacrifice came for the right reasons?” None want to answer that ?

Joe Wilson’s OPED, “What I Did Not Find In Africa,” http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0706-02.htm

Then the Plame Case!!!

Well knowing what we know now about “the intentional fabrication of intelligence,” can inaction be justified? Taking a hard look at all the “facts” and an undistorted view of history!! Now, using national security and executive privilege to obstruct judicial review and constitutional accountability is over the top and a threat to liberty everywhere, for where the rule of law ends, tyranny begins. Now immunity for telecoms who aided potential illegal “gathering” by the Excutive. Ignorance of the law is no excuse TELCOMS…. It is kind of like a German soldier, who follows an “illegal” order by a superior. Telecom…. “we claim ignorance od the constitution.” It did not work for germans it should not work for the telecoms.
“CORPOGOVERNMENT” Jefferson’s worst fears……..