"Republicans believe that life begins at conception and ends at birth." (Rep. Barney Frank)
"Nnnnnggghhhh...." (Terri Schiavo)
Folks, it's time we did away with one of the strangely persistent myths about the Republican Party. You know the one I'm talking about. Yes, that one, that Republicans are somehow the "pro-life" party. I guess they are, at least in the sense that they oppose a woman's right to control her reproductive organs and of anyone's right to die with dignity in the wake of brain-death, but in no other sense could Republican policies be construed to be"pro-life", could they? Am I missing some big part of the Right that isn't about killing people and blowing things up?
I thought that the phrase "Culture of Life" had been quietly retired to the GOP's Home for Spent Talking Points along with "CEO President" and "Stay the Course", but no, just in the last few days we've seen it revived in all its Orwellian unintended irony.
Never mind that the civilian casualty numbers in Iraq have very likely reached a million dead. Never mind that there isn't a single Right Wing policy initiative that isn't founded on some form of selfishness or cruelty. The Republicans believe that they're on the side of the angels, the guardians of "Life" in this country, and no amount of dead Iraqi children or sick and injured American children with no health care is going to change their thinking on that score.
Take for instance (please!) Susan Orr, President Bush's ultra-creepy, zombie-eyed Talibangelical appointee to head Family Planning services for the Department of Health and Human Services, which is kind of ironic, since she seems to be pretty much diametrically opposed to any form of family planning whatsoever.
- In a 2001, Orr embraced a Bush administration proposal to "stop requiring all health insurance plans for federal employees" to cover a broad range of birth control. "We're quite pleased, because fertility is not a disease," said Orr.
- At the 2001 Conservative Political Action Conference, Orr cheered Bush's endorsement of Reagan's "Mexico City Policy," which required NGOs receiving federal funds to "neither perform nor actively promote abortion as a method of family planning in other nations." Orr said that it was proof Bush was pro-life "in his heart."
- In a 2000 Weekly Standard article, Orr railed against requiring health insurance plans to cover contraceptives. "It's not about choice," said Orr. "It's not about health care. It's about making everyone collaborators with the culture of death."
Ah, yes, the Culture of Death, which is a different Culture of Death than the one that Republican policies have spawned in Iraq and Afghanistan. I assume that Orr is referring to those of us who think that the best defense against HIV is education and a condom, and that birth-control is the way to stop unwanted pregnancies, rather than passively accepting that prayer, abstinence, and unquestioning obedience to Christian dogma will fix everything. Where do they find these relics? Does the White House's HR department have a time tunnel to 1955 that they go fishing in when it's time to fill a job?
Of course, then there's Mike Huckabee, who says that people who practice safe sex protocols are morally equivalent to domestic abusers and drunk drivers:
In response to a question about whether his religious views gel with the "methods of prevention" that more AIDS funding would imply, Huckabee opined that shrink wrap only should be for sailors (via HuffPo):
"If we really are serious about stopping a problem, whether it's drunk driving ... we don't say "Don't drive ‘as drunk'?" ...This is an illogical thing that we apply to that one area that we don't apply to any other area ...We don't say that a little domestic violence is OK, just cut it down a little, just don't hit quite as hard. We say it's wrong."
How making an effort in one's sex life to minimize any possible harm to others is the same as beating someone or drunkenly slamming your car into a mini-van full of toddlers is, frankly, beyond me. I'm reaching a point where the sound of Republicans talking out of their asses is like the voice of the teachers and other adults in the "Peanuts" specials, "Wah-wah waaaaaah, wah wah-wah waaaaaaah..." Why even bother with trying to make sense of it? It's all just heinous gibberish.
Add to all this, of course, the Republicans' stand against S-CHIP and you have to wonder what, exactly, they think is an ideal society. They want to deny everyone access to any form of contraception, but then, in the event of unwanted pregnancies that may arise, there would be no legal abortions. Of course, when you have the unwanted child, you can't get health care for it unless you're wealthy or "lucky" enough to be pinned down by some mindless corporate job where you daren't leave for fear of losing your health insurance.
Do people on the Right think at all? Apparently not. They just believe. Cause and effect? What's that? Don't bore us with the facts, you stupid "Libtard", we have faith, which is basically the same as believing in magic, and that's no way to run a bake sale, let alone an entire nation.
Please, god, just let it end soon. Otherwise, we're never going to able to wash the stink off this country.
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g’evening, pups.
TRex!!!
now to read the post (after letting downstairs know)
TRex!!!
hey!
you made me spew on teri :(
now back to read.
Mighty fine post, TRex.
I am sick unto death of these people, and they call it a “culture of life.”
Excellent post.
It’s more like a culture of strife…
Holy Sanctimonious Fuckery, Batman!
Suzanne @ 7
As usual!!! I feel special today, DU has a post of mine front and center…!!! 8-)
Don’t try to puzzle out the reasoning too carefully, Trex! ‘Twill send you ’round the bend for sure…
TRex @ 11
Boy, it makes me wonder, Boy Wonder.
Good evening everyone.
It appears that our country is being run by a pack of parsimonious, small-minded, morally bankrupt shitheels. Sickening. Especially when all studies show that access to responsible, accurate education and birth control reduces abortion.
ha ha I found a typo. You said 1955 when you meant 1255
What happenned to these people that they are so bothered by the thought of adults having sex? They spend waaay too much time obsessing about it.
madmommy @ 15
Why so generous?
Hugh @ 14
Not you, Robin. They have strict licensing laws in this country. A boy of your age is not allowed in a drinking tavern
solai @ 17
When they aren’t out chasing Congressional pages or trying to score in airport bathrooms.
paulo @ 16
Wasn’t it the Philadelphia Enquirer who called Rick Santorum “one of the finest minds of the 13th century”?
http://www.case.edu/affil/skuy.....index.html
Hope this works — Museum of Contraception.
i’m cranky cuz i have a bad cold. But at least i got the zed! (considers a little victory shuffle, blows nose & coughs instead)
remember they are the party of double-speak. “Culture of Life” means they endorse a culture of death for all that disagree with them. Their interpretation of bible says children inherit sins of parents, thus children of no-good parents who make stupid decisions that lead to lack of
mob payoffshealth insurance deserve to get sick and die.TRex @ 21
707! Thanks, man, I needed that.
Excellent piece in Huffpo on this very issue.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....68950.html
Great post TRex!!
Yeah…they have faith in a bullsh*t story. All of us have BS stories in our lives everyday, and if we dwell on them and treat them as concrete reality, we end up in the twilight zone. We conjecture what is going to happen, based on what we told ourselves in our minds, often greatly embellished to our satisfaction or dissatisfaction with reality, and act accordingly. That is a problem. We miss reality, most of the time, by living all around it. What kind of judgment as to what to do is that?
EvilDrPuma @ 24
That was beautiful.
Terry Schiavo did not voluntarily ask for birth control did she?
therefore she is ‘pro life’ and wants to live.
There are no words for the level of disgust I have tonight for Harry Reid and the republicans who killed SCHIP.
I usually think OKK is a little overwrought, but tonight I don’t want to be a Democrat. I’m reaching the point where moving out of the country seems to be the only way out. It doesn’t solve the problem, but it might keep me sane.
EvilDrPuma @ 18
I am nearly out of change for the swear jar.
There are no Britney Spears stories in my daily life aside from what I read at Perez Hilton, thank you.
Does the swear jar take English coins? Got a bunch of them left over from my trip. Just in case anyone needs any…
madmommy, the secret to the swear jar is to use the same quarter over and over
LoudounLib @ 32
Is the exchange rate favorable??
madmommy @ 34
Oh hell no, it’s awful!
CTuttle @ 12
linky? pretty please?
madmommy @ 34
Heck Ya! The USD is sinking hard and fast…!!!
madmommy, actually it favors the Brits if they come over here — if we go over there, we get hosed.
TJ @ 29
France looks good, and tastes good too. They have their own problems, but I don’t speak French, so I wouldn’t understand whatever the problems are.
CTuttle @ 37
Oh well. It’s not like I have that many of them, anyway.
Suzanne @ 33
I just don’t pay. The profanity cops never seem to pick me up for it.
Republicans are the “pro-destruction” party.
masaccio @ 39
The way things have been going lately, that may be a bonus!
TRex @ 31
Ha, ha, ha…poifect!
TJ @ 29
I understand, but November 2008 is less than 13 months away. And we need to pick up 13 votes. Thanks sounds doable to me. It even sounds like a gift of 13 seats. So a picture of the 363 tons of cash (the largest transfer ever) to Iraq. Then show the Congressman who voted against S-Chip. Mention the 43 Governors who support the program. That sound like votes to me!
EvilDrPuma @ 41
Just wait ’til you get that bench warrant for “failure to pay fines and costs” ;-)
EvilDrPuma @ 41
Uh oh, now you’ve thrown down the gauntlet.
OT
(via Pam’s House Blend:)
My first instinct, empath that I am, was “What can I do to help these poor sex addicted Christian women?” The answer was simple:
I will develop a “Twelve Shtup Program.” If any of you good women need my help, please don’t hesitate to ask. My better two thirds has often praised the way I “Drill the Fear of God into her,” so I will do my best to relieve your overwhelming burdens.
Frankly, she’s been looking for a way to put me out to stud. This could solve a multitude of problems…
picking up gauntlet
Ug: “We’re quite pleased, because fertility is not a disease,”
Christianity is a disease!
LoudounLib @ 46
Fuck the rutting bench warrant.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 36
Yes’m, here’s the post, scroll down and click on home…
http://www.democraticundergrou.....15;3033905
masaccio @ 39
I hear that the train strike is a huge problem right now (or at least yesterday) — and I have parts of Euros left over. However, the cheese is so damn good we paid what ever they asked. Wine cheap and fab too.
p.s. Damn Harry Reid…
EvilDrPuma @ 51
hee hee
tw3k @ 50
No, religious fundamentalism is a disease. It is not a theological problem, it’s a psychological problem.
Nice post, Trex.
And no, i don’t think that they do think. Their faith keeps them from questioning authority or anything that exists outside their realm of “neener neener neener. La la la, I’m sticking my fingers in my ears”.
masaccio @ 39
Sounds good to me!
The Republican attitude towards sex is that it only be performed maritally for the purpose of procreation, hence no birthcontrol. If sex is to be enjoyed, they get a hooker.
pleasing the talibangelicals is very important in this phase, as they will provide the brownshirts in 2009. (don’t *think*. just have faith in the fuhrer… erm … leadership, that is, and oppress everyone critical.)
i noticed some people wondering why the bush junta is ignoring “the math” nowadays … well, i think, they did the math, realized that even an california-sized ohio sting won’t rescue them, and are opting for plan B full force. (terrorist attack between election and inauguration, inner WH circle relocates to Cheneys secret sanctum, democracy gets suspended until the rest of the world says uncle.)
when 6 nukes flew over the US lately, did someone count them after they landed ?
The pound buys $2.05. The Euro is doing great too, it takes $1.43 to buy one. In 2000, at Christmas, it only took $.95. I wish I could have bought real estate in Paris then…..
Titanyum @ 58
That still doesn’t explain all the Republican perverts.
CTuttle @ 12
We can has linky to your starring role Chikka?
tw3k @ 50
Actually Fertility CAN be a disease, if it develops into endometriosis . It’s hormonally linked and pretty much starts with the a woman’s monthly cycle. I wouldn’t wish it on anybody (i’m one of those who trudge on with it), but that woman tempts me ooooh so badly.
persiflage @ 62
See my 52!!! G’day, Persi…!!! 8-)
CT, linky no worky for me :-(
aliasofwestgate @ 63
I’m kinda curious about how many children this woman has. Also, with the barefoot and pregnant mindset of the talibangilists, how do they justify a woman such as this one taking a job that would keep her away from the cooking and the cleaning and the breeding?
LoudounLib @ 65
Worked fine for me.
EvilDrPuma @ 67
Here’s what I got:
Invalid Input Parameter
The information you requested cannot be displayed one or more input parameters has invalid syntax.
If you have any questions, please contact the site administrator.
CTuttle @ 52
linky no workee ;-(
tw3k @ 50
This would be a suprise to the patients I send for food and health care to St Anthony’s in SF -
and to the respected activists in Catholic Worker.
If we re-worded the statement:
“Buddhism is a disease”
“Judaism is a disease”
“Islam” is a disease
would it be any less objectionable?
Nope.
Religious intolerance is what teh wingers push - part of their war on the Enlightenment.
Pray, let us not not join them.
*g*
madmommy @ 66
Wonder why they aren’t condemning Condi?
masaccio @ 60
A few years back my mother called with the news that she won $10,000 at a Canadian casino. That became $6000 American. Had we known how devalued the dollar would become, we would have had her hang on to the Canadian money for a few years.
LoudounLib @ 65
Hmmm… Try this…
http://www.democraticundergrou.....15;3033905
ll, try clearing your cache and try the link again.. its working fine for backstage too
kirk murphy @ 70
Kirk, thank you for being much more blunt than I was.
masaccio @ 60
Being there last month, every day the dollar sunk lower and lower — it was so sad. Needless to say, my only souveniers were postcards.
CTuttle @ 64
G’day mate! Yep, saw your 52, which wasn’t there when I started typing my question. I guess we passed each other in the toobs.
EvilDrPuma @ 71
No one can twist themselves into a Gordian knot to justify a contrary position like a fundamentalist.
madmommy @ 15
Amen.
EvilDrPuma @ 67
Some fuckery is afoot…!!!
CT, got it that time, thanks — reading :-)
solai @ 17
Jealousy. Plain and simple. It’s The Revenge of the Boys That No Girl Would Sleep With.
madmommy @ 77
It’s funny how religious fundamentalists object to evolution. They act a lot more like chimpanzees than the people here do.
the link works fine in firefox but does not work on safari
Suzanne @ 73
Am I two-timing, Ma Cheri…??? ;-)
I have no clue really. More cognitive dissonance. The only things pretty much helping me keep a job are judicious use of medications and hormonal management via Birth Control Pills. There’s very few treatments for Endo, and most all of it entails bringing on artificial menopause. Pregancy only abates it for the term of the pregancy and the pain returns like a bad penny. Of course, i’ve got no kids and at 30? Too young to have that plumbing yanked out. *shrugs*
But i’m the anaethma(sp?) to the barefoot and pregant thing. I have no qualms about others choosing it, but i refuse to have it forced on me. We carry Plan B at our pharmacy and any floating pharmacist that works at our store? Has to contend with the fact that the female staff will HAVE their birth control or they get run out of town. (that’s if the sheer volume of work doesn’t scare ‘em off first!)
Sorry..i’ll stop ranting…^_^;;
EvilDrPuma @ 82
I read somewhere that chimps like sex. A lot. Without consideration to gender. I think the chimps are more evolved.
madmommy @ 34
Very. Nine curses to the pound.
EDP:
The more rigid a Republican’s attitude towards sex is, the more fertile he/she is to perversion.
aliasofwestgate @ 85
Please, Alias, you’re on a roll…!!! Aloha!!!
Good evening dear friends.
TRex, there are a very very small number of people who are consistent in their pro-life positions — no abortion, no war, no assisted suicide, no death penalty. I don’t believe that any of these are members of Congress. Far more hypocrites in those positions.
aliasofwestgate @ 85
I suffer from endo as well, it is no fun. I am just continually amazed at how these loons will spout off on one hand about making the government smaller, then turn right around and insist that the government stick their nose into the most private parts of our lives.
madmommy @ 86
That’s bonobos (sometimes, but erroneously, called “pygmy chimpanzees”–they really are a separate species).
madmommy @ 91
Now there’s a talking point. “The Republicans want to turn police officers into peeping toms.” (Or is that the other way around?)
EvilDrPuma @ 92
Thanks for the clarification, I had read it recently but the article was talking about chimps, bonobos and other primates.
EvilDrPuma @ 55
That too!
kirk murphy @ 70
Amen.
Those folks may think they are Christians, but I suspect that Christ would take a different view.
Has Loo Hoo been around this evening? I missed out on wishing her a happy birthday.
tw3k, I sure hope I don’t seem to picking on you - that is not my desire or intent.
Your comment is one of many (other commenters’) remarks here bashing Christianity en masse (or in Mass, as it were).
I was raised in mainstream Christian churches…and watched Dobson’s political ideology pull perfectly rational tolerant Christians into “Focus on the Family’s” political hate speech.
Dobson, Falwell and the like became the public face of American Christianity - I understand why those who (as I do) loathe their authoritarian political views would despise them so much as to despise the faith they purport to represent.
But those creeps defile Christ’s teaching - just as Bin Laden defiles the Prophet’s teaching and the poticial movement known as Z*ionism defiles Judaism.
Here at the Lake I hope we can despise the fundamentalists’ views, “values”, and politics without disrespecting the faiths they distort.
Yeah. Much less the meddling insurances that refuse to cover the cost of birth control. I think the main reason our insurance is at least decent at work is because we ARE pharmacy workers. There’s a lot we can demand just because we dispense the product. I’d rather be up and well than knocked down with pain.
madmommy,
Have you found that treating the inflammation first, along with the pain helps things along? Between that and finding the right BCP i seem to be doing alright. At least up until the next random flare up from pushing myself too hard.
Thing are pretty dismal, however, it took the wackos 67 years to get control. From 1933 to Reagan they pretty much got the shit kicked out of them. If we throw in the towel after seven years, maybe we are on the wrong side of history. My goal is to hurt them really bad in Nov, ‘08. If we loose that one; maybe NZ would be nice.
The fundies like to keep sex in the family.
TexBetsy @ 90
Heh, I’m three of four… I hate the War and the Death penalty, and, I believe Abortion should be a last resort… I do believe assisted suicide should be available to the individuals that would otherwise be forced to live by machine or in extreme duress…!!!
New Zealand?
Heading out.
See you kids in a bit.
kirk murphy @ 98
Extremism, in any faith, is generally never a good thing. There are many people who truly walk the walk daily, and draw no attention to themselves. I prefer to look at Dobson and his cronies as the people who pray loudly on street corners so as to make a show of their faith, when in point of fact the are nothing but a hollow shell. Sadly, many of these so-called leaders of faith have gotten so far away from the teachings of Christ that they are no longer on the same planet, let alone the same universe.
aliasofwestgate @ 63
Ouch! I hadn’t heard of endometriosis. I’m sorry.
TexBetsy @ 91
TRex, you don’t agree with a woman’s right to have an abortion? I’m surprised by that.
solai @ 107
That’s not what Betsy was saying.
I’ll believe that fundies give a damn about abortion when I hear that they’re making incubators to finish developing aborted fetuses (fetii?).
demi @ 104
You have something against sheep?
kirk murphy @ 70
Kirk, it’s rather hard when one is a Baha’i…!!! *g*
Madmom & Alias — So sorry about the endo. I hear it’s a bear to deal with. When I was on the pill I never had an insurance company pay for it. I was on it for many years.
solai, i think you read trex’s comment wrong. no where did he say that. tex and ct were talking about the difference between pro life in all things and the psuedo pro-life anti abortion types
aliasofwestgate @ 99
Mine is relatively low grade, from some of the horror stories I have read and heard. Basically the hormones and anti-inflamatories make life bearable. Still, I can get a bit bitchy.
EvilDrPuma @ 82
I’d like to think the Lake is more of a bonobo thing.
solai @ 108
I’m pretty certain you misunderstood. Betsy was addressing TRex with a purely descriptive statement about “some people.” Not attributing those views to TRex.
It’s okay tw3k. *grins* I’m too stubborn to let it win at this point. Or i’d not still be working. It’s interfered with my hope of getting second degree but its not like i can’t eventually go back again.
madmommy @ 98
Hello!
Steve-AR @ 111
No, they’re not too baaaaaaaaad, but I hear that they stink.
I’d live with the smell if we do loose in 08, though.
kirk murphy @ 115
Well, even Late Nite threads usually don’t end up in an orgy. (At least, not until after I’ve gone to bed.)
I stand corrected.
demi @ 119
Woolite
CT, catching up, was off doing stuff — nice post at DU!
Can someone explain how Admiral Mullen, the new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, managed to graduate from Annapolis? It seems clear that third-grade arithmetic is a challenge that he’s not up to.
http://my.earthlink.net/articl.....8699081713
solai @ 122
I am not anti-abortion Solai. But I am anti-war and anti-death penalty.
Loo Hoo. @ 118
Happy belated birthday to you! I went back and read comments the morning after your big day and we were like ships passing. Hope you had a wonderful day!
TRex, I read you every day and have done for several years. This was so very good. So simple. So true. Thank you.
I’ve heard of others living on per*o*et among other high grade painkillers just to get the edge off. I think we’re both lucky. AND i caught mine before it could get worse. I’ve got some knowledge on how to treat the symptoms thanks to being in my particular workplace but it still means working quite closely with my Ob/Gyn and my primary Doc.
I limit myself to low level narcotics and that’s only if i have nowhere to be when i take ‘em. The side effects from those are worse than the pain sometimes! So control is sooo essential–and listening to your body’s cues.
LoudounLib @ 123
Mahalo, LL!!!
thanks burns!
owchee. gentle hugs for the endometriosis sufferers. My girl cousin closest in age to me has suffered terribly for years.
katecontinued @ 128
Hi Katecontinued. So glad you jumped in to comment.
EvilDrPuma @ 120
demi @ 119
I have a good friend who moved here from NZ, by way of Saudi Arabia. She and hubby are seriously thinking about going back.
EvilDrPuma @ 121
dang! the things i miss because i’m too old ‘n tired to stay up and party like i used to ;~)
Alias, I do a lot with heat and cold and massage for pain control. Also non-narcotic anti-inflam’s like traumeel and arnica. You may want to look into that.
TJ @ 134
Late Nite orgy=reading porn on the internet.
katecontinued - welcome!
No going back now.
Any docs out there know if endo is anyhow related to MD? A former co-worker had bad endo and was later diagnosed with MD.
Here’s a no-brainer:
Indigenous People Make Best Forest Custodians
Marwaan Macan-Markar for Inter Press Service reports that “The millions of indigenous people living across Asia and the Pacific are finally gaining recognition for the key role they play in forest conservation.”
katecontinued-
The lake is addictive. I think it may be something in the water.
Woohoo, My Bosox are still alive and headed back to Fenway for Game 6!!! 7-1 Boston…!!!
TexBetsy,
That sounds tough. Is this an arthritic condition you have?
:: does a happy dance with CT ::
CTuttle @ 142
And you’ve got a day off to let those fingernails grow back.
madmommy @ 145
I still have my toenails…!!! *g*
This is a week old, but quite relevant:
http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/101207WA.shtml
btw, CT, link didn’t work in either Safari or FireFox. I’m sure i missed another pup’s stellar performance, but i’m not gonna deal with browsers anymore when cranky from head-cold.
CTuttle @ 146
EEEWWWWW!
Blub @ 144
I have a neuro-muscular condition and a number of issues with my spine.
kirk murphy @ 70
:)
I know it was an ignorant comment.
I have little respect for religion and in many way charity is only an attempt to spread the disease.
People can be just as humane without.
So, my apologies for any offense to anyone. I’ll stay away from the topic.
Think Progress has some news on this topic:
We are deeply disappointed that the Bush Administration, for the second time, has chosen a politically polarizing and unqualified candidate for this appointment. Much like Dr. Eric Keroack, Dr. Orr’s professional background demonstrates an intention by this Administration to undercut the value and importance of family planning services to low-income and uninsured men and women.
TexBetsy @ 137
I’m on a particularly strong non narc NSAID right now. It’s usually used for arthritis sufferers but it’s very effective and doesn’t make me drowsy. Though i might try out the arnica. I’ve used heat on the really severe days, which helps.
If i could afford massage, i’d love it. *sighs* i can’t go to a chiropractor anymore since it pretty much incites flare ups. That’s more a goal for a once a month one when i get my budget leveled out again, to do the massage thing. It’d do wonders for my stress level too!
Hi everyone…… just had a nice intimate dinner with Elmore with chicken cacciatore and warm orzo salad with a great malbec wine.
TRex…. great post and you nailed it again!
Hi katymine, that supper sounds delish :-)
katymine @ 154
Sounds like you’re bouncing back!
How are you feeling katymine?
Loo Hoo. @ 153
It is also another way not to spend money in the states. You know, like Katrina, health care for kids blah blah blah
My attitude is bad tonight.
Elmore sounds like he knows his way around a kitchen, katymine - that sounds like a wonderful dinner
madmommy @ 149
Hey, Fla/Ken and the Vols visiting your Tide, any guesses…??? *g*
marymccurnin @ 158
No problem…the Bushnuts’ attitudes are bad every fucking day.
kirk murphy @ 131
You and I don’t always agree, but when you are right, I have no problem saying so.
burnspbesq @ 82
Doesn’t explain the female contingent, though.
Still, there’s a very strong whiff of “permanent stunted mental growth at around 6 years of age” throughout them all. Bah.
Suzanne @ 160
I cooked…. Elmore did the dishes and spoiled Miss Dog…. doggie prewash ;)
Today was a better day…. better a little everyday
TexBetsy @ 151
You have a better spine than most Democrats in Congress. *ducks*
CTuttle @ 160
Who knows? One of the fun things about college football is any given saturday anything can happen. Who won the Rutgers game toninght?
katymine @ 164
Definitely, heading in the right direction, Katy!!! *g*
that’s great news katymine - and token does the best prewash in town.
burnspbesq @ 166
LOL. Stronger in spirit, a bit fragile in the flesh, so to speak.
demi @ 120
btw, for those that missed it, funny (of course!) post at Sadly, No! re Mickey Kaus & Goat-Love
Read the threads, & also commented on at Group News Blog
i don’t necessarily endorse the tactic, but it did give me a much needed laugh
katymine @ 165
Way to go!
Amen, TREX. The Republican party stands four-sqaure against life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. When I think of what America could be without this Republican anchor around our necks I get so pissed off that I could eat sawdust and sh*t 2×4’s. My ideal of American politics would be a prominant Democratic party and a prominant party of opposition to the left of them. The Republicans would be extinct or so attenuated as to be rendered effectively harmless. Can I get a witness?
Thanks, madmommy! Twas great!
They think about power, the authoritarian heart’s desire.
Its about turning a nation of consumers into a pen of slaves, forevermore to do the bidding of their masters on pain of bad credit and worse living.
Those who profit by this will live above the clouds upon the hills, and the rest can fight to claw their way out of the abyss toward an illusion of safety.
Modern society is a failed experiment to people who believe in death as a reward.
Technicolouryawn @ 172
A-men!
madmommy @ 166
Hah, USF’s No. 2 ranking is shortlived, Rutgers won…!!! *g*
madmommy @ 167
Rutgers, 30-27.
As a once-and-forever Jersey Boy, I’m pleased that the Scarlet Knnnnnnnnnnnnn-igits are winning. But boy, their fans are assholes.
TexBetsy @ 151
sounds painful :(.. sorry to hear that.
Technicolouryawn @ 173
Thank you Jeebus!
Dealing with some eye strain tonight, so I’m gonna go. Yes I need new glasses (and probably bifocals this time, grrrrr). Good night all!
OT- I finally got to talk to the bus driver, the little guy is going to start riding the bus on monday. He’s going with the regular bus with his brother rather than the special ed bus. Because of where we live he would be one of the first pick ups and the last drop offs on the special ed bus so it’s just too long a day for a 4 year old. He is very excited and promises to be very good. I am a puddle.
night LL
burnspbesq @ 177
So’s Imus for his ‘Nappy’ remark directed at the Rutgers’ Girls B-Ball team…!!!
Loo Hoo,
I sang happy b-day to you, but I don’t know whether you saw it.
Also….Be very, very glad you didn’t spend last Friday night with us. It rained.
madmommy @ 182
I love hearing about your kids.
madmom, that is great news. he gets to ride the bus with his brother. what could be better?
woohoo, madmommy. good luck with the little guy getting any sleep the night before. he will be up and ready to be at the stop at 0500
CTuttle @ 176
I kinda thought they would. It would serve the NCAA right if the season ended with non BCS teams 1 and 2. Set up a real playoff, it’s doable and every other Div 1 sport has one.
I still want to know why we absolutely have to have an AG for the duration of shrub’s reign. I mean, why are we awarding this guy for his obtuse intransigence? This country can survive without an AG for 14 1/2 months… not least ’cause his last one pretty much trashed the DOJ so badly that it’s gonna take years for anybody to put it back together
Astral Technician @ 48
Will you have them tell you what their fantasies are?
Sometimes I think that the folks who are trying to deal with others “sex addictions” and want to censor pornography actually are facilitating their own lustful desires. Imagine the censor, surrounded by thousands of magazines and films that have to be reviewed for their “prurient” qualities. The standard of judging that, of course, is the level of their OWN sexual arousal. So these “arbiters” are getting their rocks off and are addicted to sex far more than those that they claim to be “protecting” or “helping”.
Similarly, when these “counselors” hear the tales of sexual depravity of their “patients” they may offer little gasps of “Oh! How horrible!” but subconciously be deriving vicarious sexual arousal from the tales. I can almost bet that they don’t simply take the persons claims of sexual addiction at face value…THEY WANT TO HEAR (and sometimes SEE) the material or the acts they performed.
Suzanne @ 187
That’s not so far off, I get the big kid up at 5:30 to catch the bus at 6:15. Too early for elementary IMHO, but because we are at the edge of the parish we are the first pick up and last drop off.
CTuttle @ 184
This is the basis for my comment about Rutgers fans.
katymine @ 164
That’s great news, Katymine. Looks like a complete recovery is not too far away.
madmommy @ 188
Heh, if my Warriors are undefeated, say hi to a BCS bowl…!!!
LoudounLib @ 181
I think that I’m ready for tri’s — please test for bifocals because I was HORRIFIED how blind I was without bifocals. It is hard to get used to the progressive lenses, but I did do it.
To learn about Edwardsgate, go here:
http://harpers.org/archive/2007/10/hbc-90001405
CTuttle @ 194
Did you see the first post a day or two ago, I think it was Scarecrow’s, with a video of the All Blacks doing the Haka?
I just hate the way they linked that “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” bit to their crazy Biblical OCD. They can’t cherry pick the life part and be “pro-life” while dismissing us in the “pro-pursuit of happiness” sector. Damn them to hell and gone.
burnspbesq @ 192
Good Point!!!
Time for some tunes?
Found this clip while wandering aimlessly around YouTube. John Doyle sitting in with the Allison Brown Quartet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSD7J5NYGjw
Technicolouryawn @ 172
Amen sibling! Every time I get pissed off with America I remind myself that this is a country that, at least technically, guarantees its citizens the right to “the pursuit of happiness”. How can I not love that?
TRex!!!
“Where do they find these relics? Does the White House’s HR department have a time tunnel to 1955 that they go fishing in when it’s time to fill a job?”
The snark just keeps on coming. Great post, TRex!!!
madmommy @ 197
Ahh, No, I missed it, anyone have a linky…??? *g*
Blub @ 190
Absolutely. I wish the congress would just tell the boy-king that while they aren’t going to kick him out, they also aren’t going to let him do any more damage either. No more of your radical miscreants will draw a paycheck and further damage our republic. You, sir have demonstrated time and again that you cannot be trusted with the people’s business. You are done, sir. Make do with whomever is next in command. We will no longer dignify any more of your nut-job cronies with our scrutiny. Take a vacation, sir. We have a country to put back together.
Perhaps it is time for a series of posts at the Lake on the United States Constitution, Bill of Rights. Each post tackling an amendment and what it means and where we stand today.
LS @ 197
Thanks for re-posting that, I was thinking about that article this PM. I think we know about, maybe 1% of the criminality that has occured.
Christine Edmonson @ 195
The trick to getting used to progressives is first pick a frame that allows for enough of add (reading portion) at the bottom. Secondly, an accurate measurement is crucial for the proper placement of the add. Lastly, you need to wear the new glasses all the time to adjust to them. If you have to tip your head back and forth to bring the near vision into focus the frames need to be adjusted or re-measured. You should be able to move from close to far simply by lifting your eyes from the bottom of the lens to the top. Picking a frame with nosepads allows for more play in adjustment.
madmommy @ 87
Bonobo chimps (Pan paniscus) only. The “Common chimp” (P. troglodytes) only has heterosexual sex, and then only occasionally (when the female is fertile). Thus Common chimps don’t have sex for pleasure, only for conception.
Repugs are more like troglodytes.
demi @ 185
Thanks, demi. I thought it might rain. Saw your comment about the tent leaking too…
Burns and I were talking about arranging a meet-up at the Harbor House in Dana Point for SoCal pups. I owe you lunch!
Peanut Butter and Blub are here too. You guys want to? Oct. 27th is the weekend date that’s out for me.
Christine Edmonson @ 53
FRANCE!
cinnamonape @ 207
Dang, Cinnamon, I almost lost my beer…!!! ;-)
Suzanne @ 206
What a great idea!!!! I second that. In increments, so it sinks in.
Loo Hoo. @ 210
Can’t make it; I have jury duty for four more months.
Blub @ 190
Bush outfoxed the dems just this once by appointing an interim AG from the Gulag.
Music and Dancing for Demi
marymccurnin @ 186
Thanks, I’m afraid I am a bit of a one note Nelly sometimes.
excellent idea, Suzanne!
LS @ 212
I third that!
madmommy @ 217
Naaa. Just a mom.
Loo Hoo. @ 210
I was just about to ask if that was on for this Saturday?
Dana Point is pretty far down for folks from North County or L.A. If people wanted to do a more central location, I could suggest a few. There’s a great Cuban restaurant on the circle in Old Town Orange, or the original Wahoo’s Fish Taco in Costa Mesa, or Ruby’s on the end of the Balboa Pier …
Austin…the weird..liberal oasis…is left with Glenn Beck, Hannity, and Rush on the radio…OMFG.
http://thebellman.blogspot.com/search/label/what fresh hell is this
Damn it’s almost midnight. Off to bed for me. Goodnight all!
burnspbesq @ 221
My daughter used to work at the aquarium there.
madmommy @ 207
Yea! Yes, and it all depends how you look, and that isn’t sidewise.
I hate this Goddam fucking war - all 17 years of it - and what it is doing to our Constitution!
marymccurnin @ 219
There is no such thing as “just” a mom.
AirAmerica is evidently gone in Austin, one of the most liberal cities in the United States.
We are in deep manure over here folks.
sleep well madmom.
One of the Repugs was arguing on the floor that half the children are on private insurance programs, Hmmm… What’s the co-pay, how extensive is the coverage, how much is being gouged out of the family’s budget for the privilege…??? They have no shame…!!! 8-(
fuck
madmommy @ 221
Nite, MM!!!
Watching the end of an ER episode…. having weird flash backs…… guy goes bad in ER….. has tumor in kidney….. starts bleeding and needs to go to OR as an emergency….. wow…. the guy is not screaming enough in pain….. he needs to hang from the trapeze bar on the bed and really let go…. boy am I over that!
LS @ 228
Is it being drowned by ReThugs or just unable to thrive?
persiflage @ 110
They don’t need incubators…they could accept all those frozen embryos and have them implanted into the bodies of their own wives. Susan Orr could have had several implanted into her FERTILE body. Has she?
Or they could demand that Scientists begin work on technology allowing “male pregnancy”. The Fundy’s (yes, meant as an insult to those who hold these “Dark Age” views) could of course, be volunteers.
I am really worried about the future of the country. We are being deprived of liberal radio all of a sudden.
OT..Via Talk Left
Did Wyden Insert Poison Pill In Senate FISA Capitulation?
(snip)
(snip)
NYT
Suzanne @ 231
I heard that
;>)
Suzanne @ 230
fuck
newtonusr @ 234
Sold. Austin is very, very liberal, and people are aware here. This is ominous.
CTuttle @ 143
yours and mine too.
brilliant pitching by Beckett! Tmr., there will be blue skies in the one blue state where red is actually bluer than blue.
LS @ 236
Let them have the radio. We have the internets (all of them!!!).
LS @ 235
Internet based liberal conversation radio.
Christine Edmonson @ 239
fuck
We are listening to the soundtrack to “Once” and it is lovely…
darkblack @ 237
not even with someone else’s (fill in blank of choice)
It’s amazing that I can’t get laid more, with all this fucking going on in here.
marymccurnin @ 224
Oh.. just saw this.. sure, if I’m here, Dana Point or any of the other suggestions are all fine. There’s a chance I may be out of town that weekend, as I said before, but it might be doable.
Christine Edmonson @ 239
Well OK, if you both insist, but I’ll have to wait until the Mr gets back from shopping.
OT..
link
burnspbesq @ 201
The festivals were out in Harbison Canyon near where Mr. Prince would like to see Blackwater locate.
Allison and Stuart were always the hits of the show!
Folks…we have the internet, but tons of people don’t…Rove comes back to TX, and now our liberal AirAmerica is suddenly gone. It is important for non-internet people to have access to the other side via radio. I am blown away by this development.
newtonusr @ 247
Life, liberty, and the pusuit of fuckery. What’s not to love about that?
Steve-AR @ 249
fuck
Have other progressive radio stations been purchased or gone under?
Steve-AR @ 250
Personally, I think oil should be about $200 a barrel.. then people’ll actually get serious about doing something about alternative energy
Fuck.
marymccurnin @ 255
I mean lately.
The station gets sold and THEN the programming changes. That’s the plan. It’s happened in quite a few cities to stations carrying Air America programming.
Alright…start bringing out those spells again, that’s about all we got.
TexBetsy @ 243
Feb 2006 Phoenix lost our Air America station, bought out by a Christian radio network. What we did is a pixel project where we sold pixels for adds for seed money to start Nova M radio.
What we did is rent time on a frequency until financing for a fulltime radio station could be negotiated. Listeners put up the money, we raised over $100,000 in a week. It worked for us here.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....223352/192
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....14553/1647
Steve-AR @ 250
Which is why I never listen to Rupert Murdoch who predicted that the Iraq war would result in oil falling to $20 a barrel. Fucking know-nothing fucker.
Suzanne @ 253
so to continue… fuck — awake?
Fuck
cinnamonape @ 235
I’m starting to get the sneaking suspicion that they’re less interested in the ‘babies’ than in controlling women. How shocking!
marymccurnin @ 243
GDMFSOB!
That felt good.
And now for a snack.
Ed*ard Teller @ 226
IMHO, the war is a symptom of a much deeper sickness.
Is this that clean language fem blog I heard about?
Steve-AR, I didn’t realize you were SoCal! Kewl. Boy, four more months on a jury? Can’t wait to hear the details after it’s all done. Sounds like a great one. I had jury duty yesterday and was hoping to get on a really big trial, but no such luck!
persiflage @ 266
It’s called traffic control. (Alluding to CC joke)
So what am I going to do with my KOKE T-shirt?
It happened in Phoenix. The new owners changed the programming to Christian. There were already 7 religious stations in Phoenix. Rather than be the only progressive talk station, they wanted to compete with 7 other stations for the same audience. Dumb.
The San Diego station hasn’t been sold, but they’re changing to a sports format, so they can be the 3rd sports radio station in town. Again, dumb.
My guess is there’s some serious wingnut welfare being tossed around to some station owners and managers. Bastards.
uh, #264, mod…
Technicolouryawn, that comment crossed the no violence or threats of violence policy - even if you were just saying.. i pulled it
TexBetsy @ 219
Fifth! That would be really good for us.
Fuck again.
already taken care of et
persiflage @ 262
my guess is that all of these arseholes were long oil shares when this war kicked off. The war’s just a personal piggy bank for the Texas oilthugs
Blub @ 278
Nonsense! It was for all of the oilthugs, not just the Texans.
burnspbesq @ 221
You name it, burns. Date and place. Just please a weekend. Then we can start taking a count and let people know who don’t attend late night too. FUN CITY!
TheOtherWA @ 273
Phoenix is back… it is 1480 KPHX and it has been on the air way over a year on that frequency. It was back on the air in 30 days from the shutdown.
http://www.1480kphx.com/
marymccurnin @ 244
Fornicate!
LS @ 222
The article doesn’t show up, LS. Just the Title and comments…
burnspbesq @ 125
Didn’t see what math he used. But logic would tell us that the capacity to ATTACK Iran is not at all related to the capability of winning a conflict if they respond.
And that response would likely entail, not just a military response, but social upheavels in Iraq (led by millions of Shiites), as well as the neighboring Gulf oil states (all of which have substantial, even majority, Shiite populations). One could expect INTERNAL attacks on the Sunni monarchs and regimes that rule these oil-rich Emirates, as well as our bases within them. Missile attacks from the rear and in ports would not be unexpected. The Persian gulf could become a naval graveyard.
Any Gulf State that allowed the US to use bases on its territory to make such an attack would be sealing its own death warrant.
In Iraq a Khartoum or Dien Bien Phu scenario is certainly possible with our troops caught up in a maelstrom of anger, the likely demand by the Iraqis that US immediately withdraw from its borders, and the permanent tainting of whatever support we have in the region.
The Straits of Hormuz could easily be disrupted…even if the US attempted to occupy part of SE Iran.
Regarding Turkey Gates said….”I will say again it has potential to do real harm to our troops in Iraq and would strain - perhaps beyond repair - our relationship with a key ally in a vital region and in the wider war on terror,” the Pentagon chief said.
That would be the consequence of a mere “resolution”…just think of what might happen if the US made a “pre-emptive” attack on Iran.
Bush has said that if Iran obtained the “information” to make a nuclear weapon it would trigger World War III. Hate to say it, but it would be the WORLD against the US!
late late nite is up
LS @ 228
Oh, no. We might be losing it in San Diego too.
Randi put rumors to rest about being beaten up today. She just fainted, it sounded like.
katymine @ 233
Now, honey, you shouldn’t be watching that! So glad to hear you’re feeling stronger.
Blub @ 248
That cuban restaurant is excellent ;-) THere’s also a number of good restaurants around there as well.
I’m out this weekend, the 27th is out, but other than that I’m pretty much open, so let’s put something together!
TexBetsy @ 279
true.. oilthugs everywhere. Why not.. buy the guvmint so that you can get the taxpayers (and hapless American soldiers.. mostly from disadvantaged backgrounds) to create conditions of global uncertainty and scarcity to drive up the price of a commodity that you control and which everybody depends on. Gives new meaning to the word “kleptocracy”
Blub @ 278
I would put nothing past these people.
newtonusr @ 247
newtonusr funny.
katymine @ 272
Hold it. Someone is collecting Air America memoribilia. Might be worth a lot on ebay someday.
Puritanical. I think that is the only way this nonesense makes sense.
If you are a pre-ordained by god chosen person then everything will work out for you. Since they are rich and powerful they must be pre-ordained so yippie for them and screw the rest of the population.
Poor = Not chose by god.
I am not saying any of this is true…it is just a very short way to obsolve this viewpoint.
Frankly I think truly spiritual and religious people are not compatible with this view point. Certainly Jesus wasn’t.
“Republicans are pro-life…until you’re born”
TRex @ 21
Bravo, bravo!
Good blue morning to the pups from the bluestate that loves things red when they are the color of sox and sunsets and fall sugar maples and cranberries and local apples and did I mention sox?
apropos. interesting (to sox and all baseball fans) discussion yesterday on Dkos prompted by the following remark in the following diary, ostensibly a defense of Joe Torre. The diarist got slammed for erroneous facts, including the rendition charge, about the Sox, while getting Torre the respect he deserves inclduing from Sox fans.
So for Pups who like teams besides our Jane’s Lakers, here is a link to the discussion and a wakeup thought:
And is there a legitimate progressive way to discuss politics and race in baseball? to highlight progressiveness in MLB?
Taking away Rudy’s Yankee stadium privileges is a no brainer, but are there serious ways that baseball can be a vehicle for bringing issues to attention of fans?
And need I say on this glorious morning, it ain’t over until…well you know what Yogi the Berra said…
Go Sox. Even if it means I have to wear a red shirt every day until it’s over and won…since I hate red except in apples and cranberries and did I mention sox?
Pushing the submit button before the coffee kicks in and makes me regret this soul bearing.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/18/163522/91
“To Red Sox Fans (those who root for the team with an entirely white fan base, the last team to integrate and an owner who let the CIA use his private plane for rendition flights)–it’s over for the season.”
Good post, but the Schaivo quote was unnecessarily callous.
EvilDrPuma @ 55
No, human hubris and a total disrespect for those who are different is the disease, regardless of whatever religious context is used to mask this cancer.