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		<title>By: Beth Wellington</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/18/all-hat-no-cattle-2/#comment-1043533</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Wellington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Alarmingly, CNN reported this morning via Dow Jones news servies that Obama refused to comment despite pressure from bloggers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama’s office, as well as the campaign and Senate offices for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., have refused to comment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200710190901DOWJONESDJONLINE000536_FORTUNE5.htm&quot;&gt;http://money.cnn.com/news/news.....RTUNE5.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alarmingly, CNN reported this morning via Dow Jones news servies that Obama refused to comment despite pressure from bloggers.</p>
<p>Obama’s office, as well as the campaign and Senate offices for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., have refused to comment.</p>
<p><a href="http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200710190901DOWJONESDJONLINE000536_FORTUNE5.htm">http://money.cnn.com/news/news&#8230;..RTUNE5.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: PeterK</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/18/all-hat-no-cattle-2/#comment-1043224</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Couldn’t bear a snippy phone response so I emailed Reid (with a note using one of the Salon comments as a starting point).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Incidentally, IMO Krugman’s article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/19/opinion/19krugman.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;today&lt;/a&gt; on corporate contributions to the Dems may help explain Reid’s attitude and a lot of other things the Dems have been screwing up lately.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn’t bear a snippy phone response so I emailed Reid (with a note using one of the Salon comments as a starting point).</p>
<p>Incidentally, IMO Krugman’s article <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/19/opinion/19krugman.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion&amp;oref=slogin">today</a> on corporate contributions to the Dems may help explain Reid’s attitude and a lot of other things the Dems have been screwing up lately.</p>
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		<title>By: el ranchero</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/18/all-hat-no-cattle-2/#comment-1043126</link>
		<dc:creator>el ranchero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t get why everyone is singling out Obama for criticism on this?  He’s the only other candidate who’s even released a statement so far as I can tell.  Where’s Edwards’ rapid response team?  And Hillary, as Jane mentioned, has been conspicuously silent.  Where are all the second tier candidates, and why do they not get a share of the ridicule?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And it seems a little forgetful to me to bash Obama for being some kind of do-nothing when just &lt;em&gt;3 days ago&lt;/em&gt; he derailed Hans von Spakovsky’s nomination to the FEC with, you guessed it, a hold.  I think Spakovsky getting on the FEC would’ve been a pretty big deal, too, and Dodd didn’t do anything about that one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, he missed the boat on this one and Dodd got on it (after being lobbied hard by bloggers, by the way), so kudos to Dodd.  But isn’t it a little unfair to light up Dodd’s phones, AND ONLY DODD’S, and then criticize Obama for not being quicker to the punch?  Wouldn’t this be a fairer critique if we had lit up &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; of their phones?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s another question: shouldn’t we be happy that at least 2 of our presidential candidates are taking stands in the Senate while waging presidential campaigns, that we are stuck with a field of Hillarys and Bidens?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t get why everyone is singling out Obama for criticism on this?  He’s the only other candidate who’s even released a statement so far as I can tell.  Where’s Edwards’ rapid response team?  And Hillary, as Jane mentioned, has been conspicuously silent.  Where are all the second tier candidates, and why do they not get a share of the ridicule?</p>
<p>And it seems a little forgetful to me to bash Obama for being some kind of do-nothing when just <em>3 days ago</em> he derailed Hans von Spakovsky’s nomination to the FEC with, you guessed it, a hold.  I think Spakovsky getting on the FEC would’ve been a pretty big deal, too, and Dodd didn’t do anything about that one.</p>
<p>Yeah, he missed the boat on this one and Dodd got on it (after being lobbied hard by bloggers, by the way), so kudos to Dodd.  But isn’t it a little unfair to light up Dodd’s phones, AND ONLY DODD’S, and then criticize Obama for not being quicker to the punch?  Wouldn’t this be a fairer critique if we had lit up <i>both</i> of their phones?</p>
<p>Here’s another question: shouldn’t we be happy that at least 2 of our presidential candidates are taking stands in the Senate while waging presidential campaigns, that we are stuck with a field of Hillarys and Bidens?</p>
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		<title>By: The Truffle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/18/all-hat-no-cattle-2/#comment-1043020</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truffle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Democrats aren’t caving to anyone.  They’re in the pockets of the telecoms, too, alas.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats aren’t caving to anyone.  They’re in the pockets of the telecoms, too, alas.</p>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/18/all-hat-no-cattle-2/#comment-1042988</link>
		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1042321&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;tw3k @ 126&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1042316&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;peanutbutter @ 122&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Sorry, I meant to be focusing on Reid’s amounts.  Maybe Kerry’s borking/brokering everything under the table!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*confuzzled*&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, me too. has to be more to it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does this include “bundled” money—maybe the wrong term, but I mean individuals who are used to make donations on behalf of the corporations themselves?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1042321"><em>tw3k @ 126</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1042316"><em>peanutbutter @ 122</em></a></p>
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Sorry, I meant to be focusing on Reid’s amounts.  Maybe Kerry’s borking/brokering everything under the table!!</p>
<p>*confuzzled*</p>
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<p>Yeah, me too. has to be more to it.</p>
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<p>Does this include “bundled” money—maybe the wrong term, but I mean individuals who are used to make donations on behalf of the corporations themselves?</p>
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		<title>By: pluege</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/18/all-hat-no-cattle-2/#comment-1042951</link>
		<dc:creator>pluege</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;CHRIS DODD &lt;b&gt;♥&lt;/b&gt; US CONSTITUTION&lt;br /&gt;
.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CHRIS DODD <b>♥</b> US CONSTITUTION<br />
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/18/all-hat-no-cattle-2/#comment-1042912</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why, thank you kindly, larue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[But if truth be told, maybe the dragon is stirring, a little.]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why, thank you kindly, larue.</p>
<p>[But if truth be told, maybe the dragon is stirring, a little.]</p>
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		<title>By: KJ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/18/all-hat-no-cattle-2/#comment-1042771</link>
		<dc:creator>KJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1042736&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;newtonusr @ 147&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1042721&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;KJ @ 146&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kudos for Dodd take the lead on this issue, but this punishment of Obama is a bit disingenuous. To be frank, Dodd, has a snowball’s chance in hell of being elected President. I generally like him and think he will make an excellent Majority Leader. But let’s get real. He was in DC today for one reason and one reason only–he didn’t have any campaigning to do. Biden was in Iowa. Obama was in Nevada. Clinton was in DC.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While it would be ideal that candidates would drop everything on a moment’s notice, the reality (in this situation) was that this bill wasn’t brought to the floor for a vote. He’s on record speaking out against it. If he doesn’t back that talk up in the coming days, then feel free to have at him. To do so at this point, though, is just disingenuous.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As respectfully as I can say this, his record is clear on the Constitution, going a ways back. And since when did any Progressive feel the need to dis a pol who said (and IMO, believes) exactly and precisely what they do?&lt;br /&gt;
We moan here a lot about the lack of stand-up Senators and critters. Someone stands up and you want to suggest he’s a piker for votes? No dice.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not suggesting that he’s a piker (and if came across that way, I apologize). My bigger issue is that, if I understand the timeline, people are acting as if Obama was in DC and didn’t take any action at the time. Earlier this week Kos and others were championing him placing a hold on the Hans Van Spakovsky’s (sp) nomination to the FEC. Now, he’s chopped liver because he didn’t get out a statement fast enough? Again, if he doesn’t follow through or step up in other ways going forward, have at him. But as far as I can tell, people are overreacting.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1042736"><em>newtonusr @ 147</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1042721"><em>KJ @ 146</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Kudos for Dodd take the lead on this issue, but this punishment of Obama is a bit disingenuous. To be frank, Dodd, has a snowball’s chance in hell of being elected President. I generally like him and think he will make an excellent Majority Leader. But let’s get real. He was in DC today for one reason and one reason only–he didn’t have any campaigning to do. Biden was in Iowa. Obama was in Nevada. Clinton was in DC.</p>
<p>While it would be ideal that candidates would drop everything on a moment’s notice, the reality (in this situation) was that this bill wasn’t brought to the floor for a vote. He’s on record speaking out against it. If he doesn’t back that talk up in the coming days, then feel free to have at him. To do so at this point, though, is just disingenuous.</p>
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<p>As respectfully as I can say this, his record is clear on the Constitution, going a ways back. And since when did any Progressive feel the need to dis a pol who said (and IMO, believes) exactly and precisely what they do?<br />
We moan here a lot about the lack of stand-up Senators and critters. Someone stands up and you want to suggest he’s a piker for votes? No dice.</p>
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<p>I’m not suggesting that he’s a piker (and if came across that way, I apologize). My bigger issue is that, if I understand the timeline, people are acting as if Obama was in DC and didn’t take any action at the time. Earlier this week Kos and others were championing him placing a hold on the Hans Van Spakovsky’s (sp) nomination to the FEC. Now, he’s chopped liver because he didn’t get out a statement fast enough? Again, if he doesn’t follow through or step up in other ways going forward, have at him. But as far as I can tell, people are overreacting.</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/18/all-hat-no-cattle-2/#comment-1042737</link>
		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1042659&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;prostratedragon @ 145&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Harper’s and Huff articles get to my point: with this much of this kind of stuff going on. you’d think by now it would have dawned on a lot of the targets that they are, shall we say, in it together. Instead we keeping getting retreats of increasing ignominy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We must continue to hold their ignominous feets to the fires of the dragon’s breath. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*G*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just re read Heinlein’s “Between Planets” recently.  Venuvian Dragons. True Speech. Whistled greetings and such. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m always quite taken when I see your handle . . . it, like your musings, is way kewl . . .  “May you die a glorious death.” (it’s in the book)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1042659"><em>prostratedragon @ 145</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The Harper’s and Huff articles get to my point: with this much of this kind of stuff going on. you’d think by now it would have dawned on a lot of the targets that they are, shall we say, in it together. Instead we keeping getting retreats of increasing ignominy.</p>
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<p>We must continue to hold their ignominous feets to the fires of the dragon’s breath. </p>
<p>*G*</p>
<p>I just re read Heinlein’s “Between Planets” recently.  Venuvian Dragons. True Speech. Whistled greetings and such. </p>
<p>I’m always quite taken when I see your handle . . . it, like your musings, is way kewl . . .  “May you die a glorious death.” (it’s in the book)</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/18/all-hat-no-cattle-2/#comment-1042736</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1042721&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;KJ @ 146&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kudos for Dodd take the lead on this issue, but this punishment of Obama is a bit disingenuous. To be frank, Dodd, has a snowball’s chance in hell of being elected President. I generally like him and think he will make an excellent Majority Leader. But let’s get real. He was in DC today for one reason and one reason only–he didn’t have any campaigning to do. Biden was in Iowa. Obama was in Nevada. Clinton was in DC.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While it would be ideal that candidates would drop everything on a moment’s notice, the reality (in this situation) was that this bill wasn’t brought to the floor for a vote. He’s on record speaking out against it. If he doesn’t back that talk up in the coming days, then feel free to have at him. To do so at this point, though, is just disingenuous.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As respectfully as I can say this, his record is clear on the Constitution, going a ways back. And since when did any Progressive feel the need to dis a pol who said (and IMO, believes) exactly and precisely what they do?&lt;br /&gt;
We moan here a lot about the lack of stand-up Senators and critters. Someone stands up and you want to suggest he’s a piker for votes? No dice.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1042721"><em>KJ @ 146</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Kudos for Dodd take the lead on this issue, but this punishment of Obama is a bit disingenuous. To be frank, Dodd, has a snowball’s chance in hell of being elected President. I generally like him and think he will make an excellent Majority Leader. But let’s get real. He was in DC today for one reason and one reason only–he didn’t have any campaigning to do. Biden was in Iowa. Obama was in Nevada. Clinton was in DC.</p>
<p>While it would be ideal that candidates would drop everything on a moment’s notice, the reality (in this situation) was that this bill wasn’t brought to the floor for a vote. He’s on record speaking out against it. If he doesn’t back that talk up in the coming days, then feel free to have at him. To do so at this point, though, is just disingenuous.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>As respectfully as I can say this, his record is clear on the Constitution, going a ways back. And since when did any Progressive feel the need to dis a pol who said (and IMO, believes) exactly and precisely what they do?<br />
We moan here a lot about the lack of stand-up Senators and critters. Someone stands up and you want to suggest he’s a piker for votes? No dice.</p>
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