So, on Saturday I was working as the time-keeper for a live radio broadcast of “War of the Worlds”. That meant that I came out on stage at the beginning of the play and at the end of intermission and counted everybody down, “Five minutes on my mark…Mark!” counting, counting, “Four minutes on my mark…Mark!” until the final ten second countdown.
Anyway, after dress rehearsal I went outside to have a smoke and I got to talking to a trio of women who were in Athens for a convention of nursing students.
“So,” I asked them, “Are you guys in the nurses’ union?”
All three of them looked at me like dogs hearing a high-pitched sound. Then I asked them what they thought of single-payer health care.
“Oh, no,” one of them said, “We don’t want socialized medicine. That would be a disaster.”
As I probed deeper into their belief system, I started to realize that while they were nice enough people, they were completely brainwashed by the pro-corporate, anti-union factions in health care who want nurses and other health care workers as uninformed and reactionary as possible. My questions like, “Who told you that you’re better off than unionized nurses in other parts of the country?” were not going over especially well.
“We just are,” one of them said.
The thing I noticed that while one of the women seemed interested in what I had to say, if skeptical, the second woman just stood there looking frightened and saying nothing, but nurse number three was clearly the Republican of the bunch. How could I tell?
Because the moment she started hearing information that she didn’t like, her face closed like a pair of iron shutters and her eyes got the dead, blank look of a catfish’s eyes. You know the look. It’s the look that tells you that no new information will be allowed to pass within.
It’s the same look in the eyes of Trent Wisecup (see illustration at the top of this post), the aide to Congressman Joe Knollenberger who was caught on camera telling a liberal activist that he’s “Anti-American”, “blinded by his hatred of this country”, and that he’s not an American citizen. Thanks for that, Sparky.
Nurse number three took a mighty pull on her Marlboro Light and said, “Well, the way I was raised…”
And I braced myself. Anytime someone in a political discussion starts in about How They Were Raised, they’re about to say something so breathtakingly ignorant that it’ll make your brain bleed.
“The way I was raised, you work hard, take care of yourself and your family, and you keep what you earn. I don’t work to pay for everybody else’s health care. It’s not my responsibility to take care of people who won’t take care of themselves, blah, blah, blasé-blah…” and a series of other Randian delights from the Conservative Canon of Self-Serving Rationalizations.
I know. Groan.
I resisted the temptation to say, “Well, darlin’, maybe you were raised wrong.” That’s the kind of thing you just don’t say to people in The South.
Instead, I asked them, “So, do you think it’s right that every non-millionaire in this country is one catastrophic injury away from financial ruin?”
They didn’t have an answer for that and our meeting of the minds came to an abrupt end.
We already discussed the other night how Conservatism is a brain disease, a mental glitch that keeps its victims from being able to think flexibly, empathically, or creatively. I guess a more pertinent question would be whether or not the Conservative Mind can be treated or perhaps even rehabilitated to full functionality.
We’ll get right on that, I suppose. We can have a telethon or something. Seriously, it’s for their own good.
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This guy in the video…Joe’s chief of staff or whoever he is, chews tobacco. Watch him!
Hi TRex.
Excellent, excellent post TRex!
G’evening all
And nurse #3, who smokes, increases cost and the burden to nonsmokers in the organization (hospital) where she works.
I wonder: will she feel the same way when she’s paying for the chemo after she’s diagnosed with lung cancer?
Republicans: The party of big Trents!
Evening everyone. Watching this video the other day I was chilled to the bone. I am deeply afraid for my, and all children’s, futures.
@ 6
Now now… my addiction supports childrens health care.
Evening, gang.
Did someone tell the kids downstairs that we’re up here?
Eureka Springs @ 10
And our taxes will support your lung cancer treatments.
I take it this guy hasn’t been fired from his Chief of Staff position for this
“Conservatism is a birth defect?”
I guess that makes me the poster child for the March of Dimes.
That’s not funny at all. It’s incredibly offensive.
Don’t believe it….here for the start of Late Nite. But gotta go beddy bye….be excellent to each other and will catch up in the a.m.
Suzanne @ 13
Nope. Only the good die young.
EvilDrPuma @ 7
When her insurance company refuses to pay for a treatment her doctor recommends to save her life, I wonder if her attitude will change any?
TexBetsy @ 12
At long last the pendulum will swing both ways.
Your a good story teller TRex.
cognitive dissonance… blank eyes and closed postures such as you are describing are just armoring used to forfend such ugly thinking that leads to questioning accepted belief patterns and headaches….
Here is Digby’s take on the same subject:
(snip)
link
TexBetsy @ 12
Well, then – the circle is complete.
Suzanne @ 13
Spewing wingnut gibberish? Heck, he’s getting a raise.
Good read TRex. Nurse III sounds like my southern family. Boy do I have tales about them. What’s so hard is that I can walk away from a stranger but my sister and her family I love dearly. Conservatives are chosen by the Lord and me, well, I’m a lost sinner that chose to join some strange cult in California, Quakers.
burnspbesq @ 14
Sigh.
Do you want me to change it, Burnsy? I didn’t mean to upset you.
Evening All! Sorry, I was EPU’d:
CREW Rawks!!! Judge wants the missing e-mails…!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..e_e_mail_1
Steve-AR @ 21
No option for “concerned that it doesn’t do enough to encourage middle-class Americans to drop private coverage and sign up?” We fucking soc**list pinkos just don’t get no respect.
*MOD NOTE edited
I had major surgery last year for a life threatening illness. I was treated in a hospital with a fully unionized staff.
Accept no substitutes.
Suzanne @ 13
No that will be under the Clinton’s nanny state ;)
Okay, everybody hard refresh. Certain offensive phrases have been removed from the post.
Interesting how she is vilified for smoking and not her attitude.
Would ya’ll be saying the same thing if TRex had described her as overweight – putting her down for being heavy? How about if she was a different race? Or her religion?
Or is it that smokers are the only group left that everyone can say bad things about with no worry of repercussion?
CTuttle @ 26
Steve-AR
You Are No. 1.
Face it!
waving back over the barbed-wire fence.
making sure I don’t hurt my precious fingers.
QuakerGirl @ 24
Hi Mom!
Suzanne @ 30
DING DING DING DING!!
And on that note, I’m going outside for a smoke.
madmommy @ 31
demi @ 32
Hey demi!
burnspbesq @ 14
Whenever I hear that BS “Liberalism is a mental disorder”, one of the catchphrases of that jackass Michael Weiner-Savage, I just have to think…
That conservatism is a social disease.
I was raised rethug! I was rehabilitated, albeit fairly early on. Perhaps you’re a lost cause if you’re not rehabilitated by the time you’re 20
Suzanne @ 31
Sorry, Suzanne, you’ll get no apology from me.
CTuttle @ 35
Don’t know what happened, I fixed it with edit after it came up.
TRex @ 25
I believe the birth defect in question is ‘Neoconia.’ Conservatism is curable.
Why read the Constitution?
from Millard Fillmore’s Bathtub by Ed Darrell
Every Member of Congress needs someone to read the Federal Register daily, the Congressional Record each day, and the Constitution regularly.
The Federal Register records agency actions, many of them quite obscure, but all of the agency actions that affect a member’s state or district. Sometimes an agency will try to sneak something past a member, and sometimes they’ll simply fail to notify the member of something that really deserves a lot of attention. The Congressional Record does the same thing for Congress. It’s a difficult read, but someone who knows it well can tell when conditions are ripe to get action on some measure.
Al Kamen at The Washington Post gives an object lesson on why knowledge of the Constitution is important. In this case, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s Constitution experts invoked the clause that prevents a president from making recess appointments.
This may be inside baseball to most people. Kamen’s story demonstrates why a party will elect someone like Reid as their leader. He may not be as suave and funny as Jack Kennedy on camera, but he knows where the buttons are that open and close the automatic doors of power.
The detente the two sides reached over the Senate’s August break — which saw the Senate approve dozens of nominees in exchange for a no-recess-appointment pledge — is over.
That deal was reached in part because Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) dusted off an old weapon — the pro forma session — which would mean theoretically that the Senate would never be in recess. When both sides negotiate anew, that weapon looms large.
Turns out the pro forma session originally had nothing to do with recess appointments. It comes from Article I, Section 5 of the Constitution, which says neither the House nor Senate may be out for more than three days while the other body is in session, without the consent of that other body.
But neither chamber wanted to seek “permission” from the other one for anything. Bad form and all that.
Did you know what was in Article I, Section 5?
Perhaps more important, this was covered by the much-maligned-in-blogdom “Main Stream Media” (MSM). Can you find a blogger who broke this story before Kamen? I’ll wager you can’t.
burnspbesq @ 14
burnsy, I have certainly not been hesitant to call out TRex in public, when he steps way over the line. TRex’s words may have been ill chosen, but I think he was referring to the fact that there maybe a genetic component to political views.
And, as TRex knows, I have gone up in flames over some of his words. And, it’s important to hold his feet to the fire. That said, I don’t think he was saying what you thought he was saying.
For ‘conservative’ ReichWingers stupidity, being fat and ignorance are not bugs…They’re Features!
Trex will never go hongry in ‘Sippi! ‘Bama neither…
Suzanne @ 30
Yes.
It’s easiest to pick on the noxious especially if it distracts from the truly dangerous.
Suzanne
Ha! I am So with you, darlin’!
They just have to pick on someone.
Makes them feel better about their whatever!
*
I was showing the mancub my friends on facebook and we looked at all of your photos. Laughed (sorry) at the family shot with your mom, Ms. Whitegloves with her Hair. Mancub said she haid Marge Simpson hair.
Thought you might smile about that.
(gosh, I hope so, or I’m in deep doo doo.)
This Machine Kills Fascists @ 37
You mean like da clapp?
What they don’t understand is that they are one illness or accident away from bankruptcy. A one million dollar hospital/doctor bill is not uncommon; then the insurance co starts denying charges..”that’s all she wrote as they” say in the South.
My “good” health insurance payed $567 on a ,670 emergency out-patient surgery bill. It was “f” you until I got the lawyers involved and started talking about “bad faith” and the state insurance commission. That shouldn’t be necessary.
TRex @ 25
Leave it up if you want; I’m pretty thick-skinned. My point, which I see that I didn’t make clearly, is that there is no upside to gratuitously insulting people (i.e., old-fashioned, principled small-c conservatives) who are on your side on this and a lot of other issues, if all you can hope to get out of it is a cheap laugh.
madmommy @ 32
Oops, preview is my friend…!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..e_e_mail_1
i like it demi – marge simpson hair is what mom had – and i was trying for with my ‘do
For years I have had to listen to that kind of crap about Social Security and Medicare. They say all of their money is going for taxes to pay for people who won’t take care of themselves. Finally I gave trying to explain the nature and purpose of social insurance in a society. Instead I said I don’t have a problem for you not to pay those taxes, but you have to sign a waiver. What waiver they ask. A waiver that you cannot receive any kind of assistance in money or medical care when you are sick or old even when all of your assets of which you do not have nearly as much as you think you have are gone. Your family cannot help you unless they want to do so, AND they can afford to do so. And if you have a contagious disease you have to go to the farm. What farm they ask. The farm where sick, mean, stingy, selfish people go so they will not infect anyone else, and they can die taking care of themselves and not cause any expense to anyone else. I don’t have a problem with that, do you.
A.Citizen @ 45
Wow, Louisiana came in 4th. Pretty incredible considering the things we eat here on a regular basis. But, dang it, that cochon de lait is some gooooood eatin!
Nice try with the nurses, TRex. We must make every effort to free those bound to the oligarchical memes. It sounds as if you reached one, scared the second, and lost the battle with the third — who’s gonna be mighty happy her cancer treatments are covered by the “socialized medicine” she’s so opposed to now.
Good work. Keep it up.
Oh, and Trent Wisecup? You suck. With teeth.
We need to reframe the debate. To them it is socialized medicine, to us it is universal health care. I had a client, a doctor’s wife, tell me that they will retire to their West Indies home when medicine is socialized. The medical insurance industry is ten times more onerous than any universal or single payer system. Brain wash is right.
TRex @ 35
me too
I agree Teddy. Keep talking in a progressive style. Keep planting seeds. Some of them take root.
CTuttle @ 26
CT,
bad linkage.
peace, dude
TRex-funny you should mention Wisecup’s “dead eyes.” That was the thing that stood out when I first saw the clip a few days ago. Eyes looked like the eyes of a shark, only dumber. I sometimes wonder if Homo sapiens is in the midst of evolving into two separate species; one that thinks for itself, and the other, well, Republicans for want of another word.
Suzanne @ 13
According to Olbermann, this was the plan the Congressman’s office decided upon after two years of “harassment,” so he’s probably been promoted.
But: this is an office that’s never heard of S.R. Sidarth.
Steve-AR: “What they don’t understand is that they are one illness or accident away from bankruptcy”
What’s missing here is the concept of faith. You must believe that prayer and belief will protect you from illness or accident, and therefore bankruptcy. If God’s on your side, who needs insurance. Insurance is for heathens.
Wish I could send the most resent message I received from The South (all in an effort to save me). The images are priceless. Bleached blond Germanic Anglo-Saxon lady with a bleached smile answering the phone against a giant flag background. She says, “Hello this is America.” If you speak English press one. If you don’t, hang up. The rest are images of blond Jesus and white American soldiers both compared as dying for the same cause, my freedom. No soldiers of color in this military.
ADM @ 57
ADM-I left you a message downstairs regarding Bells.
I think being a conservative Bush follower is a brain defect–never being able to admit that you were wrong and never having to say you are sorry (the Ali Macgraw theory)
yellowdog jim @ 59
yellowdog jim-how ya doing commish?
Gnome de Plume @ 56
They are idiots, the doctors are hit just as hard by denials. The insurance co’s keep demanding more documentation and delaying payment as long a possible. Every day, week, month that they hold onto the money, they more they make on interest and investments.
TRex @ 30
Look – I only say fuck here. It’s my ONLY VICE!
yellowdog jim @ 59
Corrected see my 51! ;-)
ccmask @ 65
The idea of a Nurse on Kool-aid does give me pause. Imagine how they would treat someone they perceive to be poor or liberal.
QuakerGirl @ 62
Well, I’m glad your not “saved.” :)
@ 68
No, no. It’s fine to say “fuck” here. Aren’t you fucking glad to know that?
QuakerGirl @ 63
You just gotta love that blone haired, blue eyed Jesus. I remember asking my granny once why Jesus didn’t look like everybody else from the middle east, I was probably 8 or 9. Old enough to know that something wasn’t quite right, but too young to figure out exactly what. She was not amused. If Jesus were walking the earth today he’d most likely be cooling his heels in a cell in Gitmo.
Eureka Springs @ 69
I don’t doubt that is common enough.
EvilDrPuma @ 72
After all, it is a Foul-Mouthed Fem Blog…!!! ;-)
QuakerGirl @ 63
Good gravy, why don’t these people just wear sheets like the good old days?
madmommy @ 64
Yeah, mom. Got your message and responded. Thanks.
One of my roommates in college was a fundie nurse. Believed in birth control but not abortion. She worked as on OB GYN nurse at a major teaching hospital.
Yeah. Yup. Yes. Uh huh…..
Emppathy coupled with blame.
–These “people” that I strive to save, cause their own problems and it costs me, why can’t they be responsible, so that I don’t have to suffer too.
I’m tired, I’m underpayed…I’m struggling….I’m suffering too — that is the narrative..that enhances the contempt..that is the narrative that historically caused people to turn on their own people…you know the story…
This is part of the problem….
It is the false narrative that is reinforced by perceived, real events. Tricky stuff.
Site is sucking ‘with teeth’ even my trusty FireFox cannot cut thru the dread ‘refresh’ button…
Thing of it is these ‘insurance’ company folk are doin’ the right thing for their company, under the current ‘plan’, they are protecting their profits dude.
If you die in the meantime…hey, that’s the frikin’ ‘invisible hand’ of Adam Smith at work. Selecting out those who can’t afford to be Americans.
Tough on you but…them’s the breaks! Headin’ west!
CTuttle @ 75
Yes, but they let the X-chromosome-deficient say “fuck” too.
cooling his heels in a cell in Gitmo.
Really good one Madmommy!
Hey you too.
Oh and by the way, here’s a bucket of rocks for anyone still in the mood to throw one.
EvilDrPuma @ 81
most days
TexBetsy @ 43
TexBetsy -
They don’t pay attention to the Constitution. It’s just a quaint document. The People went the way of the airwaves.
EvilDrPuma @ 72
fuck
TexBetsy @ 78
Truthfully, I couldn’t care less what she believes until she tries to force it on the patients. It needs to be perfectly clear that that is lose-your-job territory.
QuakerGirl @ 63
Pass. No need to share those, QG.
CTuttle @ 69
cool.
appreciate your persistence in correction.
it helps us slow ones.
so, when do we see the emails?
ADM @ 77
We gotta wathc out for one another, don’t ya know ;0)
I think people become conservative or liberal by the path they take in life: conservatism is not brain damage, or even brain difference. Conservatism is working from the emotion of fear, and liberality is a place of more confidence.
I think life experience has as much to do with which you choose as does inborn personality.
Suzanne @ 85
I’ll trust you that it’s brilliant, but my dialup would hate me if I clicked that link.
You can’t help people who insist on putting their square root in the pie.
;>)
Their mentality is akin to like driving with the rear view mirror only…Time has a persistent habit of moving forward no matter how these shriveled-soul clods insist on turning their clocks back to 1954.
Suzanne @ 85
WARNING-NOT child-safe unless you want it chanted all over the house at inappropriate times.
edp, i posted it while on my dialup – it really does say it all yanno
EvilDrPuma @ 86
could work the other way too.. left to themselves and given the paucity of decent healthcare, rethugs may want to consider loyalty oathes in exchange for treatment :P
Suzanne @ 31
Suzanne, I love how you’re able to make these big-picture observations, stepping back from a specific situation, picking out the heart of the argument and seeing if it’s fair when put in other contexts. Whether it’s something you’ve been trained to do or innate, it’s special and I salute you.
Suzanne @ 94
Ah. As long as it says “fuck” with impunity.
When the talk turns to socialized medicine I often think of the socialized education we have in this country. And doesn’t the nurse who said she doesn’t want to pay for someone else’s health care realize she is doing just that with the insurance she has? As you folks all know, that’s how insurance works. So in effect she is part of a socialized system. Apparently she wants to keep it a closed socialized system.
yellowdog jim @ 88
After the election… Maybe… uhh, when hell freezes over… one of those should apply…!!! ;-)
ADM @ 98
Shhhh. Talk like that means you hate America.
darkblack @ 92
Damn!!! When will I learn not to click on darkblack’s links without some advance warning. (inserting funnel in ear, applying brain bleach)
madmommy @ 73
Don’t you love the answers you got for these questions. I was told I didn’t ask good questions. Another time after my question, the response was I sounded like a Communist. I didn’t even know what a Communist was other than something really bad.
persiflage @ 96
I salute Suz also. She really is quite brilliant.
square root in the pie: brilliant
how does s/he do it, day after day, nite after nite?
thanks, persi. i have no clue – it just happens and isn’t something that i have tried to do.
QuakerGirl @ 102
I usually just got a whack upside the head.
itwasntme @ 90
Gotta disagree and so does the guy who won the NAAS Gold Medal in 1985….funny how nobody ever mentioned him much until John Dean wrote about him.
Socialized roads
Socialized education
Socialized firefighting
Socialized streetlights
Socialized crimefighting
Socialized sewers
Socialized water storage and delivery
Birthday cake and greetings for Loo Hoo.
And since she’s not in the room at the moment, a snack for the rest of us.
thanks vg – coming from the mod emeritus, that is high praise… thanks again
Tex, when will the birthday gal be joining us?
speaking of the inheritability of rethugness, I can’t begin to tell you how angry my rethug kin are about Gore’s Nobel. They’re livid. Can’t have a convo with any of ‘em without his name coming up.
Did the nurses tackle TRex when he stepped out for his smoke, or has he simply abandoned us intolerant ex-smokers?
TeddySanFran @ 87
TeddySF -
I promise to spare you. I send them on to no one even though I’m going to go to hell if I don’t. Even my daughters don’t see them. They go to ether trash.
TeddySanFran @ 108
Socialized police. And just imagine the horrors of an un-socialized national defense.
Suzanne @ 111
Not sure. She was here for an earlier thread and then had a knock on the door. Eat the chips and salsa while you’re waiting for her to blow out the candles.
EvilDrPuma @ 115
Come to think of it, we already have Blackwater knocking on that door….
TeddySanFran @ 108
from the perspective of a rethug, that’s 7 privatization opportunities, right there
one is reminded of the fact that they want public schools handed over to for-profit educational management companies, police outsourced to Blackwater (actually proposed here in San Diego, by the blackwater exec Bonifligio (sp?) pushing for the Potrero training base), and they always like private ownershp of infrastructure
OT: I missed the opportunity to comment on Jane’s posting on Glenn Greenwald’s live-blogging of the Mukasey confirmation hearings. Per Glenzilla:
This prospective Attorney General of the United States sat there in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee and asserted that: “We don’t torture …” And yet these senators contiue to listen to him.
In a sane world they’d throw his ass out of them, and slap that lying sack of shit with a perjury suit. By carrying on a civil discussion with someone who makes such visibly counterfactual assertions, these senators are endorsing and participating in this Bush hypocricy. Their behavior is simply obscene.
Anybody who can claim that we don’t torture after all of the evidence that has been presented (the photos from Abu Ghraib, the FBI agents’s memos from Guantanamo, the logs of the rendition flights, the testimony from the tortured, etc.) does not deserve to serve as dog catcher and deserves nothing but contempt from self-respecting Americans.
The only rationale for appointing this jackass as attorney general of the U.S. is that lowest bar of all: he’s probably going to be better than Alberto Gonzales. But I am sickened by the deference that Democratic senators are showing to him. He is truly out of touch with what is going on in this country.
Uhoh, Suzanne, I feel like I’m betraying the Lake, I’m commenting at DU, now! I really like their emoticons…! However it’s not as personable and cozy as the Lake…!!! *g*
Suzanne, here’s what you can do while struggling with dial-up. Right-click the link you want to open, select “open link in new tab” and let the link open.
Then, go to the YouTube and hit pause and go on about your business in the other window. While you’re doing other stuff, the video will load and you can watch it later.
Blub @ 112
Please continue to remind us of this at upcoming low points. It brings a smile to my face every time I hear it.
TeddySanFran @ 104
Horizontally, occasionally vertically…Don’t we all?
;>)
Frankly, tonight, it’s laughter to keep from breaking things.
TeddySanFran @ 108
I was thinking about adding more in my earlier comment but wanted to post quickly. Thanks for mentioning the others I did not. So, again my question, why not medicine too?
madmommy @ 66
you are kind to ask.
my respiration is much better.
irs accepted our turbotax filings monday.
8yo’s teachers are pleased.
his dentist did not complain too much: no cavities.
he had sparing at karate tonight.
and i see my neuropsychologist for the 1st time tomorrow at 8:30 AM.
mrs. ydj wants to know if i’m ADD.
i told her it was just that i was so poor that
i couldn’t even pay attention.
… ka dum bump …
(ADD = attention deficit disorder)
TexBetsy @ 109
Thanks Betsy! How did you know I was craving chips and salsa?
madmommy @ 106
LOL
EvilDrPuma @ 115
Unsocialized national defense = gated communities guarded by Blackwater
Suzanne @ 111
Loo Hoo had to swim to shore, she had friends coming over…!!!
Blub @ 112
I love that about the Nobel. Other countries recognize our great leaders even when our countrymen refuse to.
Suzanne @ 85
I actually prefer this one: Fuck Yourself
TRex, I do that – just when I’m moderating, it slows my refresh rate during the one to two hours that it is loading that I have a hard time keeping up with the thread.
So I go through the threads after I log off for the night and then let them all load up while I’m sleeping.
I’m so thankful that there are perfect people here to tell the rest of how to be.
Snark, snark, snark.
I just swung by to tell Suzanne the Marge Simpson hair thing.
Fight on, dear pups.
(I’m leaving the bucket of rocks right here, just in case anyone wants one.)
Suzanne @ 110
she went out IIRC.
night demi
TRex @ 130
Surely they didn’t think Bush or Rumsfeld was going to get a Nobel Peace Prize. For that level of cognitive dissonance, you pretty much have to be American.
Nite, Demi!!!
Suzanne @ 110
Suz, you are totally a “class act”.
Definition:
excellent person or thing: a person or thing regarded as an example of excellence
yellowdog jim @ 125
Good to hear. I am thinking about enrolling the big kid in karate. Then I wonder if it is a good thing to teach him new ways to fight with his little brother. In fairness, lately the little guy is holding his own. He fights dirty.
Mad Dogs @ 131
adding it to tonights list.. thanks
EvilDrPuma @ 136
nobody has suggested shrub yet, except to say that they don’t think Gore is any more worthy. My uncle thought that Betrayus should’ve been considered.
G’nite TexB – thanks for the chips
And CTuttlel – say hi to your folks for me.
:) zzzzzzzzzzzzz
EvilDrPuma @ 76
They went from white to brown – military issue. They go to practice ranges and own a serious collection of nasty weapons – not for hunting deer, for sure, without obliterating the poor creature.
Blub @ 141
For a PEACE Prize? Your uncle is positively Orwellian.
demi @ 133
pleasant dreams, demi. I may just snag a few of those rocks, just in case.
I brought my own bucket of rocks, as always.
TRex @ 146
But you already took a shot at Malkin today!
EvilDrPuma @ 144
he said ’cause he understands (from watching Fox.. just guessin’) that he’s turned the war around, defeated AQ and brought the Sunnis over to our side to fight against AQ (not clear why we’re still fightin’ um if we’ve already defeated them). Apparently, this is what their media is telling them.
Mad Dogs @ 131
Is it true it didn’t originate from Puritans, For Use of Carnal Knowledge? I heard on NPR it originated with the Danes meaning to thrust violently. That isn’t nearly as much fun.
Suzanne @ 105
Then I can see that you must have been excellent police officer with your ability to see the fine details as well as the larger forces at work in a situation. We really are lucky to have you.
:::singing, I am a rock, I am an island:::
Blub @ 148
Oooooooo…kay.
CTuttle @ 99
it’s enough to make you wonder if hell will in fact freeze over by the time we get to have the 2008 elections.
1) weather is getting freakier by the day
(no hysteria there, friends)
2) getting to 2008 has already seemed interminable.
(like, since 2000 AND 2004?)
3) powers that be are proven untrustworthy.
(okay, a little hysteria there then)
“… cats and dogs living together ! … “
QuakerGirl @ 149
Actually, it derives from the Anglo-Saxon verb meaning, well, “to fuck.”
EvilDrPuma @ 152
which is precisely why we have such a problem here… it’s not just those nurses. Enlightened self-interest isn’t really an option when one doesn’t know what one’s inerests are. If their press outright lies to ‘em…
EvilDrPuma @ 115
okay:
“Blackwater”
Larry Craig (NOT GAY-R) Releases Music Video: “Toe Tappin’ with the Village People”
http://disembedded.wordpress.c…..ge-people/
707 a Republican Social Networking site!
Today I spoke with 5 others at the Capital Building in Sacramento on Health Care Reform. Here is the last paragraph of my speechifying:
As I have been speaking here today how many parents have walked into emergency rooms with sick children who should have been seen much earlier? How many people have suffered needlessly or possibly died during the last two or three minutes? It is long past the time to support the people who live their lives in California and the United State of America.
TexBetsy @ 157
::off key:: It’s fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A!
Socialized Electricity, Socialized gasoline tax, socialized cigarette tax, socialized taxes, socialized waterways, socialized socialites in private rehab centers.
yellowdog jim @ 156
their VP Bonifligio has made exactly that argument in justifying the Potrero CA training base.. that 1) the police can use the base’s services as a training facility, 2) new Blackwater product lines (rent-a-cops) could conceivably supplement the police
standing on chair clapping for Mary McC
tw3k @ 158
If it didn’t already exist, somebody would have to invent it.
It’s startling how little these “rugged individualists” understand about how much of our existence as human beings has to do with the way we support each other. You’d think the clothes they were wearing, the cars they drive, and everything else around them was just a manifestation of their will.
marymccurnin @ 159
The crowd stood on their chairs, cheering and clapping, then marched into the streets, gathering more citizens along the way, until finally, a huge mass of people reached the White House and demanded that the government listen to the people they work for.
Gnome de Plume @ 56
Could well be part of the Bush plan. Get the retirees out of the country and out of the system. I have my retirement plan (should I need it) in Panama.
tw3k @ 158
wow! love it.
If smokers die sooner than others, aren’t they less of a drag (har de har) on the costs of medical treatment?
Cujo359 @ 165
Rugged individualism is a hilarious idea, but the fact that there are people who seriously think it defines their reality takes some of the fun out of it.
Pentagon to alert 8 Guard units for duty – Yahoo! News
madmommy @ 101
All this time, I thought the name was the advance warning…
;>)
One for Suzanne’s list.
Thanks guys.
(looks down, slides foot along the ground, smiles meekly)
wigwam, re Mukasey, it wasn’t just torture that he hedged on. There was indefinite detainment, suspension of habeas corpus, support for the sham Combat Status Review Tribunals, buying into the war on terror as a war in the legal sense, extended powers of the President as Commander in Chief, and unilateral powers of the Executive. He made only vague promises about de-politicizing the DOJ and being forthcoming on investigations. I was way underwhelmed.
flat lifeless eyes…
Yeah. That. The real reason we refer to their regions as “red states”.
Sid58 @ 169
Depends how much they need in terms of medical care in final years.
TexBetsy @ 171
YEAH!!! Somebody give Betrayus a peace prize!
Burnspq, Please tell how conservatism jibes with Universal Health Care? Liberals maintain that the collection of taxes for the common good could be used to provide health care. I assume that the conservative position on this issue would be along the lines of keepin the status quo, or perhaps creating even less access to health care for indigents. How could heath care or education be accessible to the poor in a more pure conservative system?
Hugh @ 174
I’m going to have to get a vomitorium installed for the vote, aren’t I?
Long day and I’m tired. Goodnight all!
We need to stop this fucking war… Now!!!
My old Unit is being sent back to Iraq…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..guard_iraq
madmommy @ 180
Good night.
QuakerGirl @ 63
I’m late, QG, maybe you explained this. What is the context. Who sent this email?
madmommy @ 180
Nite, Ma’am!!!
sleep well madmom.
thanks, db, added it
TexBetsy @ 176
My mother-in-law died from lung cancer caused by smoking. It took her from the onset of COPD (cardiac obstructive pulminary disease, i think) to the day of her death about eight years to get the job done.
Loo Hoo! Happy birthday! Have you had a good day so far?
TexBetsy @ 171
Ya beat me to the punch…!!! One of them is my old unit…!!! 8-(
Evenin’ pups, late to the party…just going to hang out on the sidelines and catch up, and line up in solidarity with TRex, Suz, ADM and the other smokers as I fire one up.
Loo Hoo. I left your cake up at comment 109!
EvilDrPuma @ 76
Not colorful enough? ;)
LooHoo – happy birthday! woohoo, loohoo!!!
Good night Mad.
I’ve had many laughs tonight. Better than Comedy Central. I’m feeling much better after spending the day replacing my glasses chewed to shreds by Molly Ann. Now I type blind. Tomorrow I get temporary replacements.
Good night and have a pleasant evening. ADM, if you are still here, special good night to you. Take care.
Heading out.
See you kids in a bit.
:: waving to Loo Hoo :: happy birthday!
Margot @ 192
We have some very colorful sheets in our house. Blue, tan, lavender, etc.
marymccurnin @ 187
Thanks for the comment. My dentist was gone in three months.
Hugh @ 174
They are treating him like he’s the second coming of Christ. The only thing this jackass has going for him is that he can cross the lowest bar on earth: he probably a better attorney general than Alberto Gonzales.
Sid58 @ 199
My mom was under a year.
CTuttle @ 181
We need to keep CT and his blood pressure away from yahoo, lol.
madmommy @ 180
sweet dreams.
and now i must be off too …madmommy @ 139
we began at 6 and our instructor always emphasizes ‘no karate outside class’.
And that it is all about discipline, honor and respect.
it’s nice.
When I was coming back from the surgeon’s office yesterday I heard these two callers on my progressive radio station:
ya this guy was driving around Phoenix highways build by the state, maintained by the state, patrolled by the state …
Is this because these people have not experienced hardships or that they have no ability to empathize?
OMG, Madmommy! I wonder what more you can do with this thought. Hook up and discuss with Peterr and RevDeb if you can. I’m curious.
You just gotta love that blone haired, blue eyed Jesus. I remember asking my granny once why Jesus didn’t look like everybody else from the middle east, I was probably 8 or 9. Old enough to know that something wasn’t quite right, but too young to figure out exactly what. She was not amused. If Jesus were walking the earth today he’d most likely be cooling his heels in a cell in Gitmo.
EvilDrPuma @ 179
Projectile spew! This gives the word “barfucious” a whole new meaning.
Eureka Springs @ 202
Heh, not when fuckery abounds everywhere these days…!!! ;-)
Suzanne @ 85
Well, that was cheerful profanity.
Mucousy will get confirmed and then when the news breaks that he approved the use of battery cables on nuns, the chorus of “we are shocked, shocked” will arise from the seriouseratti who openly mock all that was once good in America.
-GSD
Loo Hoo. @ 205
Jesus was a peace-and-love DFH.
GSD @ 209
At least it’s nice to know that when it comes to completely missing the whole goddamned point, our Senate ranks among the world elite.
Loo Hoo. @ 183
I frequently get these from my southern family. They love receiving these and send them out to more people than I have on my Christmas list. I get them from relatives in Texas and Louisiana. For years after my Dad died my Mom and I were the only Liberals in the family. Until her final days she counted on talking to me. Both my parents were Social Democrats. I don’t know how my sister and her daughter and grandchildren ever became so racist and rightwing. They still like David Duke down there. This is the Republican Party. Without them, the repugs wouldn’t win. Jena is all of Louisiana. Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and the Carolinas. No surprise Prince and Blackwater are from that part of the world. And, Loo Hoo, I really love my sister.
EvilDrPuma @ 211
707! I needed that.
Dr. Dick the dermatologist who removed a skin cancer from my back told a young aid that a man came to him with no insurance and wished to have a mole cut off and pay Dr. Dick out of pocket for the service. The doctor refused to do it explaining that if he did and the mole turned out to be cancer, the man would then be uninsurable. Dr. Dick did not want to put the man in that predicament.
Dr. Dick advised the man to buy some health insurance and come back later. The man would have to wait about a month or so before he could be treated after purchasing the insurance. In the meantime, if he had any cancer it would be spreading.
My opinion is that if the man cannot afford to buy insurance, he would be better off to perform his own surgery than to leave a questionable mole continue to grow.
This kind of thing goes on all the time in the USA.
The health care system in the US is f*cked up.
I love GSD. He really has a great turn of phrase.
“His cheese is sliding off his cracker.”
can’t say where GSD said that, but, but…. I luv GSD.
Quakergirl,
Does your sister live in Metaire?
OT..
rollcall
Evenin’ all !!!
Heads up to all pups on the West Coast (and HI) … do not eat or drink while watchng TDS tonight …
Steve-AR @ 217
Awww, so soon and poor widdle Denny can’t stand life without the limelight? Well, fuck his pedophile-enabling ass straight to hell.
TexBetsy @ 201
My cousin died at age 45 from lung cancer diagnosed thirty days before his death. he had no health insurance. He was a heavy smoker. He’s in heaven now.
Loo Hoo. @ 205
You might check out Tom Robbins’ Another Roadside Attraction…
EvilDrPuma @ 219
Here’s an example of an ad hominem attack:
Dennis Hastert is a big fat sweaty disgusting pig of a human being.
hackworth @ 222
You’re right. I would never attack pigs that way.
marymccurnin @ 159
Mary, thank you.
wigwam @ 210
If not for him, the Roman Empire would have won the Judaean conflict.
;>)
Valley Girl @ 215
Ah, Valley Girl, you make me wanna blush and kick at the sand.
-GSD
Thanks and thanks.
((((( Loo Hoo )))))
Happy Birthday !!!
Joyeux Anniversaire !!!
Feliz Compleanos !!!
Janam Din Mubarak !!!
GSD @ 226
Hey Dood, how’s it goin’, eh ?
Although their are Nurses of every stripe, I think a lot of their opinion had to do with the fact that they were student nurses. Meaning they most likely have had no exposure to or experience with the Nurses union.
As an RN, I love my union. No facility is going to have a nurses back in a touchy situation. The union will. My benefits are wonderful – and I thank the union. My (nurses) awareness of the absurd cost of healthcare helps us to understand that most of us are one tragedy away from ruin.
Except for the right-wing wacko-s who practice nursing. Like all others of that persuasion, they just understand very little about so very many things.
:: waves to Petro from the sidelines ::
It’s not my responsibility to take care of people who won’t take care of themselves
A nursing student said that?
Seriously?
…Damn, I hope she’s never my nurse.
Evening, all.
Petrocelli @ 227
Yom Guledet Sameach!
Speaking of turning a phrase, Lou Dobbs must have been hooked up to the piss and vinegar I.V. while he was at the hospital.
Lou on The Decider…….
“There is little mystery about what future historians will consider to be the legacy of the 43rd president of the United States. Those historians are certain to describe the first presidential administration of the 21st century with terms such as dissipation and perversion.”
-GSD
Blub @ 162
Blackwater is claiming that they have no interest in training Iraqi type forces. They want to sell southern California police departments and CHP types their driving/shooting skills.
Out with them. Let the Counties/States take care of their own training. Weird and scarey concept.
welcome smgumby, from retired Teamsters Local 856
Petro!
-GSD
Hey Liss. How’s things?
Petrocelli @ 218
Petro, Mi Amigo!
AFT-NEA here.
Suzanne @ 236
and props to smgumby from IAFF local 2068!
Loo Hoo, I was mentioning earlier tonight that states need to jump on legislation NOW ending the use of paramilitary forces in the US on US soil against US citizens.
-GSD
evenin, Liss
TexBetsy @ 238
Other than dying from a head cold that won’t go away, pretty good. I’m looking at applying for a job as a parent advocate at the facility where J is living, once I can breathe again.
You?
GSD @ 234
Of course, Bush won’t understand big words like those….
Liss,
Is that cow still dreaming?
-GSD
katymine @ 204
I’m sure you’re question is rhetorical, but I’m sure it depends. Some folks manage to get through adversity OK, and they think they did it on their own, or at least without the help of society at large. Some take another view and realize that there are generally a whole lot of people who helped just because they felt it was their professional responsibility or their personal responsibility.
So I suppose the answer is that some folks just don’t think very much, and how much they’ve gone through just determines how insufferable they are when they lecture others about it.
Liss @ 244
Jobs all going well. Kids not killing each other anymore. Back better than yesterday. All in all, not bad.
Petrocelli @ 218
Heh, so funny! Love TDS, this, and Late Nite are the best for me of each day.
GSD @ 246
That would be a Crow and she’s always dreaming. ^_^
LoudounLib @ 230
Hiya LL !!! CT !!!
hackworth @ 220
The kinds of lung cancer associated with smoking tend to be diagnosed late which is why their prognosis is poor.
Dang, that’s what is wrong, too many Union members around…!!! ;-)
This is bad news. We need to take action on this:
Plan Would Ease F.C.C. Restriction on Media Owners
from NYT > Home Page by STEPHEN LABATON
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10…..mp;emc=rss
The plan would relax the decades-old media ownership rules, including repealing a rule that forbids a company to own both a newspaper and a television station in the same city.
QuakerGirl @ 212
greetings all, after five days on the road,
actually, erik prince (blackwater CEO) is from michigan. so, it’s not all southern and the south is not all KKK. you will find a strong contingent of fascist fundamentalists in western michigan, parts of indiana, ohio (jean schmidt [and those who elected her], anyone?), minnesota, new york, connecticut and so on.
my best friend from high school is a devout fox news watcher. we tread very gingerly around any political issues. only hillary has brought us together (though for very different reasons). he’s a big giuliani fan so i get to play the dobson card. he doesn’t know what to do with that.
EvilDrPuma @ 115
but but
profit makes everything better
hackworth @ 214
this leaves me completely flabbergasted
i am a former beach baby-as a child my friends and family would have competitions to see who could peel off the biggest bit of old sunburned skin(the record would(from memory)be about 2 1/2 ins sq(approximately)).
consequently,many years later,i have had two skin cancers removed and am about to toddle off to the skin cancer clinic to be checked for more.
Aust leads the world in skin cancer rates(i wonder why)and clinics are not hard to find.Medicare card is presented and that’s it. Australia wide tax funded facilities keep this problem well and truly under control and very expensive end-condition treatments are completely avoided.
it’s just so obvious.
ps i don’t expose my skin to the sun the way i used to.
TexBetsy @ 254
I think we should just eliminate the middleman and reduce confusion by just selling it all to the Republican Party.
Loo Hoo : Blackwater is claiming that they have no interest in training Iraqi type forces. They want to sell southern California police departments and CHP types their driving/shooting skills.
Out with them. Let the Counties/States take care of their own training. Weird and scarey concept.
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Funny, that brings to mind something I learned when Australian David Hicks was in Gitmo. His father retraced his son’s steps to better understand what had happened. People who wanted David locked up forever spluttered “but, but, but he TRAINED with Al Queda, he met Osama, he must be really, really bad.” David’s father discovered that the Taliban had no military training of its own, instead it out-sourced training to Al Qaeda. Sure makes Al Qaeda and Blackwater much more similar than either would like.
TexBetsy, I just saw that article. These clowns never give up. What we need is more media consolidation because it has worked so well up to now. Sheesh.
Loo Hoo. @ 235
Like Aircraft mechanics for Dyncorp, Balckwater employees come pre-trained – courtesy of the US Taxpayer by way of the US armed services. Then, Dyncorp and Balckwater get paid again with a big fat no bid contract.
Its corporate welfare served on a platter several different ways.
But no American citizen can get thru life without worrying about how their health care needs will be met. Cuz Rush and hannity and Oreally, and Glen Beck and Neil Boortz and Coulter and malkin and Floppyhair and the rest are on the radio or the tube lying their asses off 24 hours a day brainwashing ignorant people to go against their own interests.
Hi farhender. Glad to see you.
persiflage @ 188
Wonderful day. Never have had so many well wishes in my life. Thanks to you and all of the pups!
persiflage @ 258
… one more similarity … it appears that the U.S. Military will outlast both of them in Iraq …
Loo Hoo. @ 262
I completely understand loohoo – i was quite teary from all the good wishes Monday.
g’night all.
LoudounLib @ 265
Nite, LL!!!
(waving to all the leaving sleepy pups)
Gnome de Plume @ 56
In any forum where wingnuts talk about how medical care should be between you and your doctor, not government bureaucrats, I want a speaker to ask for a show of hands of everyone who has no bureaucrats involved in their healthcare. Then ask if it’s better to have bureaucrats whose job is to allocate healthcare equitably and whose boss is elected by you, or ones whose job is to keep costs low and profits high for his company, which is chosen by the people running your employer, whose job is to keep costs low and profits high.
Loo Hoo. @ 262
Wonderful people deserve wonderful days. I’m glad you’re enjoying it.
Loo Hoo. @ 262
Well, then I’ll just add my well wishes and get out of here. Goodnight, all.
persiflage @ 258
yes and there were two heroes in that whole disgusting episode.
Mr Hicks-father of david and
the appointed lawyer Mori.
Night LL. Sleep well.
nice frame redshift.
An OT for what it is worth:
Bush’s job approval rating fell to 24 percent from last month’s record low for a Zogby poll of 29 percent. A paltry 11 percent gave Congress a positive grade, tying last month’s record low.
late to the party (puff, pant, gasp, cough, cough, cough) but just got home from a trip to the groc. store, Ben & Jerry’s was on sale so i bought a bunch to have with LooHoo’s b’day cake.
g’night, LL!
Hiya, Petro!
Steve-AR @ 274
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 275
((((( NDFG )))))
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 275
Bring enough for everyone?????
TexBetsy @ 276
I have no idea, must be intervention by the Jeebus.
hi Betsy,
it’s always good to read what you and your family have to say.
Blub @ 141
If I recall correctly, some Fox commentators were pushing that line the day the award was announced, so it probably came straight from there.
Steve-AR – i think your cut and paste of the text included some coding…. The Lurking Mod fixed the quote problems of those quoting it too…
fahrender @ 280
Dood, long time no see …
fahrender @ 280
The snarky teen is writing only about teen issues rather than politics this week. And I’m just cutting and pasting blog posts & news stories.
Hi May :yes and there were two heroes in that whole disgusting episode.
Mr Hicks-father of david and
the appointed lawyer Mori.
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Absolutely. Terry Hicks should have been Father of the Year in my opinion. He never screeched that his boy would never do that, he didn’t say David was innocent. Just make a plea for fairness and decency. Consistently, over all those years, he supported his son in the face of government ministers who told outright lies and public apathy.
As for Major Mori, he was a constant reminder that most Americans are good, decent people with respect for the law and a passion for justice. Somehow and sadly, I don’t think he has much of a future in the US military.
OT..
The Air Force has decided to relieve at least five of its officers of command and is considering filing criminal charges in connection with the Aug. 29 “Bent Spear” incident in which nuclear-armed cruise missiles were mistakenly flown from North Dakota to Louisiana, two senior Air Force officials said yesterday
link
Cover up??
TexBetsy @ 278
Sure did! Lesee, there’s plain vanilla, plain chocolate, Heath Bar [something-too lazy to go look], peach cobbler, chocolate chip cookie dough, cherry Garcia, umm, and i don’t remember all the other flavors. Btw, washed my hands thoroughly before handling the cartons cuz i’m enduring that annoying head-cold that’s making the rounds.
Thanks NDFG!
dibs on the peach cobbler
and me half and half – vanilla and chocolate. Yummm!
Former Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) is expected to announce Thursday that he is resigning his seat in Congress effective later this year, eventually setting up a special election to succeed him, knowledgeable GOP sources said late Wednesday.
must explain his new ‘maf54′ license plate
Hi Liss, Petro, and everyone.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 287
What ?!! … none of our future President’s flavor … The Americone Dream ?!! *g*
hey margot
Margot @ 292
((((( Margot )))))
So many beautiful ladies to hug, so little time …
Redshift @ 281
I wouldn’t be surprised.. in the least. Why think when Roger Ailes’ll do it for you?
Petrocelli @ 293
they were out of the Chubby Hubby, also no Chunky Monkey
QuakerGirl @ 212
Dear Heavens, QG. I cannot imagine a more impossible situation. It’s going to take time, and I hope our democratic candidate can inspire people to change their thoughts.
Blackwater must go…
Your sister is welcome, of course, to join us. I’d love to see her here.
God’s upstairs with TRex.
Blub @ 62
I’ve had this same discussion on other blogs and asked Southerners what they would do if the federal government ripped up all the highway system? How would they do? *crickets*
Then Katrina hit.
They still deny the need for any federal government help, but beg for it anyway and still vote Republican. I say they’re crazy.
If they think the federal government is just a waste of tax dollars then why do they always demand we spend so much on the military. Obviously *anything* the feds do is stupid, so why trust them with nukes?
I told some people it looked like these nuts would have to face more hardship before they came around to thinking maybe government could be helpful.
Then the bridge in Minnesota fell.
How much do some people have to suffer before they come to realize government is a tool we use to help ourselves and that they can benefit from it?
Just how brainwashed are these folks that real life experience doesn’t quite get through to them?
madmommy @ 73
…
If Jesus were walking the earth today he’d most likely be cooling his heels in a cell in Gitmo.
And, you know he isn’t because of what?
hackworth @ 161
They would hate to be taxed and have their tax dollars be given to a black person. Of course, the highways, the post offices and many other government services are used by everybody. They are seriously screwed up by their racism.
MarkH @ 302
have they noticed that black people pay taxes?
MarkH @ 300
That’s your ultimate rugged individualist, self-made man, i.e., cry-baby capitalist. These fools will vote against their class interests, because they identify with Donald Trump.
In 1980, I knew a woman on welfare who voted for Reagan: “He’ll get the cheaters off welfare and that way there’ll be more for me.” No shit!
Board Allows Birth Control for Middle Schoolers
from NYT > Home Page by JOEL ELLIOTT
The Portland, Me., school board voted to allow middle-school students to gain access to prescription birth control medications without notifying parents.
TexBetsy @ 305
Bullshit! Prescription medication requires a prescription from an MD. School boards don’t have a say in it.
TexBetsy @ 43
Don’t know if this counts, but I pointed out back in August that this clause of the Constitution could have been used. In addition only 40 of the Senators could have stopped the recess through a filibuster. Thus 10 Democratic Senators could have been away at any time even while all the Republicans were there. Lastly the three day rule allows several days of break…with the cycling of the the 10 Senators it would have not only been possible but given Democrats a clear advantage in campaigning over Republicans, who would have had to maintain the full 49 Senators at call to try to overrule the Standing Rule.
It would have been outright war…and a war of attrtion…but the Democrats had the advantage.
From TPM: http://tpmelectioncentral.com/…..lation.php
I think Cantor has a great idea. And I’d suggest going him one better by proposing an amendment to his amendment stating that “nothing is the forgoing amendment shall be construed to prevent the Constitution of the United States of America, nor its Bill of Rights, nor any law such as FISA that’s intended to amplify and/or protect those rights.”
The purpose of that amendment to the amendment would be to put Members of Congress, e.g., congressman Cantor, on the record as to whether they agree with Benjamin Franklin, who said that “Those who would trade essential liberties for a bit of security deserve neither liberty nor security.”
Comparing photographs of Germans at Nazi rallies and the faithful at Republican rallies one can’t help but notice in the former their eyes are those of maniacs and the latter are the eyes of zombies.
ADM @ 98
Privately owned insurance companies, health, liability or whatever are an oxymoron. Insurance purportedly spreads risk over the society, but the profit motive acting against that intention, inspires insurers to limit risk.
Some insurers notified customers in the Eastern US they are eliminating hurricane coverage because the Eastern US hasn’t had a hurricane in twenty or so years and one is due. Forgotten are the premiums paid in those twenty years supposedly to cover just such an eventuality. Insurance companies keep them.
It is difficult for even liberals to get their heads around, but free market capitalism has a lot more wrong than right, but without understanding why people choose “me” over “we”, we will continue to generate more heat than light.
consternatives just need to be “perfected”
I’ve had similar encounters with “conservatives” and have noticed a note of panic that rises in their voices before they cut me off with something like; “Oh, those people have been killing each other forever!” or, “They’re all crooks!”
For them, that ends the discussion.
“The way I was raised, you work hard, take care of yourself and your family, and you keep what you earn. I don’t work to pay for everybody else’s [insert program here].”
Think of the fun you could have next time! Ask them if they would like to see the police and firefighters disbanded. We’d have roving “police” who act on behalf of the insured.
If you need the police, and you don’t have Copsurance, you get a bill. In cash strapped cities, we could all wear arm bands signifying our level of insurance, so the police know they should act (less they lose money saving someone from a mugger).
Same with Firefighters. We could paint the houses that have firefighters insurance red? I mean, if someone is careless enough to live in a place that gets hit by lightening, why should i have to pay to put the fire out?
What about snow removal? Clearly, the street should be responsible for their own snow removal. Socialized snow removal is downright communist.
It reminds me of interviews with Serbs in the 1990s. The implicit message is, “The fact that you even dare to question my underlying premises proves that you are, if not evil yourself, a tool of evil people. And probably deserve to die.”
Awesome review of Trent’s video appearance, Rex.
Thanks for the follow up.
I’d been thinking about his empty eyes and bullying stance and it could be called the presidential gaze these days.
The dinosaurs are watching their world slowly slip away.
The question is: do we have time to allow them the luxury of power in such ignorance?
Some great posts here, too.