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	<title>Comments on: Lying Liars and Their Lies About SCHIP</title>
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		<title>By: public.takeover</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/lying-liars-and-their-lies-about-schip/#comment-1038853</link>
		<dc:creator>public.takeover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What does that “no” vote on the procedural FISA mean?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Carl Slicer</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/lying-liars-and-their-lies-about-schip/#comment-1038621</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Slicer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As a self employed person, I pay $1200 a month for health insurance. And now the Socialist want to raise the level to 400% times the poverty level.&lt;br /&gt;
In Rockville, CT thats $84,000 a year for a family of 4. Now I have to pay for that family too ?&lt;br /&gt;
Mr Author, you need to get off your soap box with this “Well there is still plenty of money around so lets spend it” attitude.&lt;br /&gt;
If you had to pay this out of your own pocket, it would be a lot different. Or how about your parents ? They must have an extra $50K a year laying around they dont need.&lt;br /&gt;
     You are just plain reckless. Of course, a free hospital doesnt matter. Of course 12 million illegal aliens does not make the cost go up. Of course foreclosure rates at all time highs dont affect anything, of course the highest oil prices dont matter either.&lt;br /&gt;
What matters is you need to spend your own money &amp; then stop !&lt;br /&gt;
Not my money nor my kids money.&lt;br /&gt;
No means no.&lt;br /&gt;
Carl&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a self employed person, I pay $1200 a month for health insurance. And now the Socialist want to raise the level to 400% times the poverty level.<br />
In Rockville, CT thats $84,000 a year for a family of 4. Now I have to pay for that family too ?<br />
Mr Author, you need to get off your soap box with this “Well there is still plenty of money around so lets spend it” attitude.<br />
If you had to pay this out of your own pocket, it would be a lot different. Or how about your parents ? They must have an extra $50K a year laying around they dont need.<br />
     You are just plain reckless. Of course, a free hospital doesnt matter. Of course 12 million illegal aliens does not make the cost go up. Of course foreclosure rates at all time highs dont affect anything, of course the highest oil prices dont matter either.<br />
What matters is you need to spend your own money &amp; then stop !<br />
Not my money nor my kids money.<br />
No means no.<br />
Carl</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/lying-liars-and-their-lies-about-schip/#comment-1038102</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1037069&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dakine01 @ 55&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1037068&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;raven @ 54&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lynn Cheney just said Cheney and Obama are cousins!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Poor Obama!  Talk about having crosses to bear!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who do they get to write their material? This is soooo off the wall it’s almost like something Andy Kaufman wrote.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1037069"><em>dakine01 @ 55</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1037068"><em>raven @ 54</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Lynn Cheney just said Cheney and Obama are cousins!</p>
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<p>Poor Obama!  Talk about having crosses to bear!</p>
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<p>Who do they get to write their material? This is soooo off the wall it’s almost like something Andy Kaufman wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/lying-liars-and-their-lies-about-schip/#comment-1037722</link>
		<dc:creator>kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1037098&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;selise @ 83&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1037092&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kathleen @ 77&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If Fitz is against it and Judy &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Miller is for it, I know where I stand..with Fitz&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;fitz was also in favor of the patriot act.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Judy Miller helped lie this nation into an unnecessary war and has been pushing for more protection of Journalist.  I want legislation that will protect the American people and the rest of the world from “so called” journalist like Miller.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t agree with everything Kucinich has voted on or stands for but I stand behind the majority of his votes and legislation.  Can not be on the same page with some one all of the time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I trust Fitz more than I trust many of our Reps.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1037098"><em>selise @ 83</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1037092"><em>Kathleen @ 77</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>If Fitz is against it and Judy </p>
<p>Miller is for it, I know where I stand..with Fitz</p>
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<p>fitz was also in favor of the patriot act.</p>
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<p>And Judy Miller helped lie this nation into an unnecessary war and has been pushing for more protection of Journalist.  I want legislation that will protect the American people and the rest of the world from “so called” journalist like Miller.</p>
<p>I don’t agree with everything Kucinich has voted on or stands for but I stand behind the majority of his votes and legislation.  Can not be on the same page with some one all of the time.</p>
<p>I trust Fitz more than I trust many of our Reps.</p>
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		<title>By: MR. Bill</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/lying-liars-and-their-lies-about-schip/#comment-1037147</link>
		<dc:creator>MR. Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dang Selise, you are a trooper!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang Selise, you are a trooper!</p>
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		<title>By: Raph Levien</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/lying-liars-and-their-lies-about-schip/#comment-1037135</link>
		<dc:creator>Raph Levien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Any claim of fiscal responsibility by the Bushies is ludicrous. Isn’t the annual pricetag for S-CHIP about the same as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/&quot;&gt;billions  in Iraq&lt;/a&gt; that have gone simply unaccounted for? That might be worth bringing up in conversation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any claim of fiscal responsibility by the Bushies is ludicrous. Isn’t the annual pricetag for S-CHIP about the same as the <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/">billions  in Iraq</a> that have gone simply unaccounted for? That might be worth bringing up in conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Prairie Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/lying-liars-and-their-lies-about-schip/#comment-1037133</link>
		<dc:creator>Prairie Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Add The Beard to the Lying Liars — he’s still repeating the $83,000 b.s. right now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add The Beard to the Lying Liars — he’s still repeating the $83,000 b.s. right now.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/lying-liars-and-their-lies-about-schip/#comment-1037126</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;do-si-do @ 90 &amp; 93 -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks for the wise comments and understanding. much appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do-si-do @ 90 &amp; 93 -</p>
<p>thanks for the wise comments and understanding. much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: do-si-do</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/lying-liars-and-their-lies-about-schip/#comment-1037116</link>
		<dc:creator>do-si-do</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1037106&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;selise @ 91&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;i’m just sitting here watching c-span and hitting reload on the house rules “&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rules.house.gov/special_rules.aspx&quot;&gt;special rules reported&lt;/a&gt;” webpage to see what rule gets written by the committee on fisa today.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i plead extenuating circumstances for my bad mood.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;apologies to all i may have offended (or will offend).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey friend, I didn’t detect any crankiness … but may I say … we’re certainly entitled, jeez, health care for poor kids is controversial?  who knew.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks for the vigilance on FISA.  So many scandals, so little time and patience.  our government gets creepier and creepier.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1037106"><em>selise @ 91</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>i’m just sitting here watching c-span and hitting reload on the house rules “<a href="http://www.rules.house.gov/special_rules.aspx">special rules reported</a>” webpage to see what rule gets written by the committee on fisa today.</p>
<p>i plead extenuating circumstances for my bad mood.</p>
<p>apologies to all i may have offended (or will offend).</p>
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<p>Hey friend, I didn’t detect any crankiness … but may I say … we’re certainly entitled, jeez, health care for poor kids is controversial?  who knew.</p>
<p>thanks for the vigilance on FISA.  So many scandals, so little time and patience.  our government gets creepier and creepier.</p>
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		<title>By: do-si-do</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/lying-liars-and-their-lies-about-schip/#comment-1037112</link>
		<dc:creator>do-si-do</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1037104&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;P J Evans @ 89&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;dakine01 @ 75&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;‘Not hardly related’ is how I’d put it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For more on this (esoteric?) subject (and some laughs, I suspect, at how people are connected) go &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wargs.com/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. There’s one page on ‘political figures’, and another one with more stuff on some of the current candidates, further down the page.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;OMG!  Cats and dogs sleeping together!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1037104"><em>P J Evans @ 89</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>dakine01 @ 75</p>
<p>‘Not hardly related’ is how I’d put it.</p>
<p>For more on this (esoteric?) subject (and some laughs, I suspect, at how people are connected) go <a href="http://www.wargs.com/">here</a>. There’s one page on ‘political figures’, and another one with more stuff on some of the current candidates, further down the page.</p>
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<p><em>OMG!  Cats and dogs sleeping together!</em></p>
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