zennurse @ 331

Hi kids, just wanted to mention that there was an election in MA yesterday that will add an override the veto and end the war vote to the House. Nikki Tsongas from the Lowell area will be in DC on two days ready to go. It’s an interesting story; she is the widow of Paul Tsongas who once held the same seat and her challenger’s brother was killed on 9/11. He will surely challenge her again next year when the seat is up again (this was a replacement for departing Marty Meehan).

http://www.boston.com/news/loc….._district/

w00t! Good news!

Wouldn’t it be great if Tim Johnson made an appearance and a heart-felt speech about how expensive his healthcare would have been without government aid!

yellowdog jim @ 170

todd beeton at My DD on cnn’s poll numbers:

(my bold)

dKos on it too

DKos makes a big thing about Hillary being tied with Giuliani in the NY Senate race in 2000 before Giuliani dropped out. But he doesn’t mention that was quite early in the campaign and that Lazio, the Republican’s replacement for Rudy, had those same polling numbers immediately after Rudy left…and through most of the campaign. The last week Hillary suddenly exploded to a 54%-39% lead and walloped Lazio in the actual election. And throughout the polling in NY there was this large “Disapproval” rating by some voters. They disappeared during the election, converse to the popular meme as to why she would lose that race.

That said…if Gore gets in I’d vote for him in the Primaries over Hillary IF he really seemed to want to run with enthusiasm. And, barring more specific committments by Hill by the time the Primaries run out to my State I’ll likely vote for Edwards, or Richardson or Kucinich if they are still in it. Primaries are where you can vote your heart, in the General Election you have to vote a lot more strategically to prevent a nightmare from being elected.

todd beeton at My DD on cnn’s poll numbers:

One notable result from the poll, and one that should be somewhat worrying for the Clinton campaign, is that Clinton beats Giuliani in a head to head match-up by only 2 points, 49%-47% (essentially a tie) whereas a generic Democrat beats a generic Republican 52%-39%. If this gap between Clinton’s polled performance against Giuliani and that of a generic Dem is an indicator of a larger trend, this could signify a downside to a Clinton candidacy against Giuliani in particular. It also could signal a weakening on her part in the general, especially in light of this chart from Bowers that shows she’d achieved a minimum advantage of 3 points over Rudy since August, but that’s too early to tell from just this poll. Interestingly, Al Gore performs better against Giuliani than Clinton does, 52%-46%.

(my bold)

But none of the other declared candidates does nearly as well. And Clinton is the only declared Democratic candidate that appears to be moving up in her acceptance ratings…her “Would Never Vote For” folks fall below Obamas and Edwards (or Giuliani, Freddy, and Mitt).

Do we write-in Gore? A relunctant “candidate”?

This doesn’t seem to me to be an argument to vote for any of the other declared Democratic candidates. And who knows what would happen if Gore got in…his support might drop as the right-wing attacks escalated. Or simply because of the fact that he no longer looked “above the fray”.

After all, Fred Thompsons ratings plummetted soon after he declared. Admittedly, Gore has a lot more experience AS a candidate. But maybe he really doesn’t want to run. It would be hard for him to get enthused about it if he really, deep down, didn’t want to do it, yet got dragged into it by “Draft Gore” supporters. It might result in disaster.

Congressional Democrats Need Some FISA Encouragement

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/17/73512/069

The UK is looking to claim sovereignty over a large area of the remote seabed off Antarctica.

The claim for an area around British Antarctica is one of a number being prepared by the Foreign Office, a spokeswoman said.

Even if granted, those rights would not allow Britain to contravene the treaty that prohibits oil and gas tapping under the seabed.

The spokeswoman labelled the move “a safeguard for the future”.

twolf1 @ 350

Turkey expected to OK Iraq incursion

wtf is this? turkey’s leaders go to the parliament to get permission to attack another country? don’t they know what democracy means?

It’s like that anti-drug commercial where the dad catches the son smoking pot. Kid says – “I learned it from watching you!”

Turkey expected to OK Iraq incursion

Turkey’s Parliament on Wednesday was expected to approve a possible cross-border military incursion into northern Iraq to chase separatist Kurdish rebels despite international calls for restraint.

Turkish leaders have stressed that an offensive against the rebels of the Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, would not immediately follow the motion authorizing the incursion.

wtf is this? turkey’s leaders go to the parliament to get permission to attack another country? don’t they know what democracy means?

tw3k @ 343

nope, Proxy Error.

Sorry to be obtuse, but how does one overcome Proxy error?

It is an error on their end.

BlueStateRedHead @ 346

Sorry to be obtuse, but how does one overcome Proxy error?

One generally waits.

OK. means spending more time here at the Lake. Back when the cuppa is ready.