Comments on: Ethics Schmethics http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:11:38 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1037985 MarkH Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:05:16 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1037985 <p><a href="#comment-1036784"><em>Knut Wicksell @ 85</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>OT. Don’t know if this has already surfaced on the lake, but the Guardian had a story yesterday about David Kelley’s suicide. Apparently the pen-knife he used didn’t have any fingerprints, and he wasn’t wearing gloves.</p> <p>Just saying.</p></blockquote> <p>I’ve never heard of someone committing suicide with a pen-knife. Wouldn’t that be somewhat difficult considering the small blades on those things?</p> Knut Wicksell @ 85

OT. Don’t know if this has already surfaced on the lake, but the Guardian had a story yesterday about David Kelley’s suicide. Apparently the pen-knife he used didn’t have any fingerprints, and he wasn’t wearing gloves.

Just saying.

I’ve never heard of someone committing suicide with a pen-knife. Wouldn’t that be somewhat difficult considering the small blades on those things?

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1037945 MarkH Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:54:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1037945 <p><a href="#comment-1036686"><em>mainefem @ 11</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Pardon my barging in here (off-topic)–could you dastardly “foul-mouthed fem-bloggers” pls. give this very unscientific <em>Bangor</em> <em>Daily News</em> Susan Collins/Tom Allen “poll” a <b><a href="http://bangornews.com/news/t/news.aspx?articleid=155414&zoneid=500">smackdown</a></b>?</p> <p>Thanks muchly~</p></blockquote> <p>Do you have a particular criticism? Is there something about the article you find inaccurate?</p> <p>Considering Collins’ connection to the paper it seems pretty balanced.</p> <p>Of course, if we knew who was giving money we might critique that. Just off the cuff it sounds like Allen will have plenty of money if he keeps collecting at this rate.</p> mainefem @ 11

Pardon my barging in here (off-topic)–could you dastardly “foul-mouthed fem-bloggers” pls. give this very unscientific Bangor Daily News Susan Collins/Tom Allen “poll” a smackdown?

Thanks muchly~

Do you have a particular criticism? Is there something about the article you find inaccurate?

Considering Collins’ connection to the paper it seems pretty balanced.

Of course, if we knew who was giving money we might critique that. Just off the cuff it sounds like Allen will have plenty of money if he keeps collecting at this rate.

]]> By: RBG http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1037894 RBG Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:28:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1037894 <p><a href="#comment-1037882"><em>CanadaJohn @ 128</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>re: #127</p> <p>The first paragraph is quoted from a previous comment.</p> <p>Sorry.</p></blockquote> <p>Hi John, I went back to your earlier comment and italicized the first paragraph to set it off a bit. Hope I got it right.</p> CanadaJohn @ 128

re: #127

The first paragraph is quoted from a previous comment.

Sorry.

Hi John, I went back to your earlier comment and italicized the first paragraph to set it off a bit. Hope I got it right.

]]> By: CanadaJohn http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1037882 CanadaJohn Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:21:17 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1037882 <p>re: #127</p> <p>The first paragraph is quoted from a previous comment.</p> <p>Sorry.</p> re: #127

The first paragraph is quoted from a previous comment.

Sorry.

]]> By: CanadaJohn http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1037874 CanadaJohn Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:18:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1037874 <p><em>My understanding is that John Roberts of CNN totally swallowed the kool-aid down to using the “Could the Dems really have done that bad of a job vetting this family?” sentence.</em></p> <p>I can’t say if John Roberts drank the kool-aid.<br /> I do remember him from 20 odd years ago as a local TV personality up here in Canada. He used to host a daily music video program called ‘Toronto Rocks’, among other on air appearances. He used to go by JD Roberts then.</p> <p>I can tell you, to my knowledge, he was very much liked and respected by the city.<br /> I was happy for him when I started seeing him on American news broadcasts.</p> <p>I realize that how he’s perceived by teens when discussing music videos doesn’t directly relate to his personal politics. But, we knew him as a good guy and I find it difficult to accept that he’d trade his integrity for success.</p> <p>I just wanted to share my observation of the man before he became a US media personality.</p> <p>As I’m not an American, I won’t intrude on your discussions concerning domestic policy. I will say I’m very happy to see some debate is fact-based and not slanderous.</p> <p>Kudos to you who care about your children; your future.</p> My understanding is that John Roberts of CNN totally swallowed the kool-aid down to using the “Could the Dems really have done that bad of a job vetting this family?” sentence.

I can’t say if John Roberts drank the kool-aid.
I do remember him from 20 odd years ago as a local TV personality up here in Canada. He used to host a daily music video program called ‘Toronto Rocks’, among other on air appearances. He used to go by JD Roberts then.

I can tell you, to my knowledge, he was very much liked and respected by the city.
I was happy for him when I started seeing him on American news broadcasts.

I realize that how he’s perceived by teens when discussing music videos doesn’t directly relate to his personal politics. But, we knew him as a good guy and I find it difficult to accept that he’d trade his integrity for success.

I just wanted to share my observation of the man before he became a US media personality.

As I’m not an American, I won’t intrude on your discussions concerning domestic policy. I will say I’m very happy to see some debate is fact-based and not slanderous.

Kudos to you who care about your children; your future.

]]> By: Jimnospin http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1037367 Jimnospin Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:01:38 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1037367 <p>Not to throw water on your pity party over the S-CHIP veto, but isn’t Graeme Frost and the latest poster child ALREADY covered by the program? WTF is the purpose for making him and his family the subject of national scrutiny? Sympathy? Gimme a break! It’s for no other reason than to extend Federal benefits to more and more people and to be able to demonize ANYone who dares to oppose this giveaway as “uncaring”.<br /> Worst of all is the fact that they propose to fund this INCREASE with a regressive tax on cigarettes that will impact mostly the lower income people it is supposed to help!<br /> Do you honestly think that siphoning off people already privately insured for this government entitlement will help make insurance for the rest of us MORE affordable?</p> <p>Gimme a break!</p> Not to throw water on your pity party over the S-CHIP veto, but isn’t Graeme Frost and the latest poster child ALREADY covered by the program? WTF is the purpose for making him and his family the subject of national scrutiny? Sympathy? Gimme a break! It’s for no other reason than to extend Federal benefits to more and more people and to be able to demonize ANYone who dares to oppose this giveaway as “uncaring”.
Worst of all is the fact that they propose to fund this INCREASE with a regressive tax on cigarettes that will impact mostly the lower income people it is supposed to help!
Do you honestly think that siphoning off people already privately insured for this government entitlement will help make insurance for the rest of us MORE affordable?

Gimme a break!

]]> By: BlueStateRedHead http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1036953 BlueStateRedHead Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:42:22 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1036953 <p>Is Jena OT? Or another NPR right turn? Don’t think I was hallucinating when at thet op of the hour headlines EDT 2:02 described the nooses in Jena as symbols of “segregation and Jim Crow laws”<br /> no mention of lynching.</p> <p>NPR is therefore historically inaccurate, as it was always murder, even under Jim Cro, it is also racist, since it soft pedals the offense to Black Americans in the Jena case, and all others.</p> <p>Advice, please? Anyone believe it is worth complaining? I have already written today to NYT about their giving McConnell’s staffer a chance to whitewash himself (below on the Fisa post, with useful links) and have S-chip calls to make.<br /> Thanks in advance.</p> Is Jena OT? Or another NPR right turn? Don’t think I was hallucinating when at thet op of the hour headlines EDT 2:02 described the nooses in Jena as symbols of “segregation and Jim Crow laws”
no mention of lynching.

NPR is therefore historically inaccurate, as it was always murder, even under Jim Cro, it is also racist, since it soft pedals the offense to Black Americans in the Jena case, and all others.

Advice, please? Anyone believe it is worth complaining? I have already written today to NYT about their giving McConnell’s staffer a chance to whitewash himself (below on the Fisa post, with useful links) and have S-chip calls to make.
Thanks in advance.

]]> By: Diane http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1036939 Diane Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:35:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1036939 <p>Also told Foxx’s staff that her multiple use of the terms “Democrat bill” and “illegal alien” inflammatory & not relevant to the bipartisan SCHIP bill. Said I would inform every patient who arrives at out clinic that she had voted no on SCHIP.</p> Also told Foxx’s staff that her multiple use of the terms “Democrat bill” and “illegal alien” inflammatory & not relevant to the bipartisan SCHIP bill. Said I would inform every patient who arrives at out clinic that she had voted no on SCHIP.

]]> By: dakine01 http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1036935 dakine01 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:32:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1036935 <p><a href="#comment-1036931"><em>Diane @ 122</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>cinnamonape @120 - the fact that “illegal aliens” was used by my rep V. Foxx (described my letter from her in an earlier thread) as her rationale for not voting for the “Democrat bill” really pissed me off this AM. I called her office & voiced my outrage that her excuse had no basis in reality & was told by her staff that she “doesn’t lie”.</p></blockquote> <p>Your rep may not “lie” as per her staff but it sounds like she’s a little loose with the truth now and again.</p> Diane @ 122

cinnamonape @120 – the fact that “illegal aliens” was used by my rep V. Foxx (described my letter from her in an earlier thread) as her rationale for not voting for the “Democrat bill” really pissed me off this AM. I called her office & voiced my outrage that her excuse had no basis in reality & was told by her staff that she “doesn’t lie”.

Your rep may not “lie” as per her staff but it sounds like she’s a little loose with the truth now and again.

]]> By: Diane http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1036931 Diane Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:29:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/ethics-schmethics/#comment-1036931 <p>cinnamonape @120 - the fact that “illegal aliens” was used by my rep V. Foxx (described my letter from her in an earlier thread) as her rationale for not voting for the “Democrat bill” really pissed me off this AM. I called her office & voiced my outrage that her excuse had no basis in reality & was told by her staff that she “doesn’t lie”.</p> cinnamonape @120 – the fact that “illegal aliens” was used by my rep V. Foxx (described my letter from her in an earlier thread) as her rationale for not voting for the “Democrat bill” really pissed me off this AM. I called her office & voiced my outrage that her excuse had no basis in reality & was told by her staff that she “doesn’t lie”.

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