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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/dire-straits/#comment-1038563</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1036829&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Gasho @ 13&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;get on the PHONE and call your congress people and give them an earfull of MAD AS HELL.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush is a war criminal.  Impeachment is necessary, but not sufficient.  He should be on trial for his war crimes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This NSA/Telcom stuff is BULLSHIT.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Congress needs to know that the people are MAD.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Making the call every day to the local and DC offices is one way to cast your vote on how our nation should proceed.  Blogs are great, but the phone is (probably) more direct.  CALL NOW.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1036829"><em>Gasho @ 13</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>get on the PHONE and call your congress people and give them an earfull of MAD AS HELL.</p>
<p>Bush is a war criminal.  Impeachment is necessary, but not sufficient.  He should be on trial for his war crimes.</p>
<p>This NSA/Telcom stuff is BULLSHIT.</p>
<p>Congress needs to know that the people are MAD.  </p>
<p>Making the call every day to the local and DC offices is one way to cast your vote on how our nation should proceed.  Blogs are great, but the phone is (probably) more direct.  CALL NOW.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/dire-straits/#comment-1038063</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1036969&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elliott @ 130&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1036965&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 127&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I really dislike having to say this for I was a Pelosi voter and die-hard supporter of Nancy. I have egg on my face. The Speaker is a failure for two reasons. For not cutting off funding for Iraq and taking impeachment “off the table”.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m feeling the same way OKK&lt;br /&gt;
In the beginning of the year, I really thought we had something going…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We did, but then the DLCers, the Blue Dogs triangulated and now we’re fighting The Source, Billary itself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There seems to be a tiny lull in the campaign as fought here on fdl. We had Hillaryites over and bashed ‘em pretty good, maybe enlightened a few. But, now there’s nothing going on and I feel like I’m wandering around an empty house.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just what is next for the online campaign? I mean, neither Clinton nor Obama is just going to take their beating laying down. They’ve got all that money and they’re expected to make some gurgling noises or something they can claim is political rhetoric.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sigh, this is just too easy. C’mon somebody, put up a fight. Hillary fights like a (deaf mute) girl and Barack just follows behind her like a puppy dog.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John Edwards should win this election in a walk if Americans have any sense!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1036969"><em>Elliott @ 130</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1036965"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 127</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I really dislike having to say this for I was a Pelosi voter and die-hard supporter of Nancy. I have egg on my face. The Speaker is a failure for two reasons. For not cutting off funding for Iraq and taking impeachment “off the table”.</p>
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<p>I’m feeling the same way OKK<br />
In the beginning of the year, I really thought we had something going…</p>
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<p>We did, but then the DLCers, the Blue Dogs triangulated and now we’re fighting The Source, Billary itself.</p>
<p>There seems to be a tiny lull in the campaign as fought here on fdl. We had Hillaryites over and bashed ‘em pretty good, maybe enlightened a few. But, now there’s nothing going on and I feel like I’m wandering around an empty house.</p>
<p>Just what is next for the online campaign? I mean, neither Clinton nor Obama is just going to take their beating laying down. They’ve got all that money and they’re expected to make some gurgling noises or something they can claim is political rhetoric.</p>
<p>Sigh, this is just too easy. C’mon somebody, put up a fight. Hillary fights like a (deaf mute) girl and Barack just follows behind her like a puppy dog.</p>
<p>John Edwards should win this election in a walk if Americans have any sense!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/dire-straits/#comment-1038028</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1036904&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Susan @ 72&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The price the US pays will be extremely minuscule compared to that they will pay in Iraq and elsewhere.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;40,000 UNIDENTIFIED bodies in Najaf cemetery since the 2003 invasion.  Plenty more that are IDENTIFIED.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By the way, that 40,000 number is twice what has been discovered so far from Saddam’s mass graves.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is anyone working on complete identifications?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wasn’t Milosevic tried for the same kind of mass killings &amp; mass graves?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1036904"><em>Susan @ 72</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The price the US pays will be extremely minuscule compared to that they will pay in Iraq and elsewhere.</p>
<p>40,000 UNIDENTIFIED bodies in Najaf cemetery since the 2003 invasion.  Plenty more that are IDENTIFIED.</p>
<p>By the way, that 40,000 number is twice what has been discovered so far from Saddam’s mass graves.</p>
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<p>Is anyone working on complete identifications?</p>
<p>Wasn’t Milosevic tried for the same kind of mass killings &amp; mass graves?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/dire-straits/#comment-1038008</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1036811&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Biodun @ 4&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;But oh, wait:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’ve now defeated Al-Qaeda in Iraq!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Phony soldiers defeat phony terrorists?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1036811"><em>Biodun @ 4</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>But oh, wait:</p>
<p>We’ve now defeated Al-Qaeda in Iraq!</p>
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<p>Phony soldiers defeat phony terrorists?</p>
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		<title>By: Tanbark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/dire-straits/#comment-1037385</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good thread, Christy…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now let’s see which republican (or democrat) wants to, ahem, “man-up”, and call for re-instating the draft.   :o)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thread, Christy…</p>
<p>Now let’s see which republican (or democrat) wants to, ahem, “man-up”, and call for re-instating the draft.   :o)</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Varnell</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/dire-straits/#comment-1037037</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Varnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t blame me — I voted for Harry Britt!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Add to my previous post:  I’d bet that 99% of the people who work for the police agencies listed above are fine, upstanding civil servants.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But corruption is embedded in Blackwater, as are any number of bad apples in said agencies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t blame me — I voted for Harry Britt!</p>
<p>Add to my previous post:  I’d bet that 99% of the people who work for the police agencies listed above are fine, upstanding civil servants.</p>
<p>But corruption is embedded in Blackwater, as are any number of bad apples in said agencies.</p>
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		<title>By: GrandmaJ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/dire-straits/#comment-1037031</link>
		<dc:creator>GrandmaJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A saying is that an elephant never forgets.  Well, this old grandma never forgets either.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Pelosi has been suspect in her ‘progressive’ credentials (as  untainted by corporate donors that is) ever since the ‘evenhanded’ slap at Howard Dean.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Howard Dean made a comment about America being evenhanded in its dealings with both israel and Palestine, and Pelosi and others in the ‘house’ (refuse to capitlize it at this point) sent Dean a letter condeming his use of the forbidden word “evenhanded.”  Most absurb over reaction I had ever heard.  Well, republicans do it all the time, but this was absurd.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, Pelosi has not been a ‘true leader’ of democrats for quite some time in my mind.  The mind of one who will never forget her faux outrage at Dean.  *grump*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A saying is that an elephant never forgets.  Well, this old grandma never forgets either.</p>
<p>And Pelosi has been suspect in her ‘progressive’ credentials (as  untainted by corporate donors that is) ever since the ‘evenhanded’ slap at Howard Dean.  </p>
<p>Howard Dean made a comment about America being evenhanded in its dealings with both israel and Palestine, and Pelosi and others in the ‘house’ (refuse to capitlize it at this point) sent Dean a letter condeming his use of the forbidden word “evenhanded.”  Most absurb over reaction I had ever heard.  Well, republicans do it all the time, but this was absurd.</p>
<p>So, Pelosi has not been a ‘true leader’ of democrats for quite some time in my mind.  The mind of one who will never forget her faux outrage at Dean.  *grump*</p>
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		<title>By: brendan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/dire-straits/#comment-1037029</link>
		<dc:creator>brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kathleen:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is what’s known as a dilemma.  Republicans will always try to seize advantage of any issue, any issue, because they’re not animated by principle; I think we call it “jujitsu” here.  Protecting Judith Miller was important to them yesterday.  Tomorrow attacking some other journalist will be of more benefit.  We got Libby convicted and both Novak and Miller exposed and to some degree demoted; let that be some satisfaction.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen:</p>
<p>This is what’s known as a dilemma.  Republicans will always try to seize advantage of any issue, any issue, because they’re not animated by principle; I think we call it “jujitsu” here.  Protecting Judith Miller was important to them yesterday.  Tomorrow attacking some other journalist will be of more benefit.  We got Libby convicted and both Novak and Miller exposed and to some degree demoted; let that be some satisfaction.</p>
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		<title>By: QuakerGirl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/dire-straits/#comment-1037019</link>
		<dc:creator>QuakerGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1036965&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 127&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I really dislike having to say this for I was a Pelosi voter and die-hard supporter of Nancy. I have egg on my face. The Speaker is a failure for two reasons. For not cutting off funding for Iraq and taking impeachment “off the table”.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No need to feel bad. I am in the same position. I worked on her first campaign putting my life on hold and my kids on the back burner to get her elected. Well, my kids turned out fine and have surpassed me when I was their age. Nancy, well, not so much. I’d do it again for another new candidate if I thought we were making headway. Nancy is more like a child that went awry when they grew up. I just can’t dwell on my disappointment. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In summary, I think she was genuine as my representative but the longer she stayed and the higher the position, the poorer her performance. Most good sales people make terrible CEOs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1036965"><em>Oklahoma kiddo @ 127</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I really dislike having to say this for I was a Pelosi voter and die-hard supporter of Nancy. I have egg on my face. The Speaker is a failure for two reasons. For not cutting off funding for Iraq and taking impeachment “off the table”.</p>
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<p>No need to feel bad. I am in the same position. I worked on her first campaign putting my life on hold and my kids on the back burner to get her elected. Well, my kids turned out fine and have surpassed me when I was their age. Nancy, well, not so much. I’d do it again for another new candidate if I thought we were making headway. Nancy is more like a child that went awry when they grew up. I just can’t dwell on my disappointment. </p>
<p>In summary, I think she was genuine as my representative but the longer she stayed and the higher the position, the poorer her performance. Most good sales people make terrible CEOs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/16/dire-straits/#comment-1037015</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They are discussing the Shield law 2102 on the floor&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So how does congress protect the American public and National Security from journalist like Judy Miller (lied about sources and WMD’s), Robert Novak (outed a CIA agent) and the “alleged” passing of classified intelligence from journalist to officials or agents of a foreign country. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They are discussing the passing of a Shield Law on the floor.  How do you keep the free flow of information open and journalist are able to protect their sources,and at the same time protect the public from journalist who have agendas that have nothing to do with shedding the light on the truth, or getting accurate information to the public?   Novak disclosing Plame’s identity did not benefit the public.  This disclosure undermined National Security and hurt the American public.  Judy Miller hurt our country and the people of Iraq by reporting Lies about Iraq.  Miller is drowning in the Iraqi peoples blood and American soldiers blood&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I want to know how we make sure journalist like this suffer serious consequences for their very serious and destructive crimes.  Journalist are not omnipotent &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/jurist_search.php?q=h.r.&quot;&gt;http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/jur.....php?q=h.r.&lt;/a&gt; 2102 journalist shield law&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are discussing the Shield law 2102 on the floor</p>
<p>So how does congress protect the American public and National Security from journalist like Judy Miller (lied about sources and WMD’s), Robert Novak (outed a CIA agent) and the “alleged” passing of classified intelligence from journalist to officials or agents of a foreign country. </p>
<p>They are discussing the passing of a Shield Law on the floor.  How do you keep the free flow of information open and journalist are able to protect their sources,and at the same time protect the public from journalist who have agendas that have nothing to do with shedding the light on the truth, or getting accurate information to the public?   Novak disclosing Plame’s identity did not benefit the public.  This disclosure undermined National Security and hurt the American public.  Judy Miller hurt our country and the people of Iraq by reporting Lies about Iraq.  Miller is drowning in the Iraqi peoples blood and American soldiers blood</p>
<p>I want to know how we make sure journalist like this suffer serious consequences for their very serious and destructive crimes.  Journalist are not omnipotent </p>
<p><a href="http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/jurist_search.php?q=h.r."></a><a href="http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/jur.....php?q=h.r" rel="nofollow">http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/jur&#8230;..php?q=h.r</a>. 2102 journalist shield law</p>
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