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	<title>Comments on: Studies In Wingnuttery:  Rep. Joe Knollenberg&#8217;s Chief Of Staff</title>
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		<title>By: SharonRB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/15/studies-in-wingnuttery-rep-joe-knollenbergs-chief-of-staff/#comment-1036470</link>
		<dc:creator>SharonRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree that in this video Trent looks like the crazier one, but I know the guy behind the camera and he crosses the line a bit too often and hurts our cause by looking almost like as much of a nut as Wisecup.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nancy Skinner, who only lost to Joe 51-47 last time, is running against Knollenberg again — she just announced her candidacy officially today — and we will have a primary.  The guy behind the camera is a strong supporter of her primary competition, Gary Peters, and, frankly, I’m not so sure I’d want a loose cannon like him on my side.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that in this video Trent looks like the crazier one, but I know the guy behind the camera and he crosses the line a bit too often and hurts our cause by looking almost like as much of a nut as Wisecup.</p>
<p>Nancy Skinner, who only lost to Joe 51-47 last time, is running against Knollenberg again — she just announced her candidacy officially today — and we will have a primary.  The guy behind the camera is a strong supporter of her primary competition, Gary Peters, and, frankly, I’m not so sure I’d want a loose cannon like him on my side.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;James/Slappy/Kirk/MarkH, Good arguments and was it  was fun throwing ideas around. See you at the next one!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;K&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James/Slappy/Kirk/MarkH, Good arguments and was it  was fun throwing ideas around. See you at the next one!!</p>
<p>K</p>
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		<title>By: AlphaLiberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlphaLiberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hope the local papers are asking Rep Knucklehead if his chief of Staff really does speak for him. Does Rep Knucklehead really believe people who disagree with him are un-American?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the local papers are asking Rep Knucklehead if his chief of Staff really does speak for him. Does Rep Knucklehead really believe people who disagree with him are un-American?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/15/studies-in-wingnuttery-rep-joe-knollenbergs-chief-of-staff/#comment-1035538</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1034850&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Biodun @ 54&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Re: video:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Just how does one combat that kind of Repug anger and hatred and bile?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You don’t. You just show it to the public and let them deal with it in a Democratic way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Be civil, be kind, but rely on the Truth as your shield and sword.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1034850"><em>Biodun @ 54</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Re: video:</p>
<p><b>Just how does one combat that kind of Repug anger and hatred and bile?</b></p>
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<p>You don’t. You just show it to the public and let them deal with it in a Democratic way.</p>
<p>Be civil, be kind, but rely on the Truth as your shield and sword.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1034842&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 49&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Geez…just watched the video…Where does he get this idea that if you are for children and against the war; you hate America, love Iran and want Iran to “win”, and even weirder, love Toyota and hate GM.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His threatening posturing is really disturbing.  He is clearly a very unhappy, off balance character.&lt;br /&gt;
His anger appears to have chemically poisoned his mind it seems.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey, that’s just the kind of guys Gingrich was recruiting back in the ’90s to create a solid wall of support for whatever wing-nuttery he and the Bushies would come up with.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They need to be revealed, not as moderates, but as nuts. Then we can replace them, even in red states, with Dems of some kind.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1034842"><em>LS @ 49</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Geez…just watched the video…Where does he get this idea that if you are for children and against the war; you hate America, love Iran and want Iran to “win”, and even weirder, love Toyota and hate GM.   </p>
<p>His threatening posturing is really disturbing.  He is clearly a very unhappy, off balance character.<br />
His anger appears to have chemically poisoned his mind it seems.</p>
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<p>Hey, that’s just the kind of guys Gingrich was recruiting back in the ’90s to create a solid wall of support for whatever wing-nuttery he and the Bushies would come up with.</p>
<p>They need to be revealed, not as moderates, but as nuts. Then we can replace them, even in red states, with Dems of some kind.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1034811&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dov12348 @ 26&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Those sick fucks withhold money meant to save a kid so they can kill a troop and an Iraqi with it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You could barely SCRIPT something more perverted than that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s not quite right. The money for Iraq is borrowed. We don’t actually have any free money laying around for health care, either SCHIP or a universal system.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hopefully we’ll have a system in the near future which distributes costs and keeps them down, so it will mostly pay for itself. But, SCHIP isn’t that kind of system.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The strange thing about SCHIP is that it might be moot pretty soon after the next Dem president takes office. If a universal system goes in within the first year or two, then SCHIP will be subsumed (one would suppose).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still, the idea of shrinking foreign base numbers and saving DoD monies for other more productive purposes is very appealing if it can be done without much furor.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1034811"><em>dov12348 @ 26</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Those sick fucks withhold money meant to save a kid so they can kill a troop and an Iraqi with it.</p>
<p>You could barely SCRIPT something more perverted than that.</p>
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<p>That’s not quite right. The money for Iraq is borrowed. We don’t actually have any free money laying around for health care, either SCHIP or a universal system.</p>
<p>Hopefully we’ll have a system in the near future which distributes costs and keeps them down, so it will mostly pay for itself. But, SCHIP isn’t that kind of system.</p>
<p>The strange thing about SCHIP is that it might be moot pretty soon after the next Dem president takes office. If a universal system goes in within the first year or two, then SCHIP will be subsumed (one would suppose).</p>
<p>Still, the idea of shrinking foreign base numbers and saving DoD monies for other more productive purposes is very appealing if it can be done without much furor.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kurt, the reality that deliberate overbilling is criminal fraud )regardless of the excuses for the crimes) is something the UCLA School of Medicine and teaching hospitals stress to all of their trainees and faculty. I served in both capacities. The training was quite explicit.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Were I to detect the deliberate overbilling you describe having conducted in your small business, my first obligation is to notify Federal law enforcement.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This reality helps shield public assets from those who regard the Federal Treasury as a private piggy bank for their small (or large) businesses.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My quite non-theoretical experience has taught me that reporting overbilling is not merely an ethical obligation, but a downright pleasure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for sharing your opinions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt, the reality that deliberate overbilling is criminal fraud )regardless of the excuses for the crimes) is something the UCLA School of Medicine and teaching hospitals stress to all of their trainees and faculty. I served in both capacities. The training was quite explicit.</p>
<p>Were I to detect the deliberate overbilling you describe having conducted in your small business, my first obligation is to notify Federal law enforcement.</p>
<p>This reality helps shield public assets from those who regard the Federal Treasury as a private piggy bank for their small (or large) businesses.</p>
<p>My quite non-theoretical experience has taught me that reporting overbilling is not merely an ethical obligation, but a downright pleasure.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: slappy magoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>slappy magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1034979&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kurt @ 108&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1034922&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;eRobin @ 99&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wow.  That was upsetting.  Truly frightening and very very sad.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I finished my post about an SCHIP compromise and why it’s unacceptable.  It’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://casadelogo.typepad.com/factesque/2007/10/no-room-for-com.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Since the veto has a good chance of being sustained, it’s important that when we call our Congresspeople, we tell them NO COMPROMISE.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;eRobin,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I read your blog, why are you comparing the Republicans/GOP to terrorists? You make the argument that the pubs are holding children hostage…are you out of your mind?? That would be political suicide if it was true. Trust me, the GOP is in reverse right now trying to win back their base…they are not going to pass anything that is overly inflated and inefficient, nor are they going to do anything stupid and go against the ‘will of the children’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On a side note, has anyone noticed the more money we throw at issues relating to children, the more screwed up our children are becoming? I think parents (both of them, not just the single mother) need to take a little more responsibility for the welfare of their children. It doesn’t take a village, it takes a couple responsible parents.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OK, I’ll bite…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many people think the S-CHIP bill is necessary, myself included. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some Republican Congresspeople who are inclined to sustain Bush’s veto, for whatever reason, are willing to vote against the veto if they get what they want, which is this damaging overhaul of the FISA bill and no accountability from this Administration OR the telcos. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, in the abstract, one can shrug and say “Eh, it’s just politics.” But in a very real sense, the ability for children to get insurance hinges on whether or not this government gets greater ability (and less accountability) to spy on anyone who might be considered to be engaged in terrorist activities or suspected of such. No need to prove why someone is suspected. Let us spy on anyone the Bushies want to spy on, or no insurance for kids.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In that sense, one could make the argument that some that the welfare of these children is being held for ransom, and with some literary hyperbole, the Repubs are using fear tactics to get what they want, which is what terrorists do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1034979"><em>Kurt @ 108</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1034922"><em>eRobin @ 99</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Wow.  That was upsetting.  Truly frightening and very very sad.  </p>
<p>I finished my post about an SCHIP compromise and why it’s unacceptable.  It’s <a href="http://casadelogo.typepad.com/factesque/2007/10/no-room-for-com.html">here</a>. Since the veto has a good chance of being sustained, it’s important that when we call our Congresspeople, we tell them NO COMPROMISE.</p>
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<p>eRobin,</p>
<p>I read your blog, why are you comparing the Republicans/GOP to terrorists? You make the argument that the pubs are holding children hostage…are you out of your mind?? That would be political suicide if it was true. Trust me, the GOP is in reverse right now trying to win back their base…they are not going to pass anything that is overly inflated and inefficient, nor are they going to do anything stupid and go against the ‘will of the children’.</p>
<p>On a side note, has anyone noticed the more money we throw at issues relating to children, the more screwed up our children are becoming? I think parents (both of them, not just the single mother) need to take a little more responsibility for the welfare of their children. It doesn’t take a village, it takes a couple responsible parents.</p>
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<p>OK, I’ll bite…</p>
<p>Many people think the S-CHIP bill is necessary, myself included. </p>
<p>Some Republican Congresspeople who are inclined to sustain Bush’s veto, for whatever reason, are willing to vote against the veto if they get what they want, which is this damaging overhaul of the FISA bill and no accountability from this Administration OR the telcos. </p>
<p>Now, in the abstract, one can shrug and say “Eh, it’s just politics.” But in a very real sense, the ability for children to get insurance hinges on whether or not this government gets greater ability (and less accountability) to spy on anyone who might be considered to be engaged in terrorist activities or suspected of such. No need to prove why someone is suspected. Let us spy on anyone the Bushies want to spy on, or no insurance for kids.</p>
<p>In that sense, one could make the argument that some that the welfare of these children is being held for ransom, and with some literary hyperbole, the Repubs are using fear tactics to get what they want, which is what terrorists do.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Kurt@103&quot;&gt;Kurt@103&lt;/a&gt;   “The majority of business owners are small. We simply cannot do it.”  Do you enjoy tax exempt status like the Healthcare services and insurers.  You cannot afford it.  The taxpayer has been subsidizing, healthcare  costs for decades.  For instance Blue Cross Blue Shield is listed as a “Public Charity.”  They enjoy tax exempt status as 501 c 3.  Now in *assachsettes, if you have no health insurance you are mandated by law to puchase it and if you do not you suffer tax consquences, while the providers and insurers have insulated themsevles from change with tax exempt status, and make millioons!  What a deal for America.  This is obnoxious to me!  The fact that tax exempt status is swept under the rug amd not even mentioned.  In matters that impact my Life, Liberty and “Happiness” and the future opportunities for my children, I do not care how the message is sent to politcal leaders.  The more obnoxious the better.  Never was it intended that political free speech be civil. THe very nature of politcal free speech and the issues involved lends itself to “charged issues.”  The first thing a fascist will do is attack your “delivery” before they, attack you, while faiing to address the inherent merit in a question they do not want to answer.  A little fist fighting in Congress would be good for America, rather than Americans dying for the black gold in Iraq while Bin Lauden Lives and American lose their homes to foreclosure and bankruptcy, because of the cost of healtcare paided to a tax exempt healtcare industry in America. We pay and pay and pay some more while billions of dollars are spent conducting war, to continue our dependency and line the pockets of the oil whores.  Grossness in America!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:Kurt@103">Kurt@103</a>   “The majority of business owners are small. We simply cannot do it.”  Do you enjoy tax exempt status like the Healthcare services and insurers.  You cannot afford it.  The taxpayer has been subsidizing, healthcare  costs for decades.  For instance Blue Cross Blue Shield is listed as a “Public Charity.”  They enjoy tax exempt status as 501 c 3.  Now in *assachsettes, if you have no health insurance you are mandated by law to puchase it and if you do not you suffer tax consquences, while the providers and insurers have insulated themsevles from change with tax exempt status, and make millioons!  What a deal for America.  This is obnoxious to me!  The fact that tax exempt status is swept under the rug amd not even mentioned.  In matters that impact my Life, Liberty and “Happiness” and the future opportunities for my children, I do not care how the message is sent to politcal leaders.  The more obnoxious the better.  Never was it intended that political free speech be civil. THe very nature of politcal free speech and the issues involved lends itself to “charged issues.”  The first thing a fascist will do is attack your “delivery” before they, attack you, while faiing to address the inherent merit in a question they do not want to answer.  A little fist fighting in Congress would be good for America, rather than Americans dying for the black gold in Iraq while Bin Lauden Lives and American lose their homes to foreclosure and bankruptcy, because of the cost of healtcare paided to a tax exempt healtcare industry in America. We pay and pay and pay some more while billions of dollars are spent conducting war, to continue our dependency and line the pockets of the oil whores.  Grossness in America!!!</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kurt @ 115:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Frosts are the parent of the 12 year old boy that spoke up in support of SCHIP a couple of weeks ago.  The parents that many of the folks on the right have taken great pleasure in trashing because they had the audacity to question the president and try to live a life that would seemingly be the poster family for following the rules, keeping the family together.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt @ 115:</p>
<p>The Frosts are the parent of the 12 year old boy that spoke up in support of SCHIP a couple of weeks ago.  The parents that many of the folks on the right have taken great pleasure in trashing because they had the audacity to question the president and try to live a life that would seemingly be the poster family for following the rules, keeping the family together.</p>
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