If al Qaeda in Iraq is the central problem we face, then this WaPo story suggesting we’ve beaten AQI means we can declare victory and start withdrawing. Right?
Of course, if the Administration’s focus on AQI was just self-serving misdirection, or if Bush/Cheney have other reasons for building the largest embassy in the world and several permanent bases in Iraq, then it matters that Blackwater may soon be expelled from Iraq:
The Iraqi investigators issued five recommendations to the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, which has since sent them to the U.S. Embassy as demands for action. Point No. 2 in the report says:
“The Iraqi government should demand that the United States stops using the services of Blackwater in Iraq within six months and replace it with a new, more disciplined organization that would be answerable to Iraqi laws.”
Sami al-Askari, a top aide to al-Maliki, said that point in the Iraqi list of demands was nonnegotiable.
“I believe the government has been clear. There have been attacks on the lives of Iraqi citizens on the part of that company (Blackwater). It must be expelled. The government has given six months for its expulsion and it’s left to the U.S. Embassy to determine with Blackwater when to terminate the contract. The American administration must find another company,” he told AP.
Last night, CBS’ Lara Logan interviewed Blackwater CEO Erik Prince on 60 Minutes. Prince was unapologetic, sounding like Ollie North in defending his patriotic war against America’s enemies. Prince claimed that Blackwater armored vehicles had been fired on, a claim Logan said CBS had no way to confirm. The AP story, however, suggests a State Department coverup:
One [witness who reported Blackwater helicopters opening fire] was 20-year-old Ahmed Abdul-Timan, who works as a guard at the tunnel that runs under the square. He told AP that the initial U.S. investigative team tried to intimidate him into changing his story about the helicopters firing. He said the interrogation lasted three hours.
“Four or five days after the incident,” Abdul-Timan said, “there was a second investigation but the questioning was done by a U.S. Army major. It was much easier. They videotaped what I said, took my phone number and address. The major tried to comfort us, saying he and his men love the Iraqi people and want to help them.”
Abdul-Timan’s account squares with others that indicated the first investigation by State Department personnel appeared to be an attempt to vindicate the Blackwater guards. The U.S. military conducted the second investigation and was more sympathetic.
The Blackwater incident is just part of a larger pattern of US devaluing the lives and rights of Iraqis. US military forces have recently killed dozens of Iraq civilians in situations that had equally unsatisfactory explanations.
(1) On October 6, the senior officer assigned to recommend charges against the Marines involved in killing 24 civilians at Haditha recommended reduced or no charges, arguing not only that there was insufficient evidence to bring murder charges — investigators had failed to preserve evidence and witnesses — but that pressing charges would undermine Marine morale and support for their mission.
(2) A week ago, the US called in air strikes against suspected “criminal” armed gunmen, kiling 25, but the local Iraqis claim the victims were either innocent civilians or locals involved in neighborhood protection organized to repel al Qaeda attacks.
(3) Also last week, a similiar incident resulted in US airstrikes killing 15 civilians, including 6 women and 9 children. US officials blamed it on the enemy hiding among civilians. (A Shia Minister agreed; note the victims were all Sunni). But this explanation is telling:
“The enemy has a vote here,” Admiral Smith said, “and when he chooses to surround himself with civilians and then fire upon U.S. forces, our forces have no choice but to return a commensurate amount of fire. Which is what they did last evening.”
(4) The US Senate passed a non-binding resolution recommending Iraq devolve more power to regional governments and loosen centralized control. Whatever the merits of “soft-partition,” Iraqis reacted with almost universal condemnation of the American disregard of Iraqi sovereignty.
On CNN Sunday, Lindsey Graham repeated his threat that if the al Maliki government does not take advantage of the surge-created “security environment” to reach political reconciliation within 90 days, the US should stomp its feet or something. As Zbigniew Brzezinski told Blitzer, “that’s colonialism.” Like too many Americans, Graham assumes only his impatience matters, but as Juan Cole reports, Iraqis see it differently.
Update: File under supreme irony: LA Times asks whether security contractors like Blackwater fit the definition of “unlawful enemy combatants.” (h/t wigwam) Newsweek has more on Blackwater’s reputation.
AP Photo of Blackwater USA helicopter, Marko Drobnjakovik file.
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Zed! Scarecrow you are too good to me!
Caw, caw! Good morning Scarecrow!
The AP story, however, suggests a State Department coverup:
I’m shocked, shocked I tell you, at the suggestion that this Administration is being less than honest.
Blackwater being discussed on C-Spans Washington Journal right now
http://www.c-span.org/homepage…..iveDays=30
Blackwater Is Soaked
An arrogant attitude only adds fuel to the criticism.
Gervasio Sanchez / AP
Tough-Guy Reputation: Blackwater security contractors taking part in a fire fight in
By Rod Nordland and Mark Hosenball
Newsweek
Oct. 15, 2007 issue – The colonel was furious. “Can you believe it? They actually drew their weapons on U.S. soldiers.” He was describing a 2006 car accident, in which an SUV full of Blackwater operatives had crashed into a U.S. Army Humvee on a street in Baghdad’s Green Zone. The colonel, who was involved in a follow-up investigation and spoke on the condition he not be named, said the Blackwater guards disarmed the U.S. Army soldiers and made them lie on the ground at gunpoint until they could disentangle the SUV. His account was confirmed by the head of another private security company. Asked to address this and other allegations in this story, Blackwater spokesperson Anne Tyrrell said, “This type of gossip has led to many soap operas in the press.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21…../newsweek/
Every one should read Blackwater. I havent gotten too far into it but its such a clear picture of what has been done to the Iraqi people and why.
The Haditha coverup and whitewash are a national shame. Little children were murdered. There were witnesses and a signed police report. Aren’t we better than this?
Ollie North! I saw part of that interview on 60 minutesand I had such a sense of deja vue. I couldn’t put my finger on who Prince reminded me of, but your right, it’s Ollie North.
Nice pickup!
The Bush administration and many of our Reps have been demanding over and over again that the Iraqi government needs to “step up to the plate and accept responsibility for the direction of their country”.
So now that the Iraqi government is telling Blackwater to get the hell out, will the Bush administration and our Reps do their very best to undermine the Iraqi government?
Will they undermine the Iraqi governments demands and then start playing the “blame the Iraq” game again?
looseheadprop @ 8
Yep. I expect the right wing to pick up on this today; Prince will be a hero by tomorrow, with clips showing how he stood up to that “girl” on the liberal CBS.
Good morning, everyone.
Morning pups. Coffee and a shot of Scarecrow’s adrenaline to get the day going.
America’s enterprise in Iraq is unabashedly colonialist. The administration never made any secret of it, except to Americans, and sad to say, our fellow Americans (as LBJ used to call us) would have accepted it had we won in Iraq. It still boggles their administration that a race of brown people could mount such effective resistance to our shock and awe. We are now reduced to randomly murdering them in the streets, to show them who’s who and what’s what.
On a different topic, there is an excellent post over at Kos on Blackwater that includes an exceptionally perceptive discussion of the nature of the Bush administration. It would have been highly relevant to yesterday’s conversation with John Dean. The point made is essentially that unlike European fascism, which glorified the state as the embodiment of the nation, our present brand is really a kind of throwback to old-style pre-Voting Rights southern politics, and the politics of company towns before FDR.
I think this line of reasoning has a lot of promise, and fits in with Tula’s and other’s points about the need to resuscitate the American Labour Movement as an essential prop to our democracy (such as it remains).
reposted from a thread yesterday . . .
From a Sept 30th WaPo chat with reporter Dana Priest:
That’s a truly scary thought. If this is what the “most professional” of the private security firms look like . . .
C&L has the video on Lindsey Graham responding to General Sanchez criticisms of US leadership. Sanchez is about to become the next victim to swift boating. But they’re playing with fire, because I think Sanchez knows about how Rumsfeld et al were informed early on about Abu Ghraib, and if the right tries to pin it on Sanchez, he’ll have more to say.
When Erik Prince testified several Reps brought up the “alleged” hiring of foreign soldiers by Blackwater. There was a reference to Chilean Commandoes who “allegedly” had criminal records.
Several reps also brought up the “War Crimes Act”.
Wonder if there is anyone considering prosecuting Blackwater under this act.
egregious @ 7
The thing is, if the State Department gets a new contractor as Iraq is demanding one of two uncomfortable results happen:
1) the new company hires the newly out of work Blackwater grunts; or
2) there are a whole bunch of angry, out of work, hired killers, some with Post-traumatic Stress Disease either coming home to the US, or, if State tries to honor the contract, being deployed to guard our embesassies elsewhere.
It’s hard enough for military vetrans to be reassimilated into peaceful society and they have the support of thier communites andsome offical rights and some VA benefits.
Remember how difficult it was for Viat Nam veterans to come home and be called “baby killers” and other things b/c the rest of the country did not support the war? At least they had the uniform and the traditions for comfort. At least some segment of the population will always support the troops, no matter how much they hate the war. They had the VA and vetrans clubs.
Mercenaries have no status, there is no proud tradition, no segment of society supports them. There won’t be any purple hearts or other ribbons. Nothing to soften their re-entry.
These guys are going to be coming home to a suburb near you, angry, psycholigically damaged and with zero infrastructure to help them transition.
Oh, and they are trained to react with violence.
Good Morning!
Here’s a taste of Erik Prince of Blackwater on Charlie Rose
more of the same
it’s hard to type with sleeping purring cat on lap
Now the administration is worried that Blackwater personnel might be legally classified as “illegal Combatants”: http://www.latimes.com/news/na…..ome-center
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319798/
New U.S. Embassy in Iraq cloaked in mystery
Baghdad locale, slated to be completed in 2007, to be largest of its kind
Updated: 5:45 p.m. ET April 14, 2006
BAGHDAD, Iraq – The fortress-like compound rising beside the Tigris River here will be the largest of its kind in the world, the size of Vatican City, with the population of a small town, its own defense force, self-contained power and water, and a precarious perch at the heart of Iraq’s turbulent future.
The new U.S. Embassy also seems as cloaked in secrecy as the ministate in Rome.
“We can’t talk about it. Security reasons,” Roberta Rossi, a spokeswoman at the current embassy, said when asked for information about the project.
Story continues below ↓
lhp — re the “mercenary” tag, I thought it interesting that Prince went out of his way to say his guys are not mercenaries, who he equates with foreigners. “We are Americans hired by Americans to protect Americans and help American soldiers” (paraphrasing). So the storyline will be, these are the “real soldiers.”
Kathleen @ 18
I think it’s way behind schedule. What a surprise!
looseheadprop @ 8
The WORST Interview I’ve EVER SEEN On “60 Minutes”…and that includes the ones where Andy Rooney used to interview himself!!!
Not a single question about the origins of many of his employees from Serbian paramilitaries, the Apartheid South African Army, or pre-Democracy Latin American dictatorships. Only about 10% of the security forces of Blackwater are reportedly American citizens.
No questions about whether these foreign “employees” are part of the forces that would serve in the US in a domestic emergency? Mercenaries from Serbia and S. Africa shooting up American cities?
No questions about what Blackwater does to avoid shooting civilians.
No questions about the drunk employee who killed an Iraqi Ministers bodygaurd.
Nary a word about the measly compensation offered by Blackwater for negligent deaths of Iraqi civilians.
No questions about why Blackwater gets contracted to protect American diplomats, rather than the Marines? Or the Army?
Or why Polish and other diplomats with armed forces serving in Iraq are not using those troops to protect their own delegations?
Why is the US picking up the tab, through a Blackwater contract, for the security of these foreign diplomats?
No questions about whether paying a BILLION DOLLARS to a paramilitary mercenary organization is ENCOURAGING the loss of US troops from serving in the military? If US troops were assigned to these security details there wouldn’t be a contractor out there offering huge salaries and bonuses in competition to the much smaller salaries of those serving in the US Military.
Most of these questions didn’t need any sort of information that “developed” over the weekend.
wigwam @ 17
Wow. That actually occurred to me; supreme irony. Thanks for the link; I put it in an update.
Scarecrow @ 19
Americans? Did Blackwater write grants of citizenship for their hires from Chile, South Africa, and elsewhere into their contracts with DOD, State, and Justice ?
Can someone ask Hillary something like: if you are President, will you look into the actions of and investigations into the Bush Administration that were held up because of secrecy claims and prosecute them if they were illegal? Or will we just be moving on?
watching the interview last night I thought 2 things… one, that the reporter was probably going to have to rely on Blackwater or was worried about her safety while in Iraq and two, that Prince elicited a favor from some bigwig at CBS… the whole thing was just wierd.
morning all, coffee is ready.
Peterr @ 23
“Why do you hate our troops?”
Peterr @ 12
Well, the Hell’s Angels have been doing “security” since Altamount…a few years longer than Blackwater.
BTW Anyone know if Blackwater has any sort of “Rules of Engagement”? Seems that their policy is to open up with everything in all directions to “clear ground” and then split the area, ramming civilian vehicles if necessary to clear a route.
Peterr @ 23
I was cracking up during Prince’s testimony to the HJC where he claimed that there were no problems because Blackwater “checked the criminal databases in these countries.” That’s just one of many ludicrous statements the man has made.
Scarecrow @ 22
From the LA story
“For a guard who is only allowed to use defensive force, killing civilians violates the law of war, said Michael N. Schmitt, a professor of international law at the Naval War College and a former Air Force lawyer. “It is a war crime to kill civilians unlawfully in an armed conflict,” he said.”
So is this why Reps brought up the War Crimes Act during Erik Prince’s testimony?
Would Blackwater guards be defined as “enemy combatants” not “prisoners of war” if they were captured?
I’d be interested to see what the liability would be if the US cancels the contract with Blackwater – bet me they get paid full value.
looseheadprop @ 15
This is truly frightening to me, but I think many of these guys are supplementing military retiremement $ with the private contractor gig. I listened to an old “This American Life” episode last night where the producer was in Baghdad for weeks (2004)(broadcast 05) and traveled around with various private guys, security, reconstruction engineers and even the HR person for one (Custer Battle I think). The impression I was left with was that they are “patriots” just doing a job, no overarching concern beyond that. True Believers who will just move on to the next high-paying gig in the next war-torn country. Sadly, there are many. It was an interesting listen, linked here for anyone interested.
http://www.thislife.org/Radio_…..pisode=266
I wish I could pull video from my DVR so I could post this. Fox Noise this morning from around 3 AM CST to 5 AM CST at the top and the bottom of each hour reported this story.
They ended the segment with, “mostly likely Blackwater’s personnel, facilities, and equipment would be moved to another contractor.”
They stopped saying this after the 5 AM report.
My gut is somebody from the State Department gave them a call. But I can see how this would be true. We know so little about Blackwater, I can only guess we have no ideas what the names of these people are. And since we’ve heard they are “so needed” isn’t this just the perfect solution.
Scarecrow @ 19
From http://www.dictionary.com: mer·ce·nar·y Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation[mur-suh-ner-ee] Pronunciation Key – Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, noun, plural -nar·ies.
–adjective 1. working or acting merely for money or other reward; venal.
2. hired to serve in a foreign army, guerrilla organization, etc.
–noun 3. a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army.
4. any hireling.
——————————————————————————–
[Origin: 1350–1400; ME mercenarie working for pay, hired worker, mercenary, perh., repr. earlier *mercéd(i)nārius, equiv. to *mercédin-, s. of *mercédō, a by-form of mercés, s. mercéd- payment, wage (akin to merx goods; cf. merchant) -ārius -ary]
Both the original meaning and the new adjectival meaning are the same – working for pay. I cannot imagine that Mr. Prince could possibly claim that the people who are toting guns for him in Iraq et al. are NOT working for pay. If they were NOT working solely for pay (that is, they were toting guns out of patiotism), they would have signed up with the US military forces. It is rather difficult and disengenuous for him to imagine that being paid 6 times the salary to do what is essentially the same task has no influence whatsoever. These folks are mercenary. They may not be technically “mercenaries”, but they ARE mercenary.
When I think about the size of the “US Embassy in Iraq” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319798/. Then think about the agenda of the right wing radicals for a “Clean (so fucking bloody) Break A New Strategy for Securing the Realm” http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm
The sphere of influence from the Tigris to the
Euphrates.
Oil Israel and Water in the middle east.
Who controls the water?
http://www.journalismfellowshi….._peace.htm
OT, or maybe not
I just discovered that one of my former professors (Roger Myerson) is one of three who were named Nobel Laureates in Economics this morning! Woo Hoo!!
Myerson’s general field is game theory, and he had an op-ed in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune back in Feb 2003 entitled “The Dangers of Going It Alone.” [pdf] His concluding thoughts are these:
It sounds like Iraq, in wanting to hold Blackwater (and Blackwater’s employer) accountable, is doing just what Myerson said: “If America now claims dominant power in the world community, then we must be prepared for other nations to judge how we may use it.”
I hadn’t seen this op-ed until browsing his CV after clicking through the links at the Nobel website. When you look at his warning from four years ago, it’s striking to see how on target he was.
Tommy @ 32
I’m curious why you would record FauxNews overnight?
I have really bad insomnia and feel asleep with it on watch the last edition of Bill O, cause I like to hear first hand what the right is saying. And as I laid in bed tossing and turning I kept hearing this report.
Peterr @ 35
Peterr, you were clearly fortunate in having this man as an example and teacher, reflected in the wisdom you bring to us here at FDL.
Zenn
How are your eyes?
Tommy @ 37
Sorry about your insomnia, but suspected something like this. A backup for Media Matters, I see, and good for you. As one who has no TV media access by choice, I appreciate all who watchdog the nutjobs and report back on their activities.
The LA Times piece on the status of blackwater finishes up with a really stupid question, being why didn’t they think out the complexities first?
Because Dick and Don didn’t CARE that’s why.
Scarecrow @ 19
I thought that Prince’s original gambit was to blame this on “sub-contractors”. Now he is saying that HE is hired by Americans and that he only hires Americans? Or maybe he is talking about the corporate “we”…being based in North Carolina, and such.
“To protect Americans”?
To recall George Bush, “Don’t Forget Poland!”
“Help American Soldiers”? Yep! Let me help you with those weapons, put them on the ground and place your hands on your helmets! Or we will blow you away!
Or maybe he means “Look…we assisted these neer-do-wells with jobs that paid a fortune when they didn’t want to serve in the military anymore!
Ace Sec’y of State Condi Rice will surly fix all these Blackwater problems, right?
Badwater @ 43
Only if the Condi has had her morning coffee [edit] – in which case, she will be very very surly.
[Mod: No references to violence against public officials, even indirect.]
raven @ 39
b-)
(zennurse with eyepatch)
thanks for asking, raven, progress is going to be slow, not much change for at least two more weeks in terms of vision, but the repaired area and gas bubble put in to hold it are intact. The hardest thing is the extreme limitation in activity and the fatigue if I use my eyes much at all. I was also hit emotionally by this because I had to cancel a long-planned trip to Taos, NM to visit my son who I haven’t seen for over a year. But it is an emergency and could nt be delayed.
I sincerely appreciate your asking.
zen
cinnamonape @ 42
Or, the more obvious explaination is that he is lying through his teeth and hoping that one of these falsehoods sticks tothe wall.
Sorry for the mixed metapphor. He’s just throwing stuff out there that has no hope of being true and hoping something sticks.
It is for this reason, that it good to stay one him and be a truth squad so none of this fantasy of his becomes accepted wisdom.
David Satterfield’s testimony during the Blackwater hearings intrigued me.
“Satterfield defended Blackwater in his testimony. Satterfield
testified that State Department policies on private security
contractors “only allow for the use of force when absolutely
necesssary to address imminent and grave danger against those under
their protection, themselves, and others.”
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/
41857
Why is it that Satterfield was appointed this position when he is “allegedly” under investigation in the Franklin/ Rosen/Weissman espionage case?
At JTA
“Calling out Satterfield
By Ron Kampeas
USGO-2 will be taking your questions now.
If that sounds cryptic it’s not entirely inappropriate – USGO-2 is kind of cryptic. He’s otherwise known as David Satterfield, the top Iraq adviser to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. But, as U.S. Government Official no. 2, he’s the unindicted co-conspirator Increase Font Size:
in the classified information case against Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman, respectively the former foreign policy chief and top Iran analyst for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.
Chetnolian @ 41
Dick and Don are getting $$ from these contracts, if I’m not crazy. Didn’t we figure that out a while ago, in terms of Halliburton, KBR, etc?
zennurse @ 38
Thanks. I consider myself fortunate as well.
zennurse @ 45
Move carefully, Zennurse – (and I love the little “pirate sign”) – I had a prosthesis put into one of my ears, was not careful and the darned thing slipped out….move…carefully…
looseheadprop @ 46
Prince seemed to attempt to define each individual Blackwater guard as a “private contractor”
looseheadprop @ 46
It’s depressing that he’s getting Ollie Northy
lhp — what you said about the returning mercenaries @ 15! This needs to be addressed up front, not as the fallout mounts. And there will be fallout.
This mercenary-for-the-world needs to be nipped in the bloomin’ bud.
(((zennurse)))
sorry for the delay, i’m way behind on everything the last couple of days. here’s your weekly congressional hearings update:
Note: the House Rules Committee will be meeting Tuesday on the rule for consideration of the the FISA “RESTORE ACT”, so it looks like the House will be considering this flawed bill on Wednesday, while the superior FISA bill from Russ Holt stays stuck in committee.
Here’s my selected short list:
Tuesday, 9:30 am – House Judiciary
Hearing on: Jena 6 and the Role of Federal Intervention in Hate Crimes and Race-Related Violence in Public Schools
Wednesday, ?? – House Science and Technology
Disappearing Polar Bears and Permafrost: Is a Global Warming Tipping Point Embedded in the Ice?
Wednesday, 10 am – Senate Committee on Judiciary
To hold hearings to examine the nomination of Michael B. Mukasey, of New York, to be Attorney General.
Wednesday, 10 am – House Oversight and Government Affairs
EPA Approval of New Power Plants: Failure to Address Global Warming Pollutants
Wednesday, 2 pm – House Science and Technology
Women in Academic Science and Engineering
Wednesday, 2 pm – House Foreign Affairs
Oversight Hearing: Crisis in Burma: Can the U.S. Bring about a Peaceful Resolution?
Thursday, 10 am – House Oversight and Government Affairs
Hearing on Black Carbon and Global Warming
Thursday, 2 pm – House Foreign Affairs and House Judiciary
Joint Oversight Hearing: Rendition to Torture: The Case of Maher Arar
Please click the link for more details and to see the full list, including hearings on superfund, veteran’s disability, secure identity documents, G.I. Bill, mining on public lands, military health care and recruitment, the clean water act, health insurance, iraq reconstruction, agricultural economy, intellectual property, enforcement of the Hatch Act, lead and children’s health, international trade, oversight of the DOT, miner safety, digital television transition, FAA, U.S.-Russia economic relationship, medicare, iraq reconstruction, international trafficking and slavery, and more.
… and can i just say how pissed off i am that Mukasey’s nomination for AG is being considered before the SJC gets the info owed them?
Kathleen @ 51
That’s interesting – if memory serves, Prince claimed that they had several hundred “employees” and the rest were “private contractors”. I’m wondering if the “employees” are the lucky folks who are located here in the US at headquarters and the guys toting guns are actually what they are referring to as “independent contractors”.
I already beat my head on the wall in a former thread on this – I think the argument can be made that the people toting guns are NOT independent contractors in the IRS/legal sense. But I realize there are others who do not agree with me.
I don’t know if anyone else noticed, but Prince’s haircut (a little dab of hair running over his forehead) ( http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/im…..61952g.jpg ) reminded me of someone else. All he would need is a little black mustache. ( http://www.insidesocal.com/godblog/Hitler.JPG )
Tommy @ 32
On Diane Rehm’s news summary on Friday during the Blackwater discussion,
the Administration water carrierone guest was saying how, even if Blackwater gets the boot, that its personnel will stay the same-only the T-shirts will change to something like “Dyncorps.”Toby Wollin @ 50
I take the whole thing completely seriously; it takes a lot for me to agree up front not to work for 6 weeks. the one good thing is that I can’t bend over at all, so simple things we all take for granted, putting cat food down, picking up a dropped pen, require deep knee bends.
Remember that old video “Buns of Steel”???
(always trying to look on the bright side, your resident Pollyanna)
Until I heal, I can’t read, and that means limited FDL, so you bet I’m being good.
Did anyone else listen to Satterfield’s testimony during the Blackwater hearing?
Calling out Satterfield
By Ron Kampeas
USGO-2 will be taking your questions now.
If that sounds cryptic it’s not entirely inappropriate – USGO-2 is kind of cryptic. He’s otherwise known as David Satterfield, the top Iraq adviser to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. But, as U.S. Government Official no. 2, he’s the unindicted co-conspirato
in the classified information case against Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman, respectively the former foreign policy chief and top Iran analyst for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.
Count one in the August 2005 indictment includes meetings between Rosen and USGO-2 as an “overt act,” in which Satterfield – then second in charge at the State Department’s Middle East section – allegedly relayed classified information to Rosen, and which Rosen allegedly re-relayed to colleagues at AIPAC and to Israeli officials.
So why is Rosen out of a job, under constant FBI watch and facing an Espionage Act trial — and Satterfield climbing the diplomatic ladder? It’s a question begging for an answer. And while Satterfield appears frequently before Jewish audiences, no one asks it.
Why is Satterfield climbing the diplomatic ladder when he is “allegedly” US GO 2 in the A*P*C case?
http://jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/blogs/posting/767.html
Caw Caw- Does anyone think that Blackwater will just change their name?
Kathleen @51
If I understand it right from this am’s Kos piece, he’s right. Blackwater mercenaries are self-employed contractors. For an old corporate lawyer this spells lots of deniability. I tell you from outside the USA it really looks as if you guys have simply given up on the Law of Nations, which is about as terrifying as it gets.
Scarecrow @ 19
Have you read this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21…../newsweek/
zennurse @ 45
Well, hang in there, you know how crucial the proper rehab is.
selise @ 53
Thanks, Selise. RE not getting the info, makes you wonder if Durbin et al will fold on demanding FISA data before considering immunity for the complicity telecoms.
Good Morning all firedogs.
Been reading what you’re talking about.
I agree that the same Blackwater guys will just change their t-shirts. As for Prince, bah! Just another liar. He must have flame-proof pants.
and, OT,
zennurse, I’m sending you patience and healing.
Does anyone know if there is software for the sight impaired that translates the printed word into aural? Like the opposite of voice recognition stuff?
Toby Wollin @ 54
In the radio program linked abouve, there was in interview with the HR director for Custer Battle who was stationed at the Baghdad airport and adored her job. Granted, this was a few years ago, but I expect it is folks like that he’s talking about as employees.
Peterr: Your Nobel Laureate was just described on the BBC!!! Congratulations to him.
Isn’t it abundantly clear that to the right.. the ends justify the means, laws are not encumbrances as there is always a work around. If there’s a law you ignore it, change it, have some judge reinterpret it. It simply does not matter.
It’s also clear that human life is expendable and that they are in it for the money. A billion in security contracts seems like an awful lot for some well trained rent a cops.
The use of private security for US government offices seems to be wrong headed and should be illegal and perhaps a means to shield these officials in an actual and legally impenetrable manner.
Why don’t we know what is going to be going on in the proposed mega embassy?
Why are we allowing so much secrecy in a democracy?
Where is the outrage in congress?
Scarecrow @ 62
yes, bad enough that the House is moving the RESTORE ACT at the speed of light while Holt’s bill stays stuck in committee. i don’t have a good feeling about this… hope/wish there’s something we can do…
ccmask @ 59
They were thinking of changing it to Whitewashwater, but it sounded too much like Whitewater and you know what they think of that.
Kathleen @ 61
Thanks. I’ve added that to the update.
Hiring a “private” army, many of whom are foreign, rather than allowing a well-trained group of ones own National Army to protect smacks of the Praetorian or Swiss Gaurds, other other such forces protecting the king in many authoritarian States.
That usually happens when there is a fear that one’s own troops might mutiny and attack those elites being protected in a coup-de-tat. The despot fears a take-over from the Federal army.
Other such forces include the Janissaries, Slavic children kidnapped from the Balkans, castrated, and psychologically trained to defend the Ottoman Sultan.
So one has to wonder….do Condi and Dubya fear a coup-de-tat or mutiny in Iraq?
Chetnolian @ 60
I am a peasant(gardener, soccer mom) so I know very little about the law. Although I have learned a bit here at FDL during the Libby trial. Have watched years of hearings at C-Span. During the Blackwater hearing, Prince and his lawyers looked very nervous when the “war crimes act” was brought up. It was either just before or after “the War Crimes act” was brought up that Prince started defining each Blackwater guard as an “independent contractor”
Sure sounded oily to me!
Chetnolian @ 60
Oh, my friend, if you’ve been here for a while, you will know that for many of us it looks worse from inside the USA. I remember writing here over a year ago that I hesitate to travel outside the country without some kind of proof of my liberal/progressive lifeblood, so great is my shame.
GeorgeSimian @ 68
Funny
I was trying to place that Prince smirking arrogance. You’re right, it’s pure Ollie North.
Like the opposite of voice recognition stuff?
yes, they are called “screen readers”. Jaws is the most polular one.
Here’s a link to my old workplace and their links
Information Resources > > Assistive Technology > Computers / Peripherals
I would hope that these private security firms would be found to be unlawful and the practice ended.
Wishful thinking?
Dangle high paying jobs and bundle them into no bid contracts and greed rules and shit happens.
Prince and North cut from the same cloth
So one has to wonder….do Condi and Dubya fear a coup-de-tat or mutiny in Iraq?
I’ve wondered about that too.
When I hear about Sanchez and other brave and courageous souls speak out, it makes me wonder how many in the Military would do something to subvert the agenda that the administration seems to be moving towards. Poorly constructed sentence, but it’s So Early. I think you guys know what I’m asking.
Selise thank you so much for posting these congressional hearings. The one at 5 p.m. today sounds interesting.
http://www.netrootsmass.net/Co…..rings.html
MONDAY, October 15, 2007 at 5:00 p.m. in H-313 the Capitol
H.R. 2102 – Free Flow of Information Act of 2007
H.Res. __ – Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives regarding the withholding of information relating to corruption in Iraq.
Jane Hamsher @ 74
Yep, and that’s what your favorite Congressman, Chris Shays, saw. Prince has a “perfect record.”
Spencer Ackerman
my bold
More assitive technolgy links
Visual Impairments
JAWS
Diane Rehm’s program this morning
10:00Howard Kurtz: “Reality Show”
The media reporter for The Washington Post offers a behind-the-scenes look at the making of network news and the state of the modern media.
Guests
Howard Kurtz, Washington Post media reporter, host of CNN’s “Reliable Sources” and author.
11:00Paul Krugman: “The Conscience of a Liberal” (Norton)
The award-winning columnist and professor of economics and international affairs weaves three generations of history with political, social, and economic analysis in a manifesto for a new progressive movement
Guests
Paul Krugman, professor of Economics at Princeton University and columnist for the “New York Times”
http://wamu.org/programs/dr/
raven @ 75
Oh, this is great, thanks so much. I had hesitated to spend money for something to help, but just last night decided I could make a donation of it when I’m done. Have to say goodbye, I’m over my limit, having read the wonderful Dean Book Salon from yesterday, but will research this and enjoy.
You guys just rock!!
Thanks Raven.
Mr. Demi works with computers and hospitals and just told me the same thing.
Comforting to know.
(((((zennurse!))))
Christy has a new post/thread ready.
New thread The Heart of the Matter
raven @ 75
Jaws is about $900 – $1000. Probably a bit too pricey for most folks who have *temporary* vision impairment, unfortunately.
new thread up
PS – over at dkos is a post entitled
“bush authoritarianism Blackwater Amway GOP
zennurse @ 84
Boy, I mangled that, didn’t I?
Anyway, there’s a thank you in there and I go the other links as well, bless your heart.
Kathleen @ 14
Lindsay says Sanchez told him he had enough troops. Lindsay says he asked Sanchez personally if he had enough troops. Lindsay asked with McCain “Hey Sanchez, Do you have enough troops”. Every time Sanchez said he had enough troops. Lindsay said Sanchez was in charge during Abu Ghraib. He ain’t blaming Sanchez, he’s jes sayin he was part of the problem.
Wolf, carrying the water, asks, “Do you think Sanchez is making all this noise because he is retaliating for not getting a fourth star on account of Abu Ghraib?”
Lindsay says, I don’t want to cast any aspersions.
Good Cop, Bad Cop provided by the SCLM. The smear on Sanchez has already begun. See he’s just pissed cuz he didn’t get the star.
Peterr @ 12
Very true. On the other hand the Iraqi seem to be pretty consistently pointing the finger at Blackwater as the source of most of the trouble. Could be the “less professional” outfits aren’t behaving as outrageously because they aren’t under the State Departments protection and coverup?
Worthwhile timeline here.
I just wish this timeline would include the security detail history regarding oil fields and offshore rigs. It’s not called Blackwater for nothing.
Talk about a profit margin in short time. It’s almost as though promises were made a long time ago for government contracts. Companies rarely see growth like this…
EW, here’s another timeline idea!
Blackwater out – and then back in just with a different name, subsidiary, whatever since the Iran war will demand even more mercenaries getting paid for one day what our troops must work a month or more for.
Kathleen @ 79
that’s only the rules committee hearing – to write the rule for consideration on the house floor of the bills listed.
…replay of Gen. Sanchez on CSPAN1
I would like to see some reporting about the Blackwater personnel issue. The entire American military knows the dirty little secret about where their recruitment comes from – ex military. Could their recruitment drop off as their very existence is threatened? Will another equally despicable company step into their shoes? Is this already in the making? You bet!
End the War Now!
Iraq’s right to self determination is obliterated by western oil interests all salivating to get at the “black gold.” The unwillingness of to give give Iraq its right to self determination is the same reason Iran’s democratically elected Prime Minster was replaced with the Shah. Control of a needed resource and to protect British investments. A short short sighted policy. The real motivation behind the Iraq occupation are “energy business” related. America’s energy needs and the “rule of law” do not mesh to well. SO our leaders “fabricate” reasons to circumvent the rule of law “domestic and international,” protecting corporate business interests, while making a “billions of dollars,” and the future of America is mortgaged in the process. Real American Principles at work here……………
So now the State Department is the bad guys and Defense are the good guys? I’m so confused… Wasn’t it just a short while ago that the media was vilifying DoD for sabotaging State’s efforts at all things good and moderate?
You know, if I were that Iraqi security guard at the tunnel who endured two interviews, I swear I’d think it was a good-cop/bad cop routine. In short, I’d think I would be treated like a criminal instead of a witness.
=Duties of Citizens=
“No government can be maintained without the principle of fear as
well as duty. Good men will obey the last, but bad ones the
former only. If our government ever fails, it will be from this
weakness.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Wayles Eppes, 1814.
One thing I’d like to know. Did, or did not, Iraq order BW out of the country?
Why has the media not answered this very simple question?
twolf1 @ 97
Gen. Maj. Smedley Butler, wonder what his take would be on this fiasco!!!!!
It is time to compel Colin Powell to testify before Congress!!!!!! What is America waiting for?
casual observer @ 103
Overruled by the ruler…………
James Joyce @ 105
Yes Yes Yes
James Joyce @ 105
a congress interested in getting to the bottom of the greatest scandals of this decade?
James Joyce @ 106
When the Iraqi government tries to “step up to the plate” the Bush administration breaks the plate. And then they play the “blame the Iraqi” card.
selise @ 108
The “asselephants” ruled by corporate have no interest in “investigating,” themselves. The power of the cumulative “corporate lobbies”
forewarned by Jefferson, identified by Ike, have taken it the next level. If you connect the dots, this is the “1933 Business Plan,” realized. The common thread, “interests,” benefiting from our involvement in Iraq, is not the American people or long term national security, based on sound energy policies and certainly not the Iraqi people. The interests which benefit are wealthy industrial corporations whose interests are often at odds with the interests of Americans.
Some words from a founder…..
“No ground of support for the Executive will ever be so sure as a
complete knowledge of their proceedings by the people; and it is
only in cases where the public good would be injured, and
BECAUSE it would be injured, that proceedings should be secret.
In such cases it is the duty of the Executive to sacrifice their
personal interest (which would be promoted by publicity) to the
public interest.” –Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1793.
then it matters that Blackwater may soon be expelled from Iraq
Hopefully we all know that Blackwater has been given a domestic five year, 15 Billion dollar contract to work in “the drug war”? Ask yourself this: what are mercenaries, who are not by any stretch sworn lawmen, being given a domestic contract like this for? Picture yourself having nothing to do with drugs at all and suddenly waking up to the shouts of a half a dozen thugs who have broken down your door, shot your dog, handcuffed your children and are now slamming your spouse with the butt of an assault weapon. Why you? Maybe you posted a comment on a forum like this that some repugnant Bushie took offense at, and given that they have the ability to wiretap you without any warrant, and trace your internet traffic, traced the comment down to your residence….or maybe it was your neighbor, they don’t really give a shit, as long as they’ve got a taxpayer funded private army doing their bidding, terrifying citizens into becoming silent and compliant to the new police state, the suspension of elections and President-for-Life Bush.
Face it, with these assholes using “the drug war” as cover, they can arrest anyone on whatever fabricated evidence they choose to bother with, destroy reputations, shatter careers, arrest you for “terrorism” for which you’ll have no lawyer to respond to the no charges and generally terrorize the nation. This mercenary army didn’t just spring up out of nowhere, it’s been in the plans for years, and it’s purpose for being spells doom for our democracy.
Believe it or not, I don’t have that much of an opinion one way or another on this issue. I’m not saying that I’m not interested, just that I don’t have enough information to form what I consider a valid opinion.
But a few things jumped out at me when I read this:
1.
… “no way to confirm” is absolutely not a rebuttal of what the man says. Funny how people often treat it like it is. In fact, it really doesn’t add much of anything at all to the story, does it?
2. It appears that the State Dept really did not handle their investigation well. Interesting though that you find that the army did. I always thought the army was bad, evil even…
3. I’m not sure how “telling” the explanation given in (3), above, is.
Are you saying that if the enemy shoots from a group of civillians, when there is no way to tell who is who but the one thing that is pretty clear is that someone (or more accurately a lot of someones) are trying to kill you, you should just stand there and get killed? Run away? Something else?
Am I missing an option here??
dude
With a good cop/bad cop routine, I thought the bad cop always went first. Then the good cop comes in, all apologetic and nice, act like he will protect you if he can, and gets the info he wants from you that way.
Isn’t this more the opposite situation?
nobody from nowhere
I didn’t know that the source of Blackwater personnel was a “dirty little secret”. I knew they are ex-military and I have nothing at all to do with the military.
But I wanted to ask you… I didn’t get your comment about their recruitment dropping off as their existence is threatened. Whose recruitment will drop off? Blackwater’s?
OK.
Say.Blackwater.is.kicked.out.of.Iraq.
That.means.they.will.be.coming.back.here.
Do.we.really.want.that.
I.dont.
Are you saying that if the enemy shoots from a group of civillians, when there is no way to tell who is who but the one thing that is pretty clear is that someone (or more accurately a lot of someones) are trying to kill you, you should just stand there and get killed? Run away? Something else?
Am I missing an option here??
Good grief. Are you actually trying to justify killing civilians because of some imagined “enemy” in their midst? This is *exactly* why we shouldn’t be in Iraq, *exactly* why it’s like Viet Nam, *exactly* why a war against a strong insurgency can’t be won. These Blackwater clowns shoot/kill anyone who gets near them and have, thus, justly acquired enemies in Iraq who want to see them dead. Needless to say, this causes mercs to see bad guys everywhere, even when no bad guys are around, and makes them a hideous liability for U.S. policy there. They need to be tossed out of Iraq and their entire organization made illegal in the U.S. (Think about it….how is it that our government tolerates and encourages private armies -that hire out to the highest bidder- within our borders? For all we know, Osama could contract them to act on his behalf, and this administration has given them the highest clearance!!).