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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/look-in-the-freakin-mirror-frankie/#comment-1035272</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1035237&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;pow wow @ 105&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We may be getting back nothing but a depleted, ransacked, mortgaged treasury and an international reputation akin to some of the worst tyrants in history, but get back our Congress we will.  We owe it to the authors of our Constitution, and to the cause of liberty.  Just a small reminder, powers that be, that there are a lot more of us out here, than there are of you in Washington, D.C.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;amen to that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;no matter how long it takes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and history will not look kindly on those who fought against open government and a free society.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1035237"><em>pow wow @ 105</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>We may be getting back nothing but a depleted, ransacked, mortgaged treasury and an international reputation akin to some of the worst tyrants in history, but get back our Congress we will.  We owe it to the authors of our Constitution, and to the cause of liberty.  Just a small reminder, powers that be, that there are a lot more of us out here, than there are of you in Washington, D.C.</p>
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<p>amen to that.</p>
<p>no matter how long it takes.</p>
<p>and history will not look kindly on those who fought against open government and a free society.</p>
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		<title>By: pow wow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/look-in-the-freakin-mirror-frankie/#comment-1035237</link>
		<dc:creator>pow wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, selise @ 102.  How telling is that.  You got ‘em good - right where it hurts.  They know damn well what’s going on, but they didn’t figure anyone would call them on it.  Excellent job.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Open, honest” government, my eye, Nancy Pelosi.  Corporate servants is what these people holding our power in our Congress have reduced themselves to.  They sell us out for pennies on OUR dollar. They are in service to the Rule of Corporate Profit - as is the Executive Branch - and will fiercely resist only those efforts that threaten the life of leisure they’ve constructed for themselves by putting political-faction loyalty before country.  Just the way the Founders predicted such factions would harm the Republic. To these craven, self-serving individuals, our Constitution is but a distant memory, not worth a backward glance or the price of the parchment it’s written on. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Money. Privilege. Status. Power.  Liberty be damned.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But not for much longer.  Their race is run, whether they care to recognize it or not.  We may be getting back nothing but a depleted, ransacked, mortgaged treasury and an international reputation akin to some of the worst tyrants in history, but get back our Congress we will.  We owe it to the authors of our Constitution, and to the cause of liberty.  Just a small reminder, powers that be, that there are a lot more of us out here, than there are of you in Washington, D.C.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, selise @ 102.  How telling is that.  You got ‘em good &#8211; right where it hurts.  They know damn well what’s going on, but they didn’t figure anyone would call them on it.  Excellent job.</p>
<p>“Open, honest” government, my eye, Nancy Pelosi.  Corporate servants is what these people holding our power in our Congress have reduced themselves to.  They sell us out for pennies on OUR dollar. They are in service to the Rule of Corporate Profit &#8211; as is the Executive Branch &#8211; and will fiercely resist only those efforts that threaten the life of leisure they’ve constructed for themselves by putting political-faction loyalty before country.  Just the way the Founders predicted such factions would harm the Republic. To these craven, self-serving individuals, our Constitution is but a distant memory, not worth a backward glance or the price of the parchment it’s written on. </p>
<p>Money. Privilege. Status. Power.  Liberty be damned.  </p>
<p>But not for much longer.  Their race is run, whether they care to recognize it or not.  We may be getting back nothing but a depleted, ransacked, mortgaged treasury and an international reputation akin to some of the worst tyrants in history, but get back our Congress we will.  We owe it to the authors of our Constitution, and to the cause of liberty.  Just a small reminder, powers that be, that there are a lot more of us out here, than there are of you in Washington, D.C.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/look-in-the-freakin-mirror-frankie/#comment-1035215</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1035187&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eureka Springs @ 103&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gaaaaah! I cannot even scream intelligibly about this anymore!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;hi ES.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sorta looking like what happened just before august recess wasn’t really about being rushed…. that was just a convenient excuse.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i wish someone would explain to me how i’m all wrong about this. :(&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1035187"><em>Eureka Springs @ 103</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Gaaaaah! I cannot even scream intelligibly about this anymore!!</p>
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<p>hi ES.</p>
<p>sorta looking like what happened just before august recess wasn’t really about being rushed…. that was just a convenient excuse.</p>
<p>i wish someone would explain to me how i’m all wrong about this. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gaaaaah! I cannot even scream intelligibly about this anymore!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaaaaah! I cannot even scream intelligibly about this anymore!!</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1033799&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;pow wow @ 19&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The FISA bill actually drafted by Members of Congress is the Rush Holt/John Tierney Intelligence Committee bill [H.R. 3782] which has been blocked from a hearing or a vote by the Democratic Committee Chairs apparently at the behest of the Speaker&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;don’t know if you’ll see this pow-wow, but wanted to let you know that i called the speaker’s office to ask them to confirm or deny if the holt/tierney bill was being blocked at the request of the speaker. after much round-and-round (you’ll have to ask hoyer’s office about that, you’ll have to leave a message on the voice mail, you’ll have to send an email to the generic address, …) i was finally told, “We can’t give you an answer to that question.” Not, “we don’t have an answer to give you.” I was not allowed to speak to anyone who might be willing to give me the answer to the question - in fact, i was never told that they didn’t have the answer - only that they couldn’t give it to me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’m pissed, pissed, pissed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it’s bad enough that they do stuff we don’t like. but they should AT LEAST be willing to let us know what they are doing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;can someone please tell me why they think pelosi is a good speaker? i’ll make it easier - why would anyone think she’s an acceptable speaker? i don’t get it… we all agree that hoyer and emanuel suck - why not pelosi too?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1033799"><em>pow wow @ 19</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The FISA bill actually drafted by Members of Congress is the Rush Holt/John Tierney Intelligence Committee bill [H.R. 3782] which has been blocked from a hearing or a vote by the Democratic Committee Chairs apparently at the behest of the Speaker</p>
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<p>don’t know if you’ll see this pow-wow, but wanted to let you know that i called the speaker’s office to ask them to confirm or deny if the holt/tierney bill was being blocked at the request of the speaker. after much round-and-round (you’ll have to ask hoyer’s office about that, you’ll have to leave a message on the voice mail, you’ll have to send an email to the generic address, …) i was finally told, “We can’t give you an answer to that question.” Not, “we don’t have an answer to give you.” I was not allowed to speak to anyone who might be willing to give me the answer to the question &#8211; in fact, i was never told that they didn’t have the answer &#8211; only that they couldn’t give it to me.</p>
<p>i’m pissed, pissed, pissed.</p>
<p>it’s bad enough that they do stuff we don’t like. but they should AT LEAST be willing to let us know what they are doing.</p>
<p>can someone please tell me why they think pelosi is a good speaker? i’ll make it easier &#8211; why would anyone think she’s an acceptable speaker? i don’t get it… we all agree that hoyer and emanuel suck &#8211; why not pelosi too?</p>
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		<title>By: wayfarer</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/look-in-the-freakin-mirror-frankie/#comment-1035136</link>
		<dc:creator>wayfarer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1033848&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Japandrew @ 46&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I started reading Rich’s columns about three years ago and in terms of excoriating the Bush machine in a mainstream media outlet, I would give him 7-8 on a scale of 0 to 10. He is originally a theater critic. I think that positioned him to see what we have been facing: a media farce played out with real people dying offstage. Like Krugman he reads and links to Media Matters and other blogs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also read Frank Rich.  He’s been consistently and vehemently outspoken against the Iraq fiasco and against the Bush/Cheney administration.  He’s been waging the good fight for years.  This column is off-target when it admonishes Frank Rich to “look in the mirror.” Save your blogo-rage for someone who has earned it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1033848"><em>Japandrew @ 46</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I started reading Rich’s columns about three years ago and in terms of excoriating the Bush machine in a mainstream media outlet, I would give him 7-8 on a scale of 0 to 10. He is originally a theater critic. I think that positioned him to see what we have been facing: a media farce played out with real people dying offstage. Like Krugman he reads and links to Media Matters and other blogs.</p>
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<p>I also read Frank Rich.  He’s been consistently and vehemently outspoken against the Iraq fiasco and against the Bush/Cheney administration.  He’s been waging the good fight for years.  This column is off-target when it admonishes Frank Rich to “look in the mirror.” Save your blogo-rage for someone who has earned it.</p>
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		<title>By: redx</title>
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		<dc:creator>redx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1033864&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;GSD @ 56&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Don’t worry about the media. After an 8 year hiatus they will be hankering to get back to rummaging through pantie drawers and 35 year old legal opinions and business and they’ll hold the Democratic President accountable for the mess they made in America after one week in office.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-GSD&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bingo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also perfect timing for not having any money to spend since the Republican sicko’s spent it all on bombs and billions of lost dollars that will have made it into Blackwater and HallyBerton pockets.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1033864"><em>GSD @ 56</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Don’t worry about the media. After an 8 year hiatus they will be hankering to get back to rummaging through pantie drawers and 35 year old legal opinions and business and they’ll hold the Democratic President accountable for the mess they made in America after one week in office.</p>
<p>-GSD</p>
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<p>Bingo.</p>
<p>Also perfect timing for not having any money to spend since the Republican sicko’s spent it all on bombs and billions of lost dollars that will have made it into Blackwater and HallyBerton pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: maggierose</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/look-in-the-freakin-mirror-frankie/#comment-1034982</link>
		<dc:creator>maggierose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have been listening to Rich’s book and it is a detailed condemnation of the media’s complicity in all the disasters of this administration.  I have been reading Rich’s columns for years - he is one of the good guys IMO.  I think we should view his call for citizen action in a macro, not micro, sense.  We all know that if the draft were in place, there would be larger protests and other citizen reactions to Iraq *present company excluded*. Probably anyone who reads this post has been active in his/her dissent.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been listening to Rich’s book and it is a detailed condemnation of the media’s complicity in all the disasters of this administration.  I have been reading Rich’s columns for years &#8211; he is one of the good guys IMO.  I think we should view his call for citizen action in a macro, not micro, sense.  We all know that if the draft were in place, there would be larger protests and other citizen reactions to Iraq *present company excluded*. Probably anyone who reads this post has been active in his/her dissent.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Schultz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/look-in-the-freakin-mirror-frankie/#comment-1034824</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Frank Rich did write an entire book about how the media got the war wrong, didn’t he, and was manipulated by the administration?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Rich did write an entire book about how the media got the war wrong, didn’t he, and was manipulated by the administration?</p>
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		<title>By: JackHinJersey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/look-in-the-freakin-mirror-frankie/#comment-1034752</link>
		<dc:creator>JackHinJersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t agree with the post’s assessment. Rather than take it personally (individually or as a group of like-minded people), I saw this as a call to action. I’m old enough to remember the race equality and Vietnam marches. I have seen relatively few of these opposed to the Iraq war and those that I have seen are sparsely attended. Citizen’s, all of us myself included, that see this as not just a debacle but as a moral outrage, need to do more to change what is happening. Instead, too many wait for a leader to emerge who will correct this. We’ll cheer him when he does but in the meantime we’ll generally just grouse. This is an overly general statement that will be recieved negatively by the many people who have actively agitated for change. But I think as a general statement there is much truth to it. 70% of Americans are against this war yet there are not driven to real action as a group. Rich, I think, is saying we need to and I agree with that assessment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t agree with the post’s assessment. Rather than take it personally (individually or as a group of like-minded people), I saw this as a call to action. I’m old enough to remember the race equality and Vietnam marches. I have seen relatively few of these opposed to the Iraq war and those that I have seen are sparsely attended. Citizen’s, all of us myself included, that see this as not just a debacle but as a moral outrage, need to do more to change what is happening. Instead, too many wait for a leader to emerge who will correct this. We’ll cheer him when he does but in the meantime we’ll generally just grouse. This is an overly general statement that will be recieved negatively by the many people who have actively agitated for change. But I think as a general statement there is much truth to it. 70% of Americans are against this war yet there are not driven to real action as a group. Rich, I think, is saying we need to and I agree with that assessment.</p>
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