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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/consequences-3/#comment-1033397</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1033178&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;RockPaperScizzors @ 123&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1033131&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;dakine01 @ 86&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Uh, if I’m not mistaken, there was a draft pretty much continuously from WWII through Korea and Vietnam when it was ended during the Nixon years.  It was not put in place strictly for Vietnam.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;December 1, 1969 marked the date of the first draft lottery held since 1942. The difference with the Vietnam generation was the GI Bill. Instituted during WWII, was responsible for funding the educations of three Supreme Court Justices, three presidents, twenty-four Pulitzer prize winners, fourteen Nobel Prize winners, and millions of other professionals who have served our society for generations. The G.I. Bill has been credited with making the American dream possible for more Americans than any other program ever. Many of the children of the WWII and Korean generation were educated and affluent comparatively so to their parents and  grandparents. Education was the catalyst in the dissent of the radical 60’s generation movement, IMHO.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, the LOTTERY was re-instituted in 1969. But there were many young men that were INDUCTED by a non-random selection method by their draft boards PRIOR to 1969 in Vietnam, as well as in the Vietnam War. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remeber that Elvis Presley was drafted in the “peacetime” interim between the Korean and Vietnam Wars. The spoof “Bye Bye Birdie” was based on this event. Willie Mays was drafted after WWII. James Garner (Maverick, The Rockford Files) was drafted and served during the Korean War, as did the authors of the films M.A.S.H. (Dr. Richard Hornberger a.k.a. Hooker) and “Deliverance” (James Dickey). Most of the 38,000 US troops that died in Korea were inductees…not enlisted men.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1033178"><em>RockPaperScizzors @ 123</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1033131"><em>dakine01 @ 86</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Uh, if I’m not mistaken, there was a draft pretty much continuously from WWII through Korea and Vietnam when it was ended during the Nixon years.  It was not put in place strictly for Vietnam.</p>
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<p>December 1, 1969 marked the date of the first draft lottery held since 1942. The difference with the Vietnam generation was the GI Bill. Instituted during WWII, was responsible for funding the educations of three Supreme Court Justices, three presidents, twenty-four Pulitzer prize winners, fourteen Nobel Prize winners, and millions of other professionals who have served our society for generations. The G.I. Bill has been credited with making the American dream possible for more Americans than any other program ever. Many of the children of the WWII and Korean generation were educated and affluent comparatively so to their parents and  grandparents. Education was the catalyst in the dissent of the radical 60’s generation movement, IMHO.</p>
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<p>Yes, the LOTTERY was re-instituted in 1969. But there were many young men that were INDUCTED by a non-random selection method by their draft boards PRIOR to 1969 in Vietnam, as well as in the Vietnam War. </p>
<p>Remeber that Elvis Presley was drafted in the “peacetime” interim between the Korean and Vietnam Wars. The spoof “Bye Bye Birdie” was based on this event. Willie Mays was drafted after WWII. James Garner (Maverick, The Rockford Files) was drafted and served during the Korean War, as did the authors of the films M.A.S.H. (Dr. Richard Hornberger a.k.a. Hooker) and “Deliverance” (James Dickey). Most of the 38,000 US troops that died in Korea were inductees…not enlisted men.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/consequences-3/#comment-1033304</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just got Safari to work…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got Safari to work…</p>
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		<title>By: RBG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/consequences-3/#comment-1033303</link>
		<dc:creator>RBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For folks who have been having difficulty getting  to the John Dean Book Salon….you might try again.  It looks like both Safari and IE are happier now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For folks who have been having difficulty getting  to the John Dean Book Salon….you might try again.  It looks like both Safari and IE are happier now.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/consequences-3/#comment-1033301</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hah. Just got a corrupt file from Firefox. Figures.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah. Just got a corrupt file from Firefox. Figures.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/consequences-3/#comment-1033300</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1033288&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;triciawrites @ 152&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://http//www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-john-dean-2/&quot;&gt;John Dean book club open above&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Too scared to take the zed&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bad link:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-john-dean-2/&quot;&gt;http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....hn-dean-2/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1033288"><em>triciawrites @ 152</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://http//www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-john-dean-2/">John Dean book club open above</a></p>
<p>Too scared to take the zed</p>
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<p>Bad link:<br />
<a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-john-dean-2/">http://www.firedoglake.com/200&#8230;..hn-dean-2/</a></p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: triciawrites</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/consequences-3/#comment-1033288</link>
		<dc:creator>triciawrites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://http//www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-john-dean-2/&quot;&gt;John Dean book club open above&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Too scared to take the zed&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://http//www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-john-dean-2/">John Dean book club open above</a></p>
<p>Too scared to take the zed</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/consequences-3/#comment-1033286</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1 hour and 29 minutes left on dialup Teddy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heard any good jokes lately. (sniff, sniff) ;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 hour and 29 minutes left on dialup Teddy.</p>
<p>Heard any good jokes lately. (sniff, sniff) ;)</p>
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		<title>By: TeddySanFran</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/consequences-3/#comment-1033284</link>
		<dc:creator>TeddySanFran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;38 minutes remaining on &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.www.mozilla.com/en/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0.0.7&amp;os=osx&amp;lang=en-US&quot;&gt;Firefox download&lt;/a&gt;, on DSL; if anyone else needs it I guess this is the place.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>38 minutes remaining on <a href="http://en.www.mozilla.com/en/products/download.html?product=firefox-2.0.0.7&amp;os=osx&amp;lang=en-US">Firefox download</a>, on DSL; if anyone else needs it I guess this is the place.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/consequences-3/#comment-1033277</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On dialup. Salon would be over by the time I get it downloaded (doing so now) and installed. Just hope it gets fixed before then. Meanwhile, I’ll wait here, I guess.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On dialup. Salon would be over by the time I get it downloaded (doing so now) and installed. Just hope it gets fixed before then. Meanwhile, I’ll wait here, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/14/consequences-3/#comment-1033271</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1033253&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Christy Hardin Smith @ 142&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Audrey — Rebotting will not help.  It’s an IE problem.  You have to switch to another browser — e.g. Firefox — until the glitch is fixed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t have one. Sorry–my bad. New computer. Teddy can’t get it on Safari either.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1033253"><em>Christy Hardin Smith @ 142</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Audrey — Rebotting will not help.  It’s an IE problem.  You have to switch to another browser — e.g. Firefox — until the glitch is fixed.</p>
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<p>Don’t have one. Sorry–my bad. New computer. Teddy can’t get it on Safari either.</p>
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