Comments on: Boston Hospitals: Just Not Into “Fair Elections” http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:40:50 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: steambomb http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1033357 steambomb Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:16:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1033357 <p><em>The hospitals are pooh-pooing the idea as unnecessary, because the NLRB provides for fair elections already.</em></p> <p></p> <p>Because the NLRB provides for fair elections already?…..?????????????????????????</p> <p>LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL<br /> LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL<br /> LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL<br /> LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL<br /> LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL<br /> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /> Damn they think we are stupid dont they?</p> The hospitals are pooh-pooing the idea as unnecessary, because the NLRB provides for fair elections already.

Because the NLRB provides for fair elections already?…..?????????????????????????

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Damn they think we are stupid dont they?

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1032056 cinnamonape Sun, 14 Oct 2007 02:25:15 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1032056 <p><a href="#comment-1031746"><em>TJ @ 61</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1031743"><em>dakine01 @ 58</em></a></p> <blockquote> <p>Kinda like with drugs; if you really want it, you can get it. All the illegality does is put folks in more danger to get it.</p></blockquote> <p>So true. I’m glad there is hard data backing it up.</p> <p>“In Uganda, where abortion is illegal and sex education programs focus only on abstinence, the estimated abortion rate was 54 per 1,000 women in 2003, more than twice the rate in the United States, 21 per 1,000 in that year. The lowest rate, 12 per 1,000, was in Western Europe, with legal abortion and widely available contraception.”</p></blockquote> <p>All outlawing or restricting safe, medically supervised abortions does is kill and permanently maim women who use street-knowledge procedures or unsanitary and ill-trained illegal providers. It leaves children without mothers. Many women who seek out abortions already had several children and simply couldn’t handle more. The same countries that restricted abortion also constrained women from obtaining contraception.</p> <p><a href="http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/ib12.html">http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/ib12.html</a></p> <p>Illegal abortion also likely increases the odds of the transmission of sexual infections due to sepsis and open wounds. The same people who scream about female genital mutilation by other cultures should realize that their own actions in outlawing abortion essentially has the same impact! Women who obtain these street-level abortions often became infertile or found sexual activity excruciatingly painful due to the trauma involved. That’s IF they survived the use of home-made abortificants or the back-room surgeries.</p> <p>Anyone who is for rolling back Roe v. Wade should be required to visit the hospitals and morgues in countries that have made safe, medically-supervised abortions illegal and see what they are going to place American women with. As well, they should realize what their absurd actions against international organizations that offer Family Planning opportunities that include information about abortion leads to.</p> <p>Grrrrrrrr!</p> TJ @ 61

dakine01 @ 58

Kinda like with drugs; if you really want it, you can get it. All the illegality does is put folks in more danger to get it.

So true. I’m glad there is hard data backing it up.

“In Uganda, where abortion is illegal and sex education programs focus only on abstinence, the estimated abortion rate was 54 per 1,000 women in 2003, more than twice the rate in the United States, 21 per 1,000 in that year. The lowest rate, 12 per 1,000, was in Western Europe, with legal abortion and widely available contraception.”

All outlawing or restricting safe, medically supervised abortions does is kill and permanently maim women who use street-knowledge procedures or unsanitary and ill-trained illegal providers. It leaves children without mothers. Many women who seek out abortions already had several children and simply couldn’t handle more. The same countries that restricted abortion also constrained women from obtaining contraception.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/ib12.html

Illegal abortion also likely increases the odds of the transmission of sexual infections due to sepsis and open wounds. The same people who scream about female genital mutilation by other cultures should realize that their own actions in outlawing abortion essentially has the same impact! Women who obtain these street-level abortions often became infertile or found sexual activity excruciatingly painful due to the trauma involved. That’s IF they survived the use of home-made abortificants or the back-room surgeries.

Anyone who is for rolling back Roe v. Wade should be required to visit the hospitals and morgues in countries that have made safe, medically-supervised abortions illegal and see what they are going to place American women with. As well, they should realize what their absurd actions against international organizations that offer Family Planning opportunities that include information about abortion leads to.

Grrrrrrrr!

]]> By: Kirk James Murphy, M.D. http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031817 Kirk James Murphy, M.D. Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:47:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031817 <blockquote><p>I’m a Christian, and today I’m busy helping out with an auction to raise money for Global charity work. People have donated hundreds of items, and most of them will be sold by silent auction, but 30 numbers will be auctioned live. We have a dozen volunteers working hard getting everything ready today. But Fox news will not be there to cover our event, so you won’t hear about it on the news, so it probably won’t factor into anyone’s prevailing stereotypes.</p> </blockquote> <p>Thank you, Bob - you speak for my direct experience of Christianity, Christians, and churches.</p> <p>The only Christian fundies I’ve encountered are on on the radio or TV.</p> <p>I can’t imagine knowing enough pagans to make any serious generalization about paganism. With all the Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hidus, Buddhists, and other believers in the world I’m amused that anyone would presume they know enough believers from any faith to make a characterization.</p> <p>I guess I’m old fashioned, but in my Sunday School I was taught that making negative generalizations about any religion was rude and uncouth.</p>

I’m a Christian, and today I’m busy helping out with an auction to raise money for Global charity work. People have donated hundreds of items, and most of them will be sold by silent auction, but 30 numbers will be auctioned live. We have a dozen volunteers working hard getting everything ready today. But Fox news will not be there to cover our event, so you won’t hear about it on the news, so it probably won’t factor into anyone’s prevailing stereotypes.

Thank you, Bob – you speak for my direct experience of Christianity, Christians, and churches.

The only Christian fundies I’ve encountered are on on the radio or TV.

I can’t imagine knowing enough pagans to make any serious generalization about paganism. With all the Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hidus, Buddhists, and other believers in the world I’m amused that anyone would presume they know enough believers from any faith to make a characterization.

I guess I’m old fashioned, but in my Sunday School I was taught that making negative generalizations about any religion was rude and uncouth.

]]> By: SanderO http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031816 SanderO Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:47:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031816 <p>I don’t want to get into a pissing match about religion. I believe the underlying principles in most religion are OK; charity, humility etc. But many people call themselves religious but don’t act it. Look at the warmongering fundies who are itching for a end times.</p> <p>And then you have all the Bush and Regan type Christians who are all for the death penalty and start wars and so forth.</p> <p>Sadly most Christians are not Father Barrigan or Mother Theresa, but the George Bush televangelists type. Sorry, but that’s how I see it.</p> I don’t want to get into a pissing match about religion. I believe the underlying principles in most religion are OK; charity, humility etc. But many people call themselves religious but don’t act it. Look at the warmongering fundies who are itching for a end times.

And then you have all the Bush and Regan type Christians who are all for the death penalty and start wars and so forth.

Sadly most Christians are not Father Barrigan or Mother Theresa, but the George Bush televangelists type. Sorry, but that’s how I see it.

]]> By: bobschacht http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031796 bobschacht Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:20:50 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031796 <p><a href="#comment-1031745"><em>QuakerGirl @ 60</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1031739"><em>SanderO @ 54</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Most christians don’t practice what they preach.</p></blockquote> <p>They are of the “do as I tell you and not as I do” school of thought. How very convenient. At least the Catholics came through on SCHIP. Still won’t join them but I can stand with them on this one issue.</p></blockquote> <p>I don’t like Christian stereotyping, which tends to be done by (a) people who are not Christians, and (b) people whose image of Christians tends to be formed by the loundest, most obnoxious, newsgrabbing Christians with the highest TV visibility– hardly a representative sample! </p> <p>I’m a Christian, and today I’m busy helping out with an auction to raise money for Global charity work. People have donated hundreds of items, and most of them will be sold by silent auction, but 30 numbers will be auctioned live. We have a dozen volunteers working hard getting everything ready today. But Fox news will not be there to cover our event, so you won’t hear about it on the news, so it probably won’t factor into anyone’s prevailing stereotypes.</p> <p>Look into almost any charity today, and you will find either a Christian origin, or a history heavily influenced by Christian principles and volunteers.</p> <p>Bob in HI</p> QuakerGirl @ 60

SanderO @ 54

Most christians don’t practice what they preach.

They are of the “do as I tell you and not as I do” school of thought. How very convenient. At least the Catholics came through on SCHIP. Still won’t join them but I can stand with them on this one issue.

I don’t like Christian stereotyping, which tends to be done by (a) people who are not Christians, and (b) people whose image of Christians tends to be formed by the loundest, most obnoxious, newsgrabbing Christians with the highest TV visibility– hardly a representative sample!

I’m a Christian, and today I’m busy helping out with an auction to raise money for Global charity work. People have donated hundreds of items, and most of them will be sold by silent auction, but 30 numbers will be auctioned live. We have a dozen volunteers working hard getting everything ready today. But Fox news will not be there to cover our event, so you won’t hear about it on the news, so it probably won’t factor into anyone’s prevailing stereotypes.

Look into almost any charity today, and you will find either a Christian origin, or a history heavily influenced by Christian principles and volunteers.

Bob in HI

]]> By: Chetnolian http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031789 Chetnolian Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:15:26 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031789 <p>LS @73</p> <p>A few scary people in UK terms but I wouldn’t be too concerned. They’re just trying to make an “honest” buck. We have our wingnuts too.</p> LS @73

A few scary people in UK terms but I wouldn’t be too concerned. They’re just trying to make an “honest” buck. We have our wingnuts too.

]]> By: juslin http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031782 juslin Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:09:45 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031782 <p>now back upstairs for me</p> now back upstairs for me

]]> By: juslin http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031780 juslin Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:09:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031780 <p>HRC tries to out tough bush and obama sadly is too wimpy imo…..doesn’t want to scare the white voters i guess - ergo comes off as wishy washy frankly - no backbone</p> HRC tries to out tough bush and obama sadly is too wimpy imo…..doesn’t want to scare the white voters i guess – ergo comes off as wishy washy frankly – no backbone

]]> By: Loo Hoo. http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031774 Loo Hoo. Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:03:37 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031774 <p>Josh Marshall has the stupidest campaign up. The radical islamofascists are gonna try and <a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/">take us down</a>!</p> Josh Marshall has the stupidest campaign up. The radical islamofascists are gonna try and take us down!

]]> By: TJ http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031773 TJ Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:03:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/13/boston-hospitals-just-not-into-fair-elections/#comment-1031773 <p>I really would like to have a female or african-american president. But both Clinton and Obama put corporate interests over the average americans’ interests. </p> <p>It pains me not to be able to support them.</p> I really would like to have a female or african-american president. But both Clinton and Obama put corporate interests over the average americans’ interests.

It pains me not to be able to support them.

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