The Police, Every Breath You Take
This is yet another troubling report of Inspectors General under the Bush regime facing consequences for trying to thoroughly do their jobs. Via the NYTimes:
...A small team working for General Hayden is looking into the conduct of the agency’s watchdog office, which is led by Inspector General John L. Helgerson. Current and former government officials said the review had caused anxiety and anger in Mr. Helgerson’s office and aroused concern on Capitol Hill that it posed a conflict of interest.
The review is particularly focused on complaints that Mr. Helgerson’s office has not acted as a fair and impartial judge of agency operations but instead has begun a crusade against those who have participated in controversial detention programs.
Any move by the agency’s director to examine the work of the inspector general would be unusual, if not unprecedented, and would threaten to undermine the independence of the office, some current and former officials say.
More here from the AP. If this were an isolated incident, I'd say that allegations of improper conduct or emphasis by the IG absolutely should be addressed. But it brings a wholesale pattern of pushback for IGs/whistleblowers around the Bush Administration into even more stark view. And it calls into question whether what CIA Director Hayden is doing is in good faith -- or an attempt to pressure an IG into backing off from his sworn duty in oversight of the CIA. The fact that I even raise that question in my own mind is bad enough. But just look at the various IG, whistleblower and oversight pushback activities that have gone on -- and this is just a rough snapshot summary:
-- FBI's Inspector General on misuse of National Security Letters and other Patriot Act emergency provisions which became commonplace end-runs of due process considerations uncovered a substantial problem, both at the FBI and DOJ. The DOJ was informed of these problems in 2005 and 2006 -- AG Gonzales was personally delivered the reports -- but his testimony with regard to being unaware about them now has him in hot water with the Senate Judiciary Committee and others. And corrective measures taken? Not really clear on that at this point based on public records and testimony. (Oh, and the DOJ apparently spends a lot on snacks these days, too. Just FYI.)
-- I could go on and on about what has happened to Bunnatine Greenhouse at the DOD, who dared call a fraud a fraud and then faced retaliation on the job for doing so. Far as I can ascertain, the appeals process on that is still ongoing for the retaliation against her as a whistleblower, but it can't be a comfortable place to work -- and imagine what a disincentive to others it is to call Halliburton or Blackwater or any other government contractor out for fraudulent billing or less-than-appropriate no-bid contracting and other issues which need sufficient independent scrutiny to protect the public from fraud and waste.
-- Which leads us to the substantial questions about an IG at the DOD. David Niewert has a lot of the details, but this sordid little tale of politicization, intrigue and weirdness needs to be read in its entirety.
-- How many different questions of politicization of scientific study questions have come up acros a broad scope of agencies under the Bush Administration? An active IG helps to prevent that sort of issue from arising, or to take corrective measures when it does. But IG offices have had funding issues and pushback from political appointees to deal with, which makes doing their jobs all the more difficult.
-- Pharyngula has information about politicization on education issues -- and the lack of oversight on this is really startling.
-- Two words: The Wilsons.
There are a lot more examples. A LOT more. I plan to dig into this issue more thoroughly -- it goes to the heart of facts versus political manipulation, and needs much more sunshine. If you know of instances and/or reporting on this, please leave me links or information in the comments. Or e-mail me. Looseheadprop and I have talked about this -- an active, independent IG can be a lifeline for people trying to do the right thing in a bad situation. Without that safeguard, what you have is politics run amok on a very, very ineffective leash.
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Christy!
Good morning Mrs. Redd Hedd.
Hello again, Christy!
The time zone thing,
Good afternoon.
OT..
Does anyone know when the Libby appeal results
will be made?
Does it take more than six months?
If Bushie hadn’t commuted the Scoots, he would
have sung by now or the Appeals Court would have been on a fast track.
It’s like a civil war within the intelligence community. Gonna be nasty.
There should be some way to make the IG function a totally independent, cabinet level post with full oversite of ALL federal agencies.
Hopefully this would forestall those few instances such as at State where the IG is part of the corruption problem.
I just can’t come up with how the head would be appointed/approved to be free of undue influence from Executive/Legislative/Judiciary all three
The corruption of this era’s powerful knows no bounds. It’s interesting to read about some of the corruption and machinations of ancient Rome and you see so many parallels it’s frightening.
Our founders knew of the danger of this and tried to build in checks and balances. But those who seek wealth and power without conscience have found ways around that. In our information age, some of their techniques have changed, but the motives and results are remarkable similar to some of the empires that have gone before us.
I don’t think anyone’s wife or mother has poisoned them yet for political reasons, but I would certainly avoid small charter planes if I was a progressive politician with a record of success and integrity.
Bunnatine Greenhouse is a shining example of right vs. wrong.
I would like to see her have a prominant position in a Democratic administration.
Someone on the previous thread, took, I believe, a “cheap shot” at Teddy Kennedy and his medical insurance.
For the record, Kennedy has acknowledged that he has the best medical insurance and he
wants to extend that to the S-Chip kids…
Any complaints should be directed at those
Senators who have the best insurance in town and voted against the S-Chip (can you say hypocrisy (sp).)
Bay State Librul @ 10
I wasn’t taking a cheap shot at him —- just at the right wingers who don’t notice the socialized medicine all around them.
TexBetsy @ 11
Sorry… I misunderstood what you meant
Bustednuckles @ 9
Does anyone know where she is, exactly - I have this vision of her being warehoused someplace making Xerox copies. :(
egregious @ 6
The only certainty is that these agencies will be purged of their Republican hack operatives by a democratic administration. Not much is getting done with the stonewalling, disrespect for subpoenas, disrespect for the system and its laws, and lack of any real consequences for the offenders.
I was just reading about the situation with Helgerson at TPMuckraker. This bunch never fails to amaze. First they have their people seemingly deliberate sidestepping the law, then they complain that people are criminalizing politics when they get caught cutting legal corners. What I don’t understand is, (and I admit to being somewhat dense here) when the courts say you cannot do certain things when interrogating prisoners, whether they are prisoners of war or illegal combatants, and that you must abide by the Geneva Conventions, doesn’t that mean stop doing what you’re doing? And you do them anyway, what’s an IG to do? And this is especially when the politicization of the whole dept. is so very evident to everyone that works there, isn’t that exactly what the IG is for? Is Hayden a lawyer and capable of judging the legality of certain acts? Also, interpretation…what shock the conscience? It shocks my conscience for our interrogators to burn captives with cigarettes or pull out finger or toe nails. Maybe that doesn’t shock the conscience of some. But I believe that would be against Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions.
It’s clear now that this maladministration prefers lapdogs to watchdogs. They’re doing everything they can to make sure there’s lots of the former and few of the latter, and we-the-people are the losers.
Whether Congress will ever figure it out is a whole ‘nother question, and I don’t hold out much hope for them. They seem to be (with a few exceptions) deliberately trying to become more like Bush and Cheney, rather than less.
And they trust Hayden to monitor the “appropriateness” of electronic intercepts? This guy is trying to throw overboard the very legal oversight established by law over the CIA!
But get what Hayden’s spokesman has to say about all this….
Ummm! INDEPENDENT? Maybe I missed the definition of that word…but I thought it meant that those that might be investigated were unable to influence changes in the office. Yet, here is the Director talking about “making changes”. If one really believed in INDEPENDANCE one would not compel an “inquiry”. One would allow the Office to do their own study and allow the Inspector General to make any requests for help he required.
THAT would be the appropriate way to ensure independance!
Clearly this is an effort to compel the IG of the CIA to rein in his investigations…oe perhaps even to replace him.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....q68E6yFz4D
minor typo:
Isn’t it time for an Independent Counsel?
Fitz.
Because someone had to say it.
I think the Administration spends most of its time trying to stomp out all of the campfires any way they can in order to keep their cover-up going (I believe they are involved in covering up numerous crimes). Goldsmith indicated that they are very fearful of things like war crimes charges.
Blackwater pulled guns on our soldiers in Iraq.
Democracy Now had a report this morning about Unocal and Chevron in Myanmar and the lawsuit that was settled with Unocal. The attorney interviewed said something to the effect that Chevron is paying the perpetrators of the slaughter of the monks, the army, in order to protect their pipeline. Condi worked for Chevron. Halliburton has been involved over there. That is insanity.
These people are involved all over the place in all kinds of atrocities, torture, illegal occupations, private armies, etc., and they still manage to block anything of substantial consequence from bringing them to justice.
The good thing is that we are able to access the reports of their repeated obstruction of justice into investigations that implicate them. More sunshine, more whistleblowers, and then somebody do something about it.
Also, CNN.com has a story up on people being deported by ICE who were being given psychotropic drugs - without medical examinations and against their will - before being deported. Apparently the files are clear on what was done to them.
Bay State Librul @ 10
That was most likely me. My intent was to play up the hypocrisy of the Repugs in that private insurance is the only way to go. They seem to have no problem in using government paid health care.
“spends”
Toby Wollin @ 13
She’s a speaker at the Speakers Bureau of the National Whistleblower Center.
It reminds me of when the actuary from G.A.O. gave his assesment of the true costs of the impending Iraq war and was was threatened by his supervisor not to release the report!
Such scum bunnies.
Helpless Dancer @ 23
They love socialized medicine for themselves. They love capitalism for us. Socialism for the wealthy and capitalism for the rest of us.
hackworth @ 27
It just sounds like Kennedy is the one being blamed for it though when he is one of the few who seems to understand the problem and has spent most of his adult life working to fix it.
drinksforall @ 26
Oh! Pity the Bunnies of the world. What have they ever done to deserve such a smear?
;-)
FunnyDiva
P J Evans @ 22
They are using Haldol. This is like killing a mosquito with a nuclear bomb. But, if you want to make sure someone is not going to argue with you - heck, knock ‘em so far out, they are in another dimension.
random image humor break
More new stuff on Blackwater…:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/12/12471/575
Toby Wollin @ 30
This is like killing a mosquito with a nuclear bomb.
And isn’t that just exactly what these people would do?
tw3k @ 31
Ewwww….lol
Google blackwater whistle blower
http://wizbangblue.com/2007/09.....kwater.php
http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/405387.html
EPU’d from earlier thread:
james @ 218
The emphasized statement above is not true — Social Security will not cease to exist for those currently working.
What is going to happen is that at some time in the next 30 years (the date varies depending on who is speaking about it) Social Security will have to pay out more in benefits than it is taking in.
There is a simple fix for this — raise the cap on wages subject to the OASDI tax, which is currently $97,000 per year.
Having worked for Social Security for the first 3 years I was a Federal employee, I get a little tired of hearing scare tactic statements regarding the program’s potential demise…
The only way that will happen is if the government stops collecting the OASDI taxes. Now, do you really think that’s likely?
Great catch.
Two points -
1) Hey - Liberty’g Gulag injects prisoners with the same powerful drugs (ant-psychotics) the Soviets used to use…ack when we said we’d blow up the world rather than live under their system.
2) Unless the ICE personnel are licensed to practice medicine/administer intramuscular medications in the States where they abduct residents, I believe they are all liable for illegal practice of medicine (or nursing) without a license.
Or - since LAX is under the DOT - do the Feds now claim anyone passing through an airport may be forcibly medicated by the Federal Docs of the UHPHS?
Do the USPHS docs know of ther new responsibility?
The article seems to claim US Public Health Service Docs were responsible. OK - what are their names? Where were they the day the detainees were forcibly treated? Had they ever examined the detainees? Where are their clincal evaluations of their “patients”?
California has very strict laws on involuntary adminsitration of psychotropic drugs - when did the Public Health Service docs seek the “Reese Hearing” require to legally do such a thing?
I’ve sat up in the LA County Mental Health Court - (Court 95 IIRC) - up along the dowdy rail corridor connecting LA and the SF Valley. The judges are not pushovers.
I hope CNN knows enough to chase the court records on this (of course, there won’t be any) - and then confront whichever USPH docs’ names are on the papers.
evil:
Criminal battery with intramuscular medications for behavioral control.
The qui tam false claims act which is to be tools for whistle blowers to do the right thing, is not effective.
Every time a serious charge is surfaced by a whistle blower they are silenced, tied up in expensive court battles or have their career ruined.
Let’s hear from Sibel Edmonds. She hasn’t even been able to put her lips to the whistle!
The “establishment” expects loyalty and you don’t snitch. Omerta.
Not all civil servants believe in that sort of loyalty.
But power will act like the mob and put the squeeze on and it all looks legal. Don’t it?
kirk murphy @ 37
Kirk - I’m no expert, but even in the worst circumstances, if someone was truly upset or even physically combative, I think there are other means at the disposal of trained personnel (I realize that this may be the one fact that is out of place here - I mean, ARE they using trained and licensed personnel?)than Haldol? I mean, really?
Here is a possible example from NIST. “NIST Whistleblower” entry. It’s down the page a couple of entries by now.
George Washington’s Blog
LS @ 34
heh, got it from this random web image page. It autorefreshes
christy, I don’t even have to read your post to know that these are the consequences when impeachment is off the table.
I mean, who’s stopping them?
Brisingamen @ 36
You are correct. However, it is interesting to note that the SSA uses the very same Republican generated scare tactics in their own brochures found in their offices.
Described in one SSA brochure (with charts and graphs) are some remedies to fix the problem - raising the retirement age and or raising the tax.
There is absolutely no mention of raising the cap on taxable wages. Perhaps because that would be the best remedy for the people and the worst one for corporations.
Union of Concerned Scientists has a comprehensive catalog of misuse of science:
http://www.ucsusa.org/scientif.....tical.html
The A to Z Guide to Political Interference in Science
OT:
Gore talking
Ice cap gone in 23 years possible as is known.
I kinda like Goldsmith. I wonder what his BS Shield is comprised of.
hackworth @ 43
hackworth,
Those brochures you mention are most likely a product of the administration in charge today. You know. The Republican’s who like to pretend there is a crisis.
Biodun @ 25
IIRC she hasn’t quit her Gov’t job. She is in a “small basement office, pushing pencils” I would hope when the Dems take over on 01/20/09, she is put in charge; she knows where the bodies are buried.
do-si-do @ 42
Yep. Chimpy knows impeachment is off the table. Cheney knows impeachment is off the table.
My take: They (especially Darth) think they can do whatever they want until January 2009. And that’s when everything will be handed over(including the Iraq mess) to the next administration.
Chicken Soup for a Citizen’s Soul:
Article 1 pins
dakine01 @ 47
Yes, this is true. The Bush administration or any administration has the power to catapult whatever propaganda they wish to propagate. As the Republicans endeavor to eliminate Social Security in total, it is vital to them for the people to believe that it may not be there for them in the future.
OT: capital.org poll: Should Al Gore run for president. Currently 55/45 in favor.
Hi Toby -
revised my comment above - it partially addresses your question.
I’m staying away from the question of which drug to use - that would implicitly normalize the practice (not your intention, I hasten to add).
To me the most renchant question is : What ethical physician uses their art and skill to render captives insensate for transport?
There is no medical neccesity for quiet detainees or prisoners. If ICE can’t keep their captives sedated, the airlines seem less willing to assist in their transport. That’s an adminstrative problem - not a medical problem.
Will the kindly USPHS docs start showing up at Federal Courthouses to “assess” plaintiffs and witnesses agianst the Government?
Hey - we’re just here to keep everyone peaceful - right?
I am glad that Kirk is on our side. You are kinda like the Jane Hamsher of shrinks. :-)
Steve-AR @ 48
My point, exactly. People like this are usually put in the “seventh ring of hell” in the hopes that they will get frustrated and depressed and leave…in her case, I hope she outlasts them all and then emerges with all of her memories and notes intact.
Also that Sting video put me in a great mood. I love that song, even if it is the stalker’s anthem.
shucks - thanks, Gnome.
I wish I had Jane’s skill with words (and technology!)
OT..It just gets worse..Nancy to fund raise for Al Wynn..Jeebus
Meanwhile, Wynn campaign manager Lori Sherwood said Wynn raised about $160,000 in the last quarter, and has $400,000 still on hand.
She said the campaign plans to bank over $1 million, and that a fundraiser scheduled next month in Montgomery County with U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) should help them rake in the dough. Sherwood said the details of that event are still being worked out.
link
A Gore run won’t happen:
OT Consider this another installment in my series Adventures in Reading the New York Times.
There is an article at the NYT by David Herszenhorn that is a classic for what is wrong with the traditional media: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10.....ref=slogin
It is ostensibly about Barney Frank and the heat that he has taken for removing protections for transsexuals and transgender individuals from the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, but this is just an excuse to go off on the “unrelenting demands of the party’s liberal base.” There is something positively weird about this hit piece by Herzenhorn.
He admits that the bill has no chance of becoming law but then blames the “base” for its unreasonable demands which interfere with “making compromises needed to pass legislation.” He quotes Frank: “This is a moment of truth for responsible liberals in the Democratic Party.” The clear implication is that the base is irresponsible by its very nature.
Herzenhorn then passes on to the Iraq war:
You see the base that fringe of the party made up of “the most outspoken antiwar groups” and 60-70% of the American people are handcuffing their Democratic leaders whom they elected by pressuring them into extreme positions like getting out of Iraq in a responsible fashion rather than essentially agreeing with Republicans in a bipartisan to change our strategy in Iraq and stay there forever. As Glenn Greenwald would say, Herzenhorn is a Very Serious Person.
Herzenhorn goes on to rag about the energy and farm bills. Yes, Herzenhorn thinks that the base is wildly concerned about the farm bill. He eventually wanders back to Barney Frank. He quotes one critic of Frank but gives Frank the last word.
The most negative message that could be sent to whom exactly? Neither Frank nor Herzenhorn say.
The article is a masterwork of bias. Paragraphs begin with phrases like: “To the delight of Republicans,” “On the energy bill, the Democrats struggled.” No slant there, no sir. But more than this, Herzenhorn presents no spokesperson from this base that he is so eager to criticize. Where does Herzenhorn go instead for political analysis? To Adam Putnam (R-FL) chairman of the House Republican Conference. You can not make this stuff up.
This is opinion masquerading as journalism. It is Beltway wisdom at its worst. Herzenhorn picks and chooses his facts and sources to reinforce his narrative. Forget that Bush is the worse President in our history. Forget all his failures. Forget the disaster that is Iraq. Forget that Republicans enthusiastically embraced Bush’s agenda and continue to vote for it. Forget Republican obstructionism and their lack of accountability. No the real problem is the Democratic base because it represents the majority of the country on many issues, because it believes in responsible government, because it is unwilling to be dominated by the politicians, media, and Beltway class that have supported so fiercely the corruption, incompetence, and criminality of the Bush Administration, because finally, from the point of view of the David Herzenhorns of this world, we do not shut up and do as we are told.
kirk murphy @ 53
Apparently, ethics are not a problem. The starting pay for a brand new MD is around 200K per year.
Many are Republicans. Some have bought into the whole Bush GWOT meme.
OT. New Froomkin up. Lede from Bush: It’s not his policies, it’s us for not understanding them.
What really scares me about the CNN story is that if USPHS docs really are signing off on our Gulag’s forced medication of detainees, who is minding the store at USPHS?
Then I think oh - their IG - and I want to go cry.
Our Republic has been inflitrated by the worst values from National Socialism and Soviet Communism.
Carried by the increasing violent Bushie revolutionaries in and out of Federal service.
c&l has this cut and paste from the new york times
bold is mine
now the democrats have to BRUTALIZE anyone that doesn’t want to wear THAT pin
Christy two more for your list:
I think it was Dpet of Interior where the Secy tried to outsource the IG’s investigations to contractors she picked (and some suggest had connections to) over his objections. All the while trying to cut his buget
2) the great Clark kent Irvine from homeland Secuirty who requested mutliple time and went up to Cpaital Hill to beg for, and never got
More auditors so he could do Katrina oversight.
His “audit” report which explains how he was stonewalled from doing his job, made me alterante between fury and despair when I read it. No wonder the poor guy quit.
He had a book out IIRC
re: the previous thread…SCHIP’s funding is still flawed IF it intends to get all its revenue from ciggie smokers. I say IF because I’m not sure if there were parts of it I didn’t read or see if there were any updates to its funding. How can a program like this only draw from a dwindling 20% of the population instead of being culled from everyone or which could be fully funded (along with a million other programs) by simply enforcing the tax code and/or repealing the grotesque tax-cuts to the top 1% of earners? If everyone stopped smoking, would SCHIP (as it is presently written) lose all funding? What were these pinheads thinking when they came up with this funding strategy?…”Let’s get everyone who wants healthy children to chip in by starting to smoke again” OR “Let’s make smoking even more expensive so that smokers quit and leave kids’ health in the lurch when they finally do take steps to improve their own health”. Really, some of the skewered logic in our legislators’ proposals is staggering. Back to the drawing board and re-figure the funding source on this one, folks.
kirk murphy @ 63
Kirk - my dad was a doctor - this is why I find it so difficult to imagine this situation. Whatever happened to “Do no harm”?
Or perhaps it’s been replaced by “Leave your conscience at the door”.
P J Evans @ 22
WHy? to what purpose? Why would ICE even care to drug them?
dakine01 @ 62
I could not read after this:
“(Bush says)We have lost sight of what it means to be a nation willing to be aggressive in the world…”
No, George, we are very very aware now of what it means to be a nation which is willing to be aggressive in the world.
And we don’t like it at all.
It means that we’ve turned ourselves into a bunch of people who support thuggery against defenseless people thousands of miles away..simply because they don’t look like us, act like us or worship like us.
Thanks George. You guys have been doing a heck of a job for our self-esteem.
looseheadprop @ 67
Haldol makes a person very very mellow, while still allowing him to remain awake with suffient motor function for walking. IOW, Sit down (on the plane) and STFU.
re: Social Security. I’m certainly no expert, but it’s my understanding that the SS Trust Fund was set up the deal with the baby boom and after that group works through the system it will go back to an even, one generation pays for the previous situation.
The Trust Fund was designed to be a temporary thing just to get through the baby boomers and then the system would return to it’s “normal operating procedure.”
So when they warn of the Social Security Trust Fund being out of money in 2035 (or whatever year) isn’t that the way it was designed?
looseheadprop @ 68
Haldol is usually given to control delirium, psychosis, and schizophrenia, I thought…IIRC. What would make them exhibit those symptoms? I wonder if they are giving them something else and then counteracting with the Haldol.
Toby Wollin @ 68
You are correct. We just don’t have the stomach for firecrackers and frogs like we used to.
Toby Wollin @ 69
Sort of OT:
Since it looks like we’re ginning up a war with Iran, I thought it would be appropriate to take a look at the Persian culture.
Long before Islam, the Persian Empire was dominantly of the Zoroastrian religion. That religion was arguably the predecessor to later Christian and Islamic (and even Jewish) theology that supposed the duality of one God and one Devil.
In Zoroastrianism, their God was known as Ahura-Mazda, The God of Light. Their “devil” was known as Ahriman, or the God of Darkness. In their view, all of history was a battle between the forces of light and the forces of darkness. Ahriman’s minions of darkness were demons and human collaborators who persisted in “evil” behaviors and were constantly preventing humanity from living in harmonious peace.
That’s all off the top of my head, so feel free to correct me if I have some of the details wrong, but that’s a very rough summary of the religion of early Persia.
It occurred to me that we often have trouble finding an accurate label for the neo-cons, conservatives, neo-liberals, fascists, etc.
Perhaps just putting them under the umbrella of Ahriman would be appropriate.
New Jane Presidential Poll thread upstairs.
You have got to be kidding!! Is Homeland Security spying with fake dragonflies in crowds and who knows where else????
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....34_pf.html
After a quick look at my scandals list, I found entries on IG problems in 30, 149, 176-179, 206, 251. The CIA IG is treated in 261.
lhp @ 67
So they can’t protest when they’re being deported? One of them had a stay order, and they wouldn’t let him show it to the flight crew - I’d be surprised if he was the only one.
It’s sounding more and more like we’re becoming the USSR. Pelosi et al are aiding the change, by not doing their jobs. Getting rid of the honest IGs and USAs is part of the change, too.
kirk murphy @ 63
Is the Surgeon General at the top of the USPHS? If so, the acting SG is Adm. Ken Moritsugu. He was in my Med School class and, at least at that time, was a “good guy”.
SufiLizard @ 71
The Social Security surpluses that are supposed to make up for shortfalls between about 2017 and 2040 (originally 2018 and 2042) don’t exist. Any shortfalls during this period will be made up from general revenues (putting added strain on the budget). After 2040, Social Security without any new funding will be able to pay about 74% of expected benefits.
lhp, the class of drugs used appears to have been anti-psychotics.
Anti-psychotics have a medical role in relieving both “psychotic” symptoms (hallucinations, delusions, and other perceptions wholly disconnected from reality) or in the treatment of bipolar disorder not responsive to lithium and/or ant-convulsants more commonly used for bipolar disorder.
There are three classes of anti-psychotics - the article discusses use of the “high potency class” antipsychotic known as haloperidol (Haldol).
All of the antipsychotics are also known as “neuroleptics”
The side efects described above help explain why so many people tormented by psychotic symptoms “go off” (stop) their anti-psychotic meds.
Of course, the side effects above tend to be most severe with the first dose - over time, tolerance to some of the side effects may develop, making the drugs less burdensome over time.
But - when used on healthy people without psychotic symptoms - the neuroleptics produce sedation and can render someone pliant, sleepy, and chemically “stilled”.
The medciation the CNN article describes being co-adminsitered with Haldol is Cognetin. Cogentin (aks benztropine) is given to revers the abnormal (excessive) movement side efects of Haldol. Cogentin is also quite sedating - kinda like the old-fashioned “sleepifying” decongestants on nap steroids.
The combination could be used to render a healthy articulate person too sedated and lethargic to complain.
Hence the forcible adminstration of these powerful drugs to silence the Korean detainee transported in defiance of Federal judicial orders.
Just another chemical tool in Liberty’s Gulag.
Hugh @ 80
Hugh,
Those surpluses “don’t exist” because they’ve been used to offset the ongoing budget deficits since the Ray-guns years. That was when the decision was made to raid the SS trust fund to make the budget deficit look not as bad as it really was.
The gov’t has been issuing IOUs to the SS trust fund ever since.
So you’re correct in one sense that the SS is going to have to be from general revenues. But that was a conscious decision made and endorsed by St ronnie and his minions. Probably in an attempt to destroy SS by the back door.