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	<title>Comments on: Memory-Haunted News:  Armenia, Iraq, and Genocide</title>
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		<title>By: Roger Bigod</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/11/memory-haunted-news-armenia-iraq-and-genocide/#comment-1029178</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Bigod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Turkey is moral anathema for the genocide, we shouldn’t have accepted their help in NATO, supplying troops in Korea, basing for our missles, etc.  Trying to shame them now over something that happened a century ago just makes us look like posturing hypocrites.  Aside from the fact that we are posturing hypocrites, this will have some consequences that are difficult to predict, but could be hugely negative for us and the whole ME.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Turkey is moral anathema for the genocide, we shouldn’t have accepted their help in NATO, supplying troops in Korea, basing for our missles, etc.  Trying to shame them now over something that happened a century ago just makes us look like posturing hypocrites.  Aside from the fact that we are posturing hypocrites, this will have some consequences that are difficult to predict, but could be hugely negative for us and the whole ME.</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
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		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And someday people will argue about the deaths we have caused in Iraq.  A shame upon the nation.  We are better than this.  How to turn things around.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And someday people will argue about the deaths we have caused in Iraq.  A shame upon the nation.  We are better than this.  How to turn things around.</p>
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		<title>By: SanderO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SanderO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Turkish military along with the CIA and other US “agencies” is heavily into the transport of heroine poppies to Turkey where it is processed. We’re talking on the scales of moving thousands of metric tons of the stuff.  You don’t do that stashed under the floor boards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sibel knows that the CIA and the Turks are deep into the drug trade to Europe through Turkey and Hastert is the point man in Congress who makes it happen.  He’s getting / was getting lotys of cash from the Turks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Ingelik (sp?) is one of those huge US bases  in, of course Southern Turkey. And of course Turkey sits on the Bosporus which is the gateway for all Caspian Sea shipping… of oil?  No way… And it was a nice littel spot to park some nuke tipped missles aimed at the Big Bear.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re tight with Turkey.  But the EU don’t want them in.  Hmmmm strange bedfellows eh?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turkish military along with the CIA and other US “agencies” is heavily into the transport of heroine poppies to Turkey where it is processed. We’re talking on the scales of moving thousands of metric tons of the stuff.  You don’t do that stashed under the floor boards.</p>
<p>Sibel knows that the CIA and the Turks are deep into the drug trade to Europe through Turkey and Hastert is the point man in Congress who makes it happen.  He’s getting / was getting lotys of cash from the Turks.</p>
<p>The Ingelik (sp?) is one of those huge US bases  in, of course Southern Turkey. And of course Turkey sits on the Bosporus which is the gateway for all Caspian Sea shipping… of oil?  No way… And it was a nice littel spot to park some nuke tipped missles aimed at the Big Bear.</p>
<p>We’re tight with Turkey.  But the EU don’t want them in.  Hmmmm strange bedfellows eh?</p>
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		<title>By: smapdi</title>
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		<dc:creator>smapdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was in Germany in 92 and I made the mistake of calling Turks Germans. I got corrected by my hosts. But it’s not just the Germans it’s the French too. And I cant see the creepy Polish wonder-twins administration voting to allow Turkey’s admission to the EU. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ok now I’ll read Naomi.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in Germany in 92 and I made the mistake of calling Turks Germans. I got corrected by my hosts. But it’s not just the Germans it’s the French too. And I cant see the creepy Polish wonder-twins administration voting to allow Turkey’s admission to the EU. </p>
<p>Ok now I’ll read Naomi.</p>
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		<title>By: smapdi</title>
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		<dc:creator>smapdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess I am very angry that this administration continually disregards the wishes and needs of our allies. The Turks didnt want a Iraq war either.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am very angry that this administration continually disregards the wishes and needs of our allies. The Turks didnt want a Iraq war either.</p>
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		<title>By: yellowsnapdragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>yellowsnapdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027611&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;RockPaperScizzors @ 49&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wasn’t Dennis Hastert involved in shady dealings with Turkey? And wasn’t Sibel Edmonds gagged under ‘State Secrets Privilege?’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Edmonds alleges that in the course of her work for the government, she found evidence that the FBI, State Department, and Pentagon had been &lt;em&gt;infiltrated by a Turkish intelligence organization suspected of ties to terrorism&lt;/em&gt;. She also accused members of the FBI’s translation unit of sabotage, intimidation, corruption and incompetence.[6][7]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edmonds also claims to have witnessed evidence of the intersection of global drug trafficking, money laundering, information laundering and terrorist activity, the state dept and Turkish governments denial of the Armenian Genocide and that certain investigations into these subjects were quashed at the State Department’s request because of their potential impact on both foreign relations and relationships with foreign businesses.”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember Vanity Fair did a article about Hastert and his Turkish ties awhile ago.&lt;br /&gt;
“Edmonds has given confidential testimony inside a secure Sensitive Compartmented Information facility on several occasions: to congressional staffers, to investigators from the O.I.G., and to the staff from the 9/11 commission. Sources familiar with this testimony say that, in addition to her allegations about the Dickersons, she reported hearing Turkish wiretap targets boast that they had a covert relationship with a very senior politician indeed—&lt;b&gt;Dennis Hastert&lt;/b&gt;, Republican congressman from Illinois and Speaker of the House since 1999. The targets reportedly discussed giving Hastert tens of thousands of dollars in surreptitious payments in exchange for political favors and information. “The Dickersons,” says one official familiar with the case, “are only the tip of the iceberg.”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9774.htm&quot;&gt;http://www.informationclearing.....le9774.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I thought maybe my tinfoil hat was on a little too tight, but I immediately thought of Dennis Hastert and Sibel Edmonds too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1027611"><em>RockPaperScizzors @ 49</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Wasn’t Dennis Hastert involved in shady dealings with Turkey? And wasn’t Sibel Edmonds gagged under ‘State Secrets Privilege?’</p>
<p>“Edmonds alleges that in the course of her work for the government, she found evidence that the FBI, State Department, and Pentagon had been <em>infiltrated by a Turkish intelligence organization suspected of ties to terrorism</em>. She also accused members of the FBI’s translation unit of sabotage, intimidation, corruption and incompetence.[6][7]</p>
<p>Edmonds also claims to have witnessed evidence of the intersection of global drug trafficking, money laundering, information laundering and terrorist activity, the state dept and Turkish governments denial of the Armenian Genocide and that certain investigations into these subjects were quashed at the State Department’s request because of their potential impact on both foreign relations and relationships with foreign businesses.”<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds</a></p>
<p>I remember Vanity Fair did a article about Hastert and his Turkish ties awhile ago.<br />
“Edmonds has given confidential testimony inside a secure Sensitive Compartmented Information facility on several occasions: to congressional staffers, to investigators from the O.I.G., and to the staff from the 9/11 commission. Sources familiar with this testimony say that, in addition to her allegations about the Dickersons, she reported hearing Turkish wiretap targets boast that they had a covert relationship with a very senior politician indeed—<b>Dennis Hastert</b>, Republican congressman from Illinois and Speaker of the House since 1999. The targets reportedly discussed giving Hastert tens of thousands of dollars in surreptitious payments in exchange for political favors and information. “The Dickersons,” says one official familiar with the case, “are only the tip of the iceberg.”<br />
<a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9774.htm">http://www.informationclearing&#8230;..le9774.htm</a></p>
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<p>I thought maybe my tinfoil hat was on a little too tight, but I immediately thought of Dennis Hastert and Sibel Edmonds too.</p>
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		<title>By: RockPaperScizzors</title>
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		<dc:creator>RockPaperScizzors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Turkey’s prime minister gave the green light on Tuesday for possible military action in northern Iraq to confront Kurdish rebels there, drawing a warning from the United States, which fears wider regional instability.&lt;br /&gt;
The ruling AK Party said it would request, as soon as possible, parliament’s authorization for a major incursion into the mainly Kurdish region, Turkish private broadcasters CNN Turk and NTV reported.&lt;br /&gt;
The latest incident that has led to this crisis was a PKK ambush that killed 13 Turkish soldiers on Sunday. However, this has been building for a very long time.&lt;br /&gt;
“Wherever a Turkish bayonet appears, there is no Kurdish problem.”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bitsofnews.com/content/view/6261/&quot;&gt;http://www.bitsofnews.com/content/view/6261/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turkey’s prime minister gave the green light on Tuesday for possible military action in northern Iraq to confront Kurdish rebels there, drawing a warning from the United States, which fears wider regional instability.<br />
The ruling AK Party said it would request, as soon as possible, parliament’s authorization for a major incursion into the mainly Kurdish region, Turkish private broadcasters CNN Turk and NTV reported.<br />
The latest incident that has led to this crisis was a PKK ambush that killed 13 Turkish soldiers on Sunday. However, this has been building for a very long time.<br />
“Wherever a Turkish bayonet appears, there is no Kurdish problem.”<br />
<a href="http://www.bitsofnews.com/content/view/6261/">http://www.bitsofnews.com/content/view/6261/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Naomi’s up!  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/11/12187/&quot;&gt;Already.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naomi’s up!  <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/11/12187/">Already.</a></p>
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		<title>By: yellowsnapdragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>yellowsnapdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027607&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eureka Springs @ 46&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have traveled quite few places where watchful eyes weigh heavy on one as they wander aimlessly through foreign streets. Turkey weighed very heavy with watchful eyes one could easily see and plenty which were not so easy to see.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hee Hee.  “Curtain Culture”.  The more prevalent and opaque the curtains, the more likely it is the neighbors are watching you.  That’s my theory.  Turks gossip like nobody’s business.  I think Romania is the worst for feeling watched, though.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1027607"><em>Eureka Springs @ 46</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I have traveled quite few places where watchful eyes weigh heavy on one as they wander aimlessly through foreign streets. Turkey weighed very heavy with watchful eyes one could easily see and plenty which were not so easy to see.</p>
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<p>Hee Hee.  “Curtain Culture”.  The more prevalent and opaque the curtains, the more likely it is the neighbors are watching you.  That’s my theory.  Turks gossip like nobody’s business.  I think Romania is the worst for feeling watched, though.</p>
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		<title>By: GordonM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GordonM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t forget that Denny Hastert came within one day of bringing a similar resolution to the floor. He pulled it after a sufficient number of $500 contributions (lots and lots and lots of them) were deposited into his campaign accounts. For some very strange reason, the story found only a few outlets (blogs and Amy Goodman) and has remained uninvestigated. I think Sibel Edmonds had something to say about it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t forget that Denny Hastert came within one day of bringing a similar resolution to the floor. He pulled it after a sufficient number of $500 contributions (lots and lots and lots of them) were deposited into his campaign accounts. For some very strange reason, the story found only a few outlets (blogs and Amy Goodman) and has remained uninvestigated. I think Sibel Edmonds had something to say about it.</p>
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