Trailer for “Screamers,” a history of genocide and the Armenian tragedy*
Sometimes the news of the day seems random. At other times it seems to display a pattern, an outline of something that can be seen only dimly. Something … haunting. The star-crossed past of the Armenian people, driven from their home by an act of genocide, surfaces in two news stories today.
A House Commitee voted yesterday to affirm that the mass slaughter of Armenians was, in fact, an act of “genocide.” Predictably, the government of Turkey responded with outrage and threats. From the New York Times:
Turkish officials and lawmakers warned that if the resolution was approved by the full House, they would reconsider supporting the American war effort, which includes permission to ship essential supplies through Turkey and northern Iraq.
So another unintended consequence of this ill-conceived and devastating war is that it makes it politically unsafe for American politicians to condemn an atrocity and call it by its proper name. If they do, after all, they could be endangering what some still call the “war on terror.”
And, in Iraq, this news about the war’s devastating effect on that country’s tiny community of Armenians:
Mournful members of Iraq’s Armenian Christian population bowed their heads and recited the Lord’s Prayer over an altar of burning incense at a funeral here on Wednesday for two Armenian women killed by private security contractors, the second such fatal shooting in less than a month.
Relatives also called for justice on Wednesday, though security contractors are immune from prosecution under Iraqi law.
The two women left grieving family members behind – not only in Iraq, but in Europe and the United States. Deprived of a native land after the devastation of genocide, Armenians are now scattered worldwide. As the Times observes:
Armenians in Iraq, like other Christians, have at times been the targets of insurgents, though the Mamook family has not.
No. The Mamook family’s tragedy came at the hands of lawless renegades representing the Coalition of the Willing. After her husband died Marany (Mamook) Awanees started driving a taxi to put two of her children through college, and to support her youngest through high school.
““She was a lovely sister, my younger sister, a lovely, lovely sister,” her brother said.
Ironically, our war in Iraq has now apparently made one more country inhospitable for the Armenian people. And our ill-conceived foreign policy means that their plight will probably continue to go unnamed and unspoken in the halls of the government that was once seen worldwide as the Citadel of Democracy.
UPDATE – I made two corrections thanks to commenters. It wasn’t Blackwater, and my language was unclear about the fact that the bill had passed committee rather than the full House. Apologies …
And, synchronistically, this just in: “The son of a journalist killed earlier this year after calling the massacre of Armenians genocide was convicted Thursday of insulting Turkey’s identity for republishing his father’s remarks.” Ghosts are in the wires today …
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(*I’ll admit that I didn’t fully understand the full importance of recognizing genocide, and of naming it, until I saw “Screamers.” It uses the family history of Serj Tankian, lead singer of System of a Down, to tell the story of the Armenians and other genocides. I interviewed both Serj and the film’s director, Carla Garapedian, when the film came out last year.)
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Iraq, Armenia and soon, Iran.
AP – Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Thursday accused Iran of “lying” about the aim of its nuclear program, saying there’s no doubt Tehran wants the capability to produce nuclear weapons and has deceived the U.N.’s atomic watchdog about its intentions.
I am confused here.
Is this the Genocide that happened during Clinton’s term?
Why Armenia genocide now? For one thing, if the Administration thinks it is going to use Turkey bases to attack Iran…it ain’t gonna happen.
Turks seem to be awfully sensitive for war gone wrong almost a hundred years ago. Could it be guilt?
This is all very nice. When will Congress get around to condemning the Trail of Tears?
and now we find out the marines want to have nothing to do with Iraq, they want to be redeployed into afghanistan
the marines
yup, the marines
that is as close to mutiny as you can get without getting court martialed
let’s remind everyone that afghanistan is bordered by land, not water
Eureka Springs @ 5
Now I an VERY confused.
A hundred years ago?
And they want to condemn it NOW?
Sheeeit, The Armenians should have put an ad in the paper like Move-on.
It’s all about cutting off the Admin’s plans at the knees. It is not about sympathy to the Armenians. JMHO
LS @ 9
It’s just been voted out of committee – not by the full house yet.
“Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians”?
That being said, why this resolution now? I understand silence=death. I know this resolution began in the Republican congress and couldnt get out of committee.
The water is muddy enough.
“Turkey, which has the second largest army in NATO, has said bilateral ties and military cooperation could be damaged if Congress passes the measure.
“We called back our ambassador to Washington for consultations. It should not be understood that we have pulled him back permanently,” a senior Turkish diplomat told Reuters.”
http://ca.today.reuters.com/ne…..AQ-COL.XML
We are reliving the runup to the Iraq invasion. Only this time it’s Iran. The whole dirty business is right out of the Rove-Cheney-Bush playbook.
Admittedly, I have a soft spot for Turkey. I love the place and the culture. BUT Turks do seem very defensive about Armenians. The right thing to do is to apologize and make amends.
Is anyone else having trouble playing the YouTube link?
LS @ 12
If it makes it harder for BushCo to bomb Iran, I think key words in the resolution should be boldfaced for emphasis.
The two sisters weren’t shot by Blackwater employees. It was another group, out of Australia.
And it’s hard to see how the vote makes future genocide unlikely. I’ve known some people of Armenian descent and they felt like their grievance had been passed over in general public knowledge. They had a good point. But I’m not sure that shaming the Turks over it at this late date will accomplish anything.
I guess I mean that we (the administration) have pissed on Turkey a lot recently. Turkey told us that they would have to cross the border to fight the PKK before the Iraq war started and like all the other “unforeseen consequences” we have to deal with it now.
As I posted below, some of the crazies on the WaPo site are already saying the resolution to recognize the Armenian Genocide is a direct attack
on the Bush Iraq policy. The “power Barometer” http://blog.washingtonpost.com…../drg/says:
“Alienating Turkey…is no one in Washington thinking? Turkey is one of the most critical US allies in the Middle East. Incirlik air base in southeast Turkey has been a vital asset for the US since it opened in 1955. “
And I repeat, if this is a move against the war, it’s worthy of Sun Tzu.
“The two women killed by Blackwater guards left grieving family members behind – not only in Iraq, but in Europe and the United States. “
Not that it changes your point, but for the sake of accuracy … it is my understanding that the private security service in question is Australian, not Blackwater. did I miss another update on that tragic story?
Does anyone know who authored this little non binding bill?
George W. Bush is the General George Custer of the Middle East. And like Custer, Bush is a stupid and vain man.
The bill came out of the Human Rights Caucus.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 21
Unlike Bush, however, Custer actually had to be there for the fight. Bush gets to be a physical coward as well as a stupid and vain little man.
We, as Democrats, could turn to our Democratic leaders. If we had any.
In related news, Israel/A*P*C would prefer we not talk about the Armenian genocide because Turkey is, at the moment, being friendly with them, and apparently, denying genocide is *bad* when done about Jews and *fine* when done about Armenians.
Maybe “Never again” should have an asterisk.
In order to attack Iran and continue the war in Iraq, the US needs to operate out of Turkey. Clearly, someone has thought of a way to kibosh the plans without defunding the troops. It may be a really brilliant move, IMHO. I wouldn’t read too much into the, we are suddenly so sympathetic to the genocide 100 years later….that is just the tactic.
Would admitting genocide occurred at the hand of Turks effect their admission into the EU? Not that it slowed German admission, I am just curious.
LS @ 25
It’s not so clear to me that anybody planned this, but I’m not knocking it either.
Eureka Springs @ 26
Well, that would be interesting to see happen, for the very reason you state.
EvilDrPuma @ 27
It is a risky diplomatic move, and well worth the risk, if it jeopardizes the continuing occupation, and helps to make an attack on Iran moot.
The EU will find any reason to keep Turkey out.
The Biden partition plan further enrages the Turks, as it fuels the Kurdish desire to declare an independent Kurdistan with Kirkuk as their capital…!!!
althespook always says rule number one over there: Don’t fuck with the Turks.
CTuttle @ 31
Screw the Turks for now. They are enablers of the Bush/Cheney agenda. This is a major chess move, and it could save millions of lives.
Eureka Springs @ 32
Fuck the Turks!
From MSNBC:
“The United States recognizes the immense suffering of the Armenian people due to mass killings and forced deportations at the end of the Ottoman Empire,” McCormack said in a statement. “We support a full and fair accounting of the atrocities that befell as many as 1.5 million Armenians during World War I” — which he said the measure doesn’t do.
Couldn’t we also discuss the mass killings and the forced deportations during the Iraq War in the early twenty first century?
I enable the bush regime everyday because I have no choice. Do the Turks?
For anyone out there like me, who didn’t know what this is all about,there is an excellent explanation on the front page of Daily Kos.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…../171132/26
smapdi @ 30
The issue, at least according to this report, appears to be Turkey’s lack of recognition of Cyprus. There is no mention of the issue of the Armenian massacres following WWI.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union
Bustednuckles @ 3
No. It happened in 1915 as the Ottoman Empire was crumbling in the wake of WW-I.
Bob in HI
smapdi @ 30
In that regards, I’d point the finger at the Germans, primarily!
There is a deep animosity amongst many Germans against their German-Turkish populace! I’ve seen it first hand…!!! 8-(
Let’s see now. Over the last few years, how many Iraqi deaths is our country responsible for? How many children wander the streets of Iraq as orphans?
Toby Wollin @ 38
Right now, the concrete reality is that the US uses Turkish bases and Turkish airspace to occupy Iraq, and they can use Turkey to attack Iran. Throwing a 100-year old wrench into the continuation of the neocon war plans is a good thing. There is plenty of time later to diplomatically deal with the EU thing. That is not what this is about. Fuck the Turks right now, they deserve it for enabling the works of these clowns to result in the death of a million Iraqis and the future unnecessary deaths of millions of Iranians. Who in EU wants them in EU when they have helped the neocon agenda? This is a strategic chance to thwart their efforts…
I believe that the UE is leading Turkey down the garden path. The Cyprus issue is #1, but the genocide is #2 and #3 is to be determined. There was an article about the “insulting Turkishness” case as a hurdle for EU membership at the LA times but the link is broke.
Don’t believe the lies. This is not about sympathy for a genocide that occurred 100 years ago.
I have traveled quite few places where watchful eyes weigh heavy on one as they wander aimlessly through foreign streets. Turkey weighed very heavy with watchful eyes one could easily see and plenty which were not so easy to see.
Atrios and the Booman Tribune have a much more relevant comment than this one.
http://www.boomantribune.com/s…../155215/11
OT, but just stopped in for the first time today, and see Blue America referenced in an AP article as helping change a Bush Dog’s vote. My god, that is fantastic!
Blue America: The New MoveOn.
Wasn’t Dennis Hastert involved in shady dealings with Turkey? And wasn’t Sibel Edmonds gagged under ‘State Secrets Privilege?’
“Edmonds alleges that in the course of her work for the government, she found evidence that the FBI, State Department, and Pentagon had been infiltrated by a Turkish intelligence organization suspected of ties to terrorism. She also accused members of the FBI’s translation unit of sabotage, intimidation, corruption and incompetence.[6][7]
Edmonds also claims to have witnessed evidence of the intersection of global drug trafficking, money laundering, information laundering and terrorist activity, the state dept and Turkish governments denial of the Armenian Genocide and that certain investigations into these subjects were quashed at the State Department’s request because of their potential impact on both foreign relations and relationships with foreign businesses.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds
I remember Vanity Fair did a article about Hastert and his Turkish ties awhile ago.
“Edmonds has given confidential testimony inside a secure Sensitive Compartmented Information facility on several occasions: to congressional staffers, to investigators from the O.I.G., and to the staff from the 9/11 commission. Sources familiar with this testimony say that, in addition to her allegations about the Dickersons, she reported hearing Turkish wiretap targets boast that they had a covert relationship with a very senior politician indeed—Dennis Hastert, Republican congressman from Illinois and Speaker of the House since 1999. The targets reportedly discussed giving Hastert tens of thousands of dollars in surreptitious payments in exchange for political favors and information. “The Dickersons,” says one official familiar with the case, “are only the tip of the iceberg.”
http://www.informationclearing…..le9774.htm
Ironically, the Turks denied Shrub overflight and passage of the 4th ID, during the build-up and execution of GWII! They were forced to sail through the Suez and debark in Kuwait, denied Rummy the pincer move they’d envisioned…!!!
Don’t forget that Denny Hastert came within one day of bringing a similar resolution to the floor. He pulled it after a sufficient number of $500 contributions (lots and lots and lots of them) were deposited into his campaign accounts. For some very strange reason, the story found only a few outlets (blogs and Amy Goodman) and has remained uninvestigated. I think Sibel Edmonds had something to say about it.
Eureka Springs @ 46
Hee Hee. “Curtain Culture”. The more prevalent and opaque the curtains, the more likely it is the neighbors are watching you. That’s my theory. Turks gossip like nobody’s business. I think Romania is the worst for feeling watched, though.
Naomi’s up! Already.
Turkey’s prime minister gave the green light on Tuesday for possible military action in northern Iraq to confront Kurdish rebels there, drawing a warning from the United States, which fears wider regional instability.
The ruling AK Party said it would request, as soon as possible, parliament’s authorization for a major incursion into the mainly Kurdish region, Turkish private broadcasters CNN Turk and NTV reported.
The latest incident that has led to this crisis was a PKK ambush that killed 13 Turkish soldiers on Sunday. However, this has been building for a very long time.
“Wherever a Turkish bayonet appears, there is no Kurdish problem.”
http://www.bitsofnews.com/content/view/6261/
RockPaperScizzors @ 49
I thought maybe my tinfoil hat was on a little too tight, but I immediately thought of Dennis Hastert and Sibel Edmonds too.
I guess I am very angry that this administration continually disregards the wishes and needs of our allies. The Turks didnt want a Iraq war either.
I was in Germany in 92 and I made the mistake of calling Turks Germans. I got corrected by my hosts. But it’s not just the Germans it’s the French too. And I cant see the creepy Polish wonder-twins administration voting to allow Turkey’s admission to the EU.
Ok now I’ll read Naomi.
Turkish military along with the CIA and other US “agencies” is heavily into the transport of heroine poppies to Turkey where it is processed. We’re talking on the scales of moving thousands of metric tons of the stuff. You don’t do that stashed under the floor boards.
Sibel knows that the CIA and the Turks are deep into the drug trade to Europe through Turkey and Hastert is the point man in Congress who makes it happen. He’s getting / was getting lotys of cash from the Turks.
The Ingelik (sp?) is one of those huge US bases in, of course Southern Turkey. And of course Turkey sits on the Bosporus which is the gateway for all Caspian Sea shipping… of oil? No way… And it was a nice littel spot to park some nuke tipped missles aimed at the Big Bear.
We’re tight with Turkey. But the EU don’t want them in. Hmmmm strange bedfellows eh?
And someday people will argue about the deaths we have caused in Iraq. A shame upon the nation. We are better than this. How to turn things around.
If Turkey is moral anathema for the genocide, we shouldn’t have accepted their help in NATO, supplying troops in Korea, basing for our missles, etc. Trying to shame them now over something that happened a century ago just makes us look like posturing hypocrites. Aside from the fact that we are posturing hypocrites, this will have some consequences that are difficult to predict, but could be hugely negative for us and the whole ME.