mui @ 100

. . . .Please remember the anxiety on the part of the M. Chinese as to the actual “value” of the American dollar and the future of that american dollar. Plus, They also have a right to fuel their economy so they can make more toys for Walmart Nation.

1) Yer sayin M. Chinese is mainland Chinese?
Why would you make that disticntion?

2) Why would the Chinese have any anxiety upon the holding of our debt? Will that debt failing, cause THEM to lose in any way? I am NOT an econ . . . that’s why I ask. I continue to presume the Chinese have our balls in a vice. Do you believe different, and if so, why? Here to learn from those who know more than I do.

3) “Plus, They also have a right to fuel their economy so they can make more toys for Walmart Nation”

Ya lost me, completely.

IMHO The Chinese can continue their growth with other markets, for their toys, FAR beyond the USA dream of corporate dominion.

But if they call in the chips WE owe them, we are screwed, at home and abroad, where our fallin US MeriKan is failing to the EURO, and others.

And teh Chinois might STILL have access to our market, after this . . .

What am I missing?

1)Um yes. It’s very good to make that distinction. Tawain, HongKong, Mainland Chinese. There are differences. Big ones.
2) Yes There has been some back and forth on the dollar debt. You hurt us, we can hurt you. Don’t feel like elaborating. But it takes two to tango.
3) Sure they can, but the Western market is of crucial importance. Traditionally it has been that way for all “asian miracle nations” Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong.
4) I have a little project called deconstructing China. I only challenge folks to come up with less generalizations when it comes to China, more analysis.

I come to FDL site from somewhere in Asia so do not have access to Bill Moyers.

The local available cable service does carry CNN International but in most ways as with CNN in the States it offers at best a so-so or worse blend of slanted and dumbed down “news” and editorial tilt. Oddly enough however CNN International shows Jon Stewart and TDS here.Go figure…

With span the planet Inet however one is able to come up for air easily enough and sites such as FDL surely are a breath of fresh air these days.

Thank you for pointing out Bill Moyers ES. I am sure his comments are/were worthy/valid ones which very likely I would agree with.

. . .
It’s about something else.

OK! Woof! *G*

. . . Peabody’s mountain top removal program . . .

“Daddy woncha take me to Mewlenburg County.
Down by the Green River where Paradise lay.”

Mr. Peabody’s coal train done hauled it away, indeed . . . *G*

larue @ 99

They are SO not kewl with usa ingerfering in their ME deals with pipelines, and such.

We burned Russia, China and Germany in Afghanistan when the Taliban told us, NO DEAL!!! And signed with Russia, China, and Germany for a gas pipeline thru Afghan.

Cheney was the front man at the time, ‘98 I believe?

Then came 9/11, and we WASTED any chance of that pipeline being built.

And now Russia, China, India, Iran, Turkey and a few others have GREAT deals in place, for oil AND gas pipelines.

Hell, Isreal gets it gas from Russia, thru Turkey, if I’m not mistaken??????

And the USA is bound and determined to screw up them deals . . . other than the one’s with Isreal, that is.

Let’s talk international resources and politics and war!!!!

And let’s shut down the pathetic oilagarchy we are and save our constitution and make the masses the savior of our future . . . for the common good . . .

Oh, then I woke up . . . ;-)

You’re okay. It’s going to be fixed. We just need to be united!

Yes, but I often disagree about WHAT we need to be united on . . . hope you don’t mind, ma’am. ;-)

(hattip)

. . .
Actually, as Al Gore keeps on pointing out (especially in recent speeches), the Chinese may just be on the path to weaning themselves off oil faster or at least becoming much more oil efficient than we can (coal is another matter altogether.. neither country is going to get off that diet anytime ever). Oil efficiency and alternative energy are very high on the Chinese list of policy priorities, while our shrubocracy is still sabotaging all the alternatives while half heartedly promoting the scam that is ethanol.

You have a great grasp upon the raping and pillaging that’s going on . . . thanks! *G*

RonD @ 94

On the “strike vs. protest” question, I think it would be far easier to motivate for a weekend protest…and a successful, massive protest would lay the groundwork for a far more successful strike than a strike by itself, IMO…..But, hell, I’ll support whichever I can get to. Or, hell, as I said before-BOTH.

I go for the Saturday protest. Totally. Big time.

OK! Im in Sacto, tell me when and where to show up!

Geez . . . . with or without the frisbee’s and the bbq?

*G*

. . . .Please remember the anxiety on the part of the M. Chinese as to the actual “value” of the American dollar and the future of that american dollar. Plus, They also have a right to fuel their economy so they can make more toys for Walmart Nation.

1) Yer sayin M. Chinese is mainland Chinese?
Why would you make that disticntion?

2) Why would the Chinese have any anxiety upon the holding of our debt? Will that debt failing, cause THEM to lose in any way? I am NOT an econ . . . that’s why I ask. I continue to presume the Chinese have our balls in a vice. Do you believe different, and if so, why? Here to learn from those who know more than I do.

3) “Plus, They also have a right to fuel their economy so they can make more toys for Walmart Nation”

Ya lost me, completely.

IMHO The Chinese can continue their growth with other markets, for their toys, FAR beyond the USA dream of corporate dominion.

But if they call in the chips WE owe them, we are screwed, at home and abroad, where our fallin US MeriKan is failing to the EURO, and others.

And teh Chinois might STILL have access to our market, after this . . .

What am I missing?