Tom Petty speaks for me on the whole backing down thing. Naomi Wolf's post here today was utterly awesome. General strike on November 6th? I could be convinced.
Here's an NPR story about how U.S. workers are afraid to strike these days for fear we'll lose our jobs.
Dorris Lessing on winning the Nobel Prize for Literature:
"Oh, Christ, I couldn't care less."
Gosh, I wonder if she'd like to be my surrogate auntie or something. Shhhh, don't tell her I said this, but that'll be Jane at 90. ("Nobel Prize? F*&k off! You're trampling my irises, you miserable sh#tstains!")
That plan to build a Vatican-sized American embassy in Iraq?
It is no more. It is an ex-plan. It has joined the choir invisible.
Construction contractor and Oregon Democratic blogger Chuck Butcher says:
And the Republicans have the nerve to talk about and campaign on taxes and spending responsibility? In Japan they'd shut up and commit Hari Kari, here they run for President.
Some jerkwad hung a noose on a black professor's door at Columbia Journalism School. I'll bet you ten bucks that jerkwad reads Michelle Malkin every single day. I'll bet you twenty that Stalkin' Malkin drives up to New York examine the office door and to accuse the professor of hanging the noose there herself.
But remember kids, Tony Snow says racism's not such a "big deal" these days.
Speaking of liars for hire, Joan Walsh wonders how long it's going to take for Dana Perino to decide she wants to spend more time with Karen Hughes's family. It takes a certain special something to make Scott McClellan look competent.
Anything in particular you want to talk about tonight?
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TRex!!!
TRex!!
TRex!!
Did I mention GENERAL STRIKE, 11/6/07?
Didn’t make 500.
g’ebening trex - sorry i was so late and missed your first thread
sixth!
Oooops….You mentioned it…..well still…..
(and I loved Doris Lessing’s reaction today. AND her comments about Mugabe).
i have dutifully informed those below, er, downstairs.
Saw a clip of Doris Lessing today, coming out her front door with a glass of water, looking like any old British gran. Loved it.
Nobel Peace Prize will be announced at 0200 CA time Friday morning.
Hey TRex
Steve-AR @ 4
We sure gave it a go, didn’t we?
Here’s some seriously bad fuckery at the CIA (apologies if this was discussed earlier — I just got home).
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10.....el.html?hp
If it’s destruction…Count me out.
;>)
Steve-AR @ 4
Tomorrow night is another day.
burnspbesq @ 13
that’s some fuckery, and looks like a retaliatory ‘investigation’ to me.
burnspbesq @ 13
fuck is right
LoudounLib @ 12
I remember when 25 comments on an FDL thread was a big deal. TRex changed all of that. Won’t be too long until LN plus LLN will be over 1k comments.
Suzanne @ 10
CA time? Is that California time? And that wouldn’t be Pacific Time?
Wordsmith @ 19
Geez. What happens if Al doesn’t get it? How embarassing would that be?
That would be 0500 EDT, and I’ll either have to stay up all night or get up way early. What to do…what to do…
darkblack @ 14
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
PAUL!!! I LOVE YOU, PAAAAUUUL!!
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
[/beatlemania]
Wordsmith @ 19
i’ve had several glasses of some fancy smancy french raspberry wine stuff tonight… i used CA time since I’m in CA and was unable to remember if the time change has happened yet… (has it?) are we PDT or PST?
TRex @ 22
TRex, did I tell you that I’ve just got back from Liverpool? *g*
epu
TexBetsy @ 420
anyone click?
Ferrrrrry
Cross the Mersey…
TRex @ 22
And it isn’t even time for the p*nis measuring contest yet
;>)
*MOD NOTE *Edited
TRex @ 26
You got it. Totally magical!
TexBetsy @ 25
Maybe someone will do it in claymation.
TexBetsy @ 25
Betsy! You devil!
Suzanne…. thought it was the oxycotin stuff was potent… Since Congress messed with the date of the time change, which will not be the same date every fall or spring for the next 4 years.
AZ… it is PDT or MST until the first week in Nov where it will still be MST
Who me? I didn’t write it. I am just proud to work with these folks!
Let’s talk about what’s wrong with the Democratic “leadership” in Congress, that they are talking about giving the telecom companies immunity for aiding and abetting in Bush’s ILLEGAL spying on American citizens without warrants.
Speaking of heads exploding, has anyone seen Teddy tonight? He might be a candidate if he’s read this.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10.....mo.html?hp
db, your comment was trapped in the filters - now freed
Hard refresh, everybody!
:-)
Suzanne @ 35
Thank you, S. - Evidently, it was time for the p*nis editing contest, instead.
;>)
neurophius @ 32
I think that the fisa bill would also give immunity to Blackfuckwadwater.
SUZ! Thanks for verifying the 2 AM our Gore time - think I’ll make some strong tea to help me stay conscious.
marymccurnin @ 38
Can we please have the next Congressional election in November 2007 instead of 2008?
The Lurking Mod @ 36
uh - would that be the blue arrow on my Mac screen at top?
Sorry President Gore and pups — can’t stay up late, and probably can’t even get up early (f*ckin’ jet lag still plaguing me)
Good night all!
TRex @ 22
You meant Paul Krugman, right?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10.....an.html?hp
newspaperbrat @ 41
yes indeed!
TexBetsy @ 25
“Thou should not judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in his rubber flippers.”-somebody from huffpo
newspaperbrat @ 41
Hold down the Command (Cmd, the one with the apple symbol on it) and hit R.
Krugman hits it out of the park:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10.....ef=opinion
darkblack @ 14
Revolution
The Beatles
Would Hillary Clinton Waterboard?
from NYT > Opinion by CHRIS SUELLENTROP
Will Senator Clinton delineate which specific interrogation tactics she believes are torture and which are not?
TexBetsy @ 44
So that’s what that is. Who says FDL isn’t educational.
My hubby said if I don’t get off the computer right now and go into the living room and kiss and hug him he was going to get really mad.
See ya!
Report: 2,000 Died During Arrests Between 2003 and 2005
from TalkLeft by Jeralyn
http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r.....782188/521
The first results of the Death in Custody Reporting Act are in: 2,002 people died while being arrested in the U.S. between 2003 and 2005.
At least 2,002 people died during their arrests by state and local law enforcement officers from 2003 through 2005, the Justice Department reported yesterday. Of those suspects, officers themselves killed more than half, 80 percent of whom, the officers reported, had threatened or assaulted them with a weapon.
Drug and alcohol intoxication was the second-leading cause of death, accounting for 13 percent of the total, followed by suicide, accidental injuries, and illnesses or other natural causes.
yellowdog jim @ 48
What a bunch of wholesome youngsters…I predict big things for them.
;>)
darkblack @ 53
seem english
Nice to see Chuck Butcher get a little TRex love. He ran in the 06 primary here in an attempt to oust Greg Walden. He didn’t win, but I like his straight-shooting style. Still noone round these parts ready to take on Rubber Stamper Walden (who voted against SCHIP btw). Hello OR-02, wake the fuck up, s’il vous plait.
need haircuts tho
Evenin’ all,
just dropping by to say hi. was reviewing homework with one of my kids. Civics. yes, say it with me…Bill of Rights. wahoo!
I told a couple of teens today about the Frost family and boy, were they in shock to hear it. “Can you imagine being in seventh grade and the honor of being asked to come to Congress, thinking you are doing this really cool thing and then your family is stalked and get death threats?”
OK, with all the goings all I needed to share a little bit of silly with you. The video is totally stupid, but the song still cracks me up.
Troglodyte
Yay for civics education!
yellowdog jim @ 54
That’s no longer an impediment to success in the ‘colonies’, I’m told. They’ll probably tone it down for the press.
Suzanne @ 56
Perhaps a nice perm on the one with glasses.
;>)
Everyone go to bed? Figures, when I finally have a few free moments :)
OK, here’s a little civics: the big news around here is the teacher wanting to pack her concealed weapon in the classroom. This is the district in which I teach, but I don’t know her personally. Her story was on NPR this afternoon. Circuit Judge refused to dismiss the case. Interesting constitutional issue. Says her ex is a threat, but why then should she bring that threat upon all those students? She said that she has widespread teacher support, but the follow-up wasn’t asked: “How about support among the parents and students?” Not so much from what I’m hearing. What do you all think?
Suzanne @ 56
do not care for the mop tops?
TexBetsy @ 58
HiTB,
It was a rocky start with the teacher beginning a couple of local dem scandals that just pale in comparison to all the crap we discuss here daily. So for fairness and balance, I snuck in the moveon.org ad and an article about “phony soldiers”.
If I need the Howitzer later, I’ll print out Hugh’s list.
yellowdog jim @ 61
just quoting what my dad said when he first saw em on the teevee
TexBetsy @ 58
accord education is even better, I understand.
rat bastahd @ 60
They’re trying to do that in michigan too. Probably the dumbest thing i’ve ever heard. I know it’s dangerous everywhere today. But guns in school? no no and no again!
rat bastahd @ 60
The fewer bullets we have flying around children in this world, the fucking better.
That lady’s a loon.
Just one week after the New York Times revealed the existence of secret Bush administration memos condoning an uninterrupted policy of detainee torture by the CIA, it appears to be payback time. In a highly unusual move, the Times reports CIA Director Michael Hayden has ordered an investigation into the agency’s watchdog office itself, led by Inspector General John L. Helgerson.
For the details, see:
“Payback Time: CIA Director Investigates His Inspector General.”
The teacher should ask for a transfer or resign. She doesn’t belong where she is.
rat bastahd @ 60
Yikes. this is one of those stories where you gotta get all the facts before diving in. I can see if the BF is scary, he is going to show up anyway, whether or not she has a gun. On the other hand, having a gun around is scary too. Does the school have a lockdown drill?
OT but a note to Yellowdog Jim - just wanted to thank you for the info on the China F1 GP. I was stuck on the phone so couldn’t comment but I was sitting here following the progress. Thanks.
rat bastahd @ 60
what grade level does she taech?
sixth grade or better?
arm all the kids with tasers and have them cook the ex if he shows up.
they could also take care of some of the problem parents.
I recall that she had been stalked by her ex. Would want to know all the facts first.
She needs to work on her relationship skills more than she needs to work on her marksmanship.
Buffy on guns:
rat bastahd @ 60
Not to belittle the situation (of which I know next to nothing about)…But if the ex is enough of a threat to warrant a concealed carry permit, why would somebody want to hold a job that puts you in the same place at the same time every weekday?
darkblack @ 74
Why do we want someone like that around our children?
Let me say it: my answer is the dumbest one to the gun at school question. the others are more reasonable.
OK, IT”S probably bedtime for me and the ‘puter. ciao.
I feel like I didn’t get the memo re Naomi Wolf.
My reaction to her post is diametrically opposite to what seems to be the consensus view.
Glenzilla gives Abe Foxman a break and picks instead on poor Joe Klein and his support for FISA amnesty: http://www.salon.com/opinion/g.....index.html
Note that retroactive-immunity advocate Gorelick is a Hillary advisor and the leading contender to be Attorney General should Hillary get win in 2008.
On Countdown tonight Hillary skillfully refused to answer Olbermann on FISA matters saying more than once that the Senate needs to get together and “decide what the best thing to do.” Somehow that’s not very reassuring.
db, if the stalking was enough to warrant her being granted a concealed weapon permit, why is the stalker out and about?
TRex @ 75
Point taken, also…Seems like a magnet for potential unpleasantries involving the innocent.
Suzanne @ 79
Ding!
Am I hearing you say the victim of stalking should just give up her life, her career, and become invisible so he can’t find her and put those around her at risk?
newtonusr @ 80
Because it is almost impossible to get perpetrators of domestic violence (including ex-boyfriends) held in jail for more than a day or a week.
burnspbesq @ 77
How so?
Suzanne @ 81
She should protect herself and not put children at risk. If she can’t lock her classroom door and if the school does not have sufficient security, then she should do what she needs to in order to protect herself. That may involve moving. Courts in the US do not take stalking seriously enough.
Suzanne @ 79
Probably lack of evidence.
TexBetsy @ 83
And our legal system’s failure forces her to have to choose between staying alive and having a life.
Let me toss a hypothetical out here: If TRex was being stalked would the pups be saying that he should just quit his job and stop putting those others at his workplace at risk?
The ex was quoted in the paper as saying “Im not a threat, she is pulling this stunt to get full custody of our daughter.” Like if something happens now, he isn’t going to be fingered immediately. It would be a good way to, perhaps, keep the ex at bay, but she is pursuing this case against the school district nonetheless.
No matter the situation, I am against guns in school, period! There are other ways to protect this woman, and putting kids in the middle is not the answer.
TRex works in a radio station. I assume one door. Possibly two. Security would not be that hard. This lady works in a school. Many entrances. Many innocents. Playgrounds. Very different situation.
Suzanne @ 79
Well, we know there are cracks in the framework…Perceived intent is not action, or association.
The potential for a firefight in a crowded classroom will probably be the deciding factor, IMO.
Suzanne @ 82
No, the preference would be apprehension prior to commission. Unfortunately, I’m speculating beyond the available data.
Suzanne @ 82
You’re certainly not hearing me say that. But I don’t see her packing in the classroom as the optimal solution. If she needs to be protected from the ex, then establish a secure perimeter around the school, or make him wear an ankle bracelet that works as a proximity alarm.
rat bastahd @ 60
I think I’m glad I don’t live in America.
rat bastahd @ 88
The threat risk was sufficient for her to be issued a CCW permit.
persiflage @ 70
glad you enjoyed.
i was transfixed.
Brazil
will decide the driver’s championship.
2007 Brazil Grand Prix
persiflage @ 92
I have to admit, I share the sentiment sometimes - and think of moving elsewhere. But then I remind myself that would be giving up the fight to save us from ourselves.
yellowdog jim @ 94
I got to see it later that night. I just love when it comes down to the last race to decide the championship. I’m looking forward to Brazil.
Her court case is based on schools being a “public place” and the concealed weapons law allows them to carry them on the job in “public places.” Yet we don’t allow concealed weapons in courts, airports, etc. that I’m aware of. Plus, my job puts me in multiple school buildings each day, and I must sign in and put on a visitor’s badge so schools aren’t exactly public places in which just anyone can walk in off the street for no reason. Not that it would be impossible to sneak into one of these schools, but the ex has been publicly pegged at this point.
I’m trying to look at this from a constitutional viewpoint, but my rational self (as the father of a school-aged daughter) keeps getting in the way. How do you all feel about armed security guards in schools then?
We have 2-4 armed police officers in the HS where I work. I am completely comfortable with that. They are well trained and professional.
Suzanne @ 95
I’m a first-class wuss. Guns give me the heebyjeebies. In this case though, guns aren’t the problem per se. There are countries in the world with high levels of gun ownership and low levels of gun crime (Switzerland?) so it has to be in the culture.