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	<title>Comments on: Baron Hill and SCHIP:  Saved By the Bell</title>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
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		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027916&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bigwellswift @ 72&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027909&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;mui @ 71&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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I don’t like that part of the bill. I think we should be taxing the lords (companies) and not the peasants(the consumers). But it took x amount of fire lit under such and such congresscritters arses . . .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Taxing the companies adds up to the same thing. That tax will be passed directly to the retailer. The large companies never really pay when you charge it all back to the customers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And by the way, when you drag cigars along with the cigarettes tax wise, you will put thousands of impoverished Latin Americans out of work. Make that 100s of thousands. No pun intended but pick your poison.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If our tax dollars were spent correctly we plebes wouldn’t have to continually cough up more taxes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Agreed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1027916"><em>Bigwellswift @ 72</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1027909"><em>mui @ 71</em></a></p>
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I don’t like that part of the bill. I think we should be taxing the lords (companies) and not the peasants(the consumers). But it took x amount of fire lit under such and such congresscritters arses . . .</p>
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<p>Taxing the companies adds up to the same thing. That tax will be passed directly to the retailer. The large companies never really pay when you charge it all back to the customers.</p>
<p>And by the way, when you drag cigars along with the cigarettes tax wise, you will put thousands of impoverished Latin Americans out of work. Make that 100s of thousands. No pun intended but pick your poison.</p>
<p>If our tax dollars were spent correctly we plebes wouldn’t have to continually cough up more taxes.</p>
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<p>Agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like the formulation that the Dems are “terrified” by the sound of silence.  They must have people marching in the streets in order to support (give them cover) a progressive idea, but if they hear nothing they are terrified of retribution from a silent majority.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the formulation that the Dems are “terrified” by the sound of silence.  They must have people marching in the streets in order to support (give them cover) a progressive idea, but if they hear nothing they are terrified of retribution from a silent majority.</p>
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		<title>By: wmd</title>
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		<dc:creator>wmd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If the pressure is let off one iota Baron Hill will do the wrong thing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for running the as in the HT. I think the robocalls might have had a bit of an impact as well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m still looking for primary opposition for Hill.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the pressure is let off one iota Baron Hill will do the wrong thing.</p>
<p>Thanks for running the as in the HT. I think the robocalls might have had a bit of an impact as well.</p>
<p>I’m still looking for primary opposition for Hill.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Use the Send Message button &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/?id=245&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; to, well, send Baron Hill a message.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use the Send Message button <a href="http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/?id=245">here</a> to, well, send Baron Hill a message.</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027837&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Millineryman @ 43&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I thought the purpose of a strike is to shut day to day business down to make a point. If it’s on a Saturday wouldn’t it be more of a protest?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At last, sanity prevails . . . sigh. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Social Change just ain’t what it used to be . . .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1027837"><em>Millineryman @ 43</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I thought the purpose of a strike is to shut day to day business down to make a point. If it’s on a Saturday wouldn’t it be more of a protest?</p>
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<p>At last, sanity prevails . . . sigh. </p>
<p>Social Change just ain’t what it used to be . . .</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027834&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cleter @ 40&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027828&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo. @ 36&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Please hold up on the date.  We’ll get a lot more people if we can pull this off on a Saturday.  Union people will still be insured and hourly workers will not lose wages.  I think it’s important that the first date be a Saturday.  From my workplace alone, there would probably be twenty more people involved.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let me know what day to not-write, and I will totally be all over the not-writing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The worn underwear? The bunny slippers? Hmm? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Commitment don’t come easy, hoss . . . ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1027834"><em>cleter @ 40</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1027828"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 36</em></a></p>
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<p>Please hold up on the date.  We’ll get a lot more people if we can pull this off on a Saturday.  Union people will still be insured and hourly workers will not lose wages.  I think it’s important that the first date be a Saturday.  From my workplace alone, there would probably be twenty more people involved.</p>
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<p>Let me know what day to not-write, and I will totally be all over the not-writing.</p>
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<p>The worn underwear? The bunny slippers? Hmm? </p>
<p>Commitment don’t come easy, hoss . . . ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027831&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo. @ 38&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027807&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Everythingseemssoneat @ 21&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would like to have a beer with Cheney before Federal Marshals hauled him away.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Two shots of tokillya would be better!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ok, NOW I am in accord with yer way of ‘doing’. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But it’s gotta be 20 Year Anjejo of some sort. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*G*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That way we don’t need the lemon OR the salt! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*G*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1027831"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 38</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1027807"><em>Everythingseemssoneat @ 21</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I would like to have a beer with Cheney before Federal Marshals hauled him away.</p>
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<p>Two shots of tokillya would be better!</p>
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<p>Ok, NOW I am in accord with yer way of ‘doing’. </p>
<p>But it’s gotta be 20 Year Anjejo of some sort. </p>
<p>*G*</p>
<p>That way we don’t need the lemon OR the salt! </p>
<p>*G*</p>
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		<title>By: Bigwellswift</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/11/baron-hill-and-schip-saved-by-the-bell/#comment-1027916</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigwellswift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027909&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;mui @ 71&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027904&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bigwellswift @ 69&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Isn’t it somewhat ironic that to fund children’s health insurance requires that another group of people MUST smoke. Well fuck then….enough of the anti-smoking laws. Let’s everybody chain smoke our lungs black so we can insure every child. The logic is way on the far side of stupid.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t like that part of the bill. I think we should be taxing the lords (companies) and not the peasants(the consumers). But it took x amount of fire lit under such and such congresscritters arses . . .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Taxing the companies adds up to the same thing. That tax will be passed directly to the retailer. The large companies never really pay when you charge it all back to the customers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And by the way, when you drag cigars along with the cigarettes tax wise, you will put thousands of impoverished Latin Americans out of work. Make that 100s of thousands. No pun intended but pick your poison.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If our tax dollars were spent correctly we plebes wouldn’t have to continually cough up more taxes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1027909"><em>mui @ 71</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1027904"><em>Bigwellswift @ 69</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Isn’t it somewhat ironic that to fund children’s health insurance requires that another group of people MUST smoke. Well fuck then….enough of the anti-smoking laws. Let’s everybody chain smoke our lungs black so we can insure every child. The logic is way on the far side of stupid.</p>
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<p>I don’t like that part of the bill. I think we should be taxing the lords (companies) and not the peasants(the consumers). But it took x amount of fire lit under such and such congresscritters arses . . .</p>
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<p>Taxing the companies adds up to the same thing. That tax will be passed directly to the retailer. The large companies never really pay when you charge it all back to the customers.</p>
<p>And by the way, when you drag cigars along with the cigarettes tax wise, you will put thousands of impoverished Latin Americans out of work. Make that 100s of thousands. No pun intended but pick your poison.</p>
<p>If our tax dollars were spent correctly we plebes wouldn’t have to continually cough up more taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/11/baron-hill-and-schip-saved-by-the-bell/#comment-1027909</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027904&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bigwellswift @ 69&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Isn’t it somewhat ironic that to fund children’s health insurance requires that another group of people MUST smoke. Well fuck then….enough of the anti-smoking laws. Let’s everybody chain smoke our lungs black so we can insure every child. The logic is way on the far side of stupid.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t like that part of the bill. I think we should be taxing the lords (companies) and not the peasants(the consumers). But it took x amount of fire lit under such and such congresscritters arses . . .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1027904"><em>Bigwellswift @ 69</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Isn’t it somewhat ironic that to fund children’s health insurance requires that another group of people MUST smoke. Well fuck then….enough of the anti-smoking laws. Let’s everybody chain smoke our lungs black so we can insure every child. The logic is way on the far side of stupid.</p>
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<p>I don’t like that part of the bill. I think we should be taxing the lords (companies) and not the peasants(the consumers). But it took x amount of fire lit under such and such congresscritters arses . . .</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1027828&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo. @ 36&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; . . . .  Please hold up on the date.  We’ll get a lot more people if we can pull this off on a Saturday.  Union people will still be insured and hourly workers will not lose wages.  I think it’s important that the first date be a Saturday.  From my workplace alone, there would probably be twenty more people involved.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Geez, it’s not a work strike/stoppage if it’s on a weekend and a day off . . . what part of that am I missing? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; . . . I thought a work stoppage and strike was about sacrifice, and making a point. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But if ya wanna take a weekend day to do it, I’ll bring my portable TV, we can watch the playoffs, and I’ll have lots of non union cold Coors in my cooler. A lil bbq, mesquite coals, some German Potato Salad, and Sweet Tea and lemonade for our Southern pals. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Frisbee’s too?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1027828"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 36</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p> . . . .  Please hold up on the date.  We’ll get a lot more people if we can pull this off on a Saturday.  Union people will still be insured and hourly workers will not lose wages.  I think it’s important that the first date be a Saturday.  From my workplace alone, there would probably be twenty more people involved.</p>
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<p>Geez, it’s not a work strike/stoppage if it’s on a weekend and a day off . . . what part of that am I missing? </p>
<p> . . . I thought a work stoppage and strike was about sacrifice, and making a point. </p>
<p>But if ya wanna take a weekend day to do it, I’ll bring my portable TV, we can watch the playoffs, and I’ll have lots of non union cold Coors in my cooler. A lil bbq, mesquite coals, some German Potato Salad, and Sweet Tea and lemonade for our Southern pals. </p>
<p>Frisbee’s too?</p>
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