I understand the true volume levels didn’t make it on TV, but during the Yankee game on Monday night Rudy Giuliani was resoundingly booed by New Yorkers:
For years, George Steinbrenner and right wing nutcases running the New York Yankees have subtly and overtly attempted to turn a nonpolitical sporting event such as watching a baseball game at Yankees stadium into a 1930s style German propaganda event to promote right wing politicians, right wing views on religion, and right wing views on Iraq. It’s no longer take me out to the ballgame and as a Yankee fan, I find it disgusting.
The most frequent use of mixing politics and baseball at Yankee stadium is Steinbrenner’s promotion of right wing extremist Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani gets a front row, unimpeded view of Yankee games because these seats are given to him by Steinbrenner. Then Yankee stadium officials and the networks try to plaster Rudy Giuliani’s face all over the big screen and the television. This amounts to millions of dollars of free advertising, something quite beneficial when you are running for President.
But Steinbrenner overplayed his hand. Giuliani got roundly booed at Yankee Stadium and this will play out on the campaign trail.
I was there and Giuliani was booed not once but twice, the second time during God Bless America, which he did not appear to know the words to.
It doesn’t look like his “Hero of 9/11″ crap is selling too well to hard core New Yorkers, does it?
Update: Olbermann:
During the 7th inning stretch, as the tenor Ronan Tynan sang “God Bless America” was sang he was shown on the video screen and there was no mistaking what happened next. He was briefly but lustily booed. No cheers or applause at all. Kind of uncouth, during “God Bless America,” but perhaps very telling.
(h/t biodun)
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Jane!
The fact that I would agree with a yankee supporter is horrifying
Go Sox!
Yep:
I saw that on teevee. He was booed twice. The first booing was mixed in with applause. The second was booing outright. We’ve known for some time that most (native) New Yorkers (like me) don’t like Rudy.
And Keith made quite a bit of it on Countdown last night. (Transcript not up yet.)
nomolos @ 2
The fact that I would agree with a yankee supporter is horrifying
evidently, on this issue, I agree with a whole bunch of Yankee supporters.
S’okay – I’ll just walk it off.
(((((((JANE)))))) you go girl!
Hey Jane:
I like the pic! So you’re a Yankees fan…
Biodun @ 7
Not really, I just go to games.
Hi,Jane and everyone,
Jane, I hope you are doing well, sending you light and power.
Rudy’s standing in the polls totally mystifies me as does the nonsense about Thompson. The notion of either of them actually becoming the gooper choice is beyond imagining.
Rudy deserves daily booing; maybe we could get his cell number?
Looking good Jane…except for that hat of course. What size do you wear?? I’ll send you a Bosox hat instead and pretend I never saw that picture. I converted 15 years ago and feel much better!! :)
Yeah, but Rudy’s rendition of Horst-Wessel brings down the house…
of justice.
drinksforall @ 10
Do they have sizes? Red is a good color for me.
*g*
jayt @ 5
evidently, on this issue, I agree with a whole bunch of Yankee supporters.
S’okay – I’ll just walk it off.
Yeah, this is one of those issues where Yankees haters can be in full agreement with the Yankee lovers.
(Confirmed Yankee hater since 1961).
The baseball playoffs have been great timing with my recovery from surgery. It was great to hear your comment while watching the game the other night.
The Yankees pissed me off in 2001 when our great Diamondbacks were playing so well and pretty much implied that they need to throw the game to the Yankees because they deserve to win because they are “America’s team” BUT…. so what did that make our AZ team then?
To those with the tin foil hat syndrome… the reason that the boo’s did not make it on the air is because the crowd mike either was NOT on or not in the area that of the stadium. TeeVee crews really DO NOT have a political agenda, they are just doing their job AND they try to be as apolitical as possible.
Sorry, OT again……
I don’t know if this had been posted here, but this is some of the ‘official news real time’ reporting part of that exercise.
The TOPOFF 3 Full-Scale Exercise
The TOPOFF Full Scale Exercise (T3 FSE) will take place from April 4-8, 2005, and involve more than 10,000 participants representing more than 200 Federal, State, local, tribal, private sector, and international agencies and organizations and volunteer groups. The FSE offers agencies and jurisdictions a way to exercise a coordinated national and international response to a large-scale, multipoint terrorist attack. It allows participants to test plans and skills in a real-time, realistic environment and gain the in-depth knowledge that only experience can provide.
TOPOFF 3 In Brief:
Full-scale exercise: April 2005.
Five venues: Interagency, Connecticut, New Jersey, United Kingdom, Canada.
New Jersey scenario: Simulated biological attack in Union and Middlesex Counties.
Connecticut scenario: Simulated chemical attack in New London.
http://www.vloggingtheapocalyp…..ws_Network
Jane Hamsher @ 8
I’m guessing from the pic that you were not seated in the Steinbrenner box.
Here in NYC we fondly remember when he was running around the city trying to close down art exhibits he didn’t like. Boo indeed.
Jane Hamsher @ 12
Any color would look good on you!!!
katymine @ 14
NOt to swerve too far OT (and being from MA, I’m a sox fan), but I’ve been thinking about you katymine, and wishing you health. Am recovering from sudden surgery of my own and can’t be here much for awhile, but think of everyone daily.
I thought this was an adult blog..Jane is just a kid!!!
sneaking a peak from work and can’t do the research now. TPM or the Muck wrote up the Village Voice article showing Rudy’s abuses of the privileges accorded him by the Yankees. They also compared the hours spent at the Stadium to those at ground Zero and I believe the baseball hours were double those at Zero, which were ceremonial for the most part.
If anyone could provide link, I’d be grateful.
Rudi’s star is on the same trajectory as the Yankees and the going going gone is not a homer run. He is about to be torre-fied (Punaise will tell you that’s a French pun on the word for roasted, as in roasting coffee.)
It was my understanding that George Steinbrenner is suffering from Alzheimer’s.
Ergo, I found his comments about Joe Torre to be rather odd…
Maybe it was George Costanza that fueled that
statement?
In any case, according to Agent Boros, A-rod
will A-missing next year.
(((((zennurse)))))
(((((katymine)))))
Jane Hamsher @ 8
How many stadiums have you been to?
As someone who works only a few blocks from Ground Zero, and thus had to breathe the acrid fumes for months after being assured that it was “safe,” I tired of St. Rudy of 9/11 very quickly. I never voted for Rudy, but in the immediate aftermath of the attacks I had been impressed by his steady, reassuring tone during his press conferences — especially since President Bush was essentially missing in action. Then came Rudy’s suggestion that his term as Mayor (which was set to end on December 31, 2001) be extended for some indefinite time so that he could continue to lead us in our time of crisis. That’s when I remembered all the reasons why I had hated him on September 10.
New Yorkers are at a loss to understand why the myth of St. Rudy of 9/11 continues to play well in other parts of the country. They seem to be unconcerned about the failure to rectify known defects in the first responders’ communications systems; his disregard of his advisors’ pleas to locate his Emergency Command Center some place other than at the site of New York’s one proven terrorist target; and his consistent race-baiting and defense of police brutality against blacks. Not to mention his smug, bullying moralizing, coupled with his public announcement that he was dumping his wife for another woman without first informing said dumped wife privately. Oh, and did I mention BERNARD KERIK? Chauffeur, police chief, business partner, Iraq security advisor, Homeland Security Secretary nominee, user of rescue workers’ rest space as a love shack, acceptor of bribes. Bernard Kerik was someone Rudy promoted as a frakkin’ national security expert.
And now Rudy, who ran on both the Republican and Liberal Party lines for mayor, has now transformed himself into a tax-cutting believer of small government that isn’t afraid to threaten nuclear war, a pro-choice appointer of “strict constructionist” judges to the Supreme Court, and gun control advocate who thinks that after 9/11 we should all be packing heat.
But if you want to know what I REALLY think of Rudy, well, I’m not sure the administrators would let me use such language….
zennurse @ 19
Thinking of both of you and hope you are doing well.
“They weren’t booing they were shouting JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDY!”
- Judith Giuliani
T- @ 3
agree. If Jane wants to attend one of our games, there are Bluestaters who can help. Not right away, but in our next season.
Bay State Librul @ 22
A-rod’s wife is pregnant and has been quoted as saying she would like to go home..where is that you inquire? Lowell, Ma. !!
And Rudy (with Romney) kept going after Hillary late afternoon yesterday. I guess most Repugs are expecting a NY “subway series” in ‘08 (the latter to get back on topic)…*g*
Really do not want to be OT but if you missed late night when I gave my pathology report last night.
It was Renal Cell CA but encapsulated in the kidney and all nodes negative – Surgeon said the surgery “cured me”. All systems working and just the fun recovery from surgery.
Now… lets get back to baseball and Giuliani being boo’ed….
drinksforall @ 18
Jane, they have every conceivable size and have recently added pink, if that works for you. We have the most amazing and random selection ofRed Sox stuff available, even in our convenience stores.
BlueStateRedHead @ 21
I believe the article you refer to was by Wayne Barrett in the Village Voice. Wish I knew how to find it for you.
I’ll be curious to see how NY’ers dislike of Giuliani actually plays out in Middle America. Might be an asset for him. For all the post-9/11 embrace of NYC, I suspect most Americans still think of us as basically a foreign country. If only…
drinksforall @ 29
News flash: Lowell Spinners sign A-Rod to
a seven year deal… According to confidential sources, he will be rooming with Manny…
and voting for Nikki Tsongas
Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 5
It may be so in New York:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4n7uJnKGTGg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vKHLok-RVNw
And for those who weren’t there, Chris Matthews made sure he told everyone he could reach from his TV platform. He brought it up several times on his show, asking several pundits what they make of the fact that Rudy got booed at Yankee Stadium. Twice!
And the games really are swimming in right-wing garbage, especially when aired on the YES network:
1. Hummer ads in nearly every commercial break.
2. Cutting over to Neil Cavuto (!!) for completely pointless “Fox Means Business” segments.
3. Still playing that creepy-sounding 1940’s recording of “God Bless America” instead of “Take Me Out to the Ballgame.” The national anthem before a game is patriotic. Doing this in the middle of each game is not.
I can’t stop liking the Yankees, but thanks to YES, I’ve found myself watching the games less and less these past few years.
(((((((Jane!)))))))
Now that “Splash of Cold Water to the Face” Thompson (that Nixon zing was priceless – totally unravelled the poor guy on the afternoon of his debate debut) isn’t a threat, it seems almost certain Guiliani will be the Nominee, despite all of his infedlity and grandstanding.
The Big Fundies won’t get behind him, no way.
The Goopers have Zero chance of winning the Presidency in ‘08.
Let the Republican defections from The Agenda begin…
“Then came Rudy’s suggestion that his term as Mayor (which was set to end on December 31, 2001) be extended for some indefinite time so that he could continue to lead us in our time of crisis.”
Yikes. This should immediately disqualify him from running for further office.
Ann in AZ @ 37
When Keith O interviewed Tweety last night, he acted like a jerk!
One of the positive things about polls around Sept 10 was that they showed NYers were tired of Rudy & happy to let him go. But I guess 9/11 made Rudy! magically delicious to Tweety & his ilk.
Katymine! Yay!
How Giuliani spread his mystic:
I was working with a client in Green Bay, WI in 2003-2004 and on one trip the client had a single page write up about Giuliani “America’s Mayor” on the back of every bathroom stall. As a west coaster, I really do not have much connection to Giuliani but ever since then I connect bathrooms with Giuliani, way before Larry Craig.
From Countdown last night:
Bay State Librul @ 39
Well, for Tweety, acting like a jerk is normal, so he was just being himself.
At least last week when he was breaking his arm patting himself on the back for 10 years of Hardball, he was self aware enough to know one of his big problems is getting his man-crush on. He can’t control it but he at least recognizes it’s inappropriate.
katymine!!! WooHOO!
that’s GREAT news!
btw was the tumor bigger than 3 cm?
BlueStateRedHead @ 21
Here you go:
http://www.villagevoice.com/ne…..566,2.html
http://www.villagevoice.com/ne…..646,2.html
bluejeansntshirt @ 33
Does this help?
http://www.infowars.com/articl…..d_zero.htm
Elliott @ 47
Yep, as big as my fist….
katymine @ 14
If they can show a big screen visual of boody all across the stadium and nation, I don’t see why they can’t include the audio that accompanies it.
And if you don’t think even the tv techs of faux noise have a political agenda, you . have . not . been . paying . attention.
I am Red Sox nation but even I like to hear Ronan Tinan sing America the Beautiful (when it does not give me flashbacks to Boone) – but really hate it when the politic it up.
I just want to hear the song and enjoy the game. I don’t want to see Ben Affleck and I sure as hell don’t want to see Rudy or any other Pol.
How about giving the guy dying of the WTC in his lungs that found the cross at the WTC a front row ticket and show him? I bet he know the words, I bet he sings his heart out with dying lungs, and I bet he and everyone else has a tear in their eye.
What ever happened to us anyway…
katymine @ 50
Holy Guacamole!!!
good riddance, eh?
Praise the Lord and pass the oxycontin!
Waccamaw @ 51
Hmmm, particularly during “God Bless America,” they’re going to have crowd noises down and the sound of the singer up.
Now if it were just Fox News, I think you’d have a point…
The only station that seemed to carry Bush’s whole speech at 11:00am this morning was Fox and I missed it.
Is Bush still our President?
Elliott @ 54
thumbs up on that one!!
native new Yorkers like myself *know* guiliani is a scumbag. It’s something that it took a little bit for the everyone to learn. He is definitely not someone who grows on you.
Just recall his attempt to extend his mayoralty post 9/11 despite term limits. It brought everyone here right back to their 9/10 clear eyed view of the guy.
Rudy with Bush/Cheney powers would truly be frightening.
And yes, despite all the 9/11 rah rah, I think NYers disdain for Rudy may well play well elsewhere.
Were it not for 9-11, Rudy would be remembered as an ineffectual priss in New York.
The rest of the country wouldn’t remember him at all.
Come to think of it, New York still remembers him as an ineffectual priss, but the rest of the country needs some reminding of all his failures.
America the Beautiful would be fine, but at Yankee Stadium it’s always God Bless America, which I despise with a passion. The embodiment of American Exceptionalism.
Fenway Park: Sweet Caroline
Yankee Stadium: God Bless America
See the difference?
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I was a yankee fan a kid, but lost interest in spectator sports as an adult. Whenever I took a peak at sports it turned me right off. Huge salaries, outrageous infusion of capitalism and marketing into america’s favorite pastime – baseball.
The I began to think, why are teams private enterprises own by high net worth individuals… who get tons of freebees from the cities and regions where they are located. They SELL broadcast rights to media, and media now charges us to see them.
They get free stadiums, all sorts of perks.
I don’t like professional spectator team sports. The NFL is about as disgusting as it can get.
I went to a few games at Yankee Stadium around the turn of the millennium and it was worse than I had expected. UIt was exciting to be in the stadium, but I felt surrounded by bots who couldn’t think about what had been done to their sport. They were being milked of their money by creeps like Steinbrunner.
I won’t go anymore. I won’t watch sports on teevee. I won’t follow the big names. I hardly know any of them and what they are good at. I am proud of my ignorance about professional sports. I don’t even know the names of the teams.
The NBA is equally disgusting as is the NHL.
Professional sports is America is what you get with American capitalism. And it’s eletist.
Anything that Guiliani likes, has got to be corrupt.
Base ball.. going going gone.
OT:
Suprised that neither Jon S or Colbert picked up the “no pin” with the Sienfield “Why don’t you where the ribbon!” “Where is your ribbon!” AIDS ribbon bit.
drinksforall @ 10
send her a PawSox hat
It’s a marvelous conversation piece
Waccamaw @ 51
My boyfriend has worked in the TeeVee industry for over 30 years, currently working for ESPN doing Monday Night Football and NBA. He has worked for pretty much all of the networks and TeeVee productions. These guys are professionals and really usually are clueless to the political winds as they work 10 to 20 hr days to provide quality TeeVee.
Boyfriend was at the first NOLA game at the dome last year and the accusations of “faked sounds”. The audio guy was really insulted that anyone would imply that they would ruin their show. You can slam the guys who run the corporations but do not imply that those guys who really work hard to put quality sports productions on the air are in the wingnuts pockets.
For 12 years I have hung out out back of some stadium near the dumpsters to have some time with my guy watching these guys haul tons of cable, make sure that feeds are uplinked and that video and audio is prime quality. Never once have I heard ANYONE have an agenda when doing a sports production other than getting the show ON the air.
Go katymine
SanderO @ 61
I can understand your angst, but every evening I curl up and watch Jerry Remy and Don Orsillo
broadcast the Soxs. Honest, after listening to
Bush and his wretched minions, they gave me
pleasure, and have probably saved me years of
therapy…
Jane @ 9:00 -
Point well taken………..way too many examples of the cr*p faux noise has pulled with labeling wayward “r’s” as “D’s” and all their other egregious behavior roiling around in my head……held firmly in place by the many layers of tin foil surrounding same. *g*
SanderO at 61, Yeah me too, big time.
And (((((katymine))))) and (((((zennurse)))))
Those are hugs, right?
Katymine,
fine that they are professionals as well they should be. But how would they feel about broadcasting a right wing rally from a sports stadium?
We’re not quite there yet, but sports are one mechanism to distract the people from what’s going on… and extract some of their hard earned money.
We are a nation of non thinking, isolated idiots and we can thank our love of sports for some of that.
Do you deny this?
redx @ 52
Was it really “America the Beautiful”? If so, it’s an improvement on that goddamned, insipid “God Bless America” (a song sung by people who can’t remember the national anthem, such as Republican congressmen). It was another milepost on this country’s road to perdition when it replaced the beloved “Take Me Out to the Ballgame” after 9-11. And that Ronan Tinan is a disgrace to the Irish for singing it.
OT – Has anybody see this:
Dragonfly or Insect Spy? Scientists at Work on Robobugs.
Really creepy.
I used to love to listen to Red Barber and Mel Allen on my little transistor radio in bed as a kid.
We live in a different world.
It’s really a lot uglier and needs our attention.
When I need to escape… I go to ballet or opera or the arts.
Sports and fascism are too closely aligned.
((((( Jane Katymine Zennurse )))))
Please get some Louise Hay CDs … she offers some great techniques for regaining optimum health.
BigMitch is gonna have a conniption when he discovers that he missed the only ‘Baseball’ blog on FDL ! *g*
The dems should play the repukes in softball and settle it all.
JF @ 72
yeah, that really is too creepy.
and there are those of us who wonder why we’re paranoid?!
Petrocelli @ 74
For once I am not whining …. the final season was a life saver from the limited TeeVee lineup at the hospital…
SanderO @ 75
Nah, they’d only cheat.
katymine -
I bow to your first-hand experience with tv techs (as well as Jane’s explanation); I already knew you got a good one b/c you’ve described his loving care of you in time of need.
Very glad to hear of your good health news; {{{take care of yourself.}}}
SanderO @ 74
And give them yet another opportunity to work the Umpires.
SanderO @ 74
Or how about a spelling bee. When I read gooper comments I think I’m going dyslexic.
The nasties don’t play by the rules.
Winning is everything.
My typing is atrocious.
Sensible people try a reasoned approach, the right cares less. They only want their selfish needs met. Laws, rights don’t figure into their calculus.
The playing field of ideas is tilted way to the right.
We are slipping off at an increasing rate.
We may need to take a new tack.. or we will be SOL.
mack @ 59
and Shrub would have been a one term president
Nice pic Jane.
Next time you’re up for a game in NY, give me a shout – I’ll try and get you my box seats.
Helpless Dancer @ 80
The House Republicans regularly beat the Democrats in baseball.
Elliott @ 76
Easiest to assume they know everything about everybody, and just go ahead and do what you were going to do anyway. This works pretty well for travel to Russia as well.
Jane you look adorable in your ball cap.
egregious @ 86
good advice! else one would go mad
SanderO @ 75
The dems should play the repukes in softball and settle it all.
Coach Harry Reid only knows one sign:
Bunt.
hey alot of us are working class heroes who root for the yankees. my father passed the team on to me and he grew up in harlem during the depression and so all this talk about it being wall street’s team and all never made sense to me. on the other hand all the jesoids thanking the almighty and praising and so forth every time they score a touchdown, make a three pointer or pitch a shut out makes me want to puke.
the yankees are richer than the other teams but they are not the only member of the billionaires stable that swings bats.
BTW, Jane:
In your post, you might want to change America the Beautiful to God Bless America…*g*
Thanks for the hugs and your indulgence at my overly OT comment. My retina surgery is minimal compared to katy and jane and others with more serious causes. It is making life pretty limited as I have orders to be a couch potato for at leat 3 more weeks and no zennursing for the next 6. I can follow orders and lie around listening to Jane Austen on audible.com, cspan unless it makes me too anxious to sit still and am allowed to watch movies. I’m even considering calling the cable company, but am making that a daily exercise in personal procrastination and am trying to learn to knit without looking for a challenge. I have overstayed my reading allottment for today, but just needed to hear your voices and know you are there.
Katy, thanks for the update and good news.
Blessings to Jane and Christy (et al) for their devotion to truth, justice and the American Way as well as to all of us who cannot be without them for long.
See you guys tomorrow for my daily dose.
Keep up the good fight.
namaste
SanderO @ 75
Hockey or lacrosse would be better sports. Physical contact on hard surfaces permitted, with potential weapons!!!! For the love of sports and competition……
Further to me @ 91:
I see you’ve already done that. Thanks for the h/t!
SanderO @ 82
They throw dirt in the ump’s eyes and keep wanting to steal home!
I hate that.
dakine01 @ 46
And also that he is an interminable hero worshiper, and that he has always believed that the way to get ahead was drink a lot and brag. So now we know he’s quit drinking (or so he’s said many times) and he’s just now learning that there are other more effective ways to get ahead than bragging, so he’s kinda pitiful if you think about it. Also, he’s recently admitted that he was (and may still be) a Democrat. I didn’t know until recently that he had once run for office. (He lost) But he said at one point that his family is all republican except for himself. He worked for Carter and for Tip O’Neill, so I don’t think he can be all bad.
Oh, nice twinkle in the eye, Jane!
SanderO @ 75
I’d much prefer pistols at 30 paces!!
drinksforall @ 97
707!
What’s the weather like in the nosebleed seats?
Perhaps they were booing an obnoxious tradition that began at American ballparks in the early 1930s in an attempt by pols and their kingmakers to gin up a highly astute and appropriately recalcitrant populace for more war whilst (and at the same time) the government was very busily arming itself for same.
Almost forgot, this caught my (one) eye last night, pissing me right off. Returning troops lose out on education benefits because of returning one day early.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..-benefits/
You look great in the hat. The Yankees still stink.
Happy recovery, zennurse.
Knitting: use ginormous needles and big fun chunky yarn. It’s fast and easy. There are some online video tutorials too. ;)
take care o’ yerself!
zennurse @ 101
Saw that too. Typical Republic-Con Artist action going on. I’m so (*(&%&(&*&^ ticked off!!
Re: Tweety:
Last week as he was celebrating Hardball’s tenth anniversary, he had his wife Kathleen come in to help him masturbate on air. His wife played “host” while Tweety played “hardball.” His wife fed him softballs and even buttered up his toast.
It was quite something to watch. Tweety’s narcissism (and onanism) knows no bounds.
bluejeansntshirt @ 81
Yep – just ask them to spell “canard” – they don’t know that one.
since I was 4 years old and inspite of the fact that my lifelong hero has always been against them, I have been a yankee fan
and I have always supported steinbrenner, even when the media punished him daily, even when the fans hated him and what he did to the managers and the players…through everything I have been a supporter of steinbrenner
however
if steinbrenner even once says he endorses rudy, I will until the day he sells the team root against the yankees
I can handle a friendship with george and rudy, I can handle a bussiness relationship, I can even handle the free advertisement rudy gets, ESPECIALLY since that advertisement is counter productive, rudy getting booed by yankee fans and all
but I WILL NOT suffer a presidential endorsement
goerge can take THAT to the bank
Biodun @ 105
I guess he needs another dose of reality vis a vis Jon Stewart.
bluejeansntshirt @ 33
Could this be what you’re looking for?
Petrocelli @ 107
Would you be related to Rico? If so I worked in Coney Island with Anthony.
I think a lot of the Rudy visibility at sporting events is accommodation to Rudy’s ego, not necessarily a desire of management. Rudy’s putting the arm heavily on NY sport to boost his overinflated head. I think it bugs some of the athletes too. I read this somewhere and apologize for no linky or back up.
SanderO @ 61
That’s exactly it! I love playing all kinds of stuff but I won’t watch televised/national sports. It’s only about the money, and it shows.
Sorry! Didn’t read all the comments but am glad to know I wasn’t hallucinating about the VV article. :|
bluejeansntshirt @ 110
No, I didn’t even know who he is until BigMitch mentioned him a while back. “Petrocelli” was one of my fav shows from the 70’s.
I am a yoga/meditation teacher living in Toronto, who loves Cricket & Hockey.
Petrocelli @ 108
Yep. That was quite something to watch as well. That was a royal smackdown. Tweety at one point said: “This is the worst interview I’ve ever been in in my life.” And he wasn’t joking when he said that.
Biodun @ 115
Tweety’s true nature was exposed for all to see.
Lynne Cheney is on tonight !
zennurse @ 101
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army
Nothing has changed for the dutiful “American Soldier” and his or her family. They have to fight for everything, after the fight for country! Sad indeed………
OT, but interesting just the same. Over at Brad DeLong’s blog is a speech by FDR that reminds me that the Republicans have been at this crap since before the New Deal.
Petrocelli @ 113
I saw some cricket in Bermuda, but big time Islanders fan here. Anthony in Coney Island would be a good relative for anyone. Leafs fan I guess, huh?
Biodun @ 115
I was squirming when I watched that. As much as I like it when Jon Stewart challenges people, I don’t know if I would have appreciated an inperson book review quite like that one.
I read the book Deep Black, a number of years ago, it was a best seller, and contained this tidbit, in the 1950’s and/or 1960’s, AT&T would tape Every overseas telephone call, the NSA or CIA would pick them up at night and listen to them then return the tapes the next day. Maybe one of the things the Church Committee exposed.
bluejeansntshirt @ 119
Anthony sounds like a great guy … I’ll become a Leafs’ fan when they start playing Hockey.
Right now, they’re playing Hookey ! *g*
I like the Senators and Penguins.
Re: Tweety II:
Here’s Tweety on YouTube calling Giuliani a liar. (and an appreciation of my old pal Anne Kornblut) The Kornblut bit is for Christy…*g*
The most amazing thing I’ve seen lately – on a major street in a Detroit suburb, sitting in front of a tiny house that desperately needs repair – a Guiliani 2008 sign.
(OT – Chrysler is on strike)
James Joyce @ 117
The GI Bill ( Servicemen’s Readjustment Act of 1944) was put in place to avoid what happened with Bonus Army on Anacostia Flats.
do-si-do @ 120
I have been studying/teaching yoga & meditation for more than 21 years and what Jon Stewart said to Tweety is exactly what I would have said to him and many other motivational speakers/authors. Success is not only measured by how many toys you accumulate.
This culture of corruption is spread by greed and many motivational speakers/authors have to bear responsibility for this.
Katymine – this is great news!
Zennurse – Sending all things positive (prayers, thoughts, and energy) your way. I’d wondered where you went…
zennurse @ 9
Hey Zen, how’s your eye’s? Did you get a screen reader?
OT..More Christian Values:
From Jaralyn:
GAO Report on Teen Abuse at Boot Camps
(snip)
link
Update: Olbermann:
____________
Yes, one can argue that it’s apparent, when dealing in good faith and in context, that Rudy is meant and not the tenor Ronan Tynan.
But this really isn’t fair to Mr. Tynan, b/c wingnuts deal neither in good faith or in context, so I suggest an edit for clarity.
Steve-AR @ 129
He’s probably lucky that’s where they tied it!
OOOO, MSNBC is choppin in high cotton, they are two fires at once on!
Petrocelli @ 126
Agreed!
For whatever reason, I identified for the moment with tweety (I’ll take something for that) and felt if I was an author it would be hard to take in what Stewart was saying. It was like a public intervention. just sayin’ it was uncomfortable, not that tweety didn’t deserve it or that I agree with tweety’s premise AT ALL.
BTW what I love about FDR was that early in his education he had teachers and mentors who drove it into his head (and his silver spoon peers) that they have a christian duty to help others in need. It’s their social responsibility. How lucky the country was to have such a person in office during one of the most turbulent times in our history.
Quite the opposite of greedmongers.
Seems I recall that Richard Nixon and George Steinbrenner got along famously.
I love baseball. And my view is that the Yankees are the all around greatest ball club ever. But I detest George Steinbrenner.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 134
IIRC, Nixon was the reason Billy Martin could truthfully say that Steinbrenner was a convicted liar.
The Sox should invite Rudy to the Cleveland game on Friday, then we can boo him again…
Theo is a liberal dem, I’m thinking…
http://www.theyesmen.org/
suggested edit for clarity @ 130
Agree. But you can’t really edit the MSNBC transcript. You need an MSNBC admin password to do that.
Bay State Librul @ 137
Why don’t you hold up cardboard cutouts of Rudy and let the people have their say ?!! *g*
Petrocelli @ 140
man, imagine if the yankees faced the sox, rudy would get booed in both stadiums
I bet he wouldn’t even go to the sox game for fear of the hate they would shower this man with at every chance they got
Petrocelli @ 139
Good idea. Btw, Romney was at the Angels
game last week, and not a beep or a boo
Actually, Romney’s “consult the lawyers”
answer to a war on Iran made sense to me, at lest the rule of law would be given a chance…
but I prefer they consult “Thou shall not
Kill” first….
Dee @ 124
Maybe we can get a bunch of these and put them on Port-A-Potty’s?
We’re America.
We torture.
Routinely.
Systematically.
Pervasively.
With your state tax dollars.
In uniform – on duty.
In your state’s official facilities – or the adjacent state’s.
Welcome to Liberty’s Gulags.
Steve-AR @ 129
well, that was interesting. Helen Thomas just asked Dana Perino whether the prez views the Lieberman-Kyle resolution as an invitation to attack Iran.
Dana – I’m not familiar with that resolution – I’ll get back to you.
Helen even gave her a little clue – “the one naming The Iranian Guards terrorists?”
Still never heard of it.
Oh, they’re still playing baseball?
I thought that stopped with the beginning of football season and basketball starting at the end of this month.
I was just a kid growing up near Cincinnati when the Reds won back-to-back World Series. That was kind of fun, though I was really too young to appreciate it.
I haven’t really followed baseball since then. But if I did, I would HATE the Yankees — however, I officially love Yankee fans for booing Ghouliani.
Bay State Librul @ 142
Do people in the City of Angels even know who he is ?
They probably mistook him for a Televangelist.
Toby Wollin @106:
Actually, “canard” is a favorite of neocons.
perris @ 141
Well, I’m wondering if Mitch has started reconsidering whether it’s safe for HIM to show up to the games?
jayt @ 145
As I’ve said before: She sure is pretty…
check this out from think progress, we have to act fast and give the democrats amo
the democrats have to respond IMMEDIATLEY, they need to be LIVID and comeback with something like THIS;
“the president has alot of nerve asking us to grant immunity to companies that facilitated the lawless behavior of officials that used fear to steal intelectual property”
man what I would pay to see a politician respond with something like that
WASHINGTON – President Bush strongly urged Congress on Wednesday to reject legislation that would declare the World War I-era killings of hundreds of thousands of Armenians a genocide, saying it would do “great harm” to relations with Turkey, a key ally in the Iraq war.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates issued a joint appeal at the White House just hours before the House Foreign Affairs Committee was to vote on the measure opposed by Bush — and which Turkey insists could severely damage U.S. relations with a NATO ally that has been a major portal for U.S. military operations in the region.
“The passage of this resolution at this time would be very problematic for everything we are trying to do in the Middle East,” Rice said.
perris @ 151
Someone’s paying a lot more for them to say the opposite.
Biodun @ 149
A walking, talking bright shiny object.
Biodun @ 150
Dana did a Freddie!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 152
Whitewashing Turkey’s past would be less objectionable if we hadn’t already destroyed our relationship with them.
AP – Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Wednesday laid out his most specific demands for the borders of a future independent state, calling for a full Israeli withdrawal from all territories captured in the 1967 Mideast war.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 157
Doesn’t sound like there’s going to be PEACE any time soon.
Ain’t all this depressing?
Turkey is a pretty close to being a fascist state.. ain’t it?
Didn’t they slaughter the Armenians? Didn’t they? Wouldn’t they do it to the Kurds if no one watching? Wouldn’t they?
Remember scotty? I can’t watch Dana, nor Katie. I just can’t.
This is Potemkin on steroids.
Oh and by the way, the Red Sox aren’t playing the Yankees any longer everyone. Another team actually beat the Yankees. They’re called the Cleveland Indians. Believe it or not, there are in fact other teams and, gasp, other cities in America besides Boston and NYC.
We’ve even got phones and teevees, the intertubes and everything here in the hinterlands.
Wear a Tribe hat next time Jane.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 152
WASHINGTON – President Bush strongly urged Congress on Wednesday to reject legislation that would declare the World War I-era killings of hundreds of thousands of Armenians a genocide, saying it would do “great harm” to relations with Turkey, a key ally in the Iraq war.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates issued a joint appeal at the White House just hours before the House Foreign Affairs Committee was to vote on the measure opposed by Bush — and which Turkey insists could severely damage U.S. relations with a NATO ally that has been a major portal for U.S. military operations in the region.
“The passage of this resolution at this time would be very problematic for everything we are trying to do in the Middle East,” Rice said.
This is one of the things Sibel Edmonds has been silenced about – the Turkish lobby’s influence in the U.S. – Perle, Feith, and suitcases on cash to Denny Hastert.
Philadelphia – At a Wharton Business School conference on business in Africa, World Trade Organization representative Hanniford Schmidt announced the creation of a WTO initiative for “full private stewardry of labor” for the parts of Africa that have been hardest hit by the 500 years of Africa’s free trade with the West.
The initiative will require Western companies doing business in some parts of Africa to own their workers outright. Schmidt recounted how private stewardship has been successfully applied to transport, power, water, traditional knowledge, and even the human genome. The WTO’s “full private stewardry” program will extend these successes to (re)privatize humans themselves.
“Full, untrammelled stewardry is the best available solution to African poverty, and the inevitable result of free-market theory,” Schmidt told more than 150 attendees. Schmidt acknowledged that the stewardry program was similar in many ways to slavery, but explained that just as “compassionate conservatism” has polished the rough edges on labor relations in industrialized countries, full stewardry, or “compassionate slavery,” could be a similar boon to developing ones.
The audience included Prof. Charles Soludo (Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria), Dr. Laurie Ann Agama (Director for African Affairs at the Office of the US Trade Representative), and other notables. Agama prefaced her remarks by thanking Scmidt for his macroscopic perspective, saying that the USTR view adds details to the WTO’s general approach. Nigerian Central Bank Governor Soludo also acknowledged the WTO proposal, though he did not seem to appreciate it as much as did Agama.
A system in which corporations own workers is the only free-market solution to African poverty, Schmidt said. “Today, in African factories, the only concern a company has for the worker is for his or her productive hours, and within his or her productive years,” he said. “As soon as AIDS or pregnancy hits—out the door. Get sick, get fired. If you extend the employer’s obligation to a 24/7, lifelong concern, you have an entirely different situation: get sick, get care. With each life valuable from start to finish, the AIDS scourge will be quickly contained via accords with drug manufacturers as a profitable investment in human stewardees. And educating a child for later might make more sense than working it to the bone right now.”
To prove that human stewardry can work, Schmidt cited a proposal by a free-market think tank to save whales by selling them. “Those who don’t like whaling can purchase rights to specific whales or groups of whales in order to stop those particular whales from getting whaled as much,” he explained. Similarly, the market in Third-World humans will “empower” caring First Worlders to help them, Schmidt said.
One conference attendee asked what incentive employers had to remain as stewards once their employees are too old to work or reproduce. Schmidt responded that a large new biotech market would answer that worry. He then reminded the audience that this was the only possible solution under free-market theory.
There were no other questions from the audience that took issue with Schmidt’s proposal.
During his talk, Schmidt outlined the three phases of Africa’s 500-year history of free trade with the West: slavery, colonialism, and post-colonial markets. Each time, he noted, the trade has brought tremendous wealth to the West but catastrophe to Africa, with poverty steadily deepening and ever more millions of dead. “So far there’s a pattern: Good for business, bad for people. Good for business, bad for people. Good for business, bad for people. That’s why we’re so happy to announce this fourth phase for business between Africa and the West: good for business—GOOD for people.”
The conference took place on Saturday, November 11. The panel on which Schmidt spoke was entitled “Trade in Africa: Enhancing Relationships to Improve Net Worth.” Some of the other panels in the conference were entitled “Re-Branding Africa” and “Growing Africa’s Appetite.” Throughout the comments by Schmidt and his three co-panelists, which lasted 75 minutes, Schmidt’s stewardee, Thomas Bongani-Nkemdilim, remained standing at respectful attention off to the side.
“This is what free trade’s all about,” said Schmidt. “It’s about the freedom to buy and sell anything—even people.”
Christy has a shiny almost-new thread upstairs.
New Christy. Rep Nadler steps up.
James Joyce @ 117
While at wikipedia checking out Maj. Gen. Smedley Butlers and his role with the Bonus Vets, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler,
“The Business Plot,” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot.
“General Butler claimed that the American Liberty League was the primary means of funding the plot. The main backers were the Du Pont family, as well as leaders of U.S. Steel, General Motors, Standard Oil, Chase National Bank, and Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company. A BBC documentary claims Prescott Bush, father and grandfather to the 41st and 43rd US Presidents respectively, was also connected.[3].”
“Final Resolution”
“Even though the Senate committee did take the threat seriously and did verify that a fascist coup was indeed well past the planning stage, the Senate committee expired.”
Just seems a little uncanny the alledged players involved in the attemped overthrow of FDR, back then, and todays issues driven by the policies of the current president, ovp and corporate backers
Oklahoma kiddo @ 152
Not like this is anything new or anything, huh, George?
Cleveland Bob @ 160
Good luck to the Tribe…
The last time you guys won the World Serious
was in 1948 against the Boston Braves…
Why did you ever get rid of Manny?
Just prisoners.
Why bother?
Hi Jane…
Guess all those photo-ops of Rudy walking through the rubble on and after 9/11 didn’t pay off so well after all.
Who will get the republican nomination?
Imagine Rudi cos it might happen. How can such a jerk get to be the nominee of any serious party?
It boggles the mind.
Bay State Librul @ 167
Manny is a bit of headcase and tres expensive. Speaking of expensive, does everyone know that Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez’ salaries are equal to or more than the sum total of the entire Indians player payroll? Just sayin’.
Proof yet again that Steinbrenner can’t buy a team.
nooooooooooooooo
They were screaming, “RUUUUUUUUUUUU-DY”
I just want to gobble you up..you look so CUTE in that Yankees hat. Thanks for being at that game to authenticate Keith’s observations of the booing…later dissed by Tweety as being just a New York thing.
First things first – Go Dodgers!
As enjoyable as it is to see Rudy get booed in NY – I would love to see Bush get booed at any opening day first pitch which I think is a foregone conclusion. Bushy who supposedly loves baseball is afraid to show his face at any games.
And again Go Dodgers!
Rudy is a hack politician and corporate shill, which is why he’ll get the GOP nomination. Just as assuredly, Hillary will win a decisive victory over him and his incompetent, corrupt party. Although it probably won’t be a landslide, it will be a large enough margin that the election won’t be stolen as happened in 2000 and 2004. On that note, when will Karl Rove, Jeb Bush, George Shultz, Katherine Harris, Ken Blackwell and Diebold executives finally be investigated and indicted for violating the will of the people? Furthermore, when will the average American stand up and ensure that those that do our bidding in public service are at least half as hard working, noble and decent as we are?
Jane–
Red Sox Nation is envious that you got to go in person to watch the Yankees get eliminated :)
As a New Yorker both during and after Ghouliani’s tenure as Mayor, I can say, without any pretense that on Sept. 10, 2001 New Yorkers were done with Rudy and were just waiting for his term to be over so that he would just leave. No hero. Just a lousy man with crooked dealings.
Hi Jane,
but the problem was, that the TV American public did not hear the booing… ‘ts almost as if, what happens in NY, stays in NY. Rudy seems as popular as ever in the polls.
jayt @ 145
Can you say: “Dana Perino – Out of the loop.” ?
“To those with the tin foil hat syndrome… the reason that the boo’s did not make it on the air is because the crowd mike either was NOT on or not in the area that of the stadium. TeeVee crews really DO NOT have a political agenda, they are just doing their job AND they try to be as apolitical as possible.”
Boy what planet is it that you live on? I think it is you with the foil hat.
I Love the Yankees- I love The Mets- I love Joe Torre- Willie Randolph went to my high school (Samuel J Tilden in Brooklyn NY-same HS as Al Sharpton-I have no problem with Al) -after Seeing ESPN’s “The Bronx is Burning” I even warmed up to Steinbrenner. But Rudy Guiliani–I am Italian American 4th generation-and I cring when people use the word “fascist” 99% of the time inappropriately- but Rudy G is a FASCIST!! I believe he is THE FASCIST of my generation!- The Yankee fans touched my heart when they booed Rudy- Two points: 1) My father worked at the World Trade Center for the Port Authority of NY/NJ-29 years- retired before 9/11- my father and many others SCREAMED for years about getting the emergency response teams OUT of the WTC- but it was Rudy who INSISTED on leaving them in the twin towers- why? -many people have the real answers. – 2) Mayor Rudy would sytematically order the arrest, haraassment and round up homeless people-mostly young -in NYC- targeting them at will; Mayor Rudy would also round up and taregt5 marijuana smokers. Rudy had a “weed Team” that would roam the streets of NYC in unmarked vans- make marijuana buys- and anyone seen smoking a joint or if the police smelled marijuana-they would hunt the marijuana user down like dogs. What a guy- Hey GOP- bring it on- nominate Rudy- let the games begin!! -
capassounion2@aol.com
Sorry about our Yanks, Jane. Glad you were there to help boo Rudy.
As a NASCAR fan of many years, I was ready to abandon the sport entirely the year of the 2004 election for this very reason. Many of the announcers, owners, drivers and their sponsors were openly campaigning and every race became more of a Republican pep rally.
I finally wrote letters to all of them and suggested they back off. They have, a little bit, but it’s a fine line.
At the 2004 race at Texas Motor Speedway, they had Bush give the opening command via a televised broadcast from the White House. I stood up and booed as loud as I could.
Boy, was I ever a lonely voice among 180,000 stunned fans.
It was my proudest moment!
Rudy AND teh Yankees suck!
On this New Yorkers (Mets fans and Yankee fans) can agree …
Ru-dee SUCKS!!!
Ru-dee SUCKS!!!
Ru-dee SUCKS!!!
Ru-dee SUCKS!!!
Lets go METS.
One of my proudest moments as a Mets fan than in 2000, when the news showed fans booing and jeering Giuliani as he made his way into a Mets NL playoff game. He’s a fraud.
Nobody has mentioned the fact the Yankees has given Giuliani not one, not two, not three, but FOUR World Series rings, all won in his tenure. He wears them around like he is an actual member of those Yankees teams (all hat and no cattle, just like any good Republican).
I don’t know how much those rings are, but they could easily be worth six figures each, and Giuliani’s explanations that he paid for all of them are… unconvincing.
So the “lake” in my favorite blog is short for Lakers (as Jane has explained in the past) and now she appears in a Yankees hat! What a revoltin’ development. What’s a Bostonian to do?
Truth be told, the Red Sox have gotten a little bit ridiculous with their “Nation” and the embarassing NESN dating games and poker tournaments (Bos V. NY…ugh!), not to mention the fair weather bandwagon jumpers. I think Boston could and would support a 2nd MLB franchise. This is a baseball crazy area. I still love my Sox, but isn’t it time for the Cubs to hold up the trophy?
funny that he is considered ultra right wing nutcase. where i live he is considered a bleeding heart liberal,neo-hippy type commie fag.
I was in the LF bleachers. When I saw Rudy on-screen my instinctive reaction — to express my disgust, both at Rudy and at the Yankees for trying to manipulate my presence at a baseball game into a political endorsement — was to BOO. So maybe I didn’t hear clearly. But the next thing I heard was a lot of cheering. I’m sorry to say it, but that’s what I heard. I almost expected the crowd to stop singing God Bless America and start singing Tomorrow Belongs To Me.
eric, what are you considered where you live?
nomolos @ 2
We’re not all so bad
a moderate.
Hey Jane,
Indian fans hate Rudy too. We love Jane, even though she is a Yankee fan!
GO TRIBE!!!
Peace!
PJ
I have new respect for N.Y. Yankees fans.
For years, George Steinbrenner and right wing nutcases running the New York Yankees have subtly and overtly attempted to turn a nonpolitical sporting event such as watching a baseball game at Yankees stadium into a 1930s style German propaganda event . . .
Thing is, I would hate the Yankees anyway, coming as a do from a long line of Red Sox and old Washington Senators fans. But this makes me feel GOOD about hating them.
“Was sung”, boys and girls; proper grammar is very patriotic.
Texans hated Bush and you can see how that effected him. Voters are just plain stupid.
They’re all a bunch of republican butt kissers. Back when Bush threw out the first pitch at a Cardinal opening game in 2004 the owners drowned out the boo’s with cheers over the p.a. system. I was listening on the radio at the time just for the reaction of the local crowd and thought that the reaction sounded weird. Later on I learned from someone that works down at the stadium that yes, indeed, the Cardinals owners had piped in cheers to drown out the boo’s…why they keep calling the Dems nazis is beyond me.
Since 9/11 made Rudy an expert on terrorism, am I an expert on fire prevention now that someone burned down my barn? Can I now give speeches on barn fires and make millions? Let me know soon ’cause I am broke.
I heard that Rudy was responsible for getting the remains of the WTC, mainly the steel beams, out of the country to a Chinese recycling outfit so they couldn’t be checked to see if they were involved in an explosion. So nobody really knows what brought down the WTC. Is this true?
go indians!
If you actually think Rudy is far right, you obviously don’t pay close attention to his views. Of course, you might think of Hillary or Kerry as a moderate (which would explain it.)
Granted, there’s no doubt which side of the line he falls on, but let’s not be overly dramatic in the name of hyping up an article.
“Right wing extremist Rudy Giuliani”?!?
Rudy is about the most moderate (borderline liberal really) republicans out there. Where do you get your information? Keith “All I do is hate because I can’t debate” Olbermann?
It’s just baseball for chrissake.
acetone @ 203
I’m sure that Abner Louima, Amadou Diallo, and Patrick Dorismond would be interested in hearing how “moderate” Rudy. If they were alive to hear it that is.
Although to be honest, Mr Louima is still alive, I don’t imagine he would be persuaded that Rudy and his minions are at all “moderate.”
VIDEO! Gimme a video (I must have it).
I too was there and did he ever get a booing from our section. (for all you Yankee stadium goers out there, lower upper deck right below the regular Non-Acholic section on the first base side, if you spill your beer we will scream mercilessly at you for spilling about a dollars worth of beer that we could have drunken). That was the fun part of the night.
I was at the game the day before and he was there also- there were a few boos but I have to say as much as it pains me that he got a HUGE cheer.
this has actually kind of been bugging me:
When the fuck did it become necessary to know and sing “God Bless America?” I don’t remember it ever playing at baseball games when I was a kid. or at any public venue, really. the only time it came up was in things like grade-school chorus recitals.
Is this some reactionary “take god out of the pledge, eh? we’ll make you say it at ball games! NYAAAH!” or still some bullshit 9/11 nonsense.
No one sings America the Beautiful, or This Land is Your Land.
fucking tossers.
The “God Bless America” thing was reinforced after 9/11. I was at the first Yankee game after the attack when Liza Minelli sang it. It’s become standard since then. I’ve lived in NY my whole life. We endured Guiliani when he was the US Attorney for the Southern District and then two terms as mayor. Every New Yorker I know HATES him. When will the rest of the country see him for what he is — a BULLY!
The recent bedfellow… (AEI) should really scare the hell out of people. Rudy and Thompson are taking plays right out of the Bush playbook. Play lazy, play stupid… when the spotlight is on you next year say something that makes sense and people will listen. Bush has set the bar so low.
This posting is a complete distortion. Let me say first that I am no Rudy fan, not by a long shot. However, I was at the game and did note with surprise that Rudy was booed, but it was by no means “lustily”, or even significant. At best, I could characterize it as a few boos mixed in with many more “Rooooody”s, which happen to sound like booos. It’s the same dynamic as Mike Mussina whom the fans serenade with cheers of “Moooooose”, which often sounds like boos. Same thing occurs at a Springsteen concert – the fans cheer “Bruuuuuuuce”, which also sounds like booos. Rudy has long been a fixture at Yankee stadium and has always been greeted warmly by the crowd, even pre 9/11 when his popularity was at best mixed. Why would he suddenly be the recipient of boos now? As for his position in the Mayors box some part of Yankee right wing propaganda, come on! Michael Bloomberg sits there often times when Rudy doesn’t and he is hardly a friend of the right. I’ve been a season ticket holder for decades and while I don’t recall David Dinkins at the games, Ed Koch sat in the box in the mid 80’s. It’s a mayoral box and a sign of respect for the city’s chief executive. Lets set the record straight. There were a few boos when Rudy’s face was shown on the scoreboard – a few. There were many more Ruuuuuudys and the majority was basically apathetic, choosing instead to watch cotton eye Joey.
Remowill @ 200
I know what brought the towers down – a bunch of Saudis flying a pair of hijacked jumbo jets into the towers. I didn’t realize that information was still classified.
Well, we know the truth, don’t we?
They may hate Rudy’s lying, incompetent
guts in The Big Apple,
but, hey, down in Alabama,
Georgia, NC,Te-has, Mississippi, and
out West in places like Iowa, Kansas, Utah and Oklahoma,
when they hear Rudy’s
NEW-YAWK accent, they
will fall in love with him,
as they always do with those “Nerthern Yanks”.
Rudy will sweep The Old South and
Midwest with his Manhattan-esque
sex-appeal and charm.
And all those extra-marital ex-girlfriends
& all the hot, sweaty, juicy stuff
embedded there?
A “family values” winner, without a doubt.
The South and Midwest belong to Rudy-Baby!!
Yeah, for sure.
Stay the hell out of Colorado Rudy, you lisping power hungry fear monger. Colorado will be a blue state in ‘08. GO ROCKIES!
Rudy Giuliani is a, “right wing extremist?”
Holy crap.
Same planet; different worlds.
(number 17)
“Here in NYC we fondly remember when he was running around the city trying to close down art exhibits he didn’t like. Boo indeed”
And yet. to be realistic, I don’t really think most of the booing came from afficionadoes of “Piss Christ” or “Our Lady of the Elephant Dung.” Rudy has a much wider lack of appeal.
Ammerican obsession with 911 is, well, a little strange. To be obsessed by the frikin mayor of the time goes beyond me. WHO CARES !
A few years back, Steinbrenner did the same for Darth Chaney, and he was booed then. These guys are a little slow on the uptake.
I was at the game Sunday night and found the exact opposite situation. I thought he was cheered for dramatically and I felt like the only silent person.
TV crews at Yankee stadium DO have an agenda. They linger lovingly on Rudi and his skank wife all the time.
We New Yorkers can’t stand the man. Too many of us know someone who died in the Towers due to his hubris.
So…He supports gay marriage, abortion rights, and subsidized health care and suddenly you label him a right wing extremist. He is not Bush, or Reagan or Nixon for that matter. He’s the closest the republicans have to a Libertarian. The fact that you can label him as reactionary is indeed “telling”. It tells me you know nothing of politics.
P.S. Go Sox.