The gauntlet is down dept: Ezra Klein has invited La MalKKKin to debate health care in any forum of her choosing (aside from, obviously, Hot Air TV). She will, of course, decline because:
a) She is a coward.
b) She is a know-nothing blowhard who is long on fauxtrage but desperately short on facts.
c) She knows that Britney freaking Spears could wipe the floor with her in a substantive discussion of health care, let alone an erudite policy wonk like Ezra.
I would love to see it, but it will never happen. You could even make a drinking game out of her melodramatic eye-rolling, hair-flipping, and high-handed attempts to portray herself as the victim of a liberal smear.
We don’t call the act of launching a vicious all-out land war against someone and them leaping on to a table squealing, “Eek! Eek! I’m the victim here!” a Reverse Malkin for nothing.
Digby, Maha, and Neiwert have been on fire through the whole of l’Affaire Frost. What Digby considers an almost perfunctory “Update” is a rhetorical thunderclap that most bloggers could dine out on for a week:
Update II: Also be sure to read this by John Cole and this by Joe Gandelman, neither of whom are bleeding heart liberals. But they both have beating hearts, which seems to be something these right wingers are missing.
Cole runs down some of the appalling self-righteousness that’s pouring out of the right today and says:
I simply can not believe this is what the Republican party has become. I just can’t. It just makes me sick to think all those years of supporting this party, and this is what it has become. Even if you don’t like the S-Chip expansion, it is hard to deny what Republicans are- a bunch of bitter, nasty, petty, snarling, sneering, vicious thugs, peering through people’s windows so they can make fun of their misfortune.
And I’m sure many of them call themselves Christians too.
I do hope that Howard Kurtz is being apprised of his favorite blogger’s (”charming one moment and pugnacious the next”) activities these past couple of days. I’m sure he’d hate to be left out of the loop on all the great work she’s doing for America: kurtzh@washpost.com
Sadly, No! are doing yeoman’s work on all this mess.
And then there’s this.
In totally unrelated (or not) news, I have a proposition for a t-shirt design. It would read:
One Alabama Baptist minister.
One dildo wrapped in a latex condom.
Two wet suits, a face mask, diving gloves and slippers, rubberized underwear, and a head mask.
What could possibly go wrong?
It’s the second wet-suit that demonstrates the seriousness of this guy’s commitment, here. You kind of have to hand it to him.
In good Alabama news, they’ve elected their first ever openly gay man to office. See? Not everyone down here south of Washington, DC has an IQ that qualifies them for federal disability. The south is a lot more progressive than people realize. You don’t have the kind of grinding, bitter poverty that we have here without churning out some liberal voters.
And, well, that’s what I’ve got.
Thanks for letting me share.
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wheeee
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hey
Very nice T.
All Malkkkin, all the time. Attaaaaaccckkk!
uh, thanks, trex (laughing)
glad you made it home safely
Did anyone tell downstairs?
Yep. 2 of us.
Yes, I did.
Lordy… gas pains are a well… a pain…
Wow – what an exciting evening!
katymine @ 10
Oh, hon. Come here.
*hug, hug*
OxyContin is a powerful opiate, so it has likely wreaked havoc on your digestive system. Fiber, baby. It is your friend.
katymine!
Besides the gas, how you?
Katymine, don’t push yourself too fast.
‘Ooohhhhh, T-Wex, OOOHHHHHH!’ (rolls eyes) (stamps foot) (flips hair)
;>)
The two wet-suits got me too. How does one do that? And why two? What’s the purpose?
The guy was obviously once a boy scout. “Be prepared.”
darkblack @ 15
Excellent.
off topic —-
Katymine, I take it these are post-anesthetic pains and not post bean burrito pains?
ADM @ 16
Perhaps the other one belonged to a friend?
LoudounLib @ 17
And she didn’t even make the Hit Parade, LL.
;>)
Blacks’ retirement security at risk (AP)
from Yahoo! News
John Roper listens during a class at the Ariel Community Academy in Chicago, Tuesday, Oct. 9, 2007. The school, sponsored by an African-American mutual fund company, gives kids real money to invest as a class that they collect when they graduate. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)AP – Employers have begun to discover troubling racial differences within their 401(k) retirement plans, a gap they say could leave today’s black workers far less financially prepared for retirement than whites.
ADM @ 16
Not this time :)
Darkblack,
I have a photo that I think you can use.
darkblack @ 21
That’s excellent-er! ;-)
Lets see…..
Breakfast- Greek yogurt with honey & granola
Snack – fresh fruit, orange, plums & banana
Lunch – roast beef & swiss sandwich with lettuce on whole grain bread
Dinner – left over roast beef, potatoes, carots, whole grain bread AND organic cranberry juice
snack – oatmeal cookies
Is that enough fiber?
Pain is better, still haven’t gotten my gut back to normal. Incision looking OK and seeing the surgeon tomorrow and getting my staples out [yea]
Walked the block twice today …. lordy am I de-conditioned for someone who walked 2-8 miles/day
TexBetsy @ 20
Right. And the conclusion of AUTO-erotic? From the report I read of the condition of the body there’s simply no way he could have done this himself. But then again, he may have been highly motivated.
katymine @ 26
You’re doing great! We are all proud of you and your effort and your attitude.
International travel is fun, but the jet lag is kicking my a**…good night all!
darkblack @ 15
What’s that smell?
Sleep well LL.
ADM @ 27
“I’ve got you under my skin”…
Scuba-dooby-doo
Scuba Libby
Nite LL….
it was the jet lag on the return trip, it seemed to be ok going over or was it the excitement of the vacation that masked it?
Honey, your body has been through a rather traumatic experience. It’s spending huge amounts of energy healing itself back up. That’s why they tell you to REST.
Take it easy. We don’t want you to overdo it.
punaise @ 32
LOL, love it.
katy, does staples out mean you get to shower again? i know i always looked forward to getting that all clear (as did those who were around me at the time)
bleh. this happened two blocks from my office today:
(10-10) 21:29 PDT Berkeley — Berkeley police were questioning a mother today about the mysterious death of her 9-year-old son, a police spokeswoman said.
katymine @ 34
It’s definitely the return trip that’s been taxing for me. When I got to England last week I only required about a 2 hour nap and I was good to go.
smapdi @ 24
A photo? Mmm, I like photos.
TRex @ 30
A thousand fetid fever swamps all draining at once…One of Micki’s special smells.
;>)
katymine @ 26
It took me a month to get my full energy back after a much less dramatic procedure that was still surgery katymine. You have to take it easy to get that back and to let your body heal itself. I knew it was big when i was told ‘light duty’ for a month after i went back to work after 10 days.
Rest, let yourself heal before trying to jump into the big stuff again. It’ll be worth it when everything starts to click after the major ity of the healing is done!
just a quick drive by before work:
if anybody hasn’t read Jane’s
“Battle For The Heart Of The Democratic Party” downstairs, please do. Mark H’s comment near the end of it is ’specially good, too.
We’re in the long march now. God bless y’all!
Over and out for realz…good night.
Suzanne @ 23
Hang around long enough and we’ll go through all the fetishes. We’ve had the diapers and now the rubber fetish with a side serve of auto-erotic
asphasfstrangling. What’s next?persiflage @ 44
i don’t know but i know i’m double gloving because they are just getting worse and worse and worse
My dinner is cooking. Time to head out.
You kids stay out of trouble.
See you tomorrow.
Interesting editorial in Thursday’s NYT about the Supremes denying cert in the el-Masri case.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10…..u1.html?hp
The seminal case that established the state secrets doctrine is the 1953 Supreme Court opinion in Reynolds. We now know, because the key documents were declassified a few years ago and FOIA’ed by the daughter of one of the victims of the plane crash that was at issue, that the Gubmint and its lawyers lied to the trial court, the Fifth Circuit, and the Supreme Court about the content of the documents they sought to withhold from discovery.
Simply put, the decision was procured by means of a classic “fraud on the court.”
I wonder if there is any way for someone to file a motion for reconsideration in Reynolds, and make this whole pernicious line of cases go away.
enjoy dinner and sleep well, TRex
Night T.
Suzanne @ 23
You can never be too prepared when diving. I got my first certification for SCUBA in 1962, which is getting to be a helluva long time ago. I’ve dove commercially and recreationally from Costa Rica to Barrow, Alaska. In wetsuit diving environments, divers sometimes put on a poly vest underneath the main suit for more warmth. In colder water, divers go to better gear, mostly drysuits. This is the first use of two suits I’ve read about. The rubber underwear would be unnecessary for practical use of the equipment this “diver” was using.
I only dive on vacation in very warm water these days, but I can guarentee that there are some wacky diver blogs out there taking this experience to the hilt.
The moral of this story – When you have to start putting new, lower side panels on airport restrooms, some GOP stalwarts will try to go below your new barriers.
My boyfriend… who comments under the name of Elmore…. has tasked himself with the job to keep me in line….. And I have to say that I have pretty much done that…..
Showered since dressing was removed…. staples snag clothing…. AND look ugly….. my tummy with the funny question mark incision ….
But you have to promise not to tattle to Elmore…. my orders…. no driving, lifting or anything strenuous….for 2 weeks! Hey TRex… he will be doing the Atlanta MNF game this weekend.
Trex
“We don’t call the act of launching a vicious all-out land war against someone and them leaping on to a table squealing, “Eek! Eek! I’m the victim here!” a Reverse Malkin for nothing.”
wow!
Mark Morford:
katymine @ 51
lips sealed katymine
DB, YGM, enjoy.
Suzanne @ 54
mine are stapled :~)
Just don’t staple those fingers Punaise.
ET, you were actually uh diving and not looking at your wet suit as a ah um self pleasure-mobile.
Stick with bandages, Katymine. Stsay away from wetsuits. Apparently, they can cut off too much circulation. *g* Glad you’re doing OK!
update from last night:
Texas fights at Supreme Court in death row case
from HoustonChronicle
http://feeds.chron.com/~r/hous…..04648.html
The state conceded that police violated the Vienna Convention in denying Jose Medellin the chance to contact the Mexican Consulate for legal help.
Je suis toast.
Bonne nuit a tous.
Bon nuit Burns.
g’nite burnsy
Suzanne @ 58
Labor day weekend of 1969, in our US Navy SEAL wetsuits, my ex and I went diving for hours at Deer Harbor on Orcas Island. We rubbed up against each other in the kelp beds. We hovered face mask to face mask amidst the octopi. We petted as salmon watched. We got aroused. We had the great good sense to get out of those dang things before we took it to the next level.
anybody have anything cheery to talk about?
Trex, you are one smart therapod! And you’re on fire tonight!
TJ @ 65
Baseball playoffs resume tomorrow. :)
I’ll be blasphemous and admit to not following the playoffs at all.
Lynne Cheney coming up on TDS.
kalinihta Burns…
Ed*ard Teller @ 64
just couldn’t, like, kelp yourselves?
TJ @ 68
I don’t either since my local teams are not contenders (again). I’ve decided that since I like that Wild Thang movie with Charlie Sheen and they were the Cleveland Indians, that I’m a Tribe fan this year. Of course, given my track record, that may well be the kiss of death.
TJ @ 68
feh. when do pitchers and catchers report to spring training?
Are we coming up to an olympic year?
TJ @ 74
summer olympics june 2008
Since Arizona hosts the Cactus League we have Baseball here from Feb-March and then we just fall right into the regular season. The Diamondbacks go south…. to Tucson but we have the 12 teams here including the D-backs.
http://www.cactusleague.com/
http://www.cactusleague.com/c_plan.php
Makes me wonder if I slept through the last winter olympics then. i honestly am drawing a complete blank.
TJ – 2008 Summer Olympics in China
dig one for the Gipper:
TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. — The body of George Gipp, the Notre Dame football player who inspired the rallying cry “Win one for the Gipper,” was exhumed recently for DNA testing in his Upper Peninsula hometown.
Dr Hillhouse is answering questions now at the bottom of the previous thread
2006 winter – had lots of spoilers in the comments at the lake iirc
t. punaise @ 79
Why?
2010 – Winter Olympics in Vancouver BC
TJ @ 82
unspecified family reasons
katymine~
I don’t de-lurk often, but your health is important!! Believe me. From a digestive standpoint….drugs always do a number on one’s guts. Not to mention the intrusion of stainless steel into one’s tissue. Okay. You’re eating all the right things. You’re following doctor’s orders for exercise? I am assuming: Yes. Now — here is an important item that so far hasn’t been mentioned— in order to digest, flush all the drugs out of your liver/kidneys/other tissue, and keep yourself in in balance: you gotta drink more clean water than you ever want to. It’s boring. It’s inconvenient. BUT you know what? It’s one of the best favors you can do for yourself as you are healing.
Flush the drugs out. Help your intestines do their job. Speed the healing process. Drink lot’s of clean water. (Bottled, or filtered- no matter.)
Okay girlfriend. Lecture over. Take care. fingers and toes crossed for a speedy recovery.
xoxoxo
Vancouver sounds wonderful. Perhaps we’ll get the house sold and be fancy free by then.
katymine @ 76
you’re in Phoenix? that’s my 20 as well.
katymine @ 83
the goshdarned little cottage by the creek in the redwoods had better forking sold by then
We DO have some good news to report.
People who can’t do arithmetic shouldn’t be given any role in the formulation of tax policy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..inionsbox1
In. Fuckin’. Credible.
Here’s my quarter, Suzanne. Put it in the jukebox.
Let me tell you how it will be.
There’s one for you, nineteen for me.
burnspbesq @ 90
ask and ye shall receive
Suzanne @ 88
Did we do that simultaneously?
jcricket @85
Elmore will be refilling my 10 gallon jugs of RO water at the corner Ice & Water store tomorrow.
I usually go through a gallon or more per day. I agree about the detox…. still can taste the metallic residue of the drugs. Expect to be off all the narcotics after this weekend which will have another level of detox…
btw…. Elmore can you fill up my 22oz water glass again?
Suzanne @ 58
oh no, not wet clown cars?
we did, tj :)
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 94
snort!
acckkkkk not wet clown cars
Good evening all.
Katymine, I’ve been thinking about your upcoming trip to Paris and have what I hope can be some useful resources for you.
When you are able to get out go to your local B&N or favorite Independent bookstore and look for/get a little boxed set of cards with mapped out walking tours of the Parisian neighborhoods. The one I’m thinking of has maybe 19/20 different walks from 1hr to all day. My brother has one and I will call hin tomorrow and get the details from him and post it for you.
Next: if you are thinking of “eating” in Paris check out the Parisistwebsite. It is currently on hiatus but you can still get in. Scroll down and on the left is the girl who ate everything with photos to make you drool. And if you are a coffee drinker Le Blaguer a’Paris will tell you where to find good coffee in her post “coffee in paris tastes like ass.”
BTW, four days isn’t enough but if you can do only one walk you have an excuse to go back 18 times!!!
katymine @ 93
The detox shouldn’t be that bad for the narcs since you weren’t on them long term, katymine. I expect you’ve also got the willpower if there ARE any cravings for them too. My distaste for heavy narcotics is what keeps me from needing them long term myself. If i can’t think straight? i want off the stupid things ASAP. Pretty good motivation that, then i just go to the less powerful ones(non narc every chance i get!) to keep the edge off and cut swelling, etc.
night all.
see you tomorrow.
pain free sleep wishes, tex
So Senator Mitch McConnel won’t comment on wether his office leaked the False and Misleading information about the Frost family. My question is did Mitch use Senate funds or RNC funds to find out what he did about the Frosts.
Also was the Patriot Act Government wire tapping used to find out this stuff?
This could be a when did you STOP BEATING your wife question, we just want the questions asked on the MSM News, there is no answer that will be believed.
man did I screw up on the italics and the bold. Maybe next time!!!
P.S. I swiped a handfull of !!!! from CT the other night when he and Mrs. CT were…
Felix Moronia @ 103
(laughing) we’ve all screwed up the coding… but i’ve never been so bold as to swipe !!! from CT
I took my first trip to Europe around 20 years ago. We started in Geneva, and took the train to Lyon, Dijon, Paris, Brussels, and Amsterdam over the Christmas holiday.
Switzerland was so expensive that we didn’t eat much. The memorable dining experience was a place called McCheap.
When we finally got into France, I said I wanted real food. We went to a decent restaurant, and there was something on the menu that was served with a dozen different varieties with a name I couldn’t find in the dictionary. I was thinking maybe it was pasta-like, with different toppings. Turns out that carpacio is thinly sliced raw beef. My face must have been priceless as I pretended that I got exactly what I was expecting, lol.
Damn… my toobz just misappeared…. AND lost my comment I was posting…..
We all know a guy who works in the TeeVee industry who has also worked three past Olympics [Atlanta, Sidney & Salt Lake] who just might be working the 2010 Vancouver games …… sweet!
TJ @ 65
The Democratic Primary race against Dirty Don Young is now a three-way race.
katymine @ 106
Sounds like a great excuse for a trip!
katymine @ 106
a guy named elmore?
How did you guess Suzanne?
:P
I was a highly trained professional observer in my previous job, katymine
TJ @ 105
tasty…an Italian dictionary would have helped
My AZ almost midnight question…..
Does anyone think that Gore will jump into the Presidential race?
How did Mitch find out this information about the Frosts? Isn’t this a misuse of Government funds? I want Mitch to defend spying on a 12 year old.
I want him under oath saying that no wire taps government approved or otherwise were used. Again there is no answer to that question that Mitch could say that we would believe.
I want Mitch to say under oath that his detectives or whomever investigated the Frosts did not do anything illegal to obtain the information they did get.
Considering the number of divorced people in the country who have been investigated by EXs it would be a hard sell to make even 30%ers think that Mitch’s detectives stayed within the limits of the law.
katymine @ 113
the nobel peace prize is announced soon and i guess we will know afterwards… from all the rumors i’ve been hearing
katymine @ 113
think? not really
hope? yes
So I learned afterwards, pun. It might have made a good mastercard ad.
things, i don’t think mitch the bitch mcconnell will answer those questions but they are mighty fine ones.
pun, isn’t the announcement at 2am friday ca time? or am i mis-remembering the fine details again
I think you are right, Suz
sorry, like the fine detail of the subject matter: the nobel peace prize
i hear there is a rumor that there are (gasp) other blogs out there… do any of them have anything interesting to say today?
Too bad I took the muscle relaxer tonight, or I’d get some wine.
Well late late niters… I am taking my tired of sitting butt to bed….. night all
Heal well, Katy.
Am going bridal gown shopping with my oldest, jen, saturday – i won’t be here sat night… she is thinking perhaps something along the lines of this
nite katy!
Wow!
g’nite katy – rest up and let elmore take care of ya
Suzanne @ 126
wow!
Suzanne @ 126
That’s soo beautiful. Oh to have the body to be able to wear that.
i raised a girl with champagne tastes for sure :)
Suzanne @ 132
Which is fine if you have a champagne pay packet. Still, it’s her wedding day, how could you deny her?
quelle belle robe. model looks kinda grim, though.
persi, didja look at the back… she is thinking of it in the diamond white… her skin is so pale she would look better in that than the pure white.. we think
Who payed for this investigation didn’t Dan Rostenkowki a Democrat member of the House of Representives get forced out of office for misussing federal funds he later plea bargined down to mail fraud.
I want Mitch to defend ussing federal funds to spy on 12 yr olds. I want him forced out of office.
I want the RNC and the Republican Presidential candidates to defend this if RNC funds were used. I want to hang them with the when did you stop beating your wife question if I can.
I want whatever shadow contributer to the GOP to appear before Congress if “cough ” private funds payed for the investigation into the Frost family.
The GOP opened the doors when they had Congress condemm Move On about the Petraeus ad.
Protect the Children from Right Wing Brown Shirts advertising your political opponets address is a call for violence from your supporters.
Its an invitation for violence with an address we have to stop this now or well just what do we Dems stand for?
well, that’s about it for me tonight folks. g’nite all
gnight, Suz
Suzanne @ 137
TJ @ 138
likewise, and likewise
The back is awesome Suzanne. Good night, sweet dreams.
http://in.rediff.com/news/2007/oct/10raman.htm
More Trouble in Pakistan funny how the GOP justifies everything with 9/11 but Ossama is still in Pakistan untouched by American troops as Pakistan is loosing control of a province or two.
If there is a terroist attack on America again remeber this, Bush has kept our army in Iraq while leaving Ossama alone in Pakistan to plan his next attack.
The war on terror has gone on for 6 years why have we stoped chasing Ossama?
Bush owns full responsiblity if America is attacked by terrorist again!
Things Come Undone @ 141
Well Things, how are you gonna justify keeping the War of Terra going if ya catch the chief Terrist? If GWB didn’t have Osama, he’d have to invent him. He’s much more useful as a boogey man than as “the defendant”
Howdy, stragglers. I would have been here sooner, but my cold is killing me, drip by drip. :p Oh well, I didn’t actually really have anything to say, anyways.
::insert whine, moan, complain, etc.::
Osama bin Laden died in the winter of 2001-2002. There has been no credible evidence of his survival since.
persiflage @ 142
I want us ready to blame Bush if there is another terror attack on America. I want the Sheep MSM to ask him why our troops are in Iraq instead of on the hunt for Osamma.
I hope that if we press this point the American people will agree with your reasoning:).
Ed*ard Teller @ 144
Persiflage has a point we can’t justify this war if Osama is dead or captured.
Which makes the outing of Valerie Palme and the Bushies release of the Osama tape to Fox News before Osama released the tape much more of a problem for Bush.
It makes it look like he was trying to stop us from finding out!
Things Come Undone @ 146
There is no evidence that there was an Osama to release the tape. The tape was released sorta simultaneously to the NSA and WH by the Israeli woman whose firm claims to have means through which it monitors ObL and AQ. I have no idea why this weird narrative is playing out the way it is, but….
In the tape, every time Dr. Evil from the cave’s audio track relates to events after 2001, the video is in freeze-frame. We’re not only falling for a bogus operation, we’re falling for a low-budget, low-tech one.
From the WallStreet Journal
“Already, the new owners have run into delays with one of their first key tasks, selling off lower-revenue-generating stations in smaller markets. Unloading those assets is key to paying down the debt the company is taking on to privatize. In a worst-case scenario, failure to do so could delay Clear Channel’s return to public markets.
“It’s tough to go public again at anywhere more than seven times leverage,” says David Bank, an analyst at RBC Capital Markets, referring to debt as a multiple of earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. He thinks the company’s new private holders initially hoped to go back to public markets within two or three years. In current conditions, “the new owners have to be prepared to own the company for as long as five to six years,” he says. Bain Capital and Lee declined to comment.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/…..lenews_wsj
While March 19th marked the year anniversary of the start of the war in Iraq, it also marked another anniversary – the day the mainstream press addressed the blurring boundaries between Clear Channel Communications and the Bush administration. “Media giant’s rally sponsorship raises questions,” the Chicago Tribune declared on March 19, 2003, before delving into some rather unsettling implications of the cozy relationship between America’s largest radio conglomerate and President Bush.
“In a move that has raised eyebrows in some legal and journalistic circles, Clear Channel radio stations in Atlanta, Cleveland, San Antonio, Cincinnati and other cities have sponsored rallies attended by up to 20,000,” the Tribune reported, commenting on participants’ signs, which, in addition to condemning France, targeted the Dixie Chicks after lead singer Natalie Maines criticized the president. [Chicago Tribune]
http://www.buzzflash.com/farre…..04009.html
Ed*ard Teller @ 147
About the tape the private inteligence service that got the tape gave the tape to the White House but told them not to release it until after Osama released the tape.
They did not want Al Quidea to be tipped off that people had penetrated his security.
Releasing the tape told Osama (assuming he is still alive) he had a security leak which shut down that avenue of inteligence.
Maybe Valerie got to close to Al Quieda and the information is still classified. Has anybody gotten close to Osama since 9/11?
He may be dead or the Bushies are keeping him free on purpose to keep the war going.
It doesn’t matter leaking a spies identity or inteligence methods is treason! We don’t have to prove motive, or the fact of White House involvment, we even have a pattern of behaviour now.
But a Terror Attack on American soil could provide a change in the political climate that would allow for Treason Charges to be brought up.
The Bushies think a terror attack would flip Bush’s poll numbers. But if we hold Bush responsible for not going after Osama in Pakistan and attacking Iraq instead, well then we HAVE HIM!
I want us ready to blame Bush if there is another terror attack on America. I want the Sheep MSM to ask him why our troops are in Iraq instead of on the hunt for Osamma.
I hope that if we press this point the American people will agree with your reasoning:).
—————————————–
I just hope there isn’t another attack on America. When something that scary happens, people react with fear and scared people aren’t going to make big changes. They cling to “the devil you know”. Logical, sensible people might think “Bush didn’t protect us!”, frightened people don’t do a lot of logical thinking.
I could be wrong, I’d just hate to see my theory put to the test.
jcricket @ 85
seconded!
thirded!
fourthed!
from experience!
yes,it can get a leetle inconvenient,
BUT,
your body will love it
and reward you muchly.
So Mitt Romney wants to buy Clear Channel a network which already has ties to Rush Limbaugh and a history of supporting the GOP.
Even if supporting the GOP means organizing rallies to burn Dixie Chick CDs, a clear violation of free speech.
“Masri declined to specify how large of a minority stake Huawei would have in 3Com _ potentially a sensitive issue, since some U.S. politicians have complained about Chinese firms buying stakes of U.S. companies, particularly technology firms. 3Com said it would make public details of Huawei’s involvement in coming weeks.”
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Tec…..85908.html
I wonder if Rush will attack Mitt for giving China sensitive Classified Technology? Didn’t Rush attack Bill for his ties to China? This is another port security Dubai deal.
So OBL is dead. This SITE company is creating bogus videos of OBL to scare us. The Bushies “burn” SITE. My take on that is that SITE didn’t have a backdoor into AQ and just made up shit for Bushco and will stil be on the payroll making up more shit!
Clear Channel is not making enough money they are thinking of closing down a few radio stations and advertising revenues are down. But the price offered per share offered in the buyout went up?
Given the current business climate instead of going public with the stock in 2,3 years business analysts think Bain Capital might have to hold on for 5 or 6 years. So why is Bain still in this deal?
Is someone taking Mitt for a ride? Why is Clear Channel raking Mitt and asking for more money when revenues are down?
Is it because Mitt needs Rush and all of Clear Channel’s radio stations working for him if he wants to be president? Even if the buyout deal doesn’t make financial sense?
Or maybe it does a President can influence the law and make Clear Channel profitable again, …but but that kind of quid pro quo would be illegal.
Isn’t there some kind of campaign finance law that stops this? I thought Grandpa Fred’s Law and Order episodes would be pulled because it would be a campaign contribution.
Can anyone really expect Clear Channel and Rush saying anything bad about Mitt’s lets transfer sensetive technolgy to China deal after he is boss? We need to stop this now!
I don’t know is Osama is dead but I admit that it is possible. It is impossible to find out for sure though given that Bush keeps burning our inteligence sources!
Just so all of you know, Malkin has already declined. Instead, she rants about how “unobjective” Ezra Klein is and everything goes into the sewer from there. Her response on her blog.
persiflage @ 150
Thats why we have to spread the blame Bush if America get attacked again meme now before the attack.
Otherwise you may be right. Besides I want all the GOP presidential candidates to defend Bush attacking Iraq on TV when Osama is in Pakistan.
I want to see 30%ers circuits fry as they try and rationalize that cognitive dissonance.
Thats why we have to spread the blame Bush if America get attacked again meme now before the attack.
Otherwise you may be right. Besides I want all the GOP presidential candidates to defend Bush attacking Iraq on TV when Osama is in Pakistan.
I want to see 30%ers circuits fry as they try and rationalize that cognitive dissonance.
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I get your point, maybe TV and print ads making the point “If Bush cares about stopping terrorism why is Osama still free?”
In that sense “Osama” is a code-word for villian, the sum of all bad things. Of course, practically, he has become less important as his message spreads. Most recent attacks, such as the London bombings, are being carried out by small groups with no real connection to Osama other than to have been inspired by him. Of course, the 30%ers don’t know that, to them Osama is directly responsible for it all, possibly including global warming. So to them, he is Ultimate Evil. Actually, in writing this I see your point more clearly. How did “Wanted: Dead or Alive” turn into “eh, who cares?”
persiflage@ 158
“How did “Wanted: Dead or Alive” turn into “eh, who cares?”” THAT is our commerical how could we leave our 9/11 Dead unavenged while Osama is laughing at us! Our Troops are getting shot at in Iraq while Osama plans his next attack on America.
We hit 9/11, we hit Oasma is still alive, we throw some salt on that wound by mentioning that he is laughing at us. Then we close the deal by pointing out that all our troops are in Iraq AND NOT HUNTING DOWN OSAMA IN PAKISTAN.
“Under current tax laws, firms like Carlyle pay the capital gains tax rate on that revenue, known as carried interest. According to the union, Carlyle’s investments in companies that receive government subsidies allow it to wring profits using taxpayers’ money, while its lower tax rate allows it to keep most of that money.”
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes……-money/?hp
All profits, income etc should be taxed equally! The argument that taxing rich people less allows them to create jobs for our economy is wrong.
Unless you consider all the jobs outsourced to lower wage countries by the rich people who control big business seeking even higher returns on their money a benefit to our economy.
But by what twist of logic that makes sense only a Bushie could rationalize.
Kelvin Phillips @ 156
Malkin is afraid of debating in an uncontroled format like Fox, or to be fair the rest of the MainStrean Media.
Didn’t Ann Coulter cancel an appearence on Paula Zahn’s show when it appeared Paula was going to ask her hard questions.
I think we need a law that forces the Mainstream Media to annouce on the screen ticker below the program that an interview is restricted to the questions and topics the interviewe allows the Host to ask.
I would love Tweety Chris Mathews to explain why Ann Coulter won’t appear on his show anymore!
good morning.
yo
Howdy, 50 clear and dry (spotty rain Tuesday)..Have way too much on my plate, but you all play nice till Marion gets here.
Nice to hear that the South can be progressive.
There is a special election in Fannin Co. to allow service of alcohol with meals (no bars, in other words, restaurants only), that, due to the preachers, will probably not pass. Never mind that we are surrounded by ‘wet’ counties,
This year. With the inmigration, goddess willing, this place will reach the demographic tipping point, and the old hypocrisy (I mean, they used to make booze here like crazy) will die.
Blackwater Global Peace and Stability Operations Institute Symposium
you just can’t make this stuff up.
and Good Morning!
Michelle Malkin “WORSE PERSON IN THE WORLD” Contact Keith Olberman, ask him to do a story.
Or just start ignoring her. As long as people pay attention to poison spewing sickos they have $$value to a newspaper etc. After the left hammers her…ignore her.
Things Come Undone @ 161
Declining proves she is a coward, slithering out the back door sounds like her style.
Elliott @ 165
Hopefully Jeremy Scahill attends.
Ed*ard Teller @ 147
Makes sense. Although I still think dead or alive the Bush administration is granting OBL one of his wishes “to witness (from this side or the other) the US become a shadow of its former self”
Good morning, pups. Today the Times has TOMC and Roger Cohen. TOMC watched the Republican debate the other day and observed Fred Thompson. Poor Fred. Mr. Cohen says that the months leading up to the Beijing Olympics offer a golden opportunity to shame China into shepherding Burmese reform.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee and tea are ready, and I was also in the mood for some fresh-squeezed orange juice. I’ve got a selection of bagels, and LOTS of cream cheese. A bagel is an efficient cream cheese delivery system. Have a great day.
These guys are a hoot:
http://www.theyesmem.org/
Michele knows what struggling is all about. (cough cough) A Doctors daughter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Malkin
Malkin was born in Philadelphia to Filipino parents, Dr. Apolo and Rafaela Maglalang.
What is the worse thing that could happen to Malkin after she has been proven to be a hate monger and coward. Ignore her.
Good morning
State Dept. may phase out Blackwater
APNewsBreak: State Dept. May Phase Out Blackwater Guards in Iraq Following Deadly Shooting
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/n….._black.php
egregious @ 172
Good Morning to you also. I received an e-mail about an update for Esten but I can’t access the page because I can’t remember my password. Do you know how he’s doing?
JPL @ 174
Lemme go look.
Hanging Nooses catching
New York police probe noose incident as hate crime
http://www.reuters.com/article…..9520071010
Marines Press to Remove Their Forces From Iraq
JPL if you go to
http://www.carepages.com/ServeCarePage
they can send you info about your login name and password.
And if you need to find his page, it’s
estenmaxwell
[which is case sensitive, type it just like that]
Now I’ll check on Esten.
Go Carter! He called Cheney a “militant” That will go over big in the White House
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN102641
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Jimmy Carter calls Cheney a “disaster” for U.S
Wed Oct 10, 2007
Jimmy Carter calls Cheney a “disaster” for U.S
Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:42pm EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter on Wednesday denounced Vice President Dick Cheney as a “disaster” for the country and a “militant” who has had an excessive influence in setting foreign policy.
Cheney has been on the wrong side of the debate on many issues, including an internal White House discussion over Syria in which the vice president is thought to be pushing a tough approach, Carter said.
“He’s a militant who avoided any service of his own in the military and he has been most forceful in the last 10 years or more in fulfilling some of his more ancient commitments that the United States has a right to inject its power through military means in other parts of the world,” Carter told the BBC World News America in an interview to air later on Wednesday.
“You know he’s been a disaster for our country,” Carter said. “I think he’s been overly persuasive on President George Bush and quite often he’s prevailed.”
Asked to comment on Carter’s remarks, Megan Mitchell, a spokeswoman for the Republican vice president, said, “We’re not going to engage in this type of rhetoric.”
Carter, a Democrat who was president from 1977 to 1981 and won the 2002 Nobel Peace prize for his charitable work, is a strong critic of the Iraq war and has often been outspoken in his criticism of President George W. Bush.
In a newspaper interview in May, Carter called the Bush administration the “worst in history” in international relations.
Carter did have kind words in the BBC interview for U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
“I’m filled with admiration for Condoleezza Rice in standing up to (Cheney) which she did even when she was in the White House under President George W. Bush,” Carter said, referring to Rice’s former role as White House national security adviser.
“Now secretary of state, her influence is obviously greater than it was then and I hope she prevails,” Carter added.
Times Op-Ed on Khaled el-Masri:
Esten went thru neutropenia and kidney stones but if I am reading correctly these seem to be clearing up.
I hope Tom won’t mind if I share his anecdote from yesterday:
egregious @ 182
that sparks a smile!
Thanks egregious. I’ll save my password next time.
Elliott @ 181
Turned down by lower courts, the supreme court based on state secrets according to Democracy Now. I guess the ACLU is involved
JPL @ 184
It’s tough to remember login info for so many different things. I try to strike a balance between some variations for security and keeping it simple so I can remember them. Doesn’t always work tho :)
Every time you utter the names Malkin, Coulter or O’Rielly you legitimize their ideas as worthy of discussion. Truly, the worst thing you can do to these people is ignore them. Quoting idiots in order to pump up outrage really isn’t necessary. There is plenty to be outraged about without them.
cahuenga @ 187
Agreed. Although I think challenging them to a verbal discussion/debate is not a bad idea. Throw her on the heap if she is not willing to back up her outrageous statements and claims.
cahuenga @ 187
Actually I think it helps to become outraged because sometimes MSM will cover just how wacky they are. They have an audience that only sees one side and that audience can become more informed if the lies are pointed out to them.
They gave the Nobel Prize to Doris Lessing!
Doris Lessing Wins Nobel Prize in Literature
cahuenga @ 187
I disagree. These vile liars have to have their propaganda ripped open and displayed to the public. Right now they are seen as either harmless or amusing.
Kathleen @ 189
They exist to inflame. Discussion is pointless. They are the village idiots, ignore them and their ideas as they are NOT worthy.
1,623 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen cahuenga and the early mornin’ Firepup Freedom Fighters:
I believe that, in the long run you are right, to shun and ignore them is ultimately the “final solution” for these gobblins and gargoyls but first to expose them in civilized discourse, when possible, removes any aquired legitimacy they have gathered from bein’ allowed on public airwaves.
I think yer on ta sumpthin’ there ‘huenga.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T BE AFRAID OF THE BASTARDS!!
Elliott @ 190
And the winner tomorrow will be?
JPL @ 194
I know I’ll be waiting up for the announcement!
Elliott @ 191
Lessing is a good choice, but I was hoping for Margaret Atwood.
Noahs Ark Take Two. If you have not done so all ready build your boats and get your life jackets.
Arctic Melt Unnerves the Experts
By Andrew C. Revkin
The New York Times
http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/100207EA.shtml
The Arctic ice cap shrank so much this summer that waves briefly lapped along two long-imagined Arctic shipping routes, the Northwest Passage over Canada and the Northern Sea Route over Russia.
Overall, the floating ice dwindled to an extent unparalleled in a century or more, by several estimates.
And is the image above the hand of the ‘lady scientist’ in Repo Man?
I gotta go.
JPL @ 190
I understand both sides of this “debate” but it seems like (from past examples) if you ignore them, they simply ratchet up their attacks to smear increasingly vulnerable people. And those who see the attacks undefended become more and more accepting that it is perfectly *normal* to continue such subhuman behavior.
I stand with JPL and egregious: sooner or later (and it bloody well ought to be sooner), if you don’t fight back, the dark side becomes even blacker.
I give you the republic party as a prime example.
Elliott @ 195
Give us hope … Run Al Run! Re-elect Gore!
egregious @ 192
You are playing right into their hand. The general public knows what these people are about and you will never, ever, reach their regular viewers.
A Re-elect Gore bumper sticker would look good on the back of my car.
Waccamaw @ 199
I also agree with both sides. Fight back with logic, reason and challenges. But after this strategy is exhausted. Ignore them.
Ann Coulter does not get the attention she used to receive.
Morning everyone. Overslept. I have about 10 min to check out the sites.
Kathleen -
Ann Coulter does not get the attention she used to receive.
Documentation?
Kathleen @ 204
Exactly. Two years ago they may have warranted a comment, maybe. But they are now certainly irrelevant and should be treated as such.
Anyone listen to Democracy Now yesterday? Tariq Ali just ripped up Barak Obama
The acclaimed British-Pakistani historian,
novelist, political campaigner and commentator Tariq Ali joins us with his analysis of the latest from Pakistan. Days after General Pervez Musharraf’s re-election in a boycotted contest, at least 250 people have been killed in clashes along the Afghan border. Musharraf and his policies have generated a maelstrom of opposition from a broad spectrum of the Pakistani population.
Here is what Tariq Ali said about Obama
MY GOODMAN: Tariq Ali, I wanted to play a clip of the Democratic presidential hopeful, Senator Barack Obama, saying two months ago that he would attack areas in Pakistan with or without approval of the Pakistani government.
SEN. BARACK OBAMA: I understand that President Musharraf has his own challenges, but let me make this clear. There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets, and President Musharraf will not act, we will.
AMY GOODMAN: That’s Barack Obama. Tariq Ali?
TARIQ ALI: Well, I mean, what is quite staggering is that Barack Obama, whose ignorance on world politics is well known, using this issue in Pakistan to try and strike a military pose, I mean, it’s utterly grotesque and pathetic. Were the United States to start bombing raids inside Pakistan, there would be a massive increase of support for the jihadi fundamentalist groups in that country, and it would weaken not just secular political groups, it would weaken even the moderate religious parties who are not associated with that. So this sort of rhetoric coming from Obama is incredibly provocative.
I remember once when I was in the United States just before Bush got reelected and watching — I was in Illinois watching Barack Obama say on television that were Bush to decide to take out the Iranian nuclear reactor, he would be in total support of it. So if this is what Democratic candidates are talking like, Amy, it is quite a depressing situation.
http://www.democracynow.org/ar…..10/1414233
CNN just talked about the Frosts. They presented all the repub talking points with the qualifier that they may not be true (ie the tuition etc.). Then they had a commentator say that the Dems didn’t vet the family as well as they should have.
We NEED a progressive TV news show.
cahuenga @ 206
Mrs. Edwards response to her attacks helped decrease her popularity IMO.
Waccamaw @ 205
No hard documentation just my own observations of watching and reading from the left, right and center. Even when she repeats outrageous and inflammatory statements (does she say anything else?), I think the spotlight moves rather quickly off of her.
Scarecrow is here:
Is There No Decency Left In The Republican Party?
JPL @ 210
That and the response by the 911 Widows.
It marginalized her to the point where any right-wing group that wants to be taken seriously can’t invite her to speak. They don’t want guilt by association,
Ignoring them only let them build up huge bases of support – sort of like Goebbels. Who, BTW, was astute enough to not allow coverage of what the NAZIs were saying INTERNALLY to be exposed INTERNATIONALLY. There weren’t even any “authorized” English language versions of Mein Kampf, for example. All translations were done illicitly. What one really needs to do is to expose what these folks ARE saying to their minions…that EXPOSES precisely what the dangers are of allowing these folks to influence politicians and marshall their forces.