TRex!!!

first?

dangit ;-)

Hiya!

Top 20?

In a wonderful development, I’m feeling sleepy! Hope you all have a lovely night.

Number Seven?

Late Late Nite – where Off Topic is the topic.

how very symmetrical

epu’d:

Judge: Inquiry into Utah mine accident is private
from CNN.com – U.S.

The press does not have the right to get access to the government’s investigation into the deadly August accident at the Crandall Canyon mine, a federal judge in Utah ruled Tuesday.

g’night TJ, sleep well.

Suzanne @ 8

Late Late Nite – where Off Topic is the topic.

Party!!!

sleep well TJ

Why do I feel like it’s 6 AM? Oh, right…I’ve only been back home for about 27 hours…

cause it is 6am where you were LL?

So who has listened to the new Annie Lenox CD? What do you think?

punaise @ 9

how very symmetrical

Sort of gave me the willies. Tomorrow I will watch the whole vid.

TeddySanFran @ 7

Number Seven?

7 O’7

20, maybe?

Christine Edmonson @ 16

So who has listened to the new Annie Lenox CD? What do you think?

IN.CRE.DI.BLE.

Christine Edmonson @ 16

So who has listened to the new Annie Lenox CD? What do you think?

I haven’t, but I saw Alison Moyet on the Beeb last week and she is still in fine voice.

yellowdog jim @ 19

20, maybe?

One bettah! Evening, YDJ!!!

newtonusr @ 20

Christine Edmonson @ 16

So who has listened to the new Annie Lenox CD? What do you think?

IN.CRE.DI.BLE.

OH YEA!

from here in texas …..

Truck with explosive chemicals overturns near Victoria
from HoustonChronicle
When city officials meet Thursday to discuss the trucking of hazardous materials through town, they won’t have to look back very far for an example to talk about.

Christine Edmonson @ 23

newtonusr @ 20

IN.CRE.DI.BLE.

OH YEA!

Her instrument is as good as ever. And haunting fun.

was downstairs told?

Siouxsie Sioux,

dali just did something in his grave.

yellowdog jim @ 19

20, maybe?

Hey commish!

Suzanne @ 26

was downstairs told?

yes’m

Like TRex, I love Annie. She was a Goddess in France in 1979 — they adored her, and we used to sit in bars and listen. A long time ago…

LoudounLib @ 29

Suzanne @ 26

was downstairs told?

yes’m

thank ya, lass

South Texas county commissioner quits over voter fraud
from HoustonChronicle
REFUGIO — A Refugio County commissioner resigned Tuesday and acknowledged his role in a voter fraud scheme involving mail-in ballots that helped him get elected in 2006, officials said. Raymond Villarreal, 57, pleaded guilty to a felony count of tampering with a governmental document and a misdemeanor count of wrongful possession of a ballot.

tw3k @ 27

Siouxsie Sioux,

dali just did something in his grave.

He rolled over like Beethoven.

Suzanne @ 31

LoudounLib @ 29

yes’m

thank ya, lass

hee hee ;-) (looking for kilts)

marymccurnin @ 32

tw3k @ 27

Siouxsie Sioux,

dali just did something in his grave.

He rolled over like Beethoven.

707

Our good friend AlTheSpook (Alfred) says hi from Japan, where it’s 2pm on Wednesday.

AK’s in Japan?! Wow…

TexBetsy @ 36

Our good friend AlTheSpook (Alfred) says hi from Japan, where it’s 2pm on Wednesday.

Betsy – Did Alfred say how his dad was doing over there?

from the home-town rag:
Pelosi says Democrats must do more to stop the war

Zachary Coile, Chronicle Washington Bureau

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, talking on the eve of the fifth anniversary of the House vote to authorize the Iraq war, acknowledged Tuesday that the failure to end the war is hurting Democrats in Congress and lawmakers will have to take bolder action.

The San Francisco Democrat, in a wide-ranging lunch discussion with reporters, said her party’s successes in passing domestic legislation – such as raising the minimum wage and helping make college more affordable – were being overshadowed.

“It is in fact true, though, that the war has eclipsed everything,” she said. “While I’m very proud of the ratings that Democrats have on every issue we can name, I don’t disagree with the public evaluation that we have not done well in ending this war.”

The comments echoed some of the criticisms made by anti-war activists and some lawmakers, who have urged House Democratic leaders to take a more confrontational approach with the White House, by cutting off money for the war.
…

TexBetsy @ 36

Our good friend AlTheSpook (Alfred) says hi from Japan, where it’s 2pm on Wednesday.

wow, popped back in at the right moment. Say hi back to the ol’ ectoplasm.

newtonusr @ 38

TexBetsy @ 36

Our good friend AlTheSpook (Alfred) says hi from Japan, where it’s 2pm on Wednesday.

Betsy – Did Alfred say how his dad was doing over there?

Wonderful. Enjoying the attention from all the Japanese nurses, and from all who respect the elderly even when they have a touch of the alzheimers.

Reminiscing of Germany, reminded me of this Fraulein, I saw perform in Mainz…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZyxYL753w4

Betsy, do Al & his dad know the good news about Katymine?

Betsy, please tell him (although I’m sure you’ve already conveyed to him) how much we miss his presence here…

Okay, so OT is okay, I will repost from below. (found while checking out the Malkin piece at NYT)

Has to do with how the “food pyramid” came into being, with fats being the baddies. My second try came bec. I saw the comment about the fried Mars bar.

Sorry, the only way I could get this to post was using the print feature. But, there are so many folks out there who have put themselves in total diet misery trying to avoid fats. The article details how the recommendation to avoid fats came about, and cascaded into a totally wrong “scientific consensus”. It’s really the carbs that are the problem, not the fat. etc.

And, I do have a bit of a bee in my bonnet about this, bec. I have long been suspicious of the “fat is bad” take on eating.

Diet and Fat: A Severe Case of Mistaken Consensus

~~~The evidence that dietary fat correlates with heart disease “does not stand up to critical examination,” the American Heart Association concluded in 1957. But three years later the association changed position — not because of new data, Mr. Taubes writes, but because Dr. Keys and an ally were on the committee issuing the new report. It asserted that “the best scientific evidence of the time” warranted a lower-fat diet for people at high risk of heart disease.

The association’s report was big news and put Dr. Keys, who died in 2004, on the cover of Time magazine. The magazine devoted four pages to the topic — and just one paragraph noting that Dr. Keys’s diet advice was “still questioned by some researchers.” That set the tone for decades of news media coverage. Journalists and their audiences were looking for clear guidance, not scientific ambiguity.

After the fat-is-bad theory became popular wisdom, the cascade accelerated in the 1970s when a committee led by Senator George McGovern issued a report advising Americans to lower their risk of heart disease by eating less fat. “McGovern’s staff were virtually unaware of the existence of any scientific controversy,” Mr. Taubes writes, and the committee’s report was written by a nonscientist “relying almost exclusively on a single Harvard nutritionist, Mark Hegsted.”~~~ (snip)

newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 43

Betsy, do Al & his dad know the good news about Katymine?

Will tell him when he logs back in.

Yahoo! One of my favorite bluegrass artists, Claire Lynch, has a new album out today. “Scuse me while I go download.

GOP congressmen quit because of five-day work week.

From ThinkProgress:

Nine Republican congressmen have so far announced that they will not be running for re-election. One of those lawmakers, Rep. Ray LaHood (R-IL), complained “that the Democrats’ new five-day workweek” is part of the reason they’re all retiring: “I do think the schedule and the flying is a huge pain for people, particularly those […]

LoudounLib @ 43

Betsy, please tell him (although I’m sure you’ve already conveyed to him) how much we miss his presence here…

I certainly do…!!! 8-(

Siouxsie Sioux – 50 years old and still HOT!!!!

and the new album is pretty spiffy too (although I’m still a bit depressed that she and Budgie got divorced)

TexBetsy @ 48

GOP congressmen quit because of five-day work week.

From ThinkProgress:

Nine Republican congressmen have so far announced that they will not be running for re-election. One of those lawmakers, Rep. Ray LaHood (R-IL), complained “that the Democrats’ new five-day workweek” is part of the reason they’re all retiring: “I do think the schedule and
Greedy and lazy, too.

Autoreply from Gov. Perry:

Thank you for contacting the Office of the Governor. Your request has been submitted to the appropriate staff member.

CTuttle @ 49

LoudounLib @ 43

Betsy, please tell him (although I’m sure you’ve already conveyed to him) how much we miss his presence here…

I certainly do…!!! 8-(

THAT I’ve done several times. He may still be checking facebook.

TexBetsy @ 48

GOP congressmen quit because of five-day work week.

From ThinkProgress:

Nine Republican congressmen have so far announced that they will not be running for re-election. One of those lawmakers, Rep. Ray LaHood (R-IL), complained “that the Democrats’ new five-day workweek” is part of the reason they’re all retiring: “I do think the schedule and the flying is a huge pain for people, particularly those […]

poor widdle congresscritters think a 5 day work week is tough? i call bullshit

TexBetsy @ 48

GOP congressmen quit because of five-day work week.

From ThinkProgress:

Nine Republican congressmen have so far announced that they will not be running for re-election. One of those lawmakers, Rep. Ray LaHood (R-IL), complained “that the Democrats’ new five-day workweek” is part of the reason they’re all retiring: “I do think the schedule and the flying is a huge pain for people, particularly those […]

Greedy and lazy, too.

Good gawd y’all, I’m tired…hope to shake this jet lag in a day or so. Good night!

TexBetsy @ 48

GOP congressmen quit because of five-day work week.

From ThinkProgress:

Nine Republican congressmen have so far announced that they will not be running for re-election. One of those lawmakers, Rep. Ray LaHood (R-IL), complained “that the Democrats’ new five-day workweek” is part of the reason they’re all retiring: “I do think the schedule and the flying is a huge pain for people, particularly those […]

Yeah, if only his constituents had told him he’d have to work, he’d have passed.

Sleep well LL.

Good night, LL!

I’m certain Abramoff/Wilkes has tainted his career possibilities, he’s on the Appropriations and Intelligence committees…!!!

When US-made ‘censorware’ ends up in iron fists
http://rss.csmonitor.com/~r/fe…..-ussc.html

from Christian Science Monitor | Top Stories

Despite Burma’s record of repression, it’s probably legal for American companies to sell Internet filters there, export lawyers say. But is it ethical?

flic

This picture about Joy Division’s Ian Curtis is one of the most beautiful movies ever made about rock ‘n’ roll.
…

The music of my life …was still being written. It was evolving, it was alive. When you’re young, nostalgia is someone else’s hang-up…

If you’re over 30 — or even if you’re not — you know what happens next: You can’t hang onto youth, but you can hang onto music, and so, at least in some small way, most of us do. The trick is to guard against blind nostalgia, to open yourself to the possibility that the music you loved when you were 20 can still mean something when you’re 45. Perhaps it can mean even more.

Anton Corbijn’s “Control” tells the story of Ian Curtis, the lead singer of the revered Manchester post-punk band Joy Division.
…

TexBetsy @ 60

When US-made ‘censorware’ ends up in iron fists
http://rss.csmonitor.com/~r/fe…..-ussc.html

from Christian Science Monitor | Top Stories

Despite Burma’s record of repression, it’s probably legal for American companies to sell Internet filters there, export lawyers say. But is it ethical?

Ask the Chinese…!!!

chicago recluse @ 50

Siouxsie Sioux – 50 years old and still HOT!!!!

and the new album is pretty spiffy too (although I’m still a bit depressed that she and Budgie got divorced)

I was afraid of this, are those Budgie’s drums 2/3 the way through the track?

Christine,
As for Annie, I’m a little disappointed. I still look at the Peace album as her best recent work. Just my opinion though.

Trex, you always scoop the new music. Thanks :0

Time for me to follow LL to bed.

Wait, that didn’t come out right.

You know what I mean. Dirty minds, the lot of you.

Goodnight, all.

Saw the sign in front of church in town this weekend – said having the right does not make it right.

Nite, Burns and LL!!!

punaise @ 62

flic

This picture about Joy Division’s Ian Curtis is one of the most beautiful movies ever made about rock ‘n’ roll.
…

The music of my life …was still being written. It was evolving, it was alive. When you’re young, nostalgia is someone else’s hang-up…

If you’re over 30 — or even if you’re not — you know what happens next: You can’t hang onto youth, but you can hang onto music, and so, at least in some small way, most of us do. The trick is to guard against blind nostalgia, to open yourself to the possibility that the music you loved when you were 20 can still mean something when you’re 45. Perhaps it can mean even more.

Anton Corbijn’s “Control” tells the story of Ian Curtis, the lead singer of the revered Manchester post-punk band Joy Division.
…

And in connection with the release of the film, Rhino is releasing deluxe, remastered editions of both Joy Division albums later this month.

CTuttle @ 22

yellowdog jim @ 19

20, maybe?

One bettah! Evening, YDJ!!!

mister tuttle, i presume.

top o’ the evenin’ to ya

*waving to the leaving sleepy pups*

VG in my back to the land days on my one acre hobby farm, I read an article about comparing heart disease in the US and N. Europe in relationship to milk intake. The big difference was that milk in the US was homogenized and was only Pasteurized. There was a lot of research and found that when milk is homogenized the fat molecule is broken down which makes it easier to be absorbed in the intestinal track.

Also about all the testing in the 60-70’s on cholesterol. Funny thing is that all the tests they based ALL their health info on was done in rabbits. They were feeding rabbits eggs, Cheese and meats. Funny thing, that diet raised their cholesterol. It was only years later after a whole industry was built around lowering cholesterol via “bad food” that a repeat test using rabbits and a mouthy farm hand who told the testers… you scientists are really dumb because rabbits are vegans. Feeding them that diet nearly killed the rabbits.

LoudounLib @ 44

Betsy, please tell him (although I’m sure you’ve already conveyed to him) how much we miss his presence here…

i left a note at his facebook wall.

katymine @ 71

VG in my back to the land days on my one acre hobby farm, I read an article about comparing heart disease in the US and N. Europe in relationship to milk intake. The big difference was that milk in the US was homogenized and was only Pasteurized. There was a lot of research and found that when milk is homogenized the fat molecule is broken down which makes it easier to be absorbed in the intestinal track.

Also about all the testing in the 60-70’s on cholesterol. Funny thing is that all the tests they based ALL their health info on was done in rabbits. They were feeding rabbits eggs, Cheese and meats. Funny thing, that diet raised their cholesterol. It was only years later after a whole industry was built around lowering cholesterol via “bad food” that a repeat test using rabbits and a mouthy farm hand who told the testers… you scientists are really dumb because rabbits are vegans. Feeding them that diet nearly killed the rabbits.

707!

CTuttle @ 63

TexBetsy @ 60

When US-made ‘censorware’ ends up in iron fists
http://rss.csmonitor.com/~r/fe…..-ussc.html

from Christian Science Monitor | Top Stories

Despite Burma’s record of repression, it’s probably legal for American companies to sell Internet filters there, export lawyers say. But is it ethical?

Ask the Chinese…!!!

Asking the Chinese about ethics is like asking Joe Lieberman about loyalty.

katymine @ 71

VG in my back to the land days on my one acre hobby farm, I read an article about comparing heart disease in the US and N. Europe in relationship to milk intake. The big difference was that milk in the US was homogenized and was only Pasteurized. There was a lot of research and found that when milk is homogenized the fat molecule is broken down which makes it easier to be absorbed in the intestinal track.

Also about all the testing in the 60-70’s on cholesterol. Funny thing is that all the tests they based ALL their health info on was done in rabbits. They were feeding rabbits eggs, Cheese and meats. Funny thing, that diet raised their cholesterol. It was only years later after a whole industry was built around lowering cholesterol via “bad food” that a repeat test using rabbits and a mouthy farm hand who told the testers… you scientists are really dumb because rabbits are vegans. Feeding them that diet nearly killed the rabbits.

Thanks for the info! And, if you read the article, it talks about a “cascade of consensus”. It is pernicious.

you scientists are really dumb because rabbits are vegans. Feeding them that diet nearly killed the rabbits.

what goes in Vegans stays on in Vegans

katymine @ 71

VG in my back to the land days on my one acre hobby farm, I read an article about comparing heart disease in the US and N. Europe in relationship to milk intake. The big difference was that milk in the US was homogenized and was only Pasteurized. There was a lot of research and found that when milk is homogenized the fat molecule is broken down which makes it easier to be absorbed in the intestinal track.

Also about all the testing in the 60-70’s on cholesterol. Funny thing is that all the tests they based ALL their health info on was done in rabbits. They were feeding rabbits eggs, Cheese and meats. Funny thing, that diet raised their cholesterol. It was only years later after a whole industry was built around lowering cholesterol via “bad food” that a repeat test using rabbits and a mouthy farm hand who told the testers… you scientists are really dumb because rabbits are vegans. Feeding them that diet nearly killed the rabbits.

LOL!

GOP Opposes Attempt To Revise Wiretap Law
from wa po politics by Ellen Nakashima

A House Democratic effort to revise the nation’s new foreign intelligence surveillance law met swift resistance yesterday from the White House, Republican lawmakers and even some party members.

‘Let me take you down, ’cause I’m going too…’

;>)

TexBetsy @ 78

GOP Opposes Attempt To Revise Wiretap Law
from wa po politics by Ellen Nakashima

A House Democratic effort to revise the nation’s new foreign intelligence surveillance law met swift resistance yesterday from the White House, Republican lawmakers and even some party members.

Since when is ‘oh fuck‘ called swift resistance?

From Former Bush Aide, A Candid Assessment Of the GOP Candidates
from wa po politics by Peter Baker

A former adviser to President Bush has a brutally candid analysis of the Republican presidential nomination contest: Fred D. Thompson is the campaign’s “biggest dud,” Mitt Romney has “a real problem in the South” because of his religion, Mike Huckabee’s last name is too hick, and John McCain could…

persiflage @ 74

CTuttle @ 63

Ask the Chinese…!!!

Asking the Chinese about ethics is like asking Joe Lieberman about loyalty.

China has to be one of the more interesting nations as it takes study and reflection as a matter of policy.

persiflage @ 74

Asking the Chinese about ethics is like asking Joe Lieberman about loyalty.

k… my anti-stereotyping alarms are going off left-and-right with this statement.

persiflage @ 73

CTuttle @ 63

Ask the Chinese…!!!

Asking the Chinese about ethics is like asking Joe Lieberman about loyalty.

Exactly! Even you can see that from way down under…!!! *Doh* ;-)

punaise @ 76

you scientists are really dumb because rabbits are vegans. Feeding them that diet nearly killed the rabbits.

what goes in Vegans stays on in Vegans

* groans * *g

Blub @ 83

persiflage @ 74

Asking the Chinese about ethics is like asking Joe Lieberman about loyalty.

k… my anti-stereotyping alarms are going off left-and-right with this statement.

Think CHINESE GOVERNMENT and not CHINESE PEOPLE.

Suzanne @ 79

TexBetsy @ 78

GOP Opposes Attempt To Revise Wiretap Law
from wa po politics by Ellen Nakashima

A House Democratic effort to revise the nation’s new foreign intelligence surveillance law met swift resistance yesterday from the White House, Republican lawmakers and even some party members.

Since when is ‘oh fuck‘ called swift resistance?

*Ahem* Swear Jar…!!! ;-)

Just maybe one of my local TeeVee stations has learned to present both sides of a story…. They reported on the latest Terra warning but also reported that it just might be a political plot to get the Democrats of fold on the latest FISA bill.

I just am shocked… did something happen when I was in hospital to shut off the kool-aid to my local media?

WOW… In ARIZONA too….

Suzanne @ 80

Since when is ‘oh fuck‘ called swift resistance?

Swift resistance from this WH is pretty much “9/11! 9/11! 9/11! Fear! Fear! Fear!”.. the official warning out today of a brand spankin’ new AQ plot to *gasp* infiltrate operatives into the US, was simply hilarious

No comment at all on this one, but I suspect y’all WILL have a good time:

Judge Orders U.S. Not to Transfer Tunisian Detainee
by Josh White

A federal district judge has ordered the government not to transfer a Tunisian detainee held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to his home country, over fears that he would be tortured or killed. The move marks the first time a court has prevented U.S. officials from making such a transfer and is the firs…

CT, feel free to toss some change into the jar if you feel you must.

good one, DeeB

EPU’d: I just got done with other work, and my apologies if this from TPM has already been covered:

Greg Sargent – October 9, 2007, 7:21PM [PDT]

Things are in flux tonight behind the scenes as House Dems struggle to decide whether to support the FISA legislation that two House committees unveiled today. So here’s what we’re able to gather about the state of play right now.

The entire House leadership is supporting the bill, confirms Stacey Bernards, a spokesperson for House Dem leader Steny Hoyer. But where are the House liberals? They are the key group to watch, because their mini-revolt against the legislation last week was taken as a sign that there would be heavy pressure on the House leadership not to capitulate by giving the administration too much power over wiretapping.

So where are they? According to House Dem aides, House liberals appear to be leaning in the direction of supporting the legislation — though nothing is at all certain. Earlier today, an aide says, an internal count of House members showed very strong opposition among liberals to the bill unveiled today. But later in the day, some liberals appeared to be privately concluding that many of their demands — which they unveiled amid last week’s revolt in hopes of influencing the process — had been met, this aide says.
[…]

This looks like a fucking disaster!!!

Suzanne @ 90

CT, feel free to toss some change into the jar if you feel you must.

I’ve got a shiny ND Quarter…!!!

TexBetsy @ 90

No comment at all on this one, but I suspect y’all WILL have a good time:

unfortunately, on the same day, the supremes refused to hear the complaint of a German national kidnapped by CIA, disappeared, tortured and then dumped on the grounds that acknowledging that this man may have some rights would undermine American “state security”… effectively giving shrubco leave to disappear and torture well, anybody, for any reason.

CT, either put it in the jukebox or apply it along with some friends to the donate button at the upper right corner of the page.

TexBetsy @ 36

Our good friend AlTheSpook (Alfred) says hi from Japan, where it’s 2pm on Wednesday.

So, like, is he going to come back?

Blub @ 83

persiflage @ 74

Asking the Chinese about ethics is like asking Joe Lieberman about loyalty.

k… my anti-stereotyping alarms are going off left-and-right with this statement.

As the topic was Burma I was thinking of China’s treatment of Tibetans which was not all that dissimilar to the junta’s tactics in Burma. Given the physical vastness of China and its huge and diverse peoples I don’t know that I even could stereotype it, even if I wanted to.

Heading off to bed…. see ya all tomorrow…

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{fdl pups}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

This will solve everything:

Marines train corporals to address stress
via L.A. Times – National News on 9/10/07
The first rank with responsibilities for others, they are taught to recognize the signs, intervene.

CAMP PENDLETON — The names — while comic — were meant to reflect an unfunny reality: the sometimes overbearing stress felt by Marines and sailors serving in Iraq.

wigwam @ 97

TexBetsy @ 36

Our good friend AlTheSpook (Alfred) says hi from Japan, where it’s 2pm on Wednesday.

So, like, is he going to come back?

To the US? yes.
To FDL? probably not.

Night Katymine!

CTuttle @ 94

Suzanne @ 90

CT, feel free to toss some change into the jar if you feel you must.

I’ve got a shiny ND Quarter…!!!

not my favorite Zep song by a long stretch, but appropriately titled nonetheless: “No Quarter”

Alright, a German song that brought a Wall down…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taVW8Kv2HcQ

Blub @ 89

Suzanne @ 80

Since when is ‘oh fuck‘ called swift resistance?

Swift resistance from this WH is pretty much “9/11! 9/11! 9/11! Fear! Fear! Fear!”.. the official warning out today of a brand spankin’ new AQ plot to *gasp* infiltrate operatives into the US, was simply hilarious

There we go, “the official warning out today”. When a dog farts, do you listen?

BTW: that a rhetoical question with a generic “you”.

One last comment, and then I really am out of here.

TPM has the statutory language for the alleged FISA “fix.”

TexBetsy @ 101

wigwam @ 97

So, like, is he going to come back?

To the US? yes.
To FDL? probably not.

Night Katymine!

DAMN!!

night Burns.

Suzanne @ 66

Saw the sign in front of church in town this weekend – said having the right does not make it right.

There’s a church here in Grand Rapids, MI. That has had signs since the Shrub started stumping to go into iraq in 2002, early 2003. WAGE PEACE in large white letters, blue background.

I used ot live with a mom(hippie) and daughter(tempermental artist and one of my best friends) that had one of their own. ^^ I can honestly say i’d have one of my own if i thought the landlords of my apartment complex wouldn’t go into apoplexy over it.

Sleep well & sweet dreams katymine – time for me to head off to bed too. Niters all!

burnspbesq @ 105

One last comment, and then I really am out of here.

TPM has the statutory language for the alleged FISA “fix.”

WOW!! Thanks. This doesn’t look good on a quick glance.

wigwam @ 105

TexBetsy @ 101

To the US? yes.
To FDL? probably not.

Night Katymine!

DAMN!!

You do have his linky to his swarm of blogs, right???

wigwam @ 111

burnspbesq @ 105

One last comment, and then I really am out of here.

TPM has the statutory language for the alleged FISA “fix.”

WOW!! Thanks. This doesn’t look good on a quick glance.

fuck

TexBetsy @ 106

night Burns.

newspaperbrat @ 108

Sleep well & sweet dreams katymine – time for me to head off to bed too. Niters all!

Nite, Ma’am’s…!!! *g*

CTuttle @ 110

wigwam @ 105

DAMN!!

You do have his linky to his swarm of blogs, right???

In fact, “no”. Where would I get it? Thanks.

Uhoh, Suz…!!! *g*

wigwam @ 114

CTuttle @ 110

You do have his linky to his swarm of blogs, right???

In fact, “no”. Where would I get it? Thanks.

can start here and he lists them in the right hand sidebar

Wigwam…

http://spookinthemachine.blogs…..-till.html

CTuttle @ 111

wigwam @ 105

DAMN!!

You do have his linky to his swarm of blogs, right???

***
CT, I check Al’s blogs often but can’t find any that’s been updated since 9/24. Do you know when he might start back, particularly with my favorite, “Ratiocinations…”?

sorry, my pain levels are up and that tends to increase the fuck factor.

Suzanne @ 115

wigwam @ 114

In fact, “no”. Where would I get it? Thanks.

can start here and he lists them in the right hand sidebar

Dang, I thought I could distract ya…!!!

http://spookinthemachine.blogspot.com/

Suzanne, here’s a $5 bill. Go wild with the swear words!

CD @ 117

CTuttle @ 111

You do have his linky to his swarm of blogs, right???

***
CT, I check Al’s blogs often but can’t find any that’s been updated since 9/24. Do you know when he might start back, particularly with my favorite, “Ratiocinations…”?

The linky I posted had a Oct. 5 date…

http://ratiocinatonsofasavageheart.blogspot.com/

TexBetsy @ 121

Suzanne, here’s a $5 bill. Go wild with the swear words!

You’re such an Enabler, Ma’am!!! *g*

fuck the fucking yankees.. how much i got left tex?

CTuttle @ 125

TexBetsy @ 121

Suzanne, here’s a $5 bill. Go wild with the swear words!

You’re such an Enabler, Ma’am!!! *g*

I prefer the word FRIEND.

OT: All you costume drama queens: Elizabeth the Golden Age opens friday

Suzanne @ 125

fuck the fucking yankees.. how much i got left tex?

I think Burns remarked last nite, that, Gilly must be smiling…!!! Woo-Hoo!!!

Suzanne @ 116

wigwam @ 114

In fact, “no”. Where would I get it? Thanks.

can start here and he lists them in the right hand sidebar

I’ve got to say that his stuff about the nukes over the midwest was like a serialized Tom Clancy novel with the (frightening) dimension of likely reality thrown in.

On matters of nuclear sparing, he has been there and done that, and gives an excellent perspective. (I have other friends who were involved in that business roughly 30 years ago.)

smapdi @ 128

OT: All you costume drama queens: Elizabeth the Golden Age opens friday

Hey – costume heavy or not, the first one was a superior film.

The last film I saw was Shrek 2, and before that, Shrek 1.

Dang! I missed the GOP debate and re-play. I got a glimpse of them between rehearsals earlier today, and couldn’t read through the threads. But I’m confused. Did they really make the candidates wear two wetsuits and speak through a snorkel while tied to the ceiling? Sounds even weirder than the Dem YouTube debate…

wigwam @ 129

Suzanne @ 116

can start here and he lists them in the right hand sidebar

I’ve got to say that his stuff about the nukes over the midwest was like a serialized Tom Clancy novel with the (frightening) dimension of likely reality thrown in.

On matters of nuclear sparing, he has been there and done that, and gives an excellent perspective. (I have other friends who were involved in that business roughly 30 years ago.)

Dr. Hillhouse is just as bone-chilling…

http://www.thespywhobilledme.com/

(laughing) hey et

Suzanne @ 131

The last film I saw was Shrek 2, and before that, Shrek 1.

Ooh! A Night Owl…!!! *g*

it’s raining steadily in the East Bay.

smapdi @ 128

OT: All you costume drama queens: Elizabeth the Golden Age opens friday

I saw the first movie in England on my first trip. Love that little cinema we saw it in. So this? Is a must see for me.

well, my back is screaming loud enough to shout out TDS – I’m off to soak it in a hot bath to try to quiet it down.

The first storm of the year is here and it is pouring down rain… glad token watered the redwoods out front before it started raining.

punaise @ 137

it’s raining steadily in the East Bay.

it’s raining steadily in the West Bay.

Suzanne @ 135

(laughing) hey et

Those kooks shoulda taken the YouTube offer when it came by. How far over the shark do the GOP Prez candidates have to jump before they look like a reality show proposal that ended up in the bottom of a second-string producer’s waste basket?

newtonusr @ 140

punaise @ 137

it’s raining steadily in the East Bay.

it’s raining steadily in the West Bay.

and prolly in the 707 as well

A SF classic…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1zsUIosoA

newtonusr @ 140

punaise @ 137

it’s raining steadily in the East Bay.

it’s raining steadily in the West Bay.

Clear, but starting to blow about 10 knots here, which is keeping the temperature at around 30 degrees F.

Ed*ard Teller @ 133

Dang! I missed the GOP debate and re-play. I got a glimpse of them between rehearsals earlier today, and couldn’t read through the threads. But I’m confused. Did they really make the candidates wear two wetsuits and speak through a snorkel while tied to the ceiling? Sounds even weirder than the Dem YouTube debate…

good dose of snark at salon.com:

What you missed while watching “Oprah”

Salon watches the latest Republican debate (economy special) so you don’t have to. Chevron down! Alcoa up! And Fred Thompson goes public.

By Michael Scherer

persiflage @ 98

As the topic was Burma I was thinking of China’s treatment of Tibetans which was not all that dissimilar to the junta’s tactics in Burma. Given the physical vastness of China and its huge and diverse peoples I don’t know that I even could stereotype it, even if I wanted to.

sorry… misunderstood. I can’t argue with that.

For what it’s worth, apparently the Chinese thugocracy (as opposed to our own thugocracy) is good at a few things… http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/…..index.html
apparently, their FEMA actually works. go figure.

Suzanne @ 138

well, my back is screaming loud enough to shout out TDS – I’m off to soak it in a hot bath to try to quiet it down.

The first storm of the year is here and it is pouring down rain… glad token watered the redwoods out front before it started raining.

Bonne Nuit, Ma Cheri…!!!

Time for me to get some sleep. Night all!

Sleep well Suzanne.

TexBetsy @ 78

GOP Opposes Attempt To Revise Wiretap Law
from wa po politics by Ellen Nakashima

A House Democratic effort to revise the nation’s new foreign intelligence surveillance law met swift resistance yesterday from the White House, Republican lawmakers and even some party members.

Great, let the six-month disaster expire and give this Preznit no authority at all.

punaise @ 39

from the home-town rag:
Pelosi says Democrats must do more to stop the war

Zachary Coile, Chronicle Washington Bureau

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, talking on the eve of the fifth anniversary of the House vote to authorize the Iraq war, acknowledged Tuesday that the failure to end the war is hurting Democrats in Congress and lawmakers will have to take bolder action.

The San Francisco Democrat, in a wide-ranging lunch discussion with reporters, said her party’s successes in passing domestic legislation – such as raising the minimum wage and helping make college more affordable – were being overshadowed.

“It is in fact true, though, that the war has eclipsed everything,” she said. “While I’m very proud of the ratings that Democrats have on every issue we can name, I don’t disagree with the public evaluation that we have not done well in ending this war.”

The comments echoed some of the criticisms made by anti-war activists and some lawmakers, who have urged House Democratic leaders to take a more confrontational approach with the White House, by cutting off money for the war.
…

It appears that on matters of security and foreign policy Pelosi has turned over the speakership to the American Likud, specifically Rahm Emanuel. Per Glenn Greenwald:

But it seems that there are important House Democrats really ready to fight on these issues, to prevent Steny Hoyer and Rahm Emanuel (who unfortunately seem to be the real Speakers of the House) from conniving like they did in August to manipulate their caucus into supporting something far worse.

Emphasis mine.

Blub @ 146

persiflage @ 98

As the topic was Burma I was thinking of China’s treatment of Tibetans which was not all that dissimilar to the junta’s tactics in Burma….

sorry… misunderstood. I can’t argue with that.

…

can’t take a Junta Hint, eh? therein lie the Roots of the problem… :~)

TexBetsy @ 148

Sleep well Suzanne.

You Too, Ma’am!!!

punaise @ 150

Blub @ 146

sorry… misunderstood. I can’t argue with that.

…

can’t take a Junta Hint, eh? therin lie the Roots of the problem… :~)

*groan* The Soviets were in the same situation…!!!

TeddySanFran @ 150

TexBetsy @ 78

GOP Opposes Attempt To Revise Wiretap Law
from wa po politics by Ellen Nakashima

A House Democratic effort to revise the nation’s new foreign intelligence surveillance law met swift resistance yesterday from the White House, Republican lawmakers and even some party members.

Great, let the six-month disaster expire and give this Preznit no authority at all.

IIRC, Pelosi has the ability not to let this come to a vote. Also, 41 senators can prevent it from coming to a vote in the Senate.

How about some leadership for a change?

omg — Lynne Cheney is going to be Jon Stewart’s guest tomorrow night!?!

TeddySanFran @ 156

omg — Lynne Cheney is going to be Jon Stewart’s guest tomorrow night!?!

Jon is quite the masochist.

Jon should have known she has no power unless he invites her over his threshold!

Ps Anyone else watch ‘49 up’ on pbs?

Blub @ 146

persiflage @ 98

As the topic was Burma I was thinking of China’s treatment of Tibetans which was not all that dissimilar to the junta’s tactics in Burma. Given the physical vastness of China and its huge and diverse peoples I don’t know that I even could stereotype it, even if I wanted to.

sorry… misunderstood. I can’t argue with that.

For what it’s worth, apparently the Chinese thugocracy (as opposed to our own thugocracy) is good at a few things… http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/…..index.html
apparently, their FEMA actually works. go figure.

No problem Blub, I realised too late that I wasn’t very clear in my original comment.

Yep, evacuating 1.4 million people is mind-boggling. That’s about the size of the city I live in and we can’t even go to the beach without traffic jams, if we all had to leave at once, it would be chaos.

CTuttle @ 134

wigwam @ 129

I’ve got to say that his stuff about the nukes over the midwest was like a serialized Tom Clancy novel with the (frightening) dimension of likely reality thrown in.

On matters of nuclear sparing, he has been there and done that, and gives an excellent perspective. (I have other friends who were involved in that business roughly 30 years ago.)

Dr. Hillhouse is just as bone-chilling…

http://www.thespywhobilledme.com/

Wow. Thanks CT. Good stuff.

smapdi @ 158

Jon should have known she has no power unless he invites her over his threshold!

Ps Anyone else watch ‘49 up’ on pbs?

I recorded it, but probably won’t get to watch it until the weekend. Got hooked on this series a couple of updates back.

No Problemo, Wigwam!!!

TheOtherWA @ 160

smapdi @ 158

Jon should have known she has no power unless he invites her over his threshold!

Ps Anyone else watch ‘49 up’ on pbs?

I recorded it, but probably won’t get to watch it until the weekend. Got hooked on this series a couple of updates back.

Enthralling.

smapdi @ 156

Jon should have known she has no power unless he invites her over his threshold!

Ps Anyone else watch ‘49 up’ on pbs?

Ooh, is it after Nova, the POV special…???

newtonusr @ 157

TeddySanFran @ 156

omg — Lynne Cheney is going to be Jon Stewart’s guest tomorrow night!?!

Jon is quite the masochist.

No way in hell. He is the scariest man on TV. Imagine trying to argue with him, even when he’s wrong (which isn’t often).

I want JS to ask Lynn why she really wrote that lesbian western. I double dog dare him!
(just in case he’s reading here, haha)

Aah, it is…! I shall bid a fond adieu to the Lake! Aloha Oe!!!

CTuttle @ 164

smapdi @ 156

Jon should have known she has no power unless he invites her over his threshold!

Ps Anyone else watch ‘49 up’ on pbs?

Ooh, is it after Nova, the POV special…???

Yes. Everytime I hear something about class on the teevee, I know that show wasnt produced here.

Night CT.

Said Madison to Jefferson on May 13, 1798:

Perhaps it is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.

Who says shrub only hates children? Turns out he hates families too.. Dear Leader is now threatening to veto the affordable housing bill, ’cause his existing programs are “good enough”… dipshite

Good morning

Good morning, egregious.

Hey Lindy!

Waking up early, or hitting the hay late?

Waking up early, of course. and you?

good morning.

Reassuring to know we have laura on Burma’s case, eh? Good she was able to wrap up her Afghanistan initiatives.

Early bird here.

yoo hoo

New Raven call? Good morning.

Good Morning, Firepups!

It’s partly cloudy and cool here in central Jersey. The cold front pushed through yesterday, bringing some much-needed rain [will try to send some South where it’s really needed!], and drastically lowering temperatures. It managed to get to well into the 80s yesterday before the winds shifted and the new air mass moved into town.

Young Ezra Klein from TAPPED had a very passionate post up last evening about the rightwing attack on the Frost family, with three follow up posts here and here and here.

The coffee’s hot, the water is ready for tea, and herb biscuits are coming out of the oven. Pour yourself a mug and set a spell.

Work for peace, every day.

Lindy @ 179

New Raven call? Good morning.

Yea, I thought I step up from “yo”!

morning!

raven @ 181

Lindy @ 179

New Raven call? Good morning.

Yea, I thought I step up from “yo”!

But you’ll still say yo in place of zed?

heh.

I’m about ready to go stand guard at the Frost house. This is outrageous. and it reminds me of those words, “they came for the jews, but I am not jewish and said nothing” where “they” finally come for the rest of us.

Lindy @ 184

heh.

I’m about ready to go stand guard at the Frost house. This is outrageous. and it reminds me of those words, “they came for the jews, but I am not jewish and said nothing” where “they” finally come for the rest of us.

if i lived nearby, i would be sorely tempted to organize a vigil / peace guard (only with the parents permission, of course)…

Thanks njp. I’ll have green tea chai – settles the stomach in unsettling times.

Good morning, pups. Today in the NYT we have MoDo and Friedman. MoDo takes on Hillary and her Iran vote. Mr. Friedman is confused by today’s college students. He says they’re wonderfully optimistic and idealistic, but less radical and politically involved than they should be.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee and tea are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. Have a good day.

1,623 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..

Citizens selise, Lindy and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:

Yes indeed, a vigil/peace guard, it has indeed come to that and I guess I am surprised that those in the Frost’s community have not wrapped ‘em up in the arms of real community and family values…it shows how far our senses of community and responsibility for others have decayed in the last 25 years.

Lindy, you are absolutely right to think of the poem (Reinhold Neibur?) about when they finally come for us…this isn’t jest a bad dream, a passing “bump in the road”, this is the real deal with real sociopathic leaders and amoral ruling elites who have committed everything to destroying the fabric of community and the institutions that bind us together in our diversity. If we don’t set up vigils and peace guards for each other and take the threats of these bastards seriously, we’ll all be sharin’ stories on the way ta Guantanamo.

KEEP THE FAITH AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER…THAT’S THE FIRST STEP IN FIGHTIN’ BACK!!

reminder and update on fisa:

the house judiciary and intelligence committees yesterday scheduled markup hearings for today on new fisa legislation.

the HJC hearing will be webcast (i confimed with the committee yesterday) and is scheduled to covered live by c-span2.

10:15 am – House Judiciary
Markup of: H.R. 3773 the “Responsible Electronic Surveillance That is Overseen, Reviewed, and Effective Act of 2007″

the text of the bill is not yet up on thomas, but the HJC has posted a pdf (for links and details, see the weekly hearing list – scroll down).

i’m concerned that this is being rushed through before we’ve had time to read the bill, to organize and to contact our reps. the hearings were scheduled yesterday, the text of the bill was released yesterday. why must the hearings be today (rather than, say tomorrow or next week?)

press release from the HJC
press release from EFF.

i plan to make an audio recording of the HJC hearing and post it as a podcast for anyone who can’t listen live today.

[grabs a mug of coffee and a biscuit]

Gotta run, pups!

Be excellent to one another!

smapdi – no, that’s not Budgie playing 2/3 into the song (although it is a fairly decent facsimile )

Good Morning. IRT Malkin, when the Armstrong Williams scandal broke (and then promptly disappeared), he made the remark that he’s one of many getting paid by this adm. to further their agenda. Well, I’m betting Ms.Malkin is on their payroll.

NorskeFlamethrower @ 188

TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER…THAT’S THE FIRST STEP IN FIGHTIN’ BACK!!

sometimes you really remind me of what i’ve read of gandhi… he seemed to think his “constructive” program (taking care of eachother) was even more important than and required for his “obstructive” program (fightin’ back!!).

Good morning, all! I continue to be horrified by the assault by the “right” (who are so wrong!) on the Frosts. My husband and I are both self-employed, and our health insurance premiums here in Maine are close to ruinous. We’ve gotta find some other option. Nice that the powers want to means-test s-chip, and at the same time have made bankruptcy protection immeasurably more difficult for those poor souls who use up all their resources in a health emergency! (oh, yes, and Tony Snow can’t make it on $160,000 a year! I’ll never see that level of income in this lifetime. Not that I’d volunteer for his ailments, but the last time I looked, we are not given the choice.)

O/T – how do I find LoudonLib (or, indeed, anyone?) on Facebook? I am not clear on navigating that site yet, old crock that I am. I have an account … and can be emailed at spayvet at adelphia dot net. TIA.

I’m totally confused about the FISA bill. Is the Progressive Caucus hanging tough or not? What happened to the bill they supposedly wrote?

Yesterday there was good news at DKos about a bill written in conjunction with the ACLU. Was that incorrect info? The diary is gone.

Good morning, Everybody,

Because I work with kids, mostly boys this age, I am having trouble controlling my outrage at those who attack this kid and his family.

I am in the process of fighting for fundamental needs for children who are in wheelchairs, use walkers, have emotional disabilities, mental illnesses, have extra trouble with words or numbers. This is in a public school, mind you, in a town that has passed overrides for public education. It has accepted one of the highest tax burdens in the state (no industry) and still, I’m talking basics.

I cannot believe that Republicans have sunk this low. It is beyond decency. They would deny the basic need for health care to working American families. They have built an embassy in Iraq with money that belongs to America’s children. And true to form, they attack those who have the nerve to tell the truth.

George Bush and his horrible underlings are bleeding America and Iraq of life, spirit and the pursuit of happiness.

George Bush and his horrible underlings have a death grip on decency. These thieves have amassed their fortunes by stealing from our schools, our medical system, our elderly, our imprisoned work force, our veterans.

I want to stay alive, working with these kids long enough to see the nation act as if it cares about its own.

Who do these “lawmakers” think they are?

FISA, SCHMISA.

Sen. Charles “You’d Better Not Get Between Me and a Camera” Schumer has bigger fish to fry -
like flight delays at the 72nd busiest airport in the country.

selise @ 189

reminder and update on fisa:

why must the hearings be today (rather than, say tomorrow or next week?)

Why indeed.

Yes there was a parting of the ways between her and Budgie. That has to adversely affect everything she’s done in his absence in the studio or on stage.

Lindy @ 184

heh.

I’m about ready to go stand guard at the Frost house. This is outrageous. and it reminds me of those words, “they came for the jews, but I am not jewish and said nothing” where “they” finally come for the rest of us.

Please give us a report on what the situation is like when you get back. Thanks!

My heart just aches for this family for what they have been forced to go thru………and I’m not hearing any pushback from the POS Dims who used them. Has anyone else?

solai @ 195

I’m totally confused about the FISA bill. Is the Progressive Caucus hanging tough or not? What happened to the bill they supposedly wrote?

i think it’s confusing because it’s all still up in the air, and all of a sudden it’s being rushed (again)

here’s my understanding so far – the progressive caucus didn’t write the bill, they wrote a list of requirements for any bill. we don’t know if they will hang tough.

there is a bill that was written, i think, by members of the house judiciary and intelligence committees (called the RESTORE ACT). that is the bill that is scheduled for the markup hearings today. the text of the bill was just released late yesterday. i haven’t read it yet, and i’m hoping that one of the lawyers here will (that’s why i posted the links).

there’s also a bill written by rush holt called the FISA Modernization Bill (H.R.3782) which the ACLU is advocating for (press release).

both bills (holt’s and the RESTORE ACT) were introduced yesterday, and sent to the judiciary and intelligence committees – but only the RESTORE ACT is scheduled for markup today. here’s a bit from the ACLU:

Two bills were introduced yesterday to fix the disastrous Protect America Act that was rushed through Congress in August, rubberstamping the administration’s warrantless wiretapping program. Both were efforts to fix FISA, but we must make it clear that only the FISA Modernization Bill does the job.

The RESTORE Act caves in to Bush’s fear-mongering in a major way by allowing for program or basket “warrants,” which aren’t really warrants at all. They’re the modern-day equivalent of allowing government agents to sit in our living rooms, recording our personal conversations. Only they’re more frightening, because the government now has the capacity to monitor us remotely and without our knowledge, and to save the information in a secret database forever.

there is also supposed to be a senate bill that is worse than the house’s RESTORE ACT (but i haven’t tracked down what’s going on in the senate yet as i think the action will be mostly in the house).

Is there a report of people harassing the Frosts? I’ve read Malkin, read what Rush said etc., but are people actually going to their home and harassing them?

Boston1775 @ 197 –

i don’t know what to say, other than you are the exact opposite of malkin et al…. and so long as there are people like you, the kids have a chance. please hang in there and let us know if there is anything we can do to help.

Thanks, Selise. As always, your info is valuable.

On a brighter note, Lynne Cheney will be on The Daily Show tonight. I can’t imagine how Jon Stewart is going to handle that. Or the audience.
One more thing, Colbert did a bit last night about the NYT article on torture. Then he showed clips of all the Sunday morning news shows where it was never mentioned. We need more of this. The media is letting us down and they need to be mocked.

solai -

On the subject of mocking……..have you seen the claymation (sp?) that’s out on craig, set to the tune of “YMCA”? Total hoot. *g*

egregious @ 183

raven @ 181

Yea, I thought I step up from “yo”!

But you’ll still say yo in place of zed?

Fer shure, zed annoys me.

Waccamaw @ 207

solai -

On the subject of mocking……..have you seen the claymation (sp?) that’s out on craig, set to the tune of “YMCA”? Total hoot. *g*

I did. Was that on Olbermann last night? I think that’s where I saw it.

solai @ 206

On a brighter note, Lynne Cheney will be on The Daily Show tonight. I can’t imagine how Jon Stewart is going to handle that. Or the audience.
One more thing, Colbert did a bit last night about the NYT article on torture. Then he showed clips of all the Sunday morning news shows where it was never mentioned. We need more of this. The media is letting us down and they need to be mocked.

Wonder if Stewart will be as hard on Lynne Cheney as he tried to be on Chris Matthews. Or will Stewart go easy as he has on people like Bill Kristol (who helpled start a war). I thought it was telling when Chris Matthews asked Stewart to come on Hardball and Stewart crawled out the back door. Telling.

It will be interesting to see if Stewart plays Hardball with Lynne Cheney, who also helped start the war in Iraq.

solai @ 203

Is there a report of people harassing the Frosts? I’ve read Malkin, read what Rush said etc., but are people actually going to their home and harassing them?

According to Trex “Malkin goes stalkin” yes. Last post…so creepy

A quick drive-by to say hi to everyone, and wish everyone the best of all possible todays.

I think he will be respectful toward her. And, she doesn’t deserve respect.

IRT Lynne Cheney: If I were Jon, I’d have a copy of her lesbian-lover book handy to talk about that.

solai @ 209

Waccamaw @ 207

solai -

On the subject of mocking……..have you seen the claymation (sp?) that’s out on craig, set to the tune of “YMCA”? Total hoot. *g*

I did. Was that on Olbermann last night? I think that’s where I saw it.

Yeh, and joeblow had it on this morning…..love it when stuff like this actually shows up on the idjit box b/c I can’t watch it on-line with dail-up.

Off to get ready for work, but I have a feeling I’ll be checking in to see what’s going on w/FISA.

solai @ 213

I think he will be respectful toward her. And, she doesn’t deserve respect.

If he is respectful towards Lynne Cheney as he has been with Bill Kristol, two people who helped start an illegal and immoral war. That will tell all about Stewart. He was willing to attack Chris Matthews because he did not like the premise of his book….Stewart really has his priorities…and those priorities appear to be twisted.

That will tell all about Stewart.

Yea, he’s a real right winger.

Christy’s first morning thread is ready!

Convenient Laundering?

persiflage @ 74

CTuttle @ 63

Ask the Chinese…!!!

Asking the Chinese about ethics is like asking Joe Lieberman about loyalty.

Oh really! You want to qualify that? Are you referring 1/4 billion people?

mui @ 220

persiflage @ 74

Asking the Chinese about ethics is like asking Joe Lieberman about loyalty.

Oh really! You want to qualify that? Are you referring 1/4 billion people?

Scuse me a billion people? No ethics? And Confucious is. . . ?

TheOtherWA @ 166

I want JS to ask Lynn why she really wrote that lesbian western. I double dog dare him!
(just in case he’s reading here, haha)

Only AFTER he reads some select paragraphs from it a la Oprah’s Book CLUB! But that might drive the audience away…she’s a horridly pedestrian author for someone who tried to write a feminist bodice-ripper!

Kathleen @ 211

solai @ 203

Is there a report of people harassing the Frosts? I’ve read Malkin, read what Rush said etc., but are people actually going to their home and harassing them?

According to Trex “Malkin goes stalkin” yes. Last post…so creepy

And Malkin and the Freepers were talking about picketing their house! I bet they decided not to after actually looking at the fact that it is a row-house with a 20 foot streetlevel with NO front yard.

Take a look at the exterior and the similar place next door. The $240K appraisal on the place is clearly based on the INTERIOR work Mr. Frost has done through “sweat labor”. And I suspect that the $500K house sale on the “same street” must be a very different type of house.

I don’t think that Malkin wants to be seen on TV in a picket trying to imply that these folks are “rich”…the pictures would tell a very different story!

No one’s reading anymore, but Siouxsie can thank TRex for at least one sale of the MP3 version of the new album at Amazon. I didn’t even know there was new material out.

Yes, yes, my fellow frogs, this water is indeed getting warm, but dude – Instant Siouxsie album to my computer at work! Awesome!!!

selise @ 204

Boston1775 @ 197 –

i don’t know what to say, other than you are the exact opposite of malkin et al…. and so long as there are people like you, the kids have a chance. please hang in there and let us know if there is anything we can do to help.

Thanks selise,
I just had to put into words how completely crazy this all is. I love what I do. It is beyond me that I have to say that each and every one of these kids deserves their own doctor – a doctor who knows them, keeps records of their visits and cares about them.