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All hail The Prince of Darkness! Just look at the little tidbit he dropped off for us last week, courtesy of Bloggernista:
Conservative columnist Robert Novak said today that Republicans in the Senate knew about Larry Craig’s bathroom toe-tapping ways before the story break of his arrest in the Minneapolis airport, but they kept the story “in the closet.”
I have talked to several of my sources in the Senate, and this came as a surprise to me…They knew about it. They knew that he had this problem, and it was in the closet. And it was not just a homosexual relationship. It was this weird conduct. They didn’t do anything about it.
"They knew about it."
Do the Republicans really think that Larry Craig won't rub this in their faces if they try to use Senate ethics hearings to shame him out of office?
Do the Republicans really think that Larry Craig won't use those hearings to bring up similar behavior by his fellow Republicans?
They'd better think again.
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PW!
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He’d like to rub their faces somewhere else.
If Larry Craig is going to take it on the chin from the Senate Ethics Committee,
so should Diaper Dave.
Wait a minute — Novakula did something that wasn’t evil? I think I’m going to need another beer.
Aloha, Ya’ll! Dang, PW, you got the honors today since Jane is at the Ball Game??? Excellent posts!
Let’s recall that Mike Rogers got the name of Senator Larry Craig (R-ID) from a closeted GOP staffer seeking to “trade up” information on toilet sex with Craig. There are out gay staffers to the leadership team (Santorum, among others) who must have told their bosses.
Of course they knew. But it’s great to have confirmation from Novakula. How hated must he be!
Good evening PW. This is from TPM, but does not elaborate:
I read or heard somewhere earlier today that the GOP will censure Larry, but won’t kick him out. And as for Rove’s pal Novak? Well… he ought to know all about deception (keeping things quiet) and Republican chicanery.
Speaking of proper targets for the Ethics Committe, how about Richard Shelby ?
Or has the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body decided that
going around to CIA stations trying to foment a “revolution” in the agency
is acceptable behavior?
Just asking.
I actually interpreted this “leak” as being a warning to Craig from the GOP about what information they have on him.
Of course, they did! Anybody who has worked for a living knows that if someone’s got this kind of secret, someone, and possibly many someones, knows about it or has a “feeling” about it, or it’s the worst kept secret. I would venture to say, there are very few members of Congress that don’t have some people within their inner sactums knowing more about them than others thought they knew. It’s not that big a town and the people involved are way too well connected!
ok, i’m obviously confused.
i thought richard perle was the prince of darkness and robert novak was the douchebag of liberty.
there’s just too much important information to keep up with…
Rob Zuber, you might be right but I tink Craig has already made it clear he doesn’t care; he’s ruined anyway. He’s doubling down..
Has Leslie Stahl of 60 Minutes done a story on Larry Craig yet?
Or is Stahl stalling on the stall story?
Strange, how this didn’t seem to get any traction.
Just like his “recipe”, he was signaling that he knows the scoop on all of them too, and staying is reinforcing it - he’s gonna get them. This might get real interesting. Popcorn.
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Watching the GOP swirl down the toobz, I see…
white punks on dope
hang myself when I get enough rope
just don’t take us with you, wpod
selise @ 16
PW - do give that last link a look (cool pic from the daily show).
Yeah baby!! Pressure is on Blackwater! CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/.....index.html
TeddySanFran @ 10
Washington’s power elites are often referred to as the village. Members of this extended clique probably have heard all the stories and all the rumors. What’s more Larry Craig didn’t just turn gay or look for sex in restrooms just as David Vitter didn’t just start seeing prostitutes. These are behaviors that have been going on for years and their colleagues would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to know.
kirk murphy @ 22
For The Uninitiated
kirk murphy @ 22
a dream date in kneepads with Senator Larry Craig!
Hugh @ 25
Right, Hugh. Denny Hastert and his knowledge of Mark Foley’s sickness also come to mind.
There’s always the Gannon Cannon. I’ve always wondered if he’s been keeping some ammo dry.
raven @ 26
On OGWT, no less. They didn’t translate that well, IMO. We already had these guys
Joe Wilson called Robert Novak a “chronic liar”
Throw some water on Novak maybe he will melt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwojbxw7014
What a world what a world I’m melting
Hmmm. I’m going to disagree with the thesis here. I think that Larry Craig has a penchant for restroom sex, and I think that a LOT of people knew about it. But I don’t think Larry Craig will use this to his advantage. I don’t think he even can. I think this man is so far in denial that it wouldn’t even occur to him. I don’t think he can even admit–even to himself–that he has sex with other men.
As for the coming ethics probe, I’m not expecting much. I suspect that they’ll just bury it. The Dems don’t need to push the issue, and the Repubs don’t want to.
PeteCO @ 30
WE had the Who!
PeteCO @ 19
Slippery topic.
Oh yeah, they knew.
The question is how did they know…
The next question is how did they use their knowledge?
They’ve been listening in on all kinds of stuff for a very long time now. Did they get this knowledge from spying on Craig? or did he simply wide stance one of the out community?
And once they learned, did they corral him into voting in a certain fashion, and on what votes? This is a guy whose constituency is very distrustful of government, lots of libertarians; did he vote Repug more often than he would have serving that constituency because he was pressured to do so?
And the next question that follows…
What other members of Congress are likewise compromised, unbeknown to us?
When Robert Novak was interviewed by Diane Rehm, I had never heard so many Lies.
http://wamu.org/programs/dr/07/08/06.php
Well Paul Bremer and John Bolton, and Novak are all probably tied for first place.
I am sad for Mrs. Craig and their children.
raven @ 33
AND Led Zeppelin! AND The Stones! ;)
Rayne, I suspect that they’re all blackmailing each other, and that the admin is blackmailing the whole lot of them.
PeteCO @ 38
And Blue Cheer and the Seeds.
Frank Probst @ 32
‘Tis a puzzlement.
TexBetsy @ 11
Ha!
OMG, pups!
Just found the ultimate key to the neo-cons….
almost one-third of century ago, the oracles foretold:
oh…TNTC = “too numerous to count”
Beyonce Welch @ 37
Me too, but maybe they know but love him anyway; one never knows what goes on behind closed closet doors.
raven @ 40
Never ‘erd of ‘em. There was a bunch of scousers who were alright, I seem to remember…
LS @ 44
That could be taken a number of ways.
OT, BUT FRUSTRATING
Democratic Concessions Are Expected on Wiretapping
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10.....mp;emc=rss
from NYT > Home Page by ERIC LICHTBLAU and CARL HULSE
Bush administration officials say they are confident they will win approval of the broadened wiretapping authority that they secured temporarily in August as Congress rushed toward recess.
Why do I get the feeling that Novak has toe-tapped the Battle Hymn of the Republic before in an airport bathroom?
I think Novak knows a lot more than he’s really telling us.
TexBetsy @ 47
Hey TexB!
I’m not really surprised at this, the wiretapping worked so well they’ve got enough dirt to make sure they get the votes they want to keep on keeping on.
KayInMaine @ 48
Not “Onward Christian Soldiers”?
Beyonce Welch @ 37
Are there any minor children? What did Mrs. Craig know and when did she know it? Republican policies that Craig supported hurt most Americans. Feel sorry for his old lady b/c her not gay husband has been found out? Not me. Craig is a nasty bad boy - worse than Bill Clinton whom he sanctimoniously crucified thusly on teevee.
PeteCO @ 50
Another good one! ;-)
PeteCO @ 45
Blue Cheer was maybe the first “metal band” with an awesome version of Summertime Blues
The Seeds had a great hit Pushin To Hard, the original garage band.
A week or two ago in “City Paper” (?) a give away tabloid in Wash. DC there was an interview with Mike Rogers and he said he had ANOTHER Republican ready to be outed.
For those who misssed it the other night, our very own Louisiana toe-tapper has made the national blogs.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....enate-bid/
David Robinson @ 54
I hope it’s Karl Rove, because that would so make my entire year!
TexBetsy @ 47
“We are giving the N.S.A. what it legitimately needs for national security but with far more limitations and protections than are in the Protect America Act,” said Brendan Daly, a spokesman for Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California.
Sheer, unadulterated Fuckery!!!
Rayne @ 35
All of them
Remember when the reich wingers of the nation were freaking about the penguin movie? Maybe it was because of the toe-tapping & dancing in the movie? Hey, could be. Reich wingers probably couldn’t sit through it with their kids from all the arousal and whatnot.
hackworth @ 51
2 children, I believe, both grown, neither one his biologically. Evidently these sorts of stories surfaced before, and the last time he married one of his staffers soon after, complete with ready-made family.
If Jane is at the game she is not a happy camper.
gordon Brown on Iran
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...../07/wiran1
07.xml
Coming Oct 16 “Cheney’s Law”
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/cheney/
Part 3 of Why Hasn’t the Senate Ethics Committe Dealt With These Sleazebags?:
Lindsey Graham and John Kyl
kirk murphy @ 43
As we’re on the subject of prescient lyrics, check this out.
Riesz Fischer @ 64
Kathleen @ 61
Next thing you know they’ll come out with a “Cheney alert”– a fake terrorist alert to rally the base. And they’ll think up some dumb way to make it an acronym.
TexBetsy @ 47
Okay, time to light up the phones tomorrow! Hell, you might want to start tonight — fill up their answering machines and send them faxes!
Look up your Congresscritters here:
http://www.house.gov
http://www.senate.gov
Use this as your cheat sheet:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/g.....rats_fisa/
oops
PW–
Offtopic, but I think that in future health care discussions, you should consider what krugman says here:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.c.....gle-payer/
His central point is that the democratic plans seem needlessly complicated, and keep insurance companies in the loop (as atrios has repeatedly noted) but that all the democratic plans include a government plan option.
I think he’s right about this–that it will just be a matter of time before most consumers ditch the insurance companies. They know that too, so this will be a huge fight.
It’d be good if we were all on the same page when the battle starts…..
As we’re on the subject of prescient lyrics, check this out.
Ah Frank:
Trouble Every Day
And it’s the same across the nation
Black and white discrimination
Yellin’ “You can’t understand me!”
‘N all that other jazz they hand me
In the papers and TV and
All that mass stupidity
That seems to grow more every day
Each time you hear some nitwit say
He wants to go and do you in
Because the color of your skin
Just don’t appeal to him
(No matter if it’s black or white)
Because he’s out for blood tonight
You know we got to sit around at home
And watch this thing begin
But I bet there won’t be many live
To see it really end
‘Cause the fire in the street
Ain’t like the fire in the heart
And in the eyes of all these people
Don’t you know that this could start
On any street in any town
In any state if any clown
Decides that now’s the time to fight
For some ideal he thinks is right
And if a million more agree
There ain’t no Great Society
As it applies to you and me
Our country isn’t free
And the law refuses to see
If all that you can ever be
Is just a lousy janitor
Unless your uncle owns a store
You know that five in every four
Just won’t amount to nothin’ more
Gonna watch the rats go across the floor
And make up songs about being poor
madmommy @ 60
Yupper.
I hadn’t heard that, but somehow it wouldn’t surprise me.
Phoenix Woman @ 65
thanks.. phone lighting time
Phoenix Woman @ 69
I’ve heard it from a number of different sources.
It cracks me up that the Repub spin of this was that when stuff like this happens Republicans take care of it and clean their own house… um guess not he is still there.
Now it turns out they knew about it all along.. haha.
And the priceless part is the fact that he is tied into some of these real scandels that are due to break as well. Criminals and Liars (damn Crooks and Liars already exists - good work guys).
Teddy, checked your link, but are you saying Rick Santorum is involved in this behavior or just knew about it?
Honey I’m home… did ya miss me?
Did the rethugs wake Novakula from his crypt to slime the Craigster in order to shame Craig into quitting?
And Craig may have some stories about other nasty bad boys?
Hi there katymine! How are ya?
Recovering…. 7 days inpatient… lovely 9 hours in the ER, 4 days post-operative….just was discharged this afternooon.
hackworth @ 75
Somehow I think Craig figures he has nothing to lose and is hardheaded enough to try to fight it out. He’s already been publicly humiliated, and now has the bane of the wingnuts, the ACLU representing him. Maybe he thinks he can take a few of his compadres down with him??
raven @ 68
Praise the Toobz! It starts around 6 minutes in;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MBn1EcTMvM
The notion of a threat to the US is 100% complete nonsense.
Can you see the Iranian landing boats on the beaches of Virgina, the Hamptons and Cape Cod? And of course the beach head a Malibu and Santa Barbara.
The long march of Iranians soldiers over the rockies, down in the great plains, over the Appalachians.
Finally American defeated and occupied by the foreign threat.
We got Sadam before his Special Guards could do the magic across the 48 lower states. We fought them there so we didn’t have to fight them here.
THERE IS NO THREAT TO AMERICA.
Will there be mischief? Massive mischief. Yes and forever. There will always be bank robberies, always be liquor store heists… random acts of violence by disgruntled individuals or groups. This will never stop. But it not a MILITARY threat to america. It is a sociological problem, and a police problem.
America is not now nor will it be under military siege.
But we will lose our country to fascists and corporations who will control our lives.
It’s happening now.
katymine @ 74
Hey How are you!
katymine @ 77
Ugh. ER’s are not the most pleasant place to spend time. Glad to hear you’re home and on the mend!
madmommy @ 82
agreed!
katymine @ 77
Wow! Glad you’re back to the lake! We even made you a welcome home basket.
katymine @ 77
Yikes! What happened?
Edwards on This Week
“no timeline, no funding, no excuse”
http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/News/story?id=466
TeddySanFran @ 58
It’s nothing new in the village. Our own Howie Klein has been writing about Craig, the Senate Minority Leader, Mini-Me(Lindsey Graham), and Patrick McHenry for a while now. Yes, that’s right, there are rumors that have been floating for a long time now that the three mentioned might be into the “Wide Stance” thing too. Go figure.
((((katymine)))) hope you recover quickly!
PeteCO @ 85
The tumor in my kidney decided it was going to make its presence known by nearly killing me. Bleeding, passing clots like a kidney stones, nearly being sent to ICU, emergency surgery at 6am on Thursday and trying not to give me transfusions because they are very hard on my remaining kidney.
I am home and there is a nice pot roast in the oven… dinner will be in an hour.
katymine @ 89
jesus
scares me!
I’m so glad you’re OK, katymine
Do you have cooking and household help katymine?
katymine @ 89
Jeez, I’m sorry to hear that. Get well soon.
Get well soon,
We need your kind in this struggle.
R&R and we got your back.
When you need.. ask the pups… we’re there!
(((hugging Katymine)))
TexBetsy @ 91
Yes I do…. I have the tech manager for ESPN Monday Night Football sitting it out here having a ruff time watching the game because he would have been in NY working the game except for my former tumor now named….. that sucker….
madmommy @ 78
I really think everyone’s overthinking this. It’s just pure denial. He’s in denial over the fact that he was soliciting sex in a men’s room. He’s in denial over the fact that he plead guilty to it. And he’s in denial over the fact that he announced his “intent” to resign. He’s not some grand schemer. He’s just a pathetic old man in denial.
This is definitely on topic wrt the village media:
Caught the last part of a panel of five WH journos on “Role of the WH Press Corps” moderated by (I think) Susan Page (USA Today) on C-Span this afternoon.
Have seldom heard a less self-aware bunch of ____________ (supply your own descriptor)…………….tho’ republics are even less so.
The very last audience question came from a woman with a noticeable (what I am sure some of the panel took to be) “hick” accent. She said something to the effect of, “In the secret? dark? middle of the heartland? country, you are not loved.” I thought, “Oh, bells, she’s going to end all this bs with a ‘liberal’ rant.”
No, dear pups……….not so. She went on to tell them that we the people think the WH media are not doing their jobs; they are not digging to get the full story. Oooooo, touched a nerve with several of the sanctimonious twits, she did. *g*
They apparently like to think of themselves as rottweilers (sp?) when, in fact, most of them have about as much bite as a dead snake.
Star Spangled Banner
Jib Jab
http://www.jibjab.com/originals/star_spangled
katymine @ 95
Now that’s devotion! So the tumor is a goner?
So… other than the SCHIP veto … what else has been going on?
Hospital TeeVee had TWO Faux channels but NO MSNBC… ER TeeVee was tuned to all those judge shows…. asked the ER doc for an order for brain bleach flush to clear all that crap out of my brains. That was when they ordered the psych consult……
Hi Raven,
I’ll match your Zappa, and ante up some Tower of Power:
There’s only so much oil on the ground
Sooner or later there won’t be much around
Tell that to your kids while you driving downtown
That there’s only so much oil on the ground
Can’t cut loose without that juice
Can’t cut loose without that juice
If we keep on like we doing things for sure
Will not be cool - It’s a fact
We just ain’t got sufficient fuel
There’s only so much oil in the ground
Sooner or later there won’t be none around
Alternate sources of power must be found
Cause there’s only so much oil in the ground
There’s only so much oil in the earth
It’s a fact of life - for what it’s worth
Something every little boy and girl should know since birth
That there’s only so much oil in the ground
There’s no excuse for our abuse
No excuse for our abuse
We just assume that we will not
Exceed the oil supply
But soon enough the world will watch the wells run dry.
katymine @ 74
(((katymine)))
The Goopers are using Novakula to send a message to Craig - No Protection if you stay.
When the Foley Scandal broke, Craig and Allard were two of the prominent names that surfaced as being ‘hypocritical’ anti-gay Senators, along with a reputed 60 Republican Congressmen and women.
Craig has the dirt.
What Craig wants is a quid pro quo - he’ll leave the Senate, if the Senate makes the pending subpoena in the Wilkes case go away.
Ah, the dirty life - If you don’t cover me, I’ll burn you.