President Bush claims he vetoed SCHIP because it might encourage families above the poverty line to switch from private insurance plans they already have to government- funded SCHIP. But Bush misrepresents the choices facing both those with and those without private insurance. And he’s ignoring the fact that families already have strong reasons to leave private insurance if a decent alternative is presented.
Families in the income range at which SCHIP is directed — those between the poverty line and 200-250 percent of that level — cannot easily afford insurance unless its costs are mostly covered by their employers. But as insurance costs increase, more and more employers are dropping health insurance, or simply replacing full-time employees with part-time employees ineligible for benefits. That means that SCHIP has increasingly become part of the social safety net, ensuring that at least the children of families facing financial insecurity will still receive health care.
What about families with supposedly “secure” jobs that offer private plans? Here the Bush/Republican argument is getting a rhetorical free ride, because it assumes the preferable choice is always private insurance. But everyone who has had to deal with health insurance companies delaying or denying their claims knows that being insured can be as much a curse as a blessing.
As we’ve noted here before, the incentive structure of the current health insurance industry works against health care consumers, because profits strongly depend on limiting payments. That creates a powerful incentive for the insurance provider to deny coverage at the outset and delay or deny payments later. All of us have experienced this abuse, even on routine claims.
The only way to overcome such powerful perverse incentives is through strictly enforced government mandates — witness Senator Clinton’s proposal that insurance companies not be allowed to deny coverage to anyone — and continuous government intervention. Any “universal insurance” plan requires a vigilant government bureaucracy to oversee the millions of decisions insurers make, reverse unfair decisions and penalize anti-consumer practices.
And that’s exactly what’s starting to happen with the Medicare Drug Benefit program. That program mandated drug benefits through a private insurance program, and it’s had some success in getting more people covered than before. But the perverse incentives inherent in this scheme are now demanding more and more government intervention, even from a reluctant Bush Administration.
From Sunday’s New York Times front page article:
Tens of thousands of Medicare recipients have been victims of deceptive sales tactics and had claims improperly denied by private insurers that run the system’s huge new drug benefit program and offer other private insurance options encouraged by the Bush administration, a review of scores of federal audits has found.
The problems, described in 91 audit reports reviewed by The New York Times, include the improper termination of coverage for people with H.I.V. and AIDS, huge backlogs of claims and complaints, and a failure to answer telephone calls from consumers, doctors and drugstores.
. . . Since March, Medicare has imposed fines of more than $770,000 on 11 companies for marketing violations and failure to provide timely notice to beneficiaries about changes in costs and benefits.
The companies include three of the largest participants in the Medicare market, UnitedHealth, Humana and WellPoint.
The audits document widespread violations of patients’ rights and consumer protection standards. Some violations could directly affect the health of patients — for example, by delaying access to urgently needed medications.
The article details numerous problems uncovered by the audits, but you have to read through to the end to find the fundamental flaws driving the abuses. You see, there’s no public alternative to the private plans that can serve to discipline the private abuses. Equally important, to induce the insurance companies to expand coverage, the government pays insurance companies a fat subsidy for getting people signed up, a necessary step in any insurance-based scheme.
Kathleen Healey, a lawyer at the Alabama Department of Senior Services, said: “Despite the prohibition of door-to-door marketing, agents arrive on residents’ doorsteps stating that the president sent them, or that they represent Medicare. Some telemarketers insist they are calling from Medicare, and they tell beneficiaries that they will lose their Medicare if they do not sign up for the telemarketer’s plan.” . . .
But David A. Lipschutz, a lawyer at California Health Advocates, a nonprofit group, said that Medicare’s generous payments to private plans still encouraged predatory sales practices.
“Every enrollee in a private Medicare plan is a potential source of substantial profits,” Mr. Lipschutz said.
As usual, Bush has it all backwards. Private insurance gives insurers perverse incentives to screw consumers unless offset by massive, persistent government intervention — the very thing Republicans fear — unless government ignores consumers’ complaints, or gives up on trying to cover everyone. Open access to a public system can force the private plans to do a better job or lose business — as they should. So if SCHIP provides modest-income familes a decent public alternative to private insurance — and apparently, Bush assumes it does — that’s a good thing and another reason to override Bush’s veto.
Video: Kids Warn Conservatives on SCHIP: No More PhotoOps, by AmericasFuture
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Morning Scarecrow caw caw
There’s a special place in hell for people who prey on seniors about their medicine.
Great post Scarecrow!
Bush only knows how to do things A**backwards!
Good morning Scarecrow.
Good morning Scarecrow!
Good morning everyone. Lotsa stuff going on today and this weekend.
Oh the happy little monkeys at Free Republic have been having a field day with the kid who did the radio speech for the Dems regarding health care,it’s pretty ugly. The Sadly No! blog has more,I can’t wade into Freeperland right now,seeing as my haz mat suit is at the cleaners. It’s very nice how they made sure to not only publish the family’s home address,but also the dad’s small business address(a business he has NO business having according to the brain trust),but also pictures of the family and the parents’ wedding announcement.
I feel fairly confident in saying that most of what fuels this nastiness is Spite. They simply do not give a shit,even if it means they go without too,as long as those dirty hippies don’t win the whole country can burn as far as these asshats give a damn.
Scarecrow -
Here’s a ‘toon appropriate to your topic:
http://www.cagle.com/political…..eneman.asp
Sorry I don’t know how to do a permanent linky to these things but it is dated 10-3-07.
I should amend that last sentence in #8 to read dirty hippies AND brown people.
anangryoldbroad @ 8
That’s despicable. Congress voted overwhelmingly to condemn the exercise of free speech, but if these stories are true, we have individuals and web sites maliciously trying to intimidate the exercise of free speech and invade privacy.
anangryoldbroad @ 8
That’s just unbelieveably horrible……….in other words, they’re outing this family for o’lielly, limpballs and their choir. :-(
Good Morning all! [**waves hello to Millinery Man & Egregious**]
Thanks for another great post Scarecrow.
From Jane’s earlier thread (h/t Christy) on SCHIP, here are the Dem holdouts who deserve to hear from us.:
Jim Marshall (D-GA)–Washington, D.C. Office (202)225-6531; Macon, GA Office 1-877-464-0255; Tifton, GA Office (229)556-7418.
Baron Hill (D-IN)–Washington, D.C. Office (202)225-5315; Jeffersonville, IN Office (812)288-3999; Bloomington, IN Office (812)336-3000.
Gene Taylor (D-MS)–Washington, D.C. Office (202)225-5772; Bay St. Louis, MS Office (228)469-9235; Gulfport, MS Office (228)864-7670; Ocean Springs, MS Office (228)872-7950; Hattiesburg, MS Office (601)582-3246; Laurel, MS Office (601)425-3905.
Bob Etheridge (D-NC)–Washington, D.C. Office (202)225-4531; Raleigh, NC Office (919)829-9122 or 1-888-262-6202; Lillington, NC Office (910)814-0335 or 1-866-384-3743.
Mike McIntyre (D-NC)–Washington, D.C. Office (202)225-2731; Lumberton, NC Office (910)735-0610; Fayetteville, NC Office (910)323-0260; Wilmington, NC Office (910)815-4959; Bolivia, NC Office (910)253-0158.
We’ll be posting others. You can also target print and tv media in their districts.
anangryoldbroad @ 8
that really is shameful
it does illustrate the basic difference between us and them tho
Waccamaw @ 12
The next thing we’ll hear is Limbaugh using the “phony kid” and “phony parents” claim. No one is safe from these thugs. Tristero at Hullabaloo had a post wondering if the media lay off Bush because they’re physically afraid of the freepers.
Jim Webb on scareborough NOW.
OT – i’m pretty sure the senate is in recess this week. anyone know for sure? if so, is there a risk of recess appointment by bush?
An occasional $70,000 fine is hardly a deterrent.
selise @ 18
Looks like they are off this week
Senate Schedule
The big problem with regulation of insurance practices is that it is largely left to the states under the McCarran-Ferguson Act. The states vary widely in their ability to carry out this task, both in terms of manpower and in terms of the laws regulating insurance, which are rarely updated. And the industry is strong in this arena. Many years ago, when insurance companies began pushing variable annuities, I attended a conference where the issue was whether state securities laws applied to sales of variable annuities. The position of the securities people was that the anti-fraud provisions of securities laws should apply, both for regulatory consistency (variable annuities are like mutual funds, and so should be regulated like mutual funds), and because the securities laws had stronger anti-fraud provisions. The industry beat that back, and would not even discuss the position of the securities people. The Insurance Company Institute people were there in force.
How often has the State Insurance Commission in your state taken action against a health insurance company for random harassment in the form of refusal to pay valid claims?
SunnyNobility @ 19
This is a mosquito bite for them.
Now jail time for executives, that might get their attention.
Oh, sweet! Webb just called blackwater “mercernaries”. Tell it, brother!
add the corruption to the average 21% increase the Part D plans are expected to jump (and with AARP’s plan to jump 89 freakin’ percent) and you’ve got a very good case for some gov’t intervention.
good morning all – coffee is ready.
weekly update on congressional hearings list for the holiday week -
the reason i asked about the senate being in recess is that the only senate committee hearings i could find for this week are “field” hearings (i’m sure ET will be looking forward to joe lieberman visiting alaska *g*)
so, there’s only about half the usual number of hearings. Here’s my short list:
Wednesday
9:30 am – House Small Business
Hearing on “The Impact of the 700 Megahertz Wireless Spectrum Auction on Small Business”
10 am – House Armed Services
The full committee will meet to receive testimony on security challenges involving Pakistan and policy implications for the Department of Defense.
10 am – House Oversight and Government Reform
Hearing: Six Years Later – Assessing Long-Term Threats, Risks and the U.S. Strategy for Security in a Post 9/11 World
Thursday
9:30 am – House Judiciary
Joint Hearing on Allegations of Selective Prosecution: The Erosion of Public Confidence in Our Federal Justice System
9:30 am – House Energy and Commerce
Diminished Capacity: Can the FDA Assure the Safety and Security of the Nation’s Food Supply? – Part III
10 am – House Oversight and Government Reform
Hearing on Medicare Part D: Assessing Private Insurers’ Delivery of Medicare Drug Coverage
for other hearings on AIDS relief, national wildlife refuge improvement, child neglect, the armenian genocide, the diversion of taxpayer funds by professional sports stadiums, railroad safety, homeless assistance, NASA’s near-earth objects report, trafficking for forced labor, medicare, and more… see the complete list of hearings for the week.
Working in a medical office in NC, I have first hand knowledge of the unscrupulous & downright sleazy methods employed to sell these plans. Our patients don’t even realize they have opted out of traditional Medicare, they believe they enrolled in drug coverage only realize they have been sold an advantage plan when Medicare starts denying claims.
I have provided every patient with the phone number of the insurance commissioner & encouraged them to make complaints against these agents.
This program has turned into a federally sponsored scam.
Waccamaw @ 23
good for him. during the DPC hearing (9/21), he practically appolgized to the witnesses for the senator’s ignorance and lack of oversight.
The Bush-Cheney administration is turning the entire government into a federally sponsored scam. Homeland Security high on the list for patronage dollars.
SunnyNobility @ 19
Exactly; they only way to offset the perverse incentives is to make the fines large enough so that the risk = probability of getting caught times amount of the fine is greater than the incentive revenues. Bush-style regulation will never do that, and it’s questionable whether Hillary et al would either. This is a common problem in “regulated markets” that deal with needed services.
Diane @ 26
one of the hearings this week is on oversight of plan D. maybe i should have put it on the short list… here it is:
Thursday, 10 am – House Oversight and Government Reform
Hearing on Medicare Part D: Assessing Private Insurers’ Delivery of Medicare Drug Coverage
Scarecrow @ 29
I disagree that fines at any level will change their behavior. Jail time.
Thanks Selise, I’ll be watching – bet Issa is busy finding ways to suck off the insurers.
selise -
I guess “field” means no C-Span coverage, huh?
Would really like to see the House Oversight AND Judiciary AND Energy hearings.
And many thankees to you for all the work you do to get these posted!
Diane -
Where’bouts in NC? Am gonna see if a few of us pups can get together sometime in the next few months……probably western end of the state.
Diane @ 32
never trust my “short list.” i can (and do) miss the most interesting hearing of the week…. that’s why i went to doing a complete list for you-all.
egregious @ 31
Jail time and full restitution to the offended parties, including aggravation pay.
Diane @ 26
Can you explain who these agents are? What are they telling people? I know that my father is shopping all over the place for his prescriptions and ended up at Costco.
anangryoldbroad @ 8
Ah, the Party of Family Values.
If the family name happens to be Corleone.
P.S. I’m sure that
Shirley Annis’ sockpuppetHoward Kurtz will cover this in his Media Notes column.Scarecrow thank you for another great piece. One thing is clear during the next four years we are going to witness some type of National Health care plan.
Selise thank you for keeping us up on hearings.
I tell you after Naomi Wolf’s visit (thank you Jane) to FDL my fears in regard to FASCISM RISING is growing.
At the very first large march against the invasion in OCT 2002 in D.C. I interviewed and audiotaped many older people carrying the Bush administration are FASCIST signs. At each successive anti-invasion march more and more people were carrying BUSH AND CHENEY are FASCIST signs. Most people carrying these signs were older folks (over 70) and many of the peopleI interviewed were older Jewish couples (who clearly recognized the growth of FASCISM in this country.
Phoenix Woman linked this on one of the blogs.
Pro-War Protesters Assault Father Of Soldier Killed in Iraq
A counter-demonstration was also held by supporters of the war. One prominent peace activist Carlos Arredondo was beaten by pro-war activists. Arredondo’s son Alex died in Iraq three years ago. To honor Alex’s memory, Carlos has been crisscrossing the country pulling a flag-draped coffin. He marched with the coffin on Saturday and then left the march to return the coffin to his truck. That’s when a pro-war supporter tried to rip a photo of Carlos’ son from the coffin. When Carlos tried to save the photograph, he said a group of pro-war activists attacked him.
* Carlos Arredondo: “I was assaulted by a group of pro-war people. They come into the ground, and they kicked me and punched me. As a citizen of this country, it’s my duty and my responsibility to participate. As a father, who I lost my son in Iraq, I got to honor my son.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_l8FRRLkNk
THIS IS SO DISTURBING. Karl Rove’s club made it acceptable to attack Max Cleland, John Kerry, John McCain
The FASCIST movement grows.
A post within a post (what I didn’t write), just from weekend NYT stories:
Several stories about Iraq converged this week.
1. The continuing Blackwater saga — message: State Department swept the problem under the rug to protect Blackwater; Iraqi deaths didn’t matter.
2. The Courts Martial criminal investigations of the soldiers involved in killing 24 Iraqi civilians at Haditha, including 8 women and children — has been collapsing, with the Major in charge of recommending prosecution deciding that no or lesser charges should apply — citing effects on Marine morale and US support if murder charges went forward; they also let the evidence go stale. Message to Iraqis: don’t expect the military to view these prosecutions from the Iraqi point of view.
3. Another incident last week, in which the US military announced they had been attacked and responded with air power, killing 25 “insurgents” or “enemy.” But the locals claim these were civilians, some of them armed militias who had organized to fight out al Qaeda. Their town is mostly Shia, surrounded by mostly Sunnis, who have been trying to “cleanse” all Shia from their neighborhood. Where is the truth?
All three stories send a powerful message to the Iraqis that their lives have little/no value to the Americans and they’re a free fire zone with no ultimate accountability, even if the UCMJ applies.
Meanwhile, in today’s news, the Iraqi government essentially concedes that national reconciliation efforts have all failed — i.e, the surge failed its primary objective.
Waccamaw @ 33
i don’t know, but there’s only three of them (in NV, VT and AK)
me too. i may try to record mp3s of a couple of them (depending on what c-span covers). just a reminder, i am happy to make hearing recordings by request. here’s a list of the mp3s i’ve posted for sharing.
Scarecrow @ 39
i’m sure congress will soon be taking up a resolution to condemn the iraqi goverment for implying that gen. petraeus is a liar.
selise @ 34
Where is this?
Washington Journal is focusing on USA Today for 3 hours (25th anniversary). I really appreciate C_SPan but when will they focus on the PUSH for a pre-emptive strike on IRAN frenzy taking place? COME ON THREE HOURS ON USA TODAY
With papers like USA TODAY out there posing as covering news..sites like FDL will continue to grow
Elliott @ 35
There’s another route: private lawsuits against the insurance company, in which you claim “bad faith” on the part of the insurer — the damages include both the claim they denied, plus medical/health consequences, etc, but also punitive damages to provide an incentive to discourage such behavior. Can be millions, so it’s like a “penalty” only pursued by the victim, not the government. But the Bushies attack such lawsuits and try to restrict damage, class actions. John Edwards becomes a villain for trying to make the system work.
Scarecrow @ 39
It became clear that all was lost in Iraq and Afghanistan when the military began using body counts again.
Anti-insurgency as waged by green eye-shade types.
Scarecrow at 39,
When the issue of Blackwater was brought up to Joe Scarborough, his response was that he didn’t care what Iraquis have to say.
I guess that fact that it is their country means nothing to him.
Boston1775 @ 45
When Scarborough speaks Scarborough listens. Although I have even heard Joe criticizing this administration.
O/t -
“Chopper Escorting Musharraf Crashes”:
http://abcnews.go.com/Internat…..amp;page=1
Kathleen @ 46
To be fair, he was debating Mica (sp?) who took the position that the United States caused these problems, not the Iraquis.
Boston1775 @ 45
it’s that mindset that is behind the whole catastrophe of Iraq
Kathleen @ 42
here: complete list of hearings for the week
diane – the medicare part d hearing was on my short list. did the lists yesterday morning, for today, and forgot what i’d put on the short list. my recommendation to check the complete list stands. sorry if i confused anyone besides myself.
Forewarned is Forearmed on Iran
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/7/212920/069
Boston1775 @ 45
The NYT public editor has a column examining the various sources for civilian death statistics. The question I have is whether the military counts the people we mistakenly shoot, and in what category?
When you have Glenn Beck and Fox News and Tom Friedman calling for a holy war against Islamic extremists — broadly defined as anyone who will fight to keep us out of their lands — and John McCain claiming we’re a “Christian nation” while the rightwing nods its heads in agreement — does that mean anyone we kill gets counted as “ethno-sectarian” violence?
Scarecrow @ 16
Like the ad hominem attack, it is a typical Freeper response to attempt to expose the adversary. One of the smarter chimps (who knows the google) will look you up and post any personal information he can find – rather than argue the merits of an argument.
You should be aware of this behavior if you intend to engage them on their own turf. Its happened to me.
Waccamaw – I’m in the Hickory/Taylorsville area, home of McHenry & Foxx.
Boston 1775 – the plans our patients have had problems with include Humana & Pyramid Life. The agents are selling Part D drug plans & scamming them into the med advantage plan.
Our clinic is going through the expense of sending out flyers to our patients warning them of the problems with these insurers.
hackworth -
You should be aware of this behavior if you intend to engage them on their own turf. Its happened to me.
Care to elaborate? If you have here before, I missed the story. Tks.
Scarecrow @ 52
An apt categorization in my opinion.
Diane -
mchenry AND foxx?! Oh, you poor dear…..deepest sympathies. ;-( Let me know if you get a good challenger so I can send some $$$ in your direction.
Location: fantastic! Am thinking probably Aville for meet-up which puts you in close driving distance if you’re interested. Is this the best time to let you know about it since I don’t do facebook?
selise @ 18
I believe it has to be more than ten days for that to kick in.
Scarecrow, Elliot, Kathleen, Selise, All,
What Scarecrow asks at 52: Are the military counting the people mistakenly killed (and all the implied questions of who decides if they are mistakes) goes right to the point of asking what kind of country are we becoming?
What have we become?
The increasing callousness toward the suffering of others is evident.
The Iraquis are objecting to the murder of civilians by Blackwater and people cavalierly state that they don’t care what Iraquis say.
very sad news for costa rica, if true – looks like cafta may have passed the national referendum yesterday.
some background from david sirota here.
NPR’s Big Broadcast last night included episode 18 of Edward R. Murrow’s “Hear It Now,” which is well worth a listen when it’s available online. It covers the week following Truman’s firing of MacArthur.
I used to think in terms of the good ol’ days when Republicans were sane, but I realize now that was just a brief anomalous period when I was growing up (except for Nixon); other than that they were never sane. In the show, there’s discussion of how some Republicans talked about impeaching Truman, and a prominent senator talking about how the only way to deal with Korea was to bomb Manchuria and China, because while some warned that would cause Russia to get involved, that was a risk we should take. (There was also some talk in the vein of avoiding “looking weak” to the commies, but I don’t remember the exact quote.) Geez!
egregious @ 22
Indeed it might. Got a crime in mind, where you can prove every element of the offense beyond a reasonable doubt?
Boston1775 @ 48
Good for Scarborough. As I stated I have heard Scarborough criticize the Bush administrations war.
The “blame the Iraqi’s” theme song has been repeated by many of our Reps. An attempt to divert attention from their disastrous decision to vote for the 2002 war resolution.
Boston1775 @ 59
We’re giving the Iraqis freedom!
We’re just doing this to help them, we are doing this for them! I don’t know why the Iraqi’s can’t get that. /s
burnspbesq @ 62
Keeping in mind that I live near Washington? Sure.
Scarecrow @ 39
Not to mention the assbackwards idea that Marine morale is more important to success of “the mission” than US forces being legitimate and lawful.
Waccamaw, yes, let me know the plans, a weekend in Asheville is always a pleasure. Meeting a fellow firepup would be an added attraction.
Redshift @ 66
The crime is putting the Marines in the position they are in.
twȝk @ 68
I agree with you wholly
Christy is upstairs.
New thread from Christy.
Crashing Karl’s Pity Party
Thank you Scarecrow, twas a very quiet morning!
twȝk @ 68
Yes, we should not ask our Marines to do this, and we shouldn’t expect the Iraqis to accept the consequences.
Scarecrow @ 43
In Tennessee, and I assume other states, there is a statutory limit on bad faith penalties of 25% of actual losses. That doesn’t even pay for legal fees in these cases.
The opposition to SCHIP has been constantly shifting. They’re so full of shit. I’ve read a post here a few days ago and someone said they called Barron Hill and now he’s saying he’ll continure to oppose SCHIP because Indiana pays more out than it gets. That’s how it usually works with programs which help the poor. Asshole. First it was SCHIP would give benefits to illegal aliens; then to families making $83,000, now, well, we don’t get enough back in our state. Next time the hayseed farmers in IN have their hands out they can kiss my ass.
“The only way to overcome such powerful perverse incentives is through strictly enforced government mandates — witness Senator Clinton’s proposal that insurance companies not be allowed to deny coverage to anyone — and continuous government intervention. Any “universal insurance” plan requires a vigilant government bureaucracy to oversee the millions of decisions insurers make, reverse unfair decisions and penalize anti-consumer practices.”
So, under Clinton’s plan we feed the insurance companies a huge increase in profits by “forcing” them to insure everyone and, then, create a large federal agency the job of which is to fight the insurance companies to force them to pay as they have agreed? What kind of insanity is that? Force everyone to pay companies who it is agreed going in will not honor their side of the contract, but create a government agency to fight to try to get them to honor their obligations?
The American people do not need health insurance; they need healthcare!
Clinton’s plan is simply proof that Clinton is a Republican running from within the Democratic Party.
The only viable solution to distributing healthcare in America is a single payer system like Medicare.
it is happening again! The sphere is once again falling into the trap. With the exception of you folks ( A BIG BRAVO! to you)- not a peep today re SCHIP! The message is being controlled by the administration and the corporate media. Why the hell can’t this situation be understood by the Blogs? Fear?, boredom?, stupidity?- all of the above? Yup to the last!
Whenever the goopers establish a “talking point” the forces gather and not only attack once but they continue to attack until ordered to stop. The stopping usually follows polling data showing that their message has be recieved, and not a second sooner.
Their big thing now is that SCHIP would cover “children” up to the age of 25. They’ve been such bullshitters throughout this whole thing. It’s really important to call them on it. Bush vetoed the compromise so when they talk about compromise they can kiss my ass.
If H Clinton is so sharp, and if H Clinton is such a great candidate, why has she pandered to the insurance industry in her “health insurance plan”? From her work when her husband was President she knows well that we have the basic foundation blocks for a universal healthcare system in the VA, Medicaire and Medicaid systems. But she was not receiving money from the insurance industry in those days, of course…… She knows very well that the unsupervised health provider industry is very largely the reason for our ghastly non-system.
The Democratic candidate who will say:
“We have the worst and most expensive health care in the developed world and I am going to fix it with a universal system!”
“I will remove all US forces from Iraq and do what the US can, if it is asked of us, to assist Iraq and its neighbors to recover from our incompetent Occupation —- I repeat, IF we are wanted in that arena.”
“I will find a way to stem the flood of illegal immigrants pouring over the Mexico/US border so we can buy the time to find a way to deal with those already here,
That candidate will be elected.
I myself would dearly like the candidate to be a serious student of democracy who thus knows the US is not a democracy and will begin by introducing a bill which fixes absolutely how much — a nice low figure — a candidate may spend on getting elected. There are examples in all the actual democracies for us to examine.
selise @ 41
And, then after that, they can take up a resolution to condemn the Iraqi insurgents for fighting our soldiers, thus making it impossible for them to ‘win’.
Scarecrow @ 52
We are a nation of
300,000,000
and they are declaring war on a religion practiced by about
1,000,000,000
people just to make themselves feel macho and powerful.
Pathetic.
maunga @ 79
We should fill the House with representatives like this. The Senate will be tougher since they don’t have elections every 2 years, but we can tackle it a little at a time.
Bush sounds like he’s in the Health Insurance business and not the President business.
Late in the day, but if anyone happens along..
Here’s a link to a $500,000 fine imposed by the OK insurance commission against Humana. link