Guess who is one of the the fastest growing “interest groups” of Democratic donors?
—Members of the US military!
Hat tip to commenter Paddy for alerting us to this story. Capital Eye is reporting that since the start of the Iraq war contributions from members of the US military to the Democratic party have nearly doubled since 2002.
Under federal campaign finance rules, candidates only have to identify the source of contributions from those donors who give more than $200. Considering that we pay our troops in combat starvation wages, I suspect that if you added in the contributions of say $15, $25, $50, you would find even more widespread support for Dem candidates from our military heroes.
The most significant shift is among members of the Army who used to give 71% of their contributions to Republicans before the Iraq war began, but only 51% since the US began its war of choice.
The drop in contributions to Republicans—which began nearly the second the war in Iraq did in early 2003—seems to suggest that there is a passionate group of people in the armed services who are looking for ways to express their opinion, said John Samples, director of the Center for Representative Government at the Cato Institute. “This [data] suggests that among the military, the people who feel most intensely about the Bush administration and the war in Iraq are negative about it,” Samples said. “It’s a general discontentment over the way the administration has handled the war—or even that we’re in a war.”
Gee, do you think maybe our brave men and women want to back some candidates who might actually end this damn war? Well, consider this: the biggest Republican recipient of campaign contributions from members of the military is ……… wait for it….Ron Paul. Yep, the only Republican who opposes the war, is the darling of our troops.
Hey, Hillary! Hey, Barack! Hey, John! Yeah, and the rest of you Dem candidates……
Are you paying attention?
The way to “support our troops” is to bring them home.
Alive, not in body bags.
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LHP!
LHP!!!
LHP !!
I already knew that, from working on two US House campaigns for Diane Benson. I think she enjoys working with serving military, veterans and their families more than anything else she’s currently doing. I do a lot of volunteer work with miitary and vets myself, and this is not surprising at all. I was at a vet event yesterday, and everybody seemed to know about the “729 days” scam already.
Having served til ‘05, I did notice a distinct drop in the Army’s enthusiasm for the Repugs after our entry into Iraq…!!! *g*
Does this mean the end of Darrell Issa? Really, though, I always wonder when people vote against their own self-interest. Looks like the military people are not going to do so this time around.
Ed*ard Teller @ 4
That has got to be the most cynical f*** you to the troops ever. It’s what you do when you want to say “Not only do we not give a sh*t, we don’t care enough to hide it.” Appalling beyond words.
Hi LHP. Great post!
Hillary, Barack, and John are keeping their powder dry. For some later battle…..
Loo Hoo. @ 6
I can’t imagine his fawning over Blackwater’s Erik Prince did him much good among real service personnel this week.
My experience from working with members of military families voluteering for our campaign last year is that we never asked for money, but welcomed them at any event. Several spouses of Army soldiers or airmen overseas helped in the office and supporting the logistics of fundraisers, and later, on GOTV. They were and still are an important part of the Benson campaign.
Also in the news about the military ….
ons from members of the military is ……… wait for it….Ron Paul. Yep, the only Republican who opposes the war, is the darling of our troops.
Geez, even I support Ron Paul (and I’m a Dem). I say this in spite of his many unsupportable positions…he’d still be a better President than many of the Democratic candidates? Why? Because he’s a libertarian, he seeks a return to Constitutional rights, is ferociously anti-war and seeks finacial sanity. He’s a vastly better “opposition” candidate than Hillary is, for example and given that she’s been annointed as “the candidate” that we’ll be allowed to vote for, I’m considering changing parties so that I can vote for Paul in the primary.
You can’t imagine what a radical step this would be for me. I’ve been a Dem all of my life and despise what the GOP stands for. Still, when what we’re being offered is “Bush lite”, I’d rather spend my vote on a more significant change, even with Ron Paul’s libertarian flaws.
TexBetsy @ 8
Howdy, Ma’am!!!
Ed*ard Teller @ 4
When I was in the AF in Hawaii, a lot of guys got sent to Kwajalien on TDY with orders not to exceed 180 days (the cut-off for a “remote” tour). At least those guys were usually back in Hawaii at day 175 to 179.
Ed*ard Teller @ 4
ET saw your comment on a previous thread about it goingdown to 25F.. We are having a heat wave on Lawn Guyland. Tellme again there’s no global warming! Glad to ahve you back
Flamethrower @ 9
Norske, is that you…???
Howdy CT. I trust you eventually got some supper last night? And a nice anniversary with the Mrs?
Money talks indeed. This should be the last nail in the coffin of the Phony Soldier meme.
Very parenthetically but somewhat to the point. Every year I bell ring for the Salvation Army (not because of my religious persuasion and certainly not because I agree with all their tenets–just because they do serve the poor). What I’ve seen over and over is how those with the least dig in and share what they have. Manys the time folks gave on the way into the grocery store, and again on the way out, the second time offering whatever they had left over from their food budget. Gives me pause as I think of what some military families may be foregoing in order to contribute to campaigns. Over and above their unmatchable contributions to this country….
Wow, I didn’t realize this. What great news. I hope it gets a lot of MSM play next week, at least. I hope somebody calls Rush with the news…
TexBetsy @ 18
Yes’m, and I certainly enjoyed dessert…!!! ;-)
We are a military family, though we were very far left-leaning even before the madness.
CTuttle @ 21
My cake?? (wink)
CTuttle @ 21
Chocolate pie, right? Oh..
itwasntme @ 20
Evening everyone!
Something tells me this will fall to the bottom of a deep dark well and never see the light of day on MSM. It goes against the prevailing theme for decades that the MSM and right wing noise channels have been shoving down our throats. Every day I am astounded over the real, important stories that are never mentioned on MSM, and that I would never have known about were it not for the toobz.
TexBetsy @ 22
The better half ’served’ for 15 yrs of my service to country…!!! 8-)
madmommy @ 25
See? I skip the MSM most of the time, at least the TV version, so I don’t even get astounded.
TexBetsy @ 23
She certainly appreciated it, Ma’am!!! *g*
A very cynical thought. As the donations swing to the liberal side, I wonder what safeguards should be in place to protect the ballots of soldiers and their voting family members overseas. As I recall, thousands of military voters had their ballots not counted in the past 2 presidential elections…..An ‘accident’ waiting to happen.
Is there a group that would keep their eye on this?
petedownunder @ 24
I did mention whipped cream, didn’t I…??? ;-)
That American Chap @ 13
Ron Paul favors dismantling the entire federal government except the Defense department. Sorry, there’s too many other important things for the government to do. I’m happy to see him be the GOP nominee, and I believe he could be. His support is entirely under the radar, and not measured (at least in Iowa) by “likely caucus go-er” polling.
TexBetsy @ 27
Hey, that’s why we’re here, to give you the news that lazier reporters don’t have time for
CTuttle @ 30
I’m so not going there
Thanks for your work, LHP! Both here and in the Justice Department. How’s young LHP?
Laura Doty @ 29
Tragically, we are getting to the point where we are going to need outside observers monitoring voting to prevent fraud. We’re sliding ever closer to third-world, tin pot dictator-ville every day. Even with monitoring as long as the machines are “set-up” properly the fix could be in and all would look legitimate.
I think I hear rightard heads exploding.
Laura Doty @ 29
The Carter Center
looseheadprop @ 32
And I, for one, appreciate all that the front-pagers and commenters do each day!
OT
I went to Beach Impeach today. Here are the photos if you would like to see them.
pics
Oilfieldguy @ 36
hi ofg!
madmommy @ 35
I’m thinking we all need to be out doing some kind of orchestrated exit polling.
Why haven’t the dems taken up paper ballots yet?
President* Bush and the neocons want to bring them home too, via Tehran.
LHP, I’ve started posting more and more of the news that matters. Have two separate sites going, though I hope to get them to both host the same content soon.
1) More stories but less detail.
2) More detail, but harder for me to enter the stories.
Loo Hoo. @ 41
Complete lack of anything resembling a spine?
Cool pics, Mary.
Waving to Teddy. Left a message for you downstairs re the questions for Andrew Rice. Great stuff, as were the answers. I put my name in the hat to pitch in on his campaign.
Must Defeat Inhofe
Next wing-nut meme: only “phoney soldiers” bitch when they’re intentionally screwed out of GI benefits. 729 days — what pussies!
If Rush cared about the troops, he’d be all over this. He doesn’t, he isn’t.
Thanks Loo Hoo.
well well lets hope the military has seen thru gop bullshit in proclaiming they support the troops….yeah extending tours of duty…bait and switch on post military benefits…poor or no medical benefits – oh yeah heckuva job repugs…
Laura Doty @ 29
Good point. Considering there are groups revealing all the nefarious activities of the electronic voting industry, blackboxvoting.org being the leader, and our “Dem leaders” have done nothing about it, I’m not gonna hold me breath.
Although, as is often pointed out around here, reclaiming our Constitution is a marathon and not a sprint, and blackboxvoting.org has almost single-handedly driven Deibold out of the voting biz, there is hope. Might be worth doing the writing your Congressperson routine about protecting the military votes. Also might be worth alterting Bev Harris at blackboxvoting.org about this as well…might head over there right now…
Did I read somewhere that the 729 day soldiers were going to get the GI Bill benefits after all?
Laura Doty @ 29
Are you referring to the Democratic Lawyers Council?
Loo Hoo. @ 51
What is a day soldier?
Loo Hoo. @ 51
some of them, but not all.
marymccurnin @ 39
Mahalo, Mary! I applaud your efforts!!! 8-)
marymccurnin @ 53
Their orders were written for 729 days. At 730 days GI Bill and other benefits kick in. Bottom line a great big FU to the soldiers on the ground. Surprised? Not me.
Out of Iraq now. Take American soldiers “off the table”.
TexBetsy @ 43
You could use tumblr as another blog importing the stories from other blogs.
TSF @ 37
Thank you. I emailed the Carter Center with my concerns.
Want to support the troops? Bring them home. This is not a difficult concept. We did it in ‘Nam.
Thanks tw3k. Checking with my comp techie now.
TexBetsy @ 43
Hey TexB, Those are great! Thanks!
Oilfieldguy @ 42
lhp @ #16 – Of the many reasons to stick around this family after a spat, the clarity and straightforward wit of Oilfieldguy and OKkiddo rank near the top.
Got all the carrots picked and packed, planters cleaned, hoses stowed and boats out of the water. Ice starting to form along the southern edge of the lakeshore, where the sun never shines.
It is more than ironic that the MN NG Brigade had to serve 729 of the 730 days they would have needed to qualify for full GI bill benifits in a combat zone, and that our president undoubtedly served far, far less active days in the “Champagne Unit” of the TNG, even though none of those days were as hazardous as the least risky day served by the NG unit.
madmommy @ 56
bonkers @ 62
Thanks, but neither is quite working the way I want them to.
Loo Hoo. @ 34
I haven’t been in DOJ for along log time.
Littleprop is bequtiful, strong and smart
This 729-day thing is the purest example of Republican Evil yet. They DESPISE the troops, who they see as money-grubbing peons.
looseheadprop @ 66
Your fumble fingers are exerting their influence again, LHP!!! 8-)
Veritas78 @ 67
Everything and everyone is disposable.
Ron Paul odds have been slashed to 6 to 1: Now favored over Romney.
http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-Paul-100107.html
marymccurnin @ 69
Except THEIR kids.
looseheadprop @ 52
have they considered a name change?
scary acronym….
More Photos From the BeachImpeach Site
TexBetsy @ 61
Now would that be TexSon or TexNiece? ;})
HA! Looky this from TPM.
The situation is bleak at the National Republican Congressional Committee. The GOP’s House committee has $1.6 million in the bank, but is $4 million in debt. The NRCC has struggled to convince incumbents to avoid retirements, and its recruiting efforts have largely been busts. Two weeks ago, House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) was so discouraged by the campaign committee’s plight that he threatened to fire its chief strategists, and NRCC Chairman Tom Cole (R-Okla.) considered resigning.
Ron Paul favors dismantling the entire federal government except the Defense department. Sorry, there’s too many other important things for the government to do. I’m happy to see him be the GOP nominee, and I believe he could be. His support is entirely under the radar, and not measured (at least in Iowa) by “likely caucus go-er” polling.
I’ll let you in on a little secret: I’d favor the dismantling of the Federal government rather than live in the “1984″ style, post-nuked Iran, martial law “detention camp” environment that has been carefully readied for us. When the Federal government becomes a greater threat to it’s own citizens than any outside threat (and it has), then it’s time to tear it down and start over (IMHO).
When I hear Hillary trying to goad Bush into war with Iran and defending Israel’s barking mad attack on Syria, I know that that “D” she carries next to her name means nothing. I’d vote for Kucinich, but they won’t let him get near to the Presidency. Ron Paul is the only anti-war candidate that’s actually electable. Sad, isn’t it?
madmommy @ 70
Heh, I was going to point out the undue concern for Shrub’s ‘Have-more’ base…!!! ;-) (What’s up with the Aints?)
marymccurnin @ 72
Thanks, Mary! Wasn’t it fun? I was at the first one, back in January. Seems so long ago!
Loo Hoo. @ 74
Aaawwww, that’s too bad.
dakine01 @ 73
Actually it’s peanut butter. TexTeen is good with computer applications and Cassie an expert at blogging withing wordpress, but neither can handle the task that this news blog has become.
CTuttle @ 76
Lordy, I wish I knew. Not gonna kick ‘em to the curb though. They gave a big boost to the region when we really needed it last year, now they need us to cheer them on.
TexBetsy, once the ‘puter is fixed, how do you get the peanut butter off teh keyboard?
(I’m having trouble with chai under the iMac keybaord keys…)
I’m looking forward to the 7pm MSNBC rerun of Tim’s Wee Programme. Perhaps this go-round, someone will bring up Dr Dobson’s threat to bolt the GOP. Apparently, no one raised this most important issue during the morning broadcast. Also, JRE is on.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 60
What OK said!
Loo Hoo. @ 75
707! They’re running the that committee like they’re running the country!!!111
looseheadprop @ 52
I didn’t know WHAT group might be willing to bird-dog this. But I’ll write to any organizations those of you in the know suggest.
Ed*ard Teller @ 63
ET promise me something.Promise me I will always find you here tthe lake? Please?
That American Chap @ 76
Not to mention that it might make some people appreciate government again *g
I just want to voice a concern. There seems to be a lot of emphasis put on money raising. I understand the importance to get the message out and understand the need for money to do just that. I just find it troublesome that it seems to be money that gets people elected and not so much ideas.
That being said, I’m grateful that the dems are raising more money than the reps.
Also I agree with the concerns about the voting in 08 and the counting of the ballots. Not just the military votes. I’m also concerned about the reps using the same tactics they have used in the last two (or more) elections. Things like fewer voting machines in democratic areas to create longer lines. And of course the no paper trail voting machines. I wonder if more dems might have been elected in 06 if the republicans had not been allowed to “fix” things their way.
looseheadprop @ 83
Heh, Declare victory and leave, oh wait, Shrub did that already on the deck of a Carrier…!!! ;-)
looseheadprop @ 83
And all these years later the chickenhawks are still saying “we were thisclose in Viet Nam, if only the loony left had given us a bit more time we would have won!” Never let facts interfere with a history re-write/s
More on Beach Impeach
CTuttle @ 89
Except for the LEAVE part.
TexBetsy @ 80
tumblr is just a pared blog that you can use as a kind of hub for importing from your blogs, photo sites, twitter et.al
twȝk @ 93
I need it to import from my google reader feed.
Bush destroyed the GOOPER brand and teh goopers in Congress went right along.
Not to mention that it might make some people appreciate government again *g
Geez, ya think? That’d be nice, eh? My folks were big-time GOPers and seethed everytime the subject of Social Security came up….however, as is typical with Republicans, they had no problem with cashing their checks from said-same agency. I suppose it comes down to hating government except when it is benefitting YOU!
On the subject of war Bullshit:
Betrayus: “The [Iranian] ambassador [to Iraq] is a Qods force member.”
Um. Yeah… so what shrubco’s sayin’ is, Iran’s so evil that even their diplomats are actually elite, frontline tehruhrist commandos bent on 9/11ing us to death.
I suppose that the next thing the rethugs will be saying is that Iran-shrub personally walks around with a mini-nuke strapped around his chest just waitin’ for the chance to blow us up
TexBetsy @ 95
it’ll do that. anything with a feed.
Rockin’ into a new week with LHP! Will this be the week that Bush gets…
Undone (the sweater song) – Weezer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqgN0T6f1kg
Blub @ 98
Remember when our government wasn’t headed by a pack of psychopaths and mental midgets? Sigh.
Loo Hoo. @ 75
Cole can’t resign, he’s Broders boy who recites him dutifully while nodding his head like a little dog in the back window of an El Dorado, agreeing with all the boats and flowers Cole has to say about Republican chances.
See, the Republicans will win ’cause the Democrats can’t get anything done ’cause they are real partisan and stuff. Voters hate that and they oughta just do what Bush and the Republicans want so stuff would get done in a “bipartisan” manner.
Yup. The Rubber Stamp Republicans lost and the Dems will lose because they aren’t.
The world according to Dean Broder as told to him by Cole in contravention of good sense.
Aye caramba. Or is that Viva Tancredo?
Blub @ 98
When they can get the Congress to declare a National Army as a terrorist organization, it becomes apparent that there really are no stop gaps to this insanity…!!! 8-(
madmommy @ 101
I just don’t understand how Petraeus sleeps at night, as an presumably highly intelligent scholar forced to regurgitate amateur propaganda bullshit force-fed to him by the likes of Andrew Card. They must have an awfully big retirement fund set up for him in Barbados.
Goopers have earned their connection with the military through years of work. They’re deeply in bed with military contractors- and military officers move out of the Pentagon and into the industrial complex at the snap of a finger. Goopers butter military bread and the military butters back.
OT: Representing Spatio-Temporal Traces
Uh-oh, It looks like Jane is gonna be at the Ballpark, tomorrow…!!!
CTuttle @ 103
Well… he hasn’t yet order the decimation of the troops to promote “Return on Success.”
CTuttle @ 107
Torre has saved his job for one more day.
madmommy @ 109
Related …
Rudy’s Donation Page MIA
peterboy @ 96
Nope. Bush is indeed a creation of the modern day Republicans, a constructed Doppelganger stuffed completely full of all that is Republican. Never should we ever let any conservative, who campaigned for him, donated to him, voted for him, defended each and every vile policy that ever eminated out of his skankhole and blasted any detractor with the most vile and hateful demonic slimedozers to move one inch away from Bush, merely because he committed the unpardonable Republican sin, drop in the polls.
Conservatism cannot fail, people fail conservatism.
Bush is a conservative Republican. He is no different now, than he ever was, a creation of the Republican machine.
madmommy @ 79
Is anyone else starting to get the feeling that if we can somehow keep the Dems from screwing up, 2008 could look a lot like 1964? As in 400-plus electoral votes and close to veto-proof majorities in both houses of Congress?
Oilfieldguy @ 112
So, why are true Goldwater Conservatives acting as the veritable rats fleeing the sinking ship…?!!! *g*
twȝk @ 85
I hope they file Chapter 11. Then the Dems can buy the brand name and charge them to use it.
Oilfieldguy @ 112
Sorry, but no. George W. Bush is many things. A conservative is absolutely not one of them.
Novak:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..ig-secret/
You’ve got to watch this. This is Novak. The arch conservative that sacrificed Valerie Plame to punish Joe Wilson for telling the truth! Even Novak says in the video it’s the Foley situation all over again. It’s far worse than one bad apple. It’s the whole Republican institution covering the bad conduct for partisan reasons. When are these Republicans going to learn? When? When all of them are voted out?
Military contributions for Q2
Ron Paul 26.23%
Barack Obama 24.02%
John McCain 18.31%
Hillary Clinton 11.08%
Bill Richardson 5.59%
Mitt Romney 4.05%
John Edwards 2.63%
Rudy Giuliani 2.44%
Mike Huckabee 1.84%
Tom Tancredo 1.63%
Duncan Hunter 1.05%
Joe Biden 0.84%
Mike Gravel 0.16%
Sam Brownback 0.07%
Dennis Kucinich 0.05%
Tommy Thompson 0%
Chris Dodd 0%
Jim Gilmore 0%
John Cox 0%
My bad, can’t find the link after I copied the list a while back. Oh well. Gotta go buy dawg food.
Six years of Gooper reign is long enough to be…
Scarred for Life – Rose Tatoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CW8TJ1jfl0
Gooper congress critter dead. Congresswoman from Virginia dies of breast cancer. Replacement election to be scheduled.
burnspbesq @ 113
It could very well be, yet, many of the Dems are squandering their cache…!!! 8-(
john in sacramento @ 111
That is rich! And he wants to run a government?
CTuttle @ 114
True conservatives weren’t on the Cruise to Perdition to begin with. We looked at Bush’s record as Governor of Texas and knew what he was (i.e., not one of us).
So, why are true Goldwater Conservatives acting as the veritable rats fleeing the sinking ship…?!!! *g*
Think of the blogs as reverse lifeboats, full of people saying “remember when you said…” as we gleefully toss the rats back onto the good ship Bushtanic.
rwcole @ 120
with earnest sympathy and condolences for the late congresswoman, someone should suggest to Macaca that he run for it…
Oilfieldguy @ 112
From Joe McCarthy on (or maybe from Prescott Bush, noted Nazi sympathizer, on) the GOP has had the authoritarian streak identified by John Dean.
It is now closing in on being down to the 25% of the population that is Jonestown Republican in their heart.
CTuttle @ 121
Nothing like a triangulating bunch of spineless jellyfish to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Burns at 113. Wouldn’t that be cool? I didn’t realize 1964 was such a winner for dems.
shrub’s a conservative, following one of their traditions… he’s just not a Reagan Republican
Keep reading discussions about who’s the new Ronnie Raygun…Goopers are blind- Clusterfuck is the new Ronnie Reagain- same IQ- same level of attention to detail- same management style…the search is OVER.
Hmmm…Ron Paul wants limited government, especially in our personal lives, huh? Too bad he doesn’t apply that to pregnant women. From his Web site:
As an OB/GYN doctor, I’ve delivered over 4,000 babies. That experience has made me an unshakable foe of abortion. Many of you may have read my book, Challenge To Liberty, which champions the idea that there cannot be liberty in a society unless the rights of all innocents are protected. Much can be understood about the civility of a society in observing its regard for the dignity of human life.
First off, you don’t “deliver” a thing, my man. You ASSIST women who grow human beings inside of them, and the women who deliver these people to the world. Sometimes, they might need medical assistance to deliver, which you adminster, but they do all the work, bro.
Plus the MEDICAL-industrial complex has consciously created a culture in America over the last 60-70 years that birth is an illness that needs doctors to cure it. This is so wrong on so many levels it’s disgusting. Certainly, OB/GYN’s do some amazing things and save lives when certain complications arise, and I’m so glad the medical community is there for those times, but the overwhelming majority of the time, when the birth is normal, they often do more harm than good.
Oh, and Liberty Ron…I often work with people in your field, including a few OB/GYNs, and many, many midwives, who combined have probably ASSISTED in 15,000 births, and all but one are strongly Pro-Choice. Why are you so out of touch with your collegues?
Ron Paul’s all for Liberty, unless it’s those “little ladies” that don’t know what they’re doing, so us men need to come rescue them, and decide what’s best for them.
albert fall @ 115
Now that’d be amusing *g
Detroit Free Press has a good biographic piece on arch-rethug mercenary lord Erik Prince out today:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs…../710070665
Blub @ 129
I don’t know…he throws our money around like a drunken sailor, wants government sticking it’s nose in every aspect of people’s private lives, and thinks the Constitution is something to housebreak Barney on. A complete opposite of every true conservative position I have ever heard.
madmommy @ 134
Doesn’t that describe the Raygun years?
marymccurnin @ 39
Hi Mary
I know these two people with the Peace Signs. They’re the ones who put on the Iraq occupation protests on Broadway in front of Tower Theater
To ease financial concerns, the nuclear power industry has turned to Congress. Among the biggest reasons for renewed interest in nuclear power are the tax breaks, loan guarantees and other subsidies in the Energy Policy Act of 2005.
Those benefits were “the whole reason we started down this path,” Crane said after filing NRG Energy’s license application. “If it were not for the nuclear provisions in there, we would not have even started developing this plan two years ago.”
For each nuclear plant seeking federal approval before the end of 2008, the act provides tax credits of up to $125 million for eight years, loan guarantees for up to 80 percent of a plant’s cost, shared application costs and insurance that would cover the costs of regulatory delay.
Nuclear plants also receive other subsidies, including local tax breaks and limits on liability for catastrophic accidents.
Many utility executives, however, say they need more.
So nuclear power plants don’t make any fuckin economic sense unless the federal fuckin govt. builds em and GIVES em to the utility companies…that’s a conservative position?
CTuttle @ 114
Read our friend Rick Perlstein. The few truly principled Goldwater Conservatives (John Dean, Kevin Phillips) switched sides long ago. The others just recognize a good line to use in their faux-populism. When actually given the choice of shrinking gov’t or enriching their friends… it’s not a hard choice to make for to your typical blivet[*]
* Blivet: 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag
Sorry, but no. George W. Bush is many things. A conservative is absolutely not one of them.
burnspbesq,
For the last quarter of a century, conservatives have stained the name of liberal. It is our turn on them. The mask is torn revealing what lies beneath.
Consider Iraq.
The goal was to create a conservative paradise. Unions were outlawed as was minimum wage, unlimited immigrant labor, no social security, denationalize all industries and on and on and on.
Democracy did not fail in Iraq, consevatism did, and the face to place that name is President* George Bush.
Now there may be such a creature as a “good conservative” but they do not make it through the primary, so none exist in office. Republicans in Washington exist for only two things, protecting corporations and investigating Democrats.
Ronnie had that little twinkle in his eyes- caused no doubt by exploding brain cells.
Blub @ 129
Sure he is. He just forgot some of the rules (such as putting limits on your greed).
Which of the current crop of candidates are George Bush Repulicans?
“Mr. Romney- do you consider yourself a George Bush republican?”
rwcole @ 142
Insert the W please.
So, I pulled up a chair and started drinking by myself, for…
Three Strange Days – School of Fish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2rw_XDVfsg
The conservative packashit ain’t changed much- it’s just that Bush stirred it up with a million tons of incompetence.
rwcole @ 138
actually, alot of hardcore rethugs believe that nuke plants are actually an acceptable solution to hydrocarbons. ‘figures that the only source of alternative energy they like is filthier and more dangerous than even our addiction to oil, gas and coal.
Nuclear power plant construction must creat billions for the contractors and suppliers.. Who are they ? General Electric.
Blub @ 133
Excellent link, Blub. Thanks.
Hiya looseheadprop. Howdy y’all.
Evenin’ Snarky
Haven’t tried to develop this much, but I have this thought that modern day Repubelickinism will always fail in the long-term. Not just fail, but destroy the human race. It’s just wrong at the base level.
By putting the pursuit of profits above all else, any civilization will collapse, and in today’s globalization and nuclear weapons, that will mean annihilation as we know as those few that control everything fight over what they feel belongs to them.
This is why government regulation, rule of law, and informed electorates are absolutely essential for any system to survive long-term. The free-market will not correct itself when the few Conglomerate owners can cover up their malfeasance, and consumers will never know what’s really happening to them. Did you ever see Bladerunner?
Just stream of consciousness thoughts here, but seems to make sense so far…
madmommy @ 127
Herding cats…??? ;-)
OT, but I jsut saw this and it struck me funny.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..hink-iraq/
Dems are increasing their advantage over goopers- so they seem to doin OK.
Also OT.
2 new posts:
Cholera and Iraqi Children
Google your bus stop
rwcole @ 143
freddy surely
rwcole @ 148
Not that there’s anything necessarily wrong with it but …
Someone has to guard them, but, don’t we have our own thugs?
john in sacramento @ 136
That is so cool. By the way I was at a recent Sac Dem meeting but you weren’t. It was a couple of weeks ago.
God said, ‘Abraham kill me a son.”
Abe said, “Man, you must be puttin’ me on?”
Highway 61 – Johnny Winter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8siLZ4zNbY
I loved reading this post, it’s a great stat to go viral, the democrats have to pound away at this stat, it strikes a stake through the heart of the republican brand and their propaganda is becoming enefectivr
add to the stat written about in this blog entry the following;
from here
http://today.reuters.com/news/…..NISTAN.xml
rwcole @ 148
Then there’s always the very profitable disposal of the waste… can anyone say Yucca Mountain?
john in sacramento @ 158
sounds like a business opportunity for Prince Erik’s private army
perris @ 161
Wow. I bet that won’t be in US newspapers.
SnarKassandra @ 164
that Brit think-thank prolly just got added the watchlist and will soon be the subject of its very own Blackwater airstrike
SnarKassandra @ 164
My, my, Missie, you’ve certainly grown cynical in your youth…!!! *g*
SnarKassandra @ 156
So George Bush is actively killing children in both Iraq and the United States.
marymccurnin @ 167
An equal opportunity war criminal/compassionate conservative.
Clusterfuck now says that he’s willing to “negotiate” on children’s health…
Negotiate THIS you pile of gooper shit!!
Mary @ 159
I miss a meeting about every five or six months and September happened to be one
D’uoh ;-)
marymccurnin @ 167
Pretty much.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall when he meets his Maker one day. There’s s special ring in Hell awaiting.
So should dems “negoitate” with the Clusterfucker or just push to pass over his veto?
Teddy’s upstairs
SnarKassandra @ 164
unsubscribe me from the war on terror
rwcole @ 138
Nope. That’s a Republican position. They aren’t the same thing. Crony capitalism isn’t conservative.
madmommy @ 171
yeah, but he’s absolutely convinced of his own saintliness. He’s gonna be shocked, absolutely shocked when he’s dragged to the down elevator.
SnarKassandra @ 156
Cassie, you still here?
I just ran across this earlier today
Bush adminstration supports program to deliberately subject infants and small children to known toxins.
Bush wants to die all laid out fer heaven- but with a pair a asbestos shorts just in case.
marymccurnin @ 167
don’t forget his efforts to tie foreign aid to faith-based mandates like withholding contraception… not to mention his linking of AIDs-related money for Africa to the exclusive teaching of abstinence. He’s killin’ children all over the planet.
BAGHDAD, Oct. 7 — The Iraqi prime minister’s office said Sunday that the government’s investigation had determined that Blackwater USA private security guards who shot Iraqi civilians three weeks ago in a Baghdad square sprayed gunfire in nearly every direction, committed “deliberate murder” and should be punished accordingly
john in sacramento @ 177
Thanks John. I am saving it.
rwcole @ 180
That means hanged. Dear Prince Erik, ya hear that.. hanged
CTuttle @ 17
I am zee original Flamethrower. I don’t know how, but you could check the internet-skies.
This is the perfect story to get out to the press. The Army is giving more money to Democrats because they want the war to end.
We Lefties who the DLC and Karl Rove’s concern trolls accuse of trying to pull the Democrats to far to the left to win the presidential election have succeded beyound our wildest dreams!
For now we have not only pulled 70% of Americans against the War the Armed Forces are joining our postion!
Now if we could only get the three leading Democratic Party Presidential contenders to sign on to ending the war.
Someone should tell Karl that he has it all backwards the Left is convincing almost everybody except the Dems to end the war.
Not ending the war has now become the greatest obstacle for Democrats in the coming election.
…but according to that fat slob Limbaugh, they’re all phony soldiers. The Republican base is disappearing before our eyes.
After the 2008 elections, they will be irrelevant. They will lose the WH and lose more seats in the House and Senate.
LHP–
Are you still around? You’ve got mail! I was busy writing it and missed most of the comments here.
Bob in HI
Loo Hoo. @ 6
I think Issa’s main support base are the employees of all the Military Manufacturers and Contractors in his district. Most of the military bases are further South. However, it will be interesting to see if those incumbent repugs in those districts dominated by military bases begin to swing around.
Veritas78 @ 67
I’m sure that they said “Hey, when they realise they need that one extra day…they’ll sign up for another 20 month tour. This is GREAT for recruitment!”
looseheadprop @ 84
It’s actually quite simple. We stop sending replacement forces into Iraq and reduce tour lengths to those before the “surge” increased them to 20-months.
Blub @ 98
I seem to recall that the prior State Department Secretary (General Colin Powell) was once the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. A former Iranian General serving as an Ambassador? I’m shocked!
BTW I worder if this means that the US government will refuse the credentials of ANY diplomats formerly affiliated with the military of other nations…oh wait, Betrayus is even suggesting that Iraq expel him. So much for treating Iraq as a sovereign nation!
albert fall @ 115
And make them all take those mandatory Responsible Finance Classes and make them live “within their means”.
BTW…do creditors (Mediacorp, etc.) get a piece of the Party ASSE
TS…would those be the votes of the of their elected Republicans? Same as it ever was…same as it ever was…same as it ever was.moose @ 118
Maybe this one?
http://phreadom.blogspot.com/2…..itary.html
Though I don’t know how the reports would have gotten information on “Veterans” since one need not report ones former employers on campaign contributions.
peterboy @ 96
All I can imagine is they think there’s a big payoff sometime in the future.
If Bush is just gonna abandon them (the typical knife in the back), then they’ll just lose. But, if there is meant to be a bigger payoff down the road, then it means we’re gonna have to fight some other Crazies again — and there’s no way of knowing what kind of bizarro plan they have in mind.
rwcole @ 148
“Liberal” media making billions $$$ from Conservative Bush Republican largesse!
What’s Modern American Democracy?
A CEO and a Repug stealing from the common man and then telling him ‘The common man likes it’.
Who wants to bet right now, if Hillary is elected she’ll govern exactly like the more ‘moderate’ Republicans would?
Except for the ‘Democratic’ label there’s nothing Democratic about her.
Things Come Undone @ 184
Yes, but Big Money must have someone who will promise them “their” tax cuts, so it really doesn’t matter what happens in Iraq or how many Americans want us out of Iraq.
If they want ALL the money, then by God they will have it all. Let ‘em choke on it. The economy certainly won’t run with all of it in their hands.
We’ll have a Repug president whatever it costs Big Money, even if it’s a billion dollars.
I’m thinking it is completely irrelevant to ever think of presidential politics in terms of traditional party symbols. The thing that matters is which candidate is willing to ‘play ball’ with Big Money. And, seen in that light, Hillary is to the right of Ron Paul.
It’s Big Money versus Americans.