Beat ya

Fred Thompson is a joke!!!

hi TJ !

neurophius @ 2

Fred Thompson is a joke!!!

I think we should haul his wife in for elder abuse: making that nice old man campaign for the Preznitcy.

Nice, Teddy!!!

OT:

sell house sell

;>)

TSF!

Hi Teddy. Thanks for hosting us tonight.

thanks, db (smiling bestest movie star smile)

tj, did you let downstairs know nicely that you got the zed?

yup

There is irony in the fact that the Republican presidential field for 2008 was widely perceived as being mediocre, and a need was seen for a new candidate to enter the race. Enter Fred Thompson, the great Repug hope to win the White House. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Did someone say mediocre?

well, i told them that there was a new thread. i saved my gloating for here.

excellent, tj, thanks

Has Fred ever done anything to benefit America?

neurophius @ 12

There is irony in the fact that the Republican presidential field for 2008 was widely perceived as being mediocre, and a need was seen for a new candidate to enter the race. Enter Fred Thompson, the great Repug hope to win the White House. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Did someone say mediocre?

It would hard to be worse than GWB, but Fred would come close.

How the Obama fundraising juggernaut got built by Julianna Smoot. Looks like if either of the two current “front-runners” win the nomination, it’ll be a woman’s victory.

That was the beginning of a fundraising juggernaut that, perhaps more than any other single factor, helped transform Obama into a serious contender for the presidency. By the end of September, the senator from Illinois had raised more money for his primary bid than any other candidate in either party — more than $75 million. He did it not simply by using the new possibilities of the Internet, for which he has received considerable attention, but by creating almost overnight a network of “bundlers” — a core group of motivated supporters with the Rolodexes to bring along friends and associates.

lol, great vid

neurophius @ 12

There is irony in the fact that the Republican presidential field for 2008 was widely perceived as being mediocre, and a need was seen for a new candidate to enter the race. Enter Fred Thompson, the great Repug hope to win the White House. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Did someone say mediocre?

maybe nem keeping powder dry for…… Unity ‘08!

Fred “Never heard of Terry Schiavo” Thompson, the last of the Cold Warriors, still fighting to save Amurka from the Soviet Union.

This is supposed to be “Big Week” for the Fed corruption trial up in Alaska. I’ve only heard solid rumors, but I do believe the really smelly stuff – as opposed to the smelly stuff we’ve already seen and smelled – is about to pass through the fan. And splatter. Alaska is already the most fluid political situation in the country.

I’m sure Teddy or another Bay Arean already posted this, but just in case:

State Dem group played hardball to kill GOP election system plan

“wurth” a read.

Ron Paul has a better chance than Fred.

Ed*ard Teller @ 22

This is supposed to be “Big Week” for the Fed corruption trial up in Alaska. I’ve only heard solid rumors, but I do believe the really smelly stuff – as opposed to the smelly stuff we’ve already seen and smelled – is about to pass through the fan. And splatter. Alaska is already the most fluid political situation in the country.

w00t!

Geez, ET. Keep us posted! I love it when people who thought they were too smart and connected to get caught, are caught.

Ed*ard Teller @ 21

This is supposed to be “Big Week” for the Fed corruption trial up in Alaska. I’ve only heard solid rumors, but I do believe the really smelly stuff – as opposed to the smelly stuff we’ve already seen and smelled – is about to pass through the fan. And splatter. Alaska is already the most fluid political situation in the country.

Will there be more indictments? I love the smell of GOP indictments in the morning….

Highlarious clip. Uhm, can we change his name from “Frederick of Hollywood” to something more suitable for his ugly mug?

I vote for Gollum.

punaise @ 22

I’m sure Teddy or another Bay Arean already posted this, but just in case:

State Dem group played hardball to kill GOP election system plan

“wurth” a read.

Finally! The will to fight is there…

“We need to fight back and not be reluctant – that if they come after you with a knife, to pull out a gun,” said California Democratic strategist Chris Lehane, former spokesman for President Bill Clinton’s White House and Vice President Al Gore’s 2000 presidential campaign.

Oilfieldguy @ 28

Highlarious clip. Uhm, can we change his name from “Frederick of Hollywood” to something more suitable for his ugly mug?

I vote for Gollum.

Dead Fred?

Speaking of Thompsons, whatever happened to Republican presidential candidate Tommy Thompson? His campaign was over in the blink of an eye.

I wonder if Fred bought him off to sew up the Thompson vote…

TSF – supposedly more than ten this week….certainly, by the end of October.

Ed*ard Teller @ 21

This is supposed to be “Big Week” for the Fed corruption trial up in Alaska. I’ve only heard solid rumors, but I do believe the really smelly stuff – as opposed to the smelly stuff we’ve already seen and smelled – is about to pass through the fan. And splatter. Alaska is already the most fluid political situation in the country.

woohoo, getting ready for snoopy dance

Ed*ard Teller @ 31

TSF – supposedly more than ten this week….certainly, by the end of October.

Ten separate individuals???

Fred (as Fred Dalton) seemed dumb in his TV role.
My impression hasn’t changed – something dull and passive about his affect..

neurophius @ 30

Speaking of Thompsons, whatever happened to Republican presidential candidate Tommy Thompson? His campaign was over in the blink of an eye.

I wonder if Fred bought him off to sew up the Thompson vote…

Two many jokes about the Thompson Twins.

CTuttle @ 33

Ed*ard Teller @ 31

TSF – supposedly more than ten this week….certainly, by the end of October.

Ten separate individuals???

10 legislators? state and federal?

Ed*ard Teller @ 21

This is supposed to be “Big Week” for the Fed corruption trial up in Alaska. I’ve only heard solid rumors, but I do believe the really smelly stuff – as opposed to the smelly stuff we’ve already seen and smelled – is about to pass through the fan. And splatter. Alaska is already the most fluid political situation in the country.

ET -

Saw you mentioned this on an earlier thread. Do ya think this will include stevens the elder, or only his son?

Oilfieldguy @ 27

[snip]
I vote for Gollum.

Works for me. *g*

Understand he’s finally gonna show up tonite (Monday) for his first debate……trying to decide whether to risk the ill effects by watching a few minutes of same or just read ’bout it on the blogs.

Suzanne @ 36

CTuttle @ 33

Ten separate individuals???

10 legislators? state and federal?

Aw, c’mon ET, inquiring minds wanna know!!!

crossing fingers and hoping the alaskan’s clean house and indict every single corrupt legislator – let alaska show the rest of the US how it is supposed to be done – please

Suzanne @ 40

crossing fingers and hoping the alaskan’s clean house and indict every single corrupt legislator – let alaska show the rest of the US how it is supposed to be done – please

As Alaska goes, so goes the nation!

Suzanne @ 39

crossing fingers and hoping the alaskan’s clean house and indict every single corrupt legislator – let alaska show the rest of the US how it is supposed to be done – please

What a marvelous portent for ‘08 that would be.
Go Alaska!!!

Suzanne @ 39

crossing fingers and hoping the alaskan’s clean house and indict every single corrupt legislator – let alaska show the rest of the US how it is supposed to be done – please

In this regard, if it makes ET happy, it’s fine by me.

newtonusr @ 42

Suzanne @ 39

crossing fingers and hoping the alaskan’s clean house and indict every single corrupt legislator – let alaska show the rest of the US how it is supposed to be done – please

In this regard, if it makes ET happy, it’s fine by me.

Alaska may be the big bang tipping point on a whole lotta levels…and not a minute too soon IMHO.

Jesus… Fred looks better in Claymation than he does in real “life”…

i agree npb

(npb, it was great hooking up with you and sandy today and token sends doggie kisses to you)

ThatSinger @ 44

Jesus… Fred looks better in Claymation than he does in real “life”…

Smoother complexion…???

ThatSinger @ 44

Jesus… Fred looks better in Claymation than he does in real “life”…

Fred Thompson: a balding Herman Munster

Actually the rumor machine is cranked. I heard a certain “Stevens’s” set of indictments yesterday, but that one is “iffy.” I’ve heard “fish” a lot, but the only one that keeps coming up in local blogs is “pollack,” so it isn’t related to the Kenai River shenanigans of Lisa Murkowski, Ted Stevens and mobile home mogul Bob Penney.

I’ve heard “ten to fifteen seperate indictments” several times from solid sources. Times like this, I need a private investigator, not a slightly overweight bodyguard.

nice to see ya again, that singer – been a while (or else my memory is really failing)

Ed*ard Teller @ 48

Actually the rumor machine is cranked. I heard a certain “Stevens’s” set of indictments yesterday, but that one is “iffy.” I’ve heard “fish” a lot, but the only one that keeps coming up in local blogs is “pollack,” so it isn’t related to the Kenai River shenanigans of Lisa Murkowski, Ted Stevens and mobile home mogul Bob Penney.

I’ve heard “ten to fifteen seperate indictments” several times from solid sources. Times like this, I need a private investigator, not a slightly overweight bodyguard.

Most Excellent, ET!!!

Ed*ard Teller @ 48

Actually the rumor machine is cranked. I heard a certain “Stevens’s” set of indictments yesterday, but that one is “iffy.” I’ve heard “fish” a lot, but the only one that keeps coming up in local blogs is “pollack,” so it isn’t related to the Kenai River shenanigans of Lisa Murkowski, Ted Stevens and mobile home mogul Bob Penney.

I’ve heard “ten to fifteen seperate indictments” several times from solid sources. Times like this, I need a private investigator, not a slightly overweight bodyguard.

thanks, et, for the update – got my fingers and toes crossed for the whole kit and caboodle of em to be indicted, cuffed, processed, and then tried.

Suzanne @ 51

Ed*ard Teller @ 48

Actually the rumor machine is cranked. I heard a certain “Stevens’s” set of indictments yesterday, but that one is “iffy.” I’ve heard “fish” a lot, but the only one that keeps coming up in local blogs is “pollack,” so it isn’t related to the Kenai River shenanigans of Lisa Murkowski, Ted Stevens and mobile home mogul Bob Penney.

I’ve heard “ten to fifteen seperate indictments” several times from solid sources. Times like this, I need a private investigator, not a slightly overweight bodyguard.

thanks, et, for the update – got my fingers and toes crossed for the whole kit and caboodle of em to be indicted, cuffed, processed, and then tried.

Don’t forget “convicted.”

…and “sentenced.”

i figured the convicted was a given but you are correct, never assume what a jury is going to do.

convicted. and imprisoned. no pardons.

… and “imprisoned!!”

I want whoever the Democratic presidential candidate to have to face Ron Paulneurophius @ 47

ThatSinger @ 44

Jesus… Fred looks better in Claymation than he does in real “life”…

Fred Thompson: a balding Herman Munster

IMHO, all three of the GOP frontrunners will self-destruct, which will leave Paul vs St. McCain.

That battle will be a sight to behold! And, I pray for a Paul win, because I’d love to see Hillary face someone who (on foreign policy) is far to the left of her.

TeddySanFran @ 55

… and “imprisoned!!”

Amen, Teddy…!!!

TeddySanFran @ 55

… and “imprisoned!!”

edited and included teddy

Suzanne @ 45

i agree npb

(npb, it was great hooking up with you and sandy today and token sends doggie kisses to you)

Awww – right back attcha.

Are you sure Token is a pooch and not really Yoda lurking beneath his firepup disguise?

neurophius @ 47

ThatSinger @ 44

Jesus… Fred looks better in Claymation than he does in real “life”…

Fred Thompson: a balding Herman Munster

heh, heh…..

wigwam @ 57

I want whoever the Democratic presidential candidate to have to face Ron Paulneurophius @ 47

Fred Thompson: a balding Herman Munster

IMHO, all three of the GOP frontrunners will self-destruct, which will leave Paul vs St. McCain.

That battle will be a sight to behold! And, I pray for a Paul win, because I’d love to see Hillary face someone who (on foreign policy) is far to the left of her.

How the hell does Unity 08 fit in?

wigwam @ 56

I want whoever the Democratic presidential candidate to have to face Ron Paulneurophius @ 47

Fred Thompson: a balding Herman Munster

IMHO, all three of the GOP frontrunners will self-destruct, which will leave Paul vs St. McCain.

That battle will be a sight to behold! And, I pray for a Paul win, because I’d love to see Hillary face someone who (on foreign policy) is far to the left of her.

Dang, Wigwam, then it’d really be a choice between the lesser of two evils, Paul might win out then…!!! ;-)

neurophius @ 53

…and “sentenced.”

as she cuffs ‘em, Suzanne sez “Welcome to the GOP Criminal Justice Continuum.”

i wish i was there to do the honors, et, but will leave that to my fellow officers in residence

time for me to give up and go soak my back in a hot batch again…. the first cold spell is always a rough one to aclimate too

see ya’ll tomorrow nite

neurophius @ 47

ThatSinger @ 44

Jesus… Fred looks better in Claymation than he does in real “life”…

Fred Thompson: a balding Herman Munster

or a hairy Uncle Fester.

Suzanne @ 64

i wish i was there to do the honors, et, but will leave that to my fellow officers in residence

time for me to give up and go soak my back in a hot batch again…. the first cold spell is always a rough one to aclimate too

see ya’ll tomorrow nite

Bonne Nuit, Ma Cheri!!!

twȝk @ 61

wigwam @ 57

I want whoever the Democratic presidential candidate to have to face Ron Paul
IMHO, all three of the GOP frontrunners will self-destruct, which will leave Paul vs St. McCain.

That battle will be a sight to behold! And, I pray for a Paul win, because I’d love to see Hillary face someone who (on foreign policy) is far to the left of her.

How the hell does Unity 08 fit in?

IMHO, another Clinton is “politics as usual.” That’s not to say that I’d vote for Paul over Hillary, but she’d have to trim her sails. My official position is that “all options (including nuclear) are still on the table.”

Suzanne @ 64

i wish i was there to do the honors, et, but will leave that to my fellow officers in residence

time for me to give up and go soak my back in a hot batch again…. the first cold spell is always a rough one to aclimate too

see ya’ll tomorrow nite

Sweet dreams Suz and all your furry friends great and small in Redwood country.

Ed*ard Teller @ 65

neurophius @ 47

Fred Thompson: a balding Herman Munster

or a hairy Uncle Fester.

That may be closer to the truth.

wigwam @ 68

twȝk @ 61

How the hell does Unity 08 fit in?

IMHO, another Clinton is “politics as usual.” That’s not to say that I’d vote for Paul over Hillary, but she’d have to trim her sails. My official position is that “all options (including nuclear) are still on the table.”

So Unity 08 is some sort of DLC wet dream?

Uncrashed just in time to say goodnight to Suz.

You still there ET? If so, let me say how much I appreciate your comments at the Lake. And, I knew you when you were just a tiny pup. Remember? xoxoo VG

I shall bid Ya’ll another fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!

Ed*ard Teller @ 65

neurophius @ 47

Fred Thompson: a balding Herman Munster

or a hairy Uncle Fester.

707! You guys are fabulous!

ok, the meds are getting to me.. make that a hot bath and not a hot batch

thanks tj, glad you are uncrashed.
ct, aloha
npb, thanks again

tub is full and i’m off… (poof)

With laughter, I shall wish you all a goodnight too. Thanks for sharing my night.

twȝk @ 70

wigwam @ 68

IMHO, another Clinton is “politics as usual.” That’s not to say that I’d vote for Paul over Hillary, but she’d have to trim her sails. My official position is that “all options (including nuclear) are still on the table.”

So Unity 08 is some sort of DLC wet dream?

I see unity on principles and policies, but not on personalities and parties.

Given the choice between a Republican who’ll bring the troops home immediately and disavow attacks against nations that have not attacked us and disavow torture and spying on American citizens and internment w/o Habeas Corpus vs. a Democrat who will not commit to bringing the troops home before the end of her first term and who insists on keeping nuclear attack against Iran on the table, and who has not been speaking out strongly on matters of civil liberties, I’m keeping all my options on the table.

wigwam @ 77

twȝk @ 70

So Unity 08 is some sort of DLC wet dream?

I see unity on principles and policies, but not on personalities and parties.

Given the choice between a Republican who’ll bring the troops home immediately and disavow attacks against nations that have not attacked us and disavow torture and spying on American citizens and internment w/o Habeas Corpus vs. a Democrat who will not commit to bringing the troops home before the end of her first term and who insists on keeping nuclear attack against Iran on the table, and who has not been speaking out strongly on matters of civil liberties, I’m keeping all my options on the table.

It sounds to me like both of those candidates ought to switch parties.

nite TJ

twȝk @ 70

wigwam @ 68

IMHO, another Clinton is “politics as usual.” That’s not to say that I’d vote for Paul over Hillary, but she’d have to trim her sails. My official position is that “all options (including nuclear) are still on the table.”

So Unity 08 is some sort of DLC wet dream?

***
I notice that among the few of its advisors, directors, etc. who list party affiliation, it’s almost always “R”. Meaningful?

Valley Girl @ 72

You still there ET? If so, let me say how much I appreciate your comments at the Lake. And, I knew you when you were just a tiny pup. Remember? xoxoo VG

My guru from 2005! {{{{{VG rocks}}}}}

CD @ 80

twȝk @ 70

So Unity 08 is some sort of DLC wet dream?

***
I notice that among the few of its advisors, directors, etc. who list party affiliation, it’s almost always “R”. Meaningful?

Meaning, perhaps, that “Unity 08″ is a scam to undermine the Democratic Party?

Ed*ard Teller @ 81

Valley Girl @ 72

You still there ET? If so, let me say how much I appreciate your comments at the Lake. And, I knew you when you were just a tiny pup. Remember? xoxoo VG

My guru from 2005! {{{{{VG rocks}}}}}

My honor, ET. Absolutely.

Valley Girl @ 83

Ed*ard Teller @ 81

My guru from 2005! {{{{{VG rocks}}}}}

My honor, ET. Absolutely.

One of the best things you taught me is that it isn’t OK to trash TRex’s pad, but it IS tolerated, as long as you come back and clean up afterward…

Glad you’re here, ET.
As for me, snoozing awaits.
nite pups

Ed*ard Teller @ 84

Valley Girl @ 83

My honor, ET. Absolutely.

One of the best things you taught me is that it isn’t OK to trash TRex’s pad, but it IS tolerated, as long as you come back and clean up afterward…

well, you have a much better memory than I do on that account. ;) but I do remember when the w got changed to *. {{{{ET}}}}

Peter Ackerman

Ackerman elaborated on the concept involved. He proposed that youth movements, such as those used to bring down Serbia, could bring down Iran and North Korea, and could have been used to bring down Iraq – thereby accomplishing all of Bush’s objectives without relying on military means. And he reported that he has been working with the top US weapons designer, Lawrence Livermore Laboratories, on developing new communications technologies that could be used in other youth movement insurgencies.

Sounds like a treat :/

CD @ 80

twȝk @ 70

So Unity 08 is some sort of DLC wet dream?

***
I notice that among the few of its advisors, directors, etc. who list party affiliation, it’s almost always “R”. Meaningful?

Sounds like another bipartisanship-ploy to me. We all know where those go.

Speaking only for myself, I’m an outraged progressive. I won’t compromise, not even for Hillary. If she gets the nomination, she damn well better show me better progressive credentials than Jamie Gorelick, Michael O’Hanlon, Martin Indyk, and Haim Saban. I’m not impressed with those she’s hanging out with — they’re neocons, which is politics as usual.

Valley Girl @ 86

well, you have a much better memory than I do on that account. ;) but I do remember when the w got changed to *. {{{{ET}}}}

Bill Clinton’s fault…

twȝk @ 87

Peter Ackerman

Ackerman elaborated on the concept involved. He proposed that youth movements, such as those used to bring down Serbia, could bring down Iran and North Korea, and could have been used to bring down Iraq – thereby accomplishing all of Bush’s objectives without relying on military means. And he reported that he has been working with the top US weapons designer, Lawrence Livermore Laboratories, on developing new communications technologies that could be used in other youth movement insurgencies.

Sounds like a treat :/

***
Small world! Ackerman happens to be a member of Unity 08’s advisory council.

twȝk @ 87

Peter Ackerman

Ackerman elaborated on the concept involved. He proposed that youth movements, such as those used to bring down Serbia, could bring down Iran and North Korea, and could have been used to bring down Iraq – thereby accomplishing all of Bush’s objectives without relying on military means.

How could Bush become a “war president” without military means?

Ed*ard Teller @ 89

Valley Girl @ 86

well, you have a much better memory than I do on that account. ;) but I do remember when the w got changed to *. {{{{ET}}}}

Bill Clinton’s fault…

And no one who has not been here since forever will know what we are talking about!!!! (Hint- something about typewriter/ keyboard keys)

Poor Fred, figured “WTF? I’ve got as good a chance as the rest of these losers.” The Republicans have nuthin’, and I mean NUTHIN’.

Valley Girl @ 92

Ed*ard Teller @ 89

Bill Clinton’s fault…

And no one who has not been here since forever will know what we are talking about!!!! (Hint- something about typewriter/ keyboard keys)

My mother told me that in her day, they had to use O and l for 0 and 1 (captal oh and lower-case el for zero and one).

Depends upon the direction the weapon is pointed and for what purpose.

One of my secret informers just provided me with a link re: the keyboard issue.

The White House vandal scandal that wasn’t

~~”Incoming staffers of the Bush White House,” Grove wrote, were “apparently victims of a practical joke.” Bush aides in the Old Executive Office Building (EOB), adjacent to the White House, discovered that “many computer keyboards in their work spaces are missing the W key — as in President Bush’s middle initial.”

Some W keys were discovered “taped on top of the doorways,” while others were broken. ~~~~

Tech @ 93

Poor Fred, figured “WTF? I’ve got as good a chance as the rest of these losers.” The Republicans have nuthin’, and I mean NUTHIN’.

So, it appears that Paul has some real traction with the young, and with some folks who have money. On domestic policy he’s a libertarian nutcase or worse. But on foreign policy, IMHO, he’d shame most of the Democratic candidates, and I’d love to see that. Most especially, Hillary would have a lot of backpedaling to do.

Tech @ 93

Poor Fred, figured “WTF? I’ve got as good a chance as the rest of these losers.” The Republicans have nuthin’, and I mean NUTHIN’.

They have the entire media complex, owners and Villagers, on their side, plus the entire military industrial complex at their command until January 2009. Don’t count them out, yet. Oh, and Diebold.

On that note, ‘pups, I bid a fond good nite.

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

hey ET – if you’re still around…. thought you might want to know something i found while putting together the weekly list of congressional hearings today (yesterday, now)…. it looks like joe lieberman is going to be visiting you this week:

Thursday, October 11, 2007

9 am – Senate Homeland Security
Field hearing: The State and Federal Response to Storm Damage and Erosion in Alaska’s Coastal Villages (Anchorage, Alaska).

Good night, Teddy.

Freddy makes Ross Perot’s selection for VP, Admiral James “Who am I? Why am I here?” Stockdale seem like a paragon of preparation.

CTuttle @ 28

punaise @ 22

I’m sure Teddy or another Bay Arean already posted this, but just in case:

“wurth” a read.

Finally! The will to fight is there…

“We need to fight back and not be reluctant – that if they come after you with a knife, to pull out a gun,” said California Democratic strategist Chris Lehane, former spokesman for President Bill Clinton’s White House and Vice President Al Gore’s 2000 presidential campaign.

The back-channel on all this was that it was funded by big-time out-of-state Rudy Ghouliani supporters. Which explains why Rudy was spending so much time in the State that he knew he couldn’t win outright. He had to know what was going on. After all, Rudy certainly is cognizant of why they scheduled so much time in those Republican districts in the Central Valley and Orange County! Rudy was out to “game” the system in California.

And if these big money people from outside the State thought this was so fair for voters…why weren’t they pushing it in other States, too? But you won’t find any such measures being forwarded in any Red States by these folks. I wonder why? Sure, they have a special place in their hearts for California voters.

That special little “black spot”!

Quite frankly why any voter would have supported this change to Californias Constitution…which would have devalued the average Californians vote in the Electoral College by half; and made Californias clout in the Presidential election about that of North Carolina…simply befuddles me.

It’s also an essential admission that Republicans are unlikely to win a majority of California voters to their philosophy for a very long time. Even Arnold pointed that out…saying that it would be a prescription for the Repugs to push even more extreme Republicans into the Presidential race…rather than reach out to independents and Democrats and win the election outright.

wigwam @ 56

I want whoever the Democratic presidential candidate to have to face Ron Paulneurophius @ 47

Fred Thompson: a balding Herman Munster

IMHO, all three of the GOP frontrunners will self-destruct, which will leave Paul vs St. McCain.

That battle will be a sight to behold! And, I pray for a Paul win, because I’d love to see Hillary face someone who (on foreign policy) is far to the left of her.

The irony would be that she REALLY MIGHT have to start being less aggro in the foreign policy arena. Someone pointed out that Hillary has had two “policy makeovers” this campaign already…where her statements have changed to more nuanced.

Maybe her views on Iran and keeping troops in Iraq can be altered as well.

wigwam @ 67

twȝk @ 61

How the hell does Unity 08 fit in?

IMHO, another Clinton is “politics as usual.” That’s not to say that I’d vote for Paul over Hillary, but she’d have to trim her sails. My official position is that “all options (including nuclear) are still on the table.”

Paul might be able to win in the General Election given the fact that he is staunchly pro-life and up to 20% of the Right Wing Republicans say that they won’t support a candidate that isn’t Pro-Life. Throw in the libertarians…plus the vitriolic Clinton-haters and anti-war voters that don’t trust Hillary and you may just have enough to win against her. In that case I hope that a TON of Progressives win Congressional and Senatorial seats to block his other initiatives. Hard to think of who he would nominate for the Supreme Court over the next few years.

And I think if Paul does very well in the Republican primaries and still doesn’t win the nomination he may just go “Independant”. That would likely kill the Republicans, despite siphoning off the above groups to Paul.

Cinamonape @104
“Maybe her views on Iran and keeping troops in Iraq can be altered as well.”
————-

or her *purported* views.

SunnyNobility @ 106

Cinamonape @104
“Maybe her views on Iran and keeping troops in Iraq can be altered as well.”
————-

or her *purported* views.

Well. If she is being misquoted…or her nuances are being omitted…then it will at least comel her to clarify them.

Personally I suspect she needs to REVISE them. She really shouldn’t be talking about the use of nuclear weapons in the context of Iran…or any other nation. That’s just sabre-rattling. And her statements that she’ll keep forces in Iraq for “anti-terrorism” activities pretty much means they’ll be there permanenly and likely will continue to be involved in the civil war with the Sunni and Shiite militias…since these groups will target the “occupiers”, not just their opponents.

To me her remarks that she will “end the war” during her term almost is reminiscent of Nixon’s “I’ve got a secret plan” statements in 1968. She doesn’t outright say that we’ll fully withdraw and leave it up to the Iraqis to govern/defend their country , and do so come hell or high water.

Good morning!

Stupid Google Reader trick

egregious @ 109

Good morning!

morning

cinnamonape @ 107

SunnyNobility @ 106

Cinamonape @104
“Maybe her views on Iran and keeping troops in Iraq can be altered as well.”
————-

or her *purported* views.

Well. If she is being misquoted…or her nuances are being omitted…then it will at least comel her to clarify them.

Personally I suspect she needs to REVISE them.

Mea culpa. Meant to say professed, not purported. Big difference!

I agree with you and only wonder whether she is expressing politically calculated or honestly held views. Either way, worrisome.

Good morning, pups. Today in the NYT Roger Cohen writes about Carol Ann Gotbaum who died in the Phoenix airport and remembers his mother in a column titled “Terror and Demons.” Paul Krugman points out that far from having “strayed from true conservatism” W. is its very model.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee and tea are ready, and the biscuits just came out of the oven. Happy Columbus Day — enjoy the long weekend if you’re lucky enough to have one. The rest of us will soldier on in the workplace being jealous!

egregious @ 108

Good morning!

Morning egregious. That wow! activity near the moon continues. Appears to refract light differently from run o’the mill stars.

Good Morning, Firepups!

It’s clear and mild this morning in central Jersey. We have one more day of summer weather, and then the temperatures will fall the rest of the week to more seasonal weather [days in the 60s, nights in the 40s]. To those of you with a holiday today, enjoy the day off.

Mr. NJP and I are planning a long weekend in the mid-Hudson Valley in November, our first getaway since his parents’ health problems began last April. We’d like to pick a charming village, and are looking at Woodstock [no, it’s not where the concert actually happened; that was Bethel], Saugerties, and Cold Spring. Any suggestions from NYS Firepups are welcome. Lots of historic sites are only open seasonally, and close at the end of October, but the big ones are open: FDR Home/Library/Museum, Val-Kill, Mohonk Mountain House, the Vanderbilt Mansion. We’re less interested in being tourists, and more interested in stopping in great villages, time to catch up on some reading. Not sure if we’ll go to CIA for dinner [that’s the Culinary Institute of America, a great cooking school, not Spook Central], but would probably prefer smaller places. We deliberately planned to go after leaf season, so things would be quieter. As Noel Coward once wrote, “I always go too early or too late. I arrive in China just before the next revolution.”

Coffee’s ready, and there are fresh bagels and cream cheese this morning. Help yourselves.

Work for peace, every day.

SunnyNobility @ 113

egregious @ 108

Good morning!

Morning egregious. That wow! activity near the moon continues. Appears to refract light differently from run o’the mill stars.

So beautiful.

Mornin’, gang -

njp -

Sounds like a great trip! Got any idea how much a meal at the CIA costs?

Interesting caller segment on Washington Journal asking where people get their news. The usual two sides of an extreme divide…….don’t know if this country is gonna survive just that one aspect of shrub’s reign. Oilfieldguy would have appreciated a trucker who called in and just literally ran bushie poo into the ground. Then you’ve got another caller who accused *him* of having an IQ of 70. Glass houses, stones, and all that. *g*

Mornin’ all!

Report says war on terror is fuelling al Qaeda

Six years after the September 11 attacks in the United States, the “war on terror” is failing and instead fuelling an increase in support for extremist Islamist movements, a British think-tank said on Monday.

A report by the Oxford Research Group (ORG) said a “fundamental re-think is required” if the global terrorist network is to be rendered ineffective.

Stem cell team wins 2007 Nobel for medicine

Stem cell researchers Mario Capecchi, Martin Evans and Oliver Smithies won the 2007 Nobel prize for medicine or physiology for their work on gene changes in mice using embryonic cells, Sweden’s Karolinska Institute said on Monday.

In other news, POTUS George “Monkey Boy” Bush has been consulting his advisors to determine whether or not it is within his power to veto a Nobel Prize.

Twolf—veto a Nobel Prize LOL!

Re: Ron Paul. He scares me some.

Dave Neiwert’s blog Ornicus has a couple posts up about Paul’s association with the Minuteman crowd, rather an eye opener.

Iraq urges Blackwater prosecution

Iraq’s government has called for guards from the US security firm Blackwater to be prosecuted for the shooting of 17 civilians in Baghdad last month.

An official inquiry found the guards had not been attacked, as they had claimed, calling it a deliberate crime.

Blackwater has insisted its employees responded lawfully to an attack. The US embassy is conducting its own probe.

Marion in Savannah @ 112

Good morning, pups. Today in the NYT Roger Cohen writes about Carol Ann Gotbaum who died in the Phoenix airport and remembers his mother in a column titled “Terror and Demons.” Paul Krugman points out that far from having “strayed from true conservatism” W. is its very model.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee and tea are ready, and the biscuits just came out of the oven. Happy Columbus Day — enjoy the long weekend if you’re lucky enough to have one. The rest of us will soldier on in the workplace being jealous!

Holy Crap Marion, the Krugman piece ends with “Talking Heads” references!
Getting a late start today in Fabulous Blue Ridge (an anagram for “I Blur Edge”) GA. 63 degrees, clear (the moon and Venus, Wow!)

twolf -

That’s one of those “Well, duh.” reports. *g*

You *are* joshing about the Nobel veto, aren’t you? Sometimes I really can’t recognize snark.

Waccamaw @ 124

twolf -

That’s one of those “Well, duh.” reports. *g*

You *are* joshing about the Nobel veto, aren’t you? Sometimes I really can’t recognize snark.

Yeah, the notion that chimpy would consult anyone about anything is just plain silly, isn’t it.

twolf1 @ 119

Stem cell team wins 2007 Nobel for medicine

Stem cell researchers Mario Capecchi, Martin Evans and Oliver Smithies won the 2007 Nobel prize for medicine or physiology for their work on gene changes in mice using embryonic cells, Sweden’s Karolinska Institute said on Monday.

In other news, POTUS George “Monkey Boy” Bush has been consulting his advisors to determine whether or not it is within his power to veto a Nobel Prize.

lmao!

Good Morning pups, it’s cloudy here so no moon & star show here

twolf -

Ouch! Got me, you did……not once, but twice. ;-)

Waccamaw @ 127

twolf -

Ouch! Got me, you did……not once, but twice. ;-)

Well, you know what they say — “got me once.. shame on you… uhh.. got me twice.. shame… uhhh… won’t get got again!”

Scarecrow upstairs.

Public Health Versus Private Insurance

Scarecrow upstairs!

twolf1 @ 119

Stem cell team wins 2007 Nobel for medicine

Stem cell researchers Mario Capecchi, Martin Evans and Oliver Smithies won the 2007 Nobel prize for medicine or physiology for their work on gene changes in mice using embryonic cells, Sweden’s Karolinska Institute said on Monday.

In other news, POTUS George “Monkey Boy” Bush has been consulting his advisors to determine whether or not it is within his power to veto a Nobel Prize.

Should that not work out, he could revoke the tax-exempt status of the Lutheran church.

neurophius @ 2

Fred Thompson is a joke!!!

Simple, concise, accurate. Ding!

Loo Hoo. @ 15

Has Fred ever done anything to benefit America?

He left the Senate.

TeddySanFran @ 17

How the Obama fundraising juggernaut got built by Julianna Smoot. Looks like if either of the two current “front-runners” win the nomination, it’ll be a woman’s victory.

I wonder if, when this is over, she’ll be ashamed of herself.

He’s nothing but a place holder meant to gobble up money and prevent a decent candidate like John Edwards from challenging Hillary.

They divide up the Left, so nobody can challenge. Everybody on Hillary’s left is left to running for veep, and that ain’t right.