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		<title>By: nobody</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/06/how-wingnuts-support-the-troops/#comment-1020067</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chris Hill looks like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sadlyno.com/wordpress/uploads/2007/10/oilyraelians.jpg&quot;&gt;Deb Cagan&lt;/a&gt; when she’s not in drag.. and with a badly applied fake nose..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Hill looks like <a href="http://www.sadlyno.com/wordpress/uploads/2007/10/oilyraelians.jpg">Deb Cagan</a> when she’s not in drag.. and with a badly applied fake nose..</p>
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		<title>By: RickinSF</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/06/how-wingnuts-support-the-troops/#comment-1019971</link>
		<dc:creator>RickinSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;These guys are creeps. I would call them a modern day Sturmabteilung, but they’d take it as a compliment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys are creeps. I would call them a modern day Sturmabteilung, but they’d take it as a compliment.</p>
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		<title>By: Irons</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/06/how-wingnuts-support-the-troops/#comment-1019960</link>
		<dc:creator>Irons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dont miss Chris Hill’s speech:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/jp.swf?video_id=yu-qIrRWGX8&amp;eurl=http://www.gatheringofeagles.org/&amp;iurl=http://img.youtube.com/vi/yu-qIrRWGX8/default.jpg&amp;t=OEgsToPDskJOSqg6o-LetCAb9Axh6jMN&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/jp.swf?.....Ab9Axh6jMN&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont miss Chris Hill’s speech:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/jp.swf?video_id=yu-qIrRWGX8&amp;eurl=http://www.gatheringofeagles.org/&amp;iurl=http://img.youtube.com/vi/yu-qIrRWGX8/default.jpg&amp;t=OEgsToPDskJOSqg6o-LetCAb9Axh6jMN">http://www.youtube.com/jp.swf?&#8230;..Ab9Axh6jMN</a></p>
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		<title>By: LetterMan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/06/how-wingnuts-support-the-troops/#comment-1019948</link>
		<dc:creator>LetterMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep, we got those kinds of people up here too, though not quite extreme.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, we have people like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/73423050@N00/526851052/in/photostream/&quot;&gt;this guy&lt;/a&gt; to keep up company on our protests here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, we got those kinds of people up here too, though not quite extreme.  </p>
<p>Anyway, we have people like <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73423050@N00/526851052/in/photostream/">this guy</a> to keep up company on our protests here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/06/how-wingnuts-support-the-troops/#comment-1019823</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 15:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Who is the A..hole to the left rear of the photo? Blackwater????????&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is the A..hole to the left rear of the photo? Blackwater????????</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/06/how-wingnuts-support-the-troops/#comment-1019720</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 12:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBOoN3jbJWE&amp;mode=related&amp;search=&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....mp;search=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Inspiring!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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Inspiring!</p>
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		<title>By: sunsin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/06/how-wingnuts-support-the-troops/#comment-1019605</link>
		<dc:creator>sunsin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1019216&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;egregious @ 167&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1019082&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;hackworth @ 39&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We want people to volunteer to defend our nation….We hear from insiders such as Murtha that we might be destroying our army and marines for a generation.  I find this alarming.  Despite coming thru the Vietnam era as someone fairly  anti-military [truly sorry, raven, et al] I am horrified that we might be truly depleting our remaining defensive assets now.  And for what.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re nuts. What do you need that military for? There is no country on earth that can attack the United States. Geography saw to that, unless you think you’re going to be invaded by Canada or Mexico. In his Lyceum address, 1838, the young Abraham Lincoln said it as well as anyone ever has:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it?– Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!–All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those people you call “patriots” are your enemies. They want to destroy you. And you don’t need them for cannon fodder, either. If the United States minded its own business, it would be able to build its economic and cultural power back up to the point where no other nation could hope to equal it. All of its major competitors, such as China, are facing huge, unavoidable, and perhaps fatal challenges. It is only the United States that is able to indulge in the luxury of dying by self-inflicted and largely voluntary wounds.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1019216"><em>egregious @ 167</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1019082"><em>hackworth @ 39</em></a></p>
<p>We want people to volunteer to defend our nation….We hear from insiders such as Murtha that we might be destroying our army and marines for a generation.  I find this alarming.  Despite coming thru the Vietnam era as someone fairly  anti-military [truly sorry, raven, et al] I am horrified that we might be truly depleting our remaining defensive assets now.  And for what.</p>
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<p>You’re nuts. What do you need that military for? There is no country on earth that can attack the United States. Geography saw to that, unless you think you’re going to be invaded by Canada or Mexico. In his Lyceum address, 1838, the young Abraham Lincoln said it as well as anyone ever has:</p>
<blockquote><p>At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it?– Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!–All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.</p>
<p>At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.</p>
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<p>Those people you call “patriots” are your enemies. They want to destroy you. And you don’t need them for cannon fodder, either. If the United States minded its own business, it would be able to build its economic and cultural power back up to the point where no other nation could hope to equal it. All of its major competitors, such as China, are facing huge, unavoidable, and perhaps fatal challenges. It is only the United States that is able to indulge in the luxury of dying by self-inflicted and largely voluntary wounds.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/06/how-wingnuts-support-the-troops/#comment-1019560</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 05:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1019397&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jay @ 233&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;LS,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am certainly no Rhodes scholar, but I think that a lack of education is the crux of the problem (not speaking about anyone in particular here). When you have no exposure to the world outside of your own affairs, when you can’t identify Mexico on a map (let alone the Middle East), when you don’t read and all of your information comes from American TV and radio….well, this is what you get. Now, surely there are millions of well educated Americans that are on board with the propaganda, and they’re even more sickening.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well..the people I speak of have lived all over the world…as I have.  The people I know that have those opinions are either…military families who have lived in Asia/SE Asia for military reasons, or families that are diplomatically-connected families, living both in Europe and Asia/SE Asia.  In my case, diplomatic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1019397"><em>Jay @ 233</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>LS,</p>
<p>I am certainly no Rhodes scholar, but I think that a lack of education is the crux of the problem (not speaking about anyone in particular here). When you have no exposure to the world outside of your own affairs, when you can’t identify Mexico on a map (let alone the Middle East), when you don’t read and all of your information comes from American TV and radio….well, this is what you get. Now, surely there are millions of well educated Americans that are on board with the propaganda, and they’re even more sickening.</p>
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<p>Well..the people I speak of have lived all over the world…as I have.  The people I know that have those opinions are either…military families who have lived in Asia/SE Asia for military reasons, or families that are diplomatically-connected families, living both in Europe and Asia/SE Asia.  In my case, diplomatic.</p>
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		<title>By: Beerfart Liberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/06/how-wingnuts-support-the-troops/#comment-1019546</link>
		<dc:creator>Beerfart Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 05:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is there any reason Chris Hill is such an ugly motherfucker?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/06/how-wingnuts-support-the-troops/#comment-1019455</link>
		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 04:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1019436&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jay @ 237&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; . . .&lt;br /&gt;
Tough choices ahead, I have no doubt.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Agreed. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are lucky in that we’ve no children.&lt;br /&gt;
Our actions are accountable to only our selves. Although if we DID have children, I’m sure my wife would insist we set a gold bar standard of principle.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MY parents did, and I got lucky marrying the woman I did. ;-) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best to you, and all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On to the next thread . . . ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1019436"><em>Jay @ 237</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p> . . .<br />
Tough choices ahead, I have no doubt.</p>
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<p>Agreed. </p>
<p>We are lucky in that we’ve no children.<br />
Our actions are accountable to only our selves. Although if we DID have children, I’m sure my wife would insist we set a gold bar standard of principle.</p>
<p>MY parents did, and I got lucky marrying the woman I did. ;-) </p>
<p>Best to you, and all.</p>
<p>On to the next thread . . . ;-)</p>
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