(Naomi Wolf is the author of The End of America: Letter of Warning To A Young Patriot. She has written extensively about Blackwater and joins us in the comments — jh)
Congress is finally asking questions of Erik Prince, the head of Blackwater, the private mercenary organization that massacred seventeen civilians in Iraq recently. As I mentioned before, Blackwater operates in Iraq entirely outside the rule of law and has close ties to the White House. The New York Times today reported just how close — Prince’s sister-in-law is a major Bush fundraiser and ally.
What still evades the framing of this debate, though, is that the violent lawlessness perpetrated against civilians in Iraq by this newly created thug caste is a taste of what is in store for us at home — unless Congress confronts the President’s and Prince’s plans to bring Blackwater increasingly to a neighborhood near you. It is remarkable that the hearings focus on what Blackwater is doing in Iraq — but not on what Blackwater plans to and is legally able to do here in the US when the President determines there is a `public emergency’ that requires the restoration of `public order’ — a power that he arrogated more completely with the 2007 Defense Authorization Act. The second phase of the blueprint of what I have called in The End of America a `fascist shift’ is what we are beginning to see now: increasing physical intimidation of civilians and increasing staging or provocation of situations in the a federalized national guard or a Blackwater paramilitary force is sent in at the behest of a leader — over the heads of the people’s representatives — to `restore public order.’ I note that Congress is outraged that there were plans to stage a fake scenario of a dirty bomb detonation in three US cities next week — plans that were not fully revealed to Congress. The second stage of a fascist shift on the blueprint I identified in The End of America calls for disorienting public spectacles, sudden scenes of shocking violence against civilians (see the tasering of a student in Gainesville, Florida, and the death of a woman who looks like you or me in a holding cell in the Phoenix airport) and the declaration that a situation is unstable so call for a paramilitary force in order to keep the people safe.
Congress doesn’t get who Blackwater contractors are. Prince likes to wrap his people in the flag and say they are facing `bad guys.’ Prince actually systematically recruits the baddest of the `bad guys’: Jeremy Scahill reports that Blackwater intentionally recruits former military and paramilitary personnel from regimes that specialize in neofascist repression of their own populations and who train their paramilitary and military in the torture and subjugation of their own critics, journalists, political leaders and other civil society figures: Ecuadorans, Nigerians, Chileans, Syrians. That is who we can find ourselves facing in the streets of New York — or Kansas City — tomorrow unless Congress rolls back the horrific laws that gave the President and Prince these dark-side powers.
Remember: Italy was a parliamentary democracy — with newspapers, cinema, a wide span of political parties, dissent and a vital modern culture — when the Blackshirts began to beat selected individuals in newspaper offices, in the countryside, around voting booths. Italy was still a democracy when the Blackshirts murdered a major opposition figure, shocking a society that was still technically free into silence. Same tactic was used by the National Socialists — who studied Mussolini — before they came formally to power. In what was still a working democracy a targeted paramilitary responded to Hitler’s directives – intimidating protesters, beating up critics, essentially taking ownership of the streets — even while Germany still had a working Parliament and Constitution. Remeber when TSA officials were making passengers at the airport drink their baby’s milk — including human breast milk? Both the Blackshirts and the Brownshirts forced citizens to drink liquids such as emetics as anintimidation tactic.
Reports are coming in from around the US that passengers in line at airports are being told by TSA agents to `FREEZE!!’ in line — for up to half an hour. A Mills College professor was taken into a holding cell (most of us don’t know that US airports now have what are essentially interrogation cells — Maher Arar was kept in one for two days and prevented by US agents from calling his lawyer — then rendered to Syria for torture). She was told that if she moved she would be considered to be assaulting her interrogator. For the record, National Socialists forced their prisoners to freeze in place — sometimes until they dropped.
Immigrants are being rounded up and the men separated from the women — another chilling scene from the infamous past, and a new scene in America – then deported en masse to holding areas in another state — leaving babies and children behind. Agents rounding them up are breaking into their homes, smashing glass. A mayor in the reddest of red states, Alabama, said a predawn raid that cleared out his town was like `a Gestapo tactic’. Again in the case of the raids we see that the State begins its crackdown with people at the margins, then moves to the heart of society; but in all these cases, what is clear is that the State is habituating citizens to being moved around at gunpoint, physically intimidated or frightened by representatives of the government. Once people are scared of being hurt if they speak up democracy is more than halfway closed down; physical fear silences people that can never be quieted if they know that they are, as the Founders intended, safe in dissent — or simply while waiting in line at the airport.
Congress shouldn’t just be questioning Prince about Iraq; it should be prohibiting any activity of mercenaries on our soil, and investigating the crimes committing in tyhe course of this administration’s determination to gut the Second Amendment and to give the executive his own bloody army of proven torturers, ready to train on citizens here as well as at home.



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Hi Naomi!
Wow busted!
zed.
Welcome, Naomi, thanks for being here.
The Waxman hearings earlier this week were certainly enlightening. Prince is certainly a smug bastard, isn’t he.
I got the spinning wheel of death at comment #8 downstairs.
Good Morning, Naomi!
Appreciate all your work. Thank you!
Condi in command.
AP – An internal State Department review ordered by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice recommends overhauling U.S. diplomatic security practices in Iraq after the Blackwater USA shooting incident in which 13 Iraqis were killed, a senior U.S. official said Friday.
I posted this downstairs and it is more on point here;
ok, so here is the new thing for democrats to do, go right in the face of the republican brand
straight up, say;
“so who do we beleive, this adminsitration?…or our military>”
and of course referance things like think progress has documented here;
follow those kinds of facts with things like this and PUNISH their brand;
“the administration doesn’t trust our military one bit, they hire criminals and they circumvent success”
What she describes here is real. It has been happening in this country for years now.
The police state that we are, really , has been reinforced by this fascist regime.They have been slowly ratcheting up the pressure, here and there, quietly setting the stage to crush all dissent.
Naomi, you are more than correct that Congress should actively question what is happening here, on American soil and also what is apparently planed for ‘later’. Do you think they will do so in sustained fashion?
Thank you, Naomi. I am currently reading Shock Doctrine. Are people aware of the Prince family’s extensive ties and allegiance to the Dobson Family Research Council?
I feel so much better now.
AP – President Bush defended his administration’s detention and interrogation policies for terrorism suspects on Friday, saying they are both successful and lawful.
I suspect that if Blackwater gets used for ‘enforcement’ here, we’d be seeing their foreign thugs, the ones with no ties to our society. I don’t think they could afford to have their thugs turn against them and start siding with the people.
Hi everybody! Thank you so much for welcoming me. This is an amazing forum and I am thrilled to be here even though the subject at hand is pretty chilling.
Didn’t the House pass some form of legislation yesterday to require Blackwater to be held up to US laws while in Iraq?
I unfortunately had to miss much of the Prince quesitoning. Are foreign contractos brought into work for Blackwater given 2 Visas (how hard are these to get for a reguler foreign worker?) and a US security clearance?
Thank you, Naomi, for your analysis on the US rush to fascism.
Welcome Naomi!
I’ve always been a fan of your writing and books…
What happen to Christy’s ‘Begging for Scraps’?
Naomi — Thanks so much for the post, and especially for shedding more light on the subject. Lots of disinfecting sunlight needed here, and then some…
I think Blackwater will be easier for most people to understand once a huge floodlight is trained on them. More so than weedier topics. Thanks Naomi.
Naomi, do you think Prince is partially driven in his Blackwater procedures and practices by religious radicalism or do you think it is purely profiteering?
We watch what’s happening in Burma and say, “That’s terrible, thank God it can’t happen here.”
But maybe it already is…
Arrogance? Who’s worse? Cheney, Bush or Prince? Mr. Prince is the commander of the world’s most powerful private army. And the other two have their finger on the nuclear trigger.
David W. Bartoo @ 10
David, I don’t think they have the information that you now have about the nature of the torturers who work for Blackwater or about the impkications of Blackwater’s plans to mobilize here at home. I know Jeremy Scahill testified but sometimes it takes masses of voices yelling at Congresspeople to get them to connect the dots. This outrage about Blackwater could be an opening moment in our ability to turn things around — IF we speak up — because nothing mobilizes people – Republican or Democrat — to take the aggressive action now needed in our defense like the prospect of this kind of terror close to home and directed at us and our loved ones. So please call your representative and email this post to every member of Congress so that they get what is at stake for THEM.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 12
And we all believe him because he’s been sooooo trustworthy in the past, right? HA!
Cáitín @ 17
My bad, it’ll be up later.
If this forum is just learning about blackwater in some detail, you can be sure the general public is clueless.
Every American knows the Miranda Rights dialogue from hearing it on teevee every day – several times a day. Cop/prosecutor shows permeate the teevee schedule. The protagonists have morphed from the gumshoe detectives of twenty years ago to the hardass cops and prosecutorial players of today.
No doubt that consumers (erstwhile citizens) are being conditioned on many levels for life in a police state.
Congress may already be to frightened to act itself. It would explain a lot. Why “weak tea” Harry Reid and Pelosi, and the gang habitually abet and accompany Bushco on their thuggary.
The question remains: will the new president get rid of Blackwater?
Ms. Wolf,
There seems to be an explosion of very good books about major syatemic problems in the USA right now, and yours is one of he best! I got our local college library to order it, and am calling the two local towns which have libraries, requesting them to order it today. We need to get more books like yours, Naomi Klein’s Charlie Savage’s, Dan Gilgoff’s, Walt and Mearsheimers’ – and so on – into our community and campus libraries. Locally, they are under growing pressure to buy books favoring rightwing narratives, so we need to take actions as individuals to counter this.
Thanks for all you do to uncover the truth Naomi.
We have heard the Bush administration and many of our Reps. demand that the Iraqi Government “step up to the plate and take responsibility for the direction of their country”. The Iraqi Government has asked Blackwater to leave the country.
Will we witness the Bush administration and many of our Reps continue to undermine this demand?
Hey Jane did you know Glen Greenwald mentions you in his latest article.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/g…..index.html
I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s annoyed by the TSA/DHS “security theater” and creeping fascism these days.
How is it that these guys aren’t all guilty of some massive conspiracy/racketeering charges?
Josh Marshall (or one of his readers; I remember seeing this line there, but forget who said it) had a line about how we’re going to need a truth and reconcilation process after this Administration leaves town.
Assuming, of course, (1) that they do, and (2) that there isn’t some intervening period of authoritarian violence (Giuliani Time, anyone?).
Naomi Wolf @ 23
I certainly hope you are right. But I am a wee bit bothered to have to consider that Congress does not yet have the information the rest of us have. Kind of makes me wonder just how seriously they take their jobs. Even a smidgen of curiosity would be welcome these days.
Naomi,
I and others have been using the F word for months and no one seems to get it. Too many people think that our democratic institutions are here to protect us and can work for the people.
Sadly this is no longer true. We are well past the halfway point to the F state. We just had an “immigration” raid in Long Island NY with all the assault rifles and intimidating show of force to round up some gardeners who were working for a pitance.
We need a real general strike to show these mofa that the people will not be intimidated.
The whole country has to say NO. ALL AT ONCE.
Thanks for this much-needed work. I haven’t read the book yet but I will soon.
The longer these thuggish practices are allowed to linger the harder they will be to stop. Habituation may be a natural adaptive response, but it won’t help us here. I’m a big proponent of the forceful instant rebuttal/ridicule in the face of mindless authoritarians and bullies, something that has been very much absent from the traditional media for some time. I guess we are about to find out if blogs will help save our civilization or merely document its demise.
Jane Hamsher @ 25
Ok, thanks.
Our netflix for tonight is Iraq For Sale. That is about blackwater, right?
Bustednuckles @ 9
Much longer than most people realize or are willing to admit to themselves. I used to travel around the country buying antiques and I cannot count how many times I was detained, sometimes jailed, with absolutely no cause, no criminal record, searched and had I not been hard headed and lucky I would have been robbed of all my money, auto, and inventory being shipped, many many times. Most of this was long before OKC bombing or 9-11 which only made things worse to the point I quit because it was to risky and no longer an enjoyable job, traveling America.
People.
WAKE UP
Your congress critters are not going to do anything about this.
They either know and don’t care… or don’t care enough to know.
It’s well past time to take back out country.
This democracy broken.
There comes a time in the affairs of man…
hackworth @ 27
Dear Hackworth: you are right that Americans take for granted certain kinds of protections — like their Miranda rights – that have been drilled into them from earliest childhood. That is the beauty of a strong democracy — that even a six-year-old American child will say, `This is a free country.’ The trouble is that concepts like `I can always call my lawyer’ or `I know my rights’ are meaningless, increasingly, in what I have called in The End of America this `fascist shift’. Look at the video on today’s AOL home page of the woman in Phoenix – a woman who looks just like any soccer mom in America — being dragged to the floor, subdued and hauled off while screaming by police. This is a well shot and terrifying video, just as the tasering of Andrew Meyer in Florida was a well -shot and terrifying video. While I don’t have s moking gun, I do know that when citizens in a weakening democracy are being conditioned to fear agents of the state, the state starts to send out images and scenes of citizens being violently subdued. Your Miranda rights mean little or nothing when a true fascist shift is underway in which the State can taser you, keep you from reaching your lawyer or keep you in solitary confinement for three years, all of which are events that are happening to US citizens. Once citizens begin to fear the police or Blackwater or representatives of a federalized National Guard, you can have all the rights in the world on paper but you will be scared to speak up because of the physical intimdation. We have to get it that these people are indeed as Patrick Leahy said this morning perpetrating a violent `secret regime’ that endangers all of us and we have to not only rise up to impeach in a bipartisan manner but also prosecute for treason. They are violent criminals and history shows that the escalation of violence against citizens will only get worse now that we are beginning to put the pieces together. Email Peloi and tell her it is not up to her to take impeachment off the table. The Founders left it up to us.
Great post. As for further evidence of creeping, now crawling, fascism here in America, I have a long time personal friend that heard a knock at the door in the pre-dawn hours last month. This is not friend of a friend…
Apparently it was a team from ICE though they misrepresented themselves as “Police” until the door was open.
It would appear that this is part of a coordinated campaign.
Posted earlier this morning at tpm – many points are dead on with those of this FDL post:
I would be interested in a personality contrast between those who remain in the military and those who prefer to leave and be contractors, paid hugely and with no legal constraints on their behavior. I suspect we would find that the mercenaries have a much higher percentage of sociopaths and narcissists and that these are the very personality types who would most chafe at military discipline. Once you fill units with lots of these people that kind of thinking can feed on itself, magnifying the sense of power, elitism, and even the glorification of sadism.
I agree with ARG (see addendum below). Especially since we seem to have a lawless administration, filled with sociopaths and narcissists or with those who admire such pathology. Put these two together, leaders who feel above the law and mercenaries ready to distinguish themselves as thugs for hire, and you have the recipe for a fascist declaration of martial law to keep We the People “safe.”
Read the books of Alexander Solzhenizen. You will see the mindset and all the risks. The gulags. The camps. The informers. The group think. Loss of a free press. Pick any of his books.
We are in grave danger. The wisps of smoke, if not the giant forest fires can clearly be seen.
Where are our elected leaders? We know many people in the press are in the pay of these thugs. Is that true of Congress as well? Or are they all cowed by threats?
Addendum: (ARG at tpm wrote: “The hair on the back of my neck stands on end when I think that they are training over there so that they can one day be deployed over here. You know, to restrain us, the unpatriotic war questioners.”)
I must say that some of the best voices on all these issues are women.
Naomi Klien
Amy Goodman
Jane Hamsher
Christy Harden Smith
Ariana Huffington
Katrina Van den Hueval
just to name a few
Naomi, I ‘fear’ you have found yourself among many who have become quite ’skeptical’ that our ‘Representatives’ have what it takes to challenge what is and has been a fascist assault on America. The other word which springs to mind is ‘appeasement’ although we all hope for the ‘best’, considerably more may be required of us. Nonetheless, your efforts in spotlighting this latest proof of intent, may well serve as the proverbial ’straw’.
Naomi..this is damn frightening. I have not heard the stories about round-ups.
So we should all be contacting our Reps. demanding that they not only dig into Blackwater’s activities in Iraq but dig into what is happening here on our soil. Creepy Fascist for sure
Naomi Wolf @ 42
Thank you so much for those words of support, Edward. Even though I feel more alarmed every day, I also feel more heartened as more and more Americans across the spectrum rally to the barricades. This is a war and we all need to join. I am struck by hearing that your library is under pressure about right-wing books because I have a chapter on how Goebbels used various tactics to `co-ordinate’ all of German culture and this is a new one for me that reproduces a Goebbels tactic from 1933. Thank you for telling me and yes do push back.
About this stuff at the airports and border crossings. People don’t “have to” fly, and once they were told that they had to take off their shoes at the airport, the entire airline industry should have been shut down due to lack of business.
I also wonder how often these interrogations occur beyond the view of public law enforcement.
Many folks have been warning of this since the early operations in central America. If they’d do it to Vietnam, why not Detroit, or New Orleans, or New York?
Look at what happened to the lawyer Mayfield falsely accused of being involved in the Madrid train bombings on 3.11.
He was even a lawyer and tossed in jail and they would have disappeared him to gitmo too.
If you’ve watched the NYC police at any demonstration they look like the gestapo… they really do.
I told my boss about this yesterday and he treated me like I was some kind of idiot.
We have a lot of trucks that go through Portland every day. I pointed out that this little excersize was going to cause absolute gridlock for miles around Portland, He just shrugged and said, it won’t take long.
Yeah, right.
Naomi “Email Peloi and tell her it is not up to her to take impeachment off the table. The Founders left it up to us.”
Thanks for reminding us
This post nails it.
This post needs to be “Spotlighted” big-time.
Thanks Naomi!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 12
And they make him feel like a real tough guy, not a pretend cowboy.
Reading Naomi’s post makes me wonder if the gutting of our National Guard by ordering it to waste away in Iraq is by design. It helps justify use of paramilitary on our own soil when those who would ordinarily be available to dutifully serve its people are out of commission.
Sparkatus @ 43
That is very interesting and very scary. We are sleepwalking into our own karmic nightmare. The abusers in these videos are apparently police officers. But there is a long historuy in the US as well as elsewhere of agents provocateurs who represent themselves as students, civil rights leaders, etc. but are tasked with advancing a different cause, like provocation. It is very possible possible that these are all simply abusive police — which you will see more and more because human nature becomkes brutalized across the board once torture is sanctioned by the state — but it is also perfectly plausible that violent contractors or trained intelligence agents who use violence in interrogation overseas can be involved with operations domestically. Let me remind everyone that once they have the right to call anyone an `enemy combatant’ then the whole world is a battlefield and anyone is a target.
LS @ 52
Agreed. I will take it on as my civic duty for today.
I have also posted that:
The USA has warlords – Eric Prince is one of them
USA has armed militias – Blackwater, Caci, Triple Canopy, are among them.
We live in a national security lockdown state.
And we are under constant surveillance.
Every call you make is monitored.
Every email you send is monitored.
There are camera recording all over the place.
You have to be searched to board a plane or enter an office building in NYC.
Muzzy @ 56
That is a really good point. Very persuasive.
Muzzy @ 54. You have voiced my own long-held fears! Yes, have they mired the troops in Iraq so they can control us with mercenaries at home?
Here is our New Swat team. Called the local paper when I saw them meeting on campus. They were unaware that this new group was even being put together
http://www.athensnews.com/inde…..y_id=29349
And…
The great FBI and NSA and CIA can’t figure out who was behind the anthrax attacks.
They skeered everybody.. How convenient.
False flag?
Hi Naomi! Love your work, especially your wake-up call to fascism.
Hope to hear your latest on audiobook :)
I just finished Naomi Klein’s The Shock Doctrine and it’s outstanding as well, she highlights the connections between the “shock and awe” treatments of markets, people, minds and the privatization of resources for ultimate corporate control. BushCo at its core.
Keep up the good work!
Naomi, Blackwater were reportedly among the first boots on the ground in NO in the aftermath of Katrina and were reportedly there for the purpose of disarming the citizenry. To your knowledge, did this occur? Also, would it be far fetched to muse that an attack on Iran would have serve the purpose of removing enough US troops and guardsmen from US soil who might otherwise resist a domestic crackdown by this private army? Lastly, the BBC reported that Prescott Bush and a few leading industrialists of the day had plotted to overthrow FDR with the assistance of a private army. Does it seem to you that GWB is following in his grandfather’s footsteps in this regard?
Col. Ann Wright and the Code Pink (I forget her name), were denied access into Canada, because they are on an FBI criminal database.
Muzzy @ 54
Blackwater is reported to be lobbying a number of state governments for contracts to essentially take over what have traditionally been National Guard functions.
Read also THIS, about Mike McConnell’s role in the privatization of security and intel operations.
LS @ 64
Trapped. What is going on with Canada?
Knowing all of this, can we please put an independent investigation of 9/11 back on the table, instead of it being called conspiracy theory?
The desire of Bush & Cheney to use militias has got be related to funds flowing into their own personal accounts. There may be no Deepthroat today, but his advice sounds like it would still work: follow the money.
Astral Technician @ 49
This is a really important point. I had no idea until I interviewed Maher Arar’s lawyer that he was kept by US agents from contacting his attorney for the entire weekend he was held — in a cell in a New York area airport! And this is a North American yuppie who is totally innocent. They couldn’t import the violent subjugation of citizens that we exported and trained leaders to perpetrate in Guatemala, Indonesia, and Chile to the US in the past because we had a working Constitution; the Second Amendment kept the people’s representative sin charge of the National Guard; the Fourth Amendment kept the State from listening in to our calls and monitoring our emails; and we forbade torture or abuse of prisoners — most important of all. Once these protections were gutted by OUR representatives nothing could keep the same tactics that we ignored overseas from being directed against us ourselves.
Google “Directive 51″
Ms. Wolf:
It’s “Erik”, not “Eric” — you know, like a Viking plunderer.
SanderO @ 57
And the Fatherland Security Dept recently proposed that people have to show a passport before being admitted to any federal properties.
Take a clue,
Trans national corporations are driving the world agenda. Governments are there for show these days.. to do their bidding, fight their battles.
I suspect that their agenda is to cull the human population and they don’t care how it’s done… as long as their are fewer mouths to feed. Dark skinned people are expendable.
Wars, tsunamis, hurricanes, are seen as opportunities to remold the world… not political discourse.
I suppose I’m an optimist when I think that the few hundred thousand mercenaries in Iraq are going to be out of a job early in 2009, but I do think that that is so. But I worry terribly about what those people are going to do after the war.
They have no “military career” track to fall back on. They have no VA. They know, and presumably enjoy, packing serious firepower, and using it with impunity.
In past times, privateers became pirates. I am certain that this will happen with the Blackwater “employees” as well. God help us all.
This video is an eye opener’
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
Slaughterhouse Bush continues, the little Junior Fuckwit is so very proud of himself, (crammed through all his slaughter policies while the people were shocked and awed), this clan of Bush White Fucks has slaughtered a lot of fucking people. But, no worries, other than 4k slaughtered/30k maimed Americans, we only have a million or so slaughtered Brown people. Rendition? Fuck you Bush Senior. Indefinite Detention? Fuck you Barbara Bush. Slaughter of brown babies? Fuck you Cheney, Rumsfeld, et. al
Why are you so angry?-
This fuckwit has caused 10-20 years of damage to our citizens!-
Anything else you’d like to say?-
Yeah! You don’t fucking just “create” intelligence. At the very least you don’t let this fuckwit “create” intelligence!-
Kathleen @ 60
“Other participants in the training included four active U.S. Marines who train Marine reserves for a living, and law-enforcement personnel from the Logan Police Department and sheriff’s departments in Athens, Logan and Hocking counties.
The start-up cost of the SWAT team is less than $50,000, the OU release reported, and Martinsen said he funded it primarily with one-time money from last year’s budget. The costs included training and the purchase of special equipment, such as Kevlar helmets, long-range weapons, equipment-storage lockers and ammunition.”
Sounds an awful lot like Blackwater….
Thanks Naomi!
This is also why we have to push-back against Rush Limbaugh – he’s making a clarion call to the Troops, through Armed Forces Radio, that the test of Real Soldiering is Unquestioning Loyalty to Bush’s Ideology – otherwise, you’re a Phony Soldier.
Our best defense is getting as many people as possible to ’see’ the Pernicious Ideology at work and Oppose It Everywhere at the Same Time.
You are doing Great Work!
Good morning Naomi -
Thanks for Shock Doctrine (I’m just beginning it).
Thanks also for calling attention to the use of hypothermia (cold temperature) as a tool of physical torture.
This technique – like many others – has been practiced for some time on the forest defense community in the Pacific Northwest, and then seemed to spread across the US as a tool agaist non-violent civil disobedients in custody.
I’ve learned about this in the course of providing medical support to EarthFirst!, the Ruckus Society, to the ‘99 WTO, IMF/WB 2000, and LA DNC protests/convergences.
I first heard of the technique used against Headwaters Forest activists by the infamous Humboldt County Sheriffs. You’ve probably seen the Sheriffs’ famous film: the video of brutes painting liquid chemical weapons on the eyes of immobilie peaceful protesters.
Nothing like making an atrocity into a new technique for political control.
In California’s “Deep North”, Humboldt County Jail routinely used hypothermia by 1997 and started the chemical weapons torture around that same time.
The video made national news and public outcries – I waited for real political outrage (under Big Dog’s administration) and none came.
After that, the indiscriminate use of chemical weapons against tens of thousands (and the wholesale contamination of thousands more – and their homes and offices – in the Pike Place Market, Broadway, and the center city) at the Seattle WTO protests was no surprise.
For a comprehensive technical discussion of the various “techniques” used to enforce political shock therapy, the best source I know is the European Parliament’s STOA Report:
Appraisal of Technologies of Political Control.
The report helps to place a whole range of specfic outrages and atrocities in the context of intention –
the ruthless pursuit of political control for the service of private power.
Kathleen @ 66
Thad Beier @ 74
But they have the endless “war on terror” so conceivably they will always have jobs. The rise of “disaster capitalism”. It will never end. As Bush himself always “warns”: “There will be no signing of a treaty to end this kind of war.” Occasionally he slips and tells the truth.
Tech @ 65
Dear Tech. I know from Scahill’s excellent book on Blackwater that it is true that they were there. I did not know that they were there for the purpose of disarming citizens. At this very moment you are putting a question in my head — it is oddly worth thinking about to consider that `natural disasters’ are a key part of Balckwater’s future business plan for deployment and to think about the extraordinary inaction in regards to saving New Orleans. I feel myself being drawn into a new dimension of anxiety as I look at some of these patterns you all are calling attention to but we have to look — if you had told me six years ago that we would be wholesaling torture under a US brand I would have felt the same vertigo.
During the Blackwater hearing several days ago, a few Reps brought up Blackwaters hiring practices (Chilean Commandos and related criminal records). The War Crimes Act was also mentioned.
Prince and his lawyer seemed rather nervous when this was mentioned. Any possibility that Blackwater will be held accountable for their crimes?
Naomi Wolf @ 55
In follow up, it would appear that these really were ICE officers, but who knows…
The Nassau County (NY) police are no longer cooperating with ICE because of the botched raid noted up-thread and because of their determination that ICE practices are brutal…and Nassau isn’t exactly a tame area in that regard.
I can put you in touch with the person who was visited if you like. Jet me an email at my gmail account: speakatusDOTsparkatus
Namomi,
I just now watched that video of the woman in Phoenix. What really brought the hair up on my neck was seeing all the people walk by as if nothing was happening. That shakes what little confidence I keep trying to have that we as a people will take our fates into our own hands, courageously, rather than cowering until our fates our set for us.
brendan @ 73
sorry! Erik.
Also, the increasing incremental pressure on airport passengers to get ‘used to’ complying with demands like taking off your shoes and surrendering liquids on command. Even though the ’shoe bomber’ was a mental incompetent and the so-called ‘liquid chemical bomb’ was not even feasible, they still force billions of people to obey orders involving their physical person and personal belongings. They have not rescinded those demands even when there is no chance of either of those things being a real threat to American security – they just want us to get used to taking orders compliantly without question.
Ever trained a horse?
SanderO @ 75
I watched it after you posted it the other day. Lots of good stuff in there.
I had a meeting with a man who had some dealings with the CIA for decades.
His view is that the wars we are fighting are like little blips compared to what war was like in the past centuries. A hundred or two hundred thousand dead is nothing compared to 6 billion humans.
The cost of war is negligible to these people. These are cynical calculations. Human life means nothing to these people… except their own and their family’s.
this is the norm in many inner city communities……nothing new to me……
BTW, Naomi’s book is excellent. If you haven’t read it, I highly recommend it.
As I put it to Gary Hart when he visited here,’What will it take for Bush to be impeached?’
His response was, ‘If you want to impeach, then impeach. Other wise, move on.’
That was very helpful indeed. Impeachment is absolutely and precisely what is required, but Congress still has not found sufficient ‘reason’ to begin doing so. They tell us they are too busy doing other things. Perhaps your next book might address this sad fact. Yes, we have all these wonderful rights, which you have clearly and soberly described as meaning nothing in the face of what is happening. Impeachment should be not require our wheedling and pleading with Congress. We should not have to hold their hands and our noses. Systemic failure is well under way and the political class, by and large, are looking out for themselves, not the country, not the people and definitely not the Constitution. How much ‘better’ do you think a Clinton Presidency will be? Without impeachment, I cannot see that there will be much improvement, but maybe they will fire Blackwater and hire some other ‘water’.
In my case Ms Klien is preaching to the choir. This is true for many pups at the lake.
The problem is the other 300 million lemmings.
Amen, Naomi. Amen.
The first part of the coup is complete: we have an absolutist monarch, “elected”. Now comes the second part: manifest fascism.
Greetings Naomi, incredibly important work you are doing, big respect.
A while back there was a flurry of worry about an upcoming NORTHCOM exercise, VIGILANT SHEILD, slated for Oct 15-20.
their helpful statement can be found here:
http://www.northcom.mil/News/2….._sheet.pdf
Have you or others here heard any more about this, or others like it?
Are entities like Blackwater included in these?
cheers.
Kathleen @ 85
Well we are in a war and the war is psychological on both sides as well as physical and tactical. I did not know this and it is important. If he seemed nervous — as he should — it is because wide awareness of Americans’ part of the foreign and criminal makeup of his people and of his future plans to deploy here will alone be what it takes to stop him. PLease spread the word as far as you can. Will he be held accountable for his crimes? I will be annoying now but we all have to change how we think about agency. It is up to us. We need to lead this charge. The timing of democracy is over — we can’t just talk about this, we have to act. Tell your congressperson you are a Republican and tell him/her to initiate hearings for prosecution for war crimes and treason.
and unless and until the dems grow a spine this will continue….and so far dems are rolling over….
LS @ 88
And the Iraqi people have been put through this in the early 90’s and now find their country turned into a living hell as a direct result of our invasion.
Wonder why people hate us?
Congress could impeach in a week. It’s all out there already.. no investigation necessary.
There are hundreds of charges to be brought which are impeachable offenses by this admin.
Thanks Ralph Nadar. Hardly any difference eh?
for folks still shaking their heads over the flag lapel flap…thanks to Senor horsedooty for remembering this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp1mIYJNKWQ
Naomi Wolf @ 82
Naomi, I’m not seeking to hog the thread, but I do have specific data medics who were with the Common Ground medical clinic in NOLA immediately after Katrina (and in the days therefater).
They reported Blackwater having very direct “hands-on” roving patrols in poor areas, using live weapons against distant targets for no apparetn reason. The armed Blackwater teams also looted, and took goods (including weapons) from residents.
The medics who reprorted this to me are all people I’ve known for years and found to be most accurate in their prior reporting.
SanderO @ 91
We should be aware of this. Again, torture: if these people can LEGALIZE the torture og human beings and buold what are essentially concentration camps — not death camps, there is a difference — in Iraq — that house CHILDREN — see the Washington Post — can we reasonably assume they are moved to horror by a series of other people’s kids’ deaths? It is not civilization as usual now. We also on the left need to understand that as urgent as ending the Iraq war seems to be, we will have troubles that so far eclipse this war if we don’t halt this murderous regime. And there will be no way to sdtop this or any war unless we do confront this regime. We need to shift our energies — first liberty and the rule of law above all. Only then can we meaningfully make any policy.
The reason that there is no impeachment is because it represents a real accountability moment for ALL in power. What’s good for the geese is good for the ganders.
None of these slackers are willing to have accountability moments.
Fakes, frauds and phonies.
In Washington this week, all eyes are on the Blackwater hearings. But the relentless focus on potential atrocities committed by unaccountable, grotesquely overpaid private security firms in Iraq and Afghanistan obscures the larger issue for the United States. That is, mercenary forces simply should have no place in the national defense of an American democracy.
For the details, see:
“The Meaning of Blackwater.”
Kitt @ 85
There is only one small positive that is going to come out of that incident. It’s my understanding that the woman who died is the stepdaughter of the NYC consumer advocate, i.e., she was connected to power. And it’s a power with access to money and investigation resources. So it should be a more complete and accurate investigation, which it wouldn’t be if it were someone like me.
blockquote>Good morning Naomi -
Thanks for Shock Doctrine (I’m just beginning it).
ah…that would be Klein’s book?
Naomi Wolf @ 96
I recall Prince also making a ludicrous claim that before hiring any Chileans or folks from other countries with the human rights abuses, Blackwater “checked the countries’ criminal databases” to “assure no criminals were being hired.”
Anybody wanna buy a bridge?
kirk murphy @ 79
Wrong Naomi…*g* Naomi Klein wrote this one.
Oh please they killed JFK and quoshed the the truth… the quoshed the 9.11 investigation.
These people have enormous power… and they don’t play by the rules.
This junta believes corporations can do everything under the sun better than a government. Thus the award to Raytheon Technical Services Co., Lockheed Martin Co., Northrop Grumman Corp., Arinc Inc., and Blackwater to aid in the war on drugs. This is a wide ranging scope of work including intelligence & operations.
Ah; nothing like the fox guarding the hen house and never ending wars!
Naomi, Thank you for your bravery in researching and publishing this book. What can we do to keep it in the forefront? While we move from issue to issue, Blackwater is making deals in this country to further entrench itself as the “military of choice”.
What organizations are focusing specifically on private military businesses in the US? Which ones, if any, would you recommend so we can be consistent, on-going activists?
Congress is impotent. I wish that were not the case, but I just can’t count on them. I still include them so they can never say they didn’t hear from the people, but I don’t count on them.
Very good post, Ms. Klein.
I suspect this Congress will not repeal any of these laws, given there is a working conservative majority. So the question then becomes whether or not a new president, Democratic or otherwise, would support and push for giving the various powers arrogated to the President (control over the National Guard/Repeal of Posse Commitatus) back.
Do you think this is likely? My own suspicion, sadly is that even a Democratic President is unlikely to give power back. As such, even if they don’t horribly abuse them (and people should remember that both the no-fly list and “free speech zones” started under Clinton, not Bush) they will remain on the books as a time bomb.
Overly cynical? Do you think it really is likely these things, which did pass in many cases with Democratic support or at least consent (they sure didn’t filibuster) will be repealed?
read the book
Confessions of and Economic Hitman by John Porter (I believe)
Another eye opener of how they play the power game.
Biodun @ 107
jeebus, what a maroon I am – my humble apologies, Naomi.
Kathleen @ 100
Such a good point. When there is talk about `the war on terror’ you almost never hear about the possibility that reasonable people are joining the insurgency because we are massacreing civilians, holding innocent people’s wives and children hostage in prisons as a way to put pressure on the men, forcibly shaving prisoners beards — again a tactic that is taken straight from the Nazi playbook regarding tactics against Jews — packing innocent Afghanis who are swept up in bounty hunts (where people get 5k per innocent prisoner) into SHIPPING CONTAINERS in which they suffocate, sexually humiliating prisoners, and so on. What would you or I do if an occupying force took our wives and children hostage and massacred Americans in the middle of Times Square and told our representatives that the murderers were accountable to no law? I know what we did last time 200 and something years ago — we started a revolution.
Muzzy @ 54
please repeat your statement in bold. it makes one hell of a lot of sense.
“Immigration raids across the country are fueling a raging debate as authorities across the country struggle to identify the best way to address the immigration crisis, with millions of people calling on the federal government to get tough on illegal immigrants.
In California, a staggering immigration sweep. In neighboring Nevada, 1,300 illegal immigrants arrested in crackdowns at McDonalds restaurants.
Get used to it says Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. He thinks immigration reform might be better, but for now expect law enforcement. “I think we have an obligation to use the tools that we do have at least to achieve what the law currently requires.”
http://ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=612315
Ian Welsh @ 112
Again: It’s Naomi Wolf…*g*
fahrender @ 116
See my #65
I honestly think we are in a slow mo to the end game of america. We are seeing the end and there is nothing we can do.
Economic catastrophe will be the only way out… when the whole thing collapses. More pain.
Biodun @ 118
Ah, I suck. My deepest apologies! Both brilliant though!
Another edition of why are you so fucking angry…
Why are you so angry? Because Kerry lost the election?-
No, but close. After the fucking election Fuckwit and Erik Prince did ramp-up the slaughter. Rolled the tanks into Fallujah and slaughtered a lot of fucking Brown people and a few Whites. Fucking made a a lot of fucking money though, eh, Erik?-
Ian Welsh @ 121
Yep. Whence the confusion…*g*
Naomi,
We are not going to start the needed second american revolution.
We are outgunned and cowards.
We like TV and cell phones… and sports.
We have been sonambulized into fascism.
SanderO @ 119
Like Weimar?
Ian Welsh @ 114
Ok everyone I am Naomi Wolf!! :). The other Naomi is very smart and I am flattered but to save confusion it seems useful to read both books side by side — they complement each other. First, I think we can’t count on `the next President’ in any meaningful way unless we restore the rule of law — see the ten-point legislative agenda at AmericanFreedomCampaign.org to support that, it is crucial. At the end of my book (which is The End of America) I play out a series of `what ifs’ based on the historical blueprint that close down an open society — that is why the next 18 months are so dangerous unless we rise up now.
And you are right -=- powers such as this are as scary in the hands of a President Hillary as a President Giuliani. The Founders knew that it was human nature to abuse power if it was unchecked — that is why they set up the system as they did.
BTW, Naomi:
I loved the way you handled Greenspan…*g*
Perhaps the immigrants will fight the fascists here. They are the ones being most targeted today.
Soon they will just mow them down and not bother deporting them.. too expensive.
Me @ 127:
707! Now I’m doing it!
WOW two brilliant Naomis in one blog.
Beware of the Council on Foreign Relations… these are very dangerous folks
LS @ 117
Seems to me this immigration obsession popped up rather suddenly and explosively last year.
Perfectly serves the attack at the margins and move inward approach.
I’m going out to get a chinstrap for my tinfoil hat.
I’d thought it was just another random event, perhaps less random than we’d like to think…and very much of a piece with de-sensitization of people to an intrusive state through the TSA. How is it that taking off my flip-flops makes flying safer again? And liquids? It’s not like they don’t carry and sell liquor on the plane.
Take a look at this DHS “training” exercise coming up that was referred to upthread:
http://www.dhs.gov/xprepresp/t…..26237.shtm
Make no mistake the current Republican Party has taken a page out of history. They have created a private army whose CEO is a far right wing ideologue. In that regard he is not that different from Ernst Roehm, a veteran of the German army, who was encouraged to form the Brown Shirts. Blackwater, at it’s core, is the military arm of the Republican Party just as the Brown Shirts were the military arm of the Nazi Party. To think otherwise is both naive and ignorant of the nature of history repeating itself.
Naomi Wolf :)
Can you say more about the sort of “rise up” activities required to save the Republic?
(of course, NSA minders, we’re talking non-violent risings here…)
One naomi… my bad
BobbyG @ 65
Badwater @ 68
Putting these ideas together, it appears what we need to look for is the funding mechanism – where do the states get the money for BW? It has to be some source of Federal largesse.
SanderO @ 135
LOL!
LS @ 117
Again thank you, this is very important. The more we put the pieces together the quicker we can act. Every would-be despot rounds up citizens or noncitizens in mass arrests and again let’s remember the `blurring of the line’ concept — first the brown people then the white people; first the marginalized then the mainstream.
A propos the comment that no one helped the woman who died in Phoenix: you should see the quotes I offer from Berlin in 1931 — good people watching others get dragged away by SA thugs and not intervening. I don’t condemn German citizens now in the same way I used to before I read these histories and saw this crackdown in my own beloved nation: when you start to fear the State no one feel free to move forward.
Please do not give up on Congress or democratic practice the way you may be tempted to. We at the AFC have five million members now — what if we go to 50 million? Congress is scared to move because they think they will be unseated; tell them they will be unseated unless they take up a new slogan from millions of Americans:
IMPEACH. PROSECUTE. SAVE AMERICA.
Should, but wont. Blackwater already has their multi-million-dollar “drug war” contract. Congress wont do Jack Shit about that. Hell, their “investigation” of Blackwater itself will come to nothing. I mean, honestly folks, name a single “investigation” by the Dems that has come to ANY resolution. Name a single “investigation” that has lead to a single prosecution, law change (rather than a law expanding powers being “investigated”). Name a single “investigation’ that is actually going anywhere (or even is intended to go anywhere). You cannot because none exist.
ALL the so-called Democratic “investigations” are merely intended as clock-running exercises to garner votes by making them seem to be doing something useful. The problem is that they are NOT doing anything useful. All they do is get praise from the base, money, and promise of votes, as intended. In the final measure, however, nothing is resolved, corrected, fixed, reversed, punished, etc. In short, literally NOTHING is changed.
Me, I am simply bidding my time. Buying ammo in case we really do fall down the Mussolini hole, food supplies, etc. Nutty? Yeah, I’d have agreed back in the 1990s but not today. If you aren’t thinking along these lines today then you really have no connection to reality.
I am right behind you.
Dee @ 15
Useless and doomed. Do you really think that either the Senate will pass a similar law and/or that Bush would not veto such a law? If you believe that the House passing this bill will actually end up making it into law, then you are high on crack (and should be expecting the Blackwater “War on Drugs” warriors to be smashing down your door any moment).
Bluetoe @ 133
Completely right. Readers of The End of America know that the National Socialist analogies are not rhetorical — there are dozens of them, down to small details of soundbites and imagery. And here is why we need to reach out to Republicans who are NOT part of this cabal: a) we need the revolution to save America to be bipartisan, plenty of good people on the conservative side are scared to death too and b: they need to know what happens in a police state to even people aligned with the regime: Rohm and his allies were murdered brutally by Hitler in one sweep during the Night of the Long Knives. Often a dictator turns his worst violence on members of his inner circle — see Stalin, the Chinese Politburo. We need good Republicans and even Republican Congresspeople to understand that impeachment and prosecution of these criminals keeps THEM safe as well.
When you intervene you get arrested. it happens at every demo. Look at the round ups at the RNC demos in NYC.
hackworth @ 80
There is some kind of border agreement that I obviously don’t know enough about – could be that we have agreed to do this in exchange for the US letting our trucks etc in without intrusive searches and other delays. But I am just guessing.
Sir, you’re traveling to Italy for the third time in two years?-
Correct.-
What’s this?
A journal.-
You writing a book?-
Yes.-
How are you paying for your frequent trips?-
Ah…, none of your fucking business you DHS fuck! This is ah…unAmerican!-
This is unAmerican?-
Yeah! This is fucking unAmerican!-
Wait here, let me get my supervisor.-
So, this is unAmerican, eh?
Yeah, this is so fucking unAmerican!-
Oh, yeah?-
Yeah!
Praedor Atrebates @ 139
Just asking – How many soldier types do you think it would take to subdue the entire nation of 300,000,000?
I think there is real fear in Congress that if they push the cabal too tightly into a corner, something like a false flag will happen, and all will be lost. They are shedding light on things via oversight, but I believe they are reluctant to take serious action for the reason I just cited. They want the clock to run out “quietly”, however, the problem is…will the cabal really leave?
Term limits
incumbancy is part of the problem
Bustednuckles @ 140
Will I recognize you at the barricades by your busted knuckles?
Kos has this up. It may explain some things that have been coming out of HRC’s camp. I wonder if she’s getting accurate information from that corner, or if it’s been been out of shape beforehand. (FWIW, I’d fire the guy.)
Yes, and my broken nose too.
LS is right.. they will pull yet another false flag op which cowers the people into line.
They saw it done masterfully on 9.11.
You don’t mess with people who have that much power do you?
SanderO @ 148
Elections: voting against the incumbent is the best term limit!
Naomi,
In Hawaii, the sun just came up, and I haven’t even had breakfast yet, but I want to thank you for your work on this subject, and welcome!
Bob in HI
SanderO @ 148
Disagree. We’ve already got term limits, it’s called VOTING. Term limits is just another way of saying “I can’t be arsed to vote.” Hasn’t worked out real well in CA, btw.
Naomi Wolf, haven’t yet read your book but it’s on order. And someone had the wonderful idea of bugging the local libraries to buy and stock the books; I plan to do that as well.
kirk murphy @ 134
Ok. Other successful democracy movements:
Called for mass nationwide strikes that brought the country to a halt.
Had citizens by the millions confront representatives to impeach (or the equivalent) and prosecute. It is not enough to remove people planning a coup, they must be kept behind bars.
Had citizens contact members of the judiciary to alert them to the danger — very important.
Had citizens acting as reporters to distribute samizdat — but bloggers must shift from focussing on opinion to focussing on education and mobilization
Educated populations — our message is that the worst terror threat isn’t as scary as life in America without the rule of law to protect us
IT IS VERY DANGEROUS IN A CLOSING SOCIETY FOR PEOPLE TO DRAW INWARD. there is a short window for action that can be successful but it has to be in the next six months and it has to be MASS — I mean in the millions
so it has to be across the political spectrum.
I’ve never understood what authorization allows the Junta to use a mercenary outfit to attack people abroad, let alone, here in America. Can you explain what is the enabling law that allows this to happen? Does Congress have to approve each decision affecting the use and deployment of mercenaries in a war for which they continue to approve funding? If not, why not? Thanks.
newtonusr @ 146
Very few. Because people mostly won’t fight. Germans didn’t. Americans won’t. Because you get boiled by inches, and all along you’re scared and you’re waiting for the big red line to be crossed, but it never is. Until all the lines have been crossed and you did nothing.
People ask me sometimes why I write on US politics when I’m Canadian. Because I’m really scared of what will happen if the US goes really wrong. And I think it’s very likely. The best way I can serve Canada, can save Canada, is to, in even the smallest, tiniest way, help the US.
LS @ 147
The cabal will leave, but none of the infrastructure will be dismantled, particularly the “legal” infrastructure. All three major Democratic candidates have also essentially said we’ll stay in Iraq until the end of their terms. There will be next, worse iteration after the Democrats.
SanderO @ 43
Women doing the hard work……..as it ever was.
voting is NOT term limits.
You want to influence the funding of elections and get those who are in office doing their jobs not soliciting campaign funds.
If there is no possibility for a second or third term the entire funding of elections and lobbying changes.
We need TERM LIMITS by law. One term back to a real job no exceptions all office. Supremes get 6 years Bye bye.
Why not?
SanderO @ 143
They’ll certainly need Blackwater to intervene at the upcoming GOP convention in Minneapolis. With so many Republican politicians in town simultaneously, all the local and state cops will have to be deployed at the public restrooms in and around the Twin Cities…
Praedor, Bustedknuckles -
You are scaring people (especially those who are paid to listen in). At the barricades!
(Or, at the wall) Those with ‘practical’ knowledge must lead the way. This is still an intellectual exercise for many people, but Naomi’s words might make it more ‘real’.
Front page headline in today’s LA Times:
At what point do we as a nation admit openly that the behavior of our troops reflects on the moral character of their commander-in-chief and ultimately on those who chose him.
newtonusr @ 146
BUTTLOADS. That is one thing to keep in mind: Blackwater and the rest of the private contractors PLUS the 160,000 US military troops, are all combined unable to subdue one city in Iraq. I do take some comfort in the fact that there’s no way they can subdue a single state here. However, with the little “continuity of government” crap Bush signed a couple years ago (remember?) whereby he gets to federalize any and all Guard units on his sayso, all he has to do is declare, “National Emergency! Oh, and 9/11 changed everything!” and he “owns” all National Guard troops AND can use normal US military as well. That, combined with US Marshalls, FBI thugs from a THOROUGHLY politicized DOJ, militarized state and city police, and Blackwater acting, literally, as Brownshirts (the Brownshirts were not a huge army, mind, they were actually a rather small group) then you can cause a great deal of mischief over a wide swathe.
It may not (yet) be as bad as some (even I) may imply but with all the goons combined (and willing…how many cops are more than eager to taser people? LOTS) there is room for real trouble. Physically being able to control an entire country of the size of the USA is not the same as being able to control it via psychological means with a small, but well-targeted use of physical force. The latter is much easier.
LS @ 147
There is no chance in hell the cabal will really leave. see my last chapter. It is crazy unreason to assume they will violate every precept of Democracy but then bow to a lost election. In a fascist shift, there are still lecetions — they just are corrupted and a changing of the guard just puts a new figurehead in place. Clearly Giuliani has been designated the successor for the same strategic undertaking. It was the previous Parliament that gutted the Constitution that let the National Socialists open the gates of hell. So what we are seeing now could be nothing compared to an unfettered Giuliani admin with the same hands at the helm. He has said for instance that he wants to `double Guantanamo’. That is why impeachment and prosecution has to happen before the election. The blueprint from history calls for a major hyped threat in the next 18 months; escalating violence against demonstrators and even political leaders; the crackdown on communications — Naral and Truthout.org have had both text messages and emails censored; and other assaults that will be difficult to counter if we don’t act now.
Exactly my point earlier.
This HAS BEEN going on for years already.
Bush has egregiously given himself complete control over THE WHOLE GOVERNMENT in such emergencies as natural disasters or whatever the fuck HE decides is good enough reason.
COMPLETE CONTROL.
The coup is over.
SanderO @ 161
It sounds great. California did it. Doesn’t work.
The real issue is campaign finance and lobbying reform.
Naomi @ 156:
THE must-do list. We were talking about that earlier. Calling Laura Doty. Calling selise.
dakine01 @ 107
Actually I was going to buy one in Alaska but that deal fell through.
Flying overseas next week and taking The End of America with me. Now THAT should be fun. See you in Gitmo!
There will be another terra attack in about 6 months.
That will change everything. Watch.
How much of the sweeping up of Hispanics is economically motivated? Behind the claims of just enforcing the law, is there a belief that Hispanics really are distorting the economy with their cheap labor? The Germans — orderly, thrify people — were perhaps less inclined to stand up for the Jews when they were told that the Jews were the ones really responsible for the collapse of their economy. I would not call us either orderly or thrifty, but still I think we could understand — fall for — the (false) argument that Hispanics are taking all the jobs that belong to ‘us’.
Question is: Do the people ordering and making the sweeps and generally persecuting immigrants believe such an argument?
Everyone, it has been an honor to be part of this discussion and this community. I plan to remain part of it. I have to go pick up my kids now but I do feel heartened; now is the time to act, to speak up, to confront; it does not get safer unless we do so. Please all of you take on what the founders saw as the patriots’ task — not to wait for others to act and lead but to do so ourselves. I do see movement when millions of Americans drive awareness and action at once — even now — and I know from history that no desport on earth can stand up against millions mobilized in defense of freedom. Let’s roll.
brendan @ 159
Personally, I think the Democrats are fully aware of what is happening, perhaps more than we are. I don’t think they are anything like the cabal in power right now. This administration is full of the ex-Iran/Contra brigade. When they go, I believe things will turn for the better. The 3 Dems did not say they wanted to keep troops in Iraq until the end of their terms, they said they could not guarantee what will be happening by then, and they don’t know what they will find in the WH if/when they get there. They are going to encounter the debris from this debacle, and are going to have a hell of a time cleaning it up.
peanutbutter @ 168
Exactly.
Thanks Naomi
Another treasure
California didn’t do it. Stop lying.
Yes, Thank you Naomi.
Naomi Wolf @ 173
Brava to you!! We’re on a roll.
Thanks, Naomi Wolf -
I’m looking forward to picking up your book this afternoon.
Thanks for you work and for being here.
(and OMG I’m still red – once again, I apologize)
Praedor and Bustedknuckles differ in how many thugs it would take to subdue America; at the moment my vote is with Busted. Americans, today, are easily bullied, stomach being lied to, and do not like confrontation. They are very, very easily made afraid. Until they are willing to just say ‘NO!’ tenuous is the likely description of tomorrow. Nonetheless it is ‘the people’ with whom we share our fate.
David W. Bartoo @ 163
Be not afraid folks. I am making some use of hyperbole, but only just a little (I have been slowly stocking up on ammo…a little for shooting at the range for pleasure, but also just in case). I keep a wary eye on all the goings on with this government and am angry that I have been pushed to join what I would otherwise call the “Black Helicopter Crowd” against my wishes.
Thank you, Naomi;
A dose of ‘truthin’ is needed periodically.
As you have children, you know how important modelling good behavior really is.
Ms. Wolf:
I just ordered your book.
Everyone else:
You order it, too, so I’m not the only one on their list.
nomolos @ 170
Given the state of our infrastructure (Minneapolis anyone?) it will take quite a lot to convince me to buy ANY bridge anywhere in this country.
brendan @ 184
LOL
Praedor Atrebates @ 182
I really appreciate your ‘aim’ with words. Many bull’s eyes and the whiff of courage, probably have a ‘backbone’ as well.
SanderO @ 177
Sander,
California instituted term limits at the state level a few years ago.
US Rep and Senate positions are not covered as those offices are considered federal offices and are covered by the US Constitution. Just as recalls are not available for those offices.
Blackwater’s getting nanny cams courtesy of the Secretary of Mistake
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200…..AcS5wE1vAI
nanny cams! If people weren’t dying, this would be prime SNL material.
Yes, yes, yes.
The increasing contempt for “civilians” among members of domestic police and security personnel is obvious. The “war on terrorism” is empowering the authoritarian impulses of some very twisted people, and Blackwater in Iraq is only the visible tip of the iceberg. Yes, they’ll oppress, brutalize and murder US citizens when called on to do so. But there’s an even broader story about current domestic abuses and public acceptance of the transformation of authority into authoritarianism.
Of course there have always been bad cops. But the general tone of the interface between law enforcement and the public is shifting subtly from “protect and serve” to “command and control.” Ordinary people are ordered to “get out of line, stand over there, come with me, move your vehicle,” with no explanation or attempt at politeness. And woe to the person who resists, or even asks a question. “Hands behind your back and spread’em.” Various lines at airports resemble cattle being loaded onto boxcars to the slaughterhouse. People being kept on planes on the runway for hours is another way the general public is being dehumanized and desensitized.
The reflexive complicity of Democrats in enabling authoritarianism though acts of commission and omission that support the Imperial Presidency is astounding and unforgivable. Military Commissions Act, FISA, failure to restore habeas; and the failure to follow up on subpoenas, demands for info, and contempt of Congress citations all give the impression that there’s really only one branch of government that matters. The rule of law doesn’t.
The testosterone-laced rhetoric of the Republican presidential candidates demonstrates a frightening level of public acceptance of the strongman warrior-king protector of the submissive, helpless masses.
Keep talking. Thanks.
Man this is messed up, this is one of those – I never would have thought I could be having a conversation like this in America – moments.
The way I see it, our Armed Services are patriots and would not fire on their own people, so, hold them hostage overseas and return Blackwater to the USA to control the “rabble” which will eventually rise.
We’re seeing this happen now, a kid tasered for speaking out, a woman dying in TSA custody because she was “upset”…
First, they came for the Jews…
Adams @ 190
Bush is a war criminal, a monster, a Hiterlesque villian. But, he’s a fool. Those who enable him are worse. In that category we can include Republicans and more especially the mainstream media. But far, far worse are those who have responsibility to disable him, namely the leaders of the opposition party, whom the voters have entrusted to stop this criminality. They have not only failed to discharge their responsibility, but have actively assisted in enabling his criminality and protecting him for consequences. Those people (Pelosi, Emanuel, Ried, Hoyer, etc.) have my greatest contempt. They are far, far more evil than Bush!
SanderO @ 177
Wrong. We did. Some of us are not happy with it.
hmmmm….they’ve been coming for black and brown folks in america for quite awhile….. check prison stats
Adams @ 190
Yep. What you said.
The fact that Hillary is “advised” by an anti-union goon and (until VERY recently) representative for Blackwater tells you all you need to know about HER as a President. Nothing will change. As for Guiliani…though Naomi is here no more, I write off Guiliani. He’s toast. That said, I think the people that pull the puppet strings are actually lining up behind Hillary. I mean, c’mon! Some of the neocon mouthpieces from the so-called “other side” are acting all warm for Hillary. Why? Because she is on board with more of the same.
There will be very little change if Hillary is Prez (not by MY vote she wont be). Sure, the false face put on the country and its government will appear nicer but Rendition will continue (Bill Clinton STARTED rendition!), torture will continue (she and Bill have voiced the neocon-acceptable amount of belief in the bogus “ticking timebomb” theory of torture…Bill Clinton has recently voiced his “admiration” for Jack Bauer, for shit’s sake!). There is more crap to come – and there will be no reversals, just better handling of the powers that Bush has secured for Hillary.
The reason I think the cabal will cede power is that they have a kind of faith in the United States, it’s Constitution and our long tradition of government under that Constitution: they have the faith that they can get what they want by perverting, suspending, misreading and ignoring the nation’s laws and mores while keeping the facade intact. Mussolini and Hitler, on the other hand, were openly contemptuous of “democracy” in principle.
That said, if you’d have asked me a few months ago, I would have said fears of fascism were self-dramatization, and that we were just a rapacious, moderately oppressive old empire like the British or any other. That’s changed — what Wolf says just feels right, in the pit of my stomach, especially when I think of flying, or when the thought of ordering a book gives me pause.
Oh hell, I missed Naomi. I would have loved the opportunity to “talk” with her.
But in my defense, I used my lunch break to go drop off my written proposal to organize an active peace and justice group at my church.
So I was doing the good work, even though I missed a great conversation.
I still think we should somehow combine Naomi Wolf and Naomi Klein into one giant, fascist-smashing Mecha Naomi.
Keep up the push-back, sister. And if you’re ever in Seattle and need a tour guide…
just reading up on the Nalini Ghuman story.. why isn’t this getting wider coverage? Google sites less than 100 real sources for it. We need to publicize it. This is really making me think that there’s some type of really spooky, scary domestic agenda we don’t even suspect, going on.
Naomi Wolf @ 173
Naomi thanks so much for being here today. It was wonderful to have you.
SanderO @ 161
The Justices of the Supreme Court are not elected, they’re appointed. I see no reason to change that part of the Constitution.
As a Californian, I have to say – term limits suck. There is no more institutional memory, except at the staff level and even then, it’s not like it was, people working for 30 years as leg. support. Just when assemblymembers or senators get their heads wrapped around the complexity of governing the, what, 8th largest economy in the world, boom, out they go.
IT truly sucks. I don’t know what the answer is – maybe longer limits? Or, hey, how about an extreme makeover, country edition? We can no longer afford to consolidate power in the hands of a few people, as we have (ahem) noticed lately. Let’s divide the country into four parts, have regional leaders who lead in conjunction with a president. Do you feel a sense of solidarity with all Americans? I think we would if we were tied to a smaller geographic region.
Though I missed this conversation, I would like to add one thing on our fascist shift.
I have a very good friend in Chicago, who’s father was a Dachau survivor. He’s still alive, and has commented numerous times of how he’s seen this all before.
That’s from a former German citizen who was sent to a concentration camp for the crime of being in art school. Not from some wide-eyed, naive liberal just bandying about the “F” word without any first-hand knowledge.
This is REAL folks.
If America new the Truth about itself, blood would run in the streets.
That’s what all of this is for. To keep the Genie in the bottle.
The power elite in america will run this country in the ground in order to maintain control.
Naomi Wolf @ 138
Okay, where do I get that bumber sticker–
IMPEACH. PROSECUTE. SAVE AMERICA
(and what’s the AFC)?
adams
unforgivable? better be careful, because questioning the Axiom of unquestioning support for the Least Worst is what is unforgivable around here.
so what if we couldn’t have reached this terrible fascist twilight without the complicity of the Democratic Party- they must be supported even if they nominate and run a neo-con for the presidency.
barring another false-flag, watch in amazement in 08 as left blogistan turns to barking stray sheeple back into the (D) fold.
There fascist thugs are already here. The cops are out of control, we have a big police brutality cover up here in Chicago.
Naomi, I don’t know if you saw the item in the Politico, but, alarmingly enough, the pr corporation that Hilary Clinton is using – Mark Penn’s Burson Marsteller – advised Blackwater before the hearings. That’s right – a firm that is being used by the leading Democratic candidate has ties to Blackwater. Unbelievable.
“A Burson Marsteller spokesman, Paul Cordasco, e-mails with more detail: “Through a personal relationship, BKSH, a subsidiary of Burson-Marsteller, helped Blackwater prepare for their recent hearing before Congress. With the hearing over, BKSH’s temporary engagement has ended.”
This beast has many tentacles.
Kathleen @ 31
Greenwald’s article also features Jonah Goldberg’s new book on “Liberal Fascism”. Now, it seems we have multiple books coming out, complaining about fascisms of the Left and the Right. What will the public response be? Will they conclude that both are equal in merit? Will there be joint reviews of books from both sides? Will it elevate discussion of what fascism actually consists of, or will it merely lead to a “pox on both sides” attitude?
Until recently, it is my impression that fascism has been over-identified with Hitler’s Germany and Mussolini’s Italy, so that what fascism is has become confused with historical singularities of those two countries.
Could it be that the benefit of the O’Reilly et al. abuse of the term will be a de-identification of fascism with Hitler and Mussolini, and enhanced understanding of fascism? If so, that might be a good thing.
Naomi, what do you think about that?
Bob in HI
Blub @ 200
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09…..ByLlXSOwvQ
related; ACLU suing over admin’s practice of barring ideologically unfriendly scholars:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/…..-uspo.html
Wigwam (193) & Praedor Atrebates (196),
Agreed. Here’s part of a comment I wrote to Belgravia Dispatch this am:
We have endured corrupt, incompetent leadership. The grown-up Republicans seem unable to moderate, or even offer a balanced perspective. But have we ever had such a pathetically impotent, calculating opposition party in the face of such outrages and public outcry? Hillary’s equivocation on Iraq, her vote on Kyl-Lieberman, and her pandering to AIPAC (e.g. on Jerulalem) are not encouraging.
Sporkovat (207),
Agreed. But I’ll do it, too. Ralph may be right, but he’s also spoiler. We only get to pick among the choices available.
Maybe summer in Canada, winter in Mexico. But then there’s the flyover. They’ll get you somehow.
Hey, cheer up everyone. The market’s up. Whee!
Roger (209),
I believe Burson Marsteller was the PR firm for the Pinochet regime right after the Allende coup. Touting the economic miracles of the Chicago boys and ignoring the disappeared, murdered, and tortured.
Quite a corporate culture. Tentacles indeed.
TSA screeners don’t even have guns. Somehow, trying to meld one of the few standing government agencies into a private mercenary force seems a bit… of a stretch. Seriously, TSA screeners make little more than what people do at Target. They are hardly foot soldiers for Blackwater. Try to stay a little more on topic, and you will make a more convincing case. Not that you don’t have a point about Blackwater…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 29
No.
hey! Did anyone mention that Ms Wolf will be on CSPAN ‘Afterwords’ this weekend?
Gotta check their schedule.
ReneND @ 26
I don’t think this forum is “just learning”; I do think the general public is clueless, however – specifically about Blackwater.
The reason I use my real name is that I know what I will do before they come for me…
My tinfoil has been going off since 1981 so this is my nightmare come true.
I need to read Catch 22 by Heller to cheer myself up. Sobering thoughts, Naomi.
Biodun @ 127
Second that – left him blubbering nonsense, as usual.
Hello to All and Thank You to Naomi Wolf for being here today. I read here more than an hour each day, but I don’t post very often.
I somehow knew, from the time that Bush became President, that the things Ms. Wolf is writing about was where it was all going. This has been the plan for a very long time. We have seen in Burma that peaceful protest does not work against criminals. I numb out a lot because the realities facing us are so, so horrific. I’ve lost some friends who don’t want to hear me go on about this stuff,and there probably aren’t many people, relatively speaking, who want to have a clue.
Will the power of dissent, of calling attention to this evil be enough? Are there enough people who care enough and have courage enough to stand up? I honestly don’t know if I have the courage, I’m ashamed to say. Ms. Wolf’s very important post needs to be spotlighted to news outlets around the world, but especially here. And to every member of our Congress. Over and over again.
I don’t have time now to read the whole thread–Erik Prince’s SISTER is the big
repub–she’s married to Dick DeVos–he ran and lost the Michigan governor’s race last time around. Google Erik Prince, dig around and see how he got his money
and what he does with it. Interesting reading. Big Fundie.
Naomi Klein is in my pantheon.
Oops! I meant Naomi Wolf. But Klein is there as well.
Naomi: are suggesting that these are “staged” incidents or just random stupdities carried out by underpaid and trained security personnel? Police brutality used to be rampant – and I would guess is still much too common in poorer neighborhoods – but these events seem to pale when compared to what the citizens of most cities faced in the earlier decades of the last century. There are also many precedents for Blackwater, the Pinkertons the most obvious example and the mob violence attending the lynching and murder of African Americans.
None of that makes any of the current news easier to accept. Blackwater, the growth of the prison industry and the proliferation of new surveillance technology are all worrisome trends. Mix all that with an isolated, fear-driven and credulous populace ignorant of the world and its own history and you can have a real mess on your hands.
I wish to point out something I found utterly despicable about Prince’s testimony:
He says the errors are the fault of “subcontractors” over whom, he alleges, he has little control other than to fire them when they are caught doing something wrong.
Subcontractors.
Having heard this all my professaional life from General Contractors, I think this one time this irresponsible poor-mouthing be taken to task.
EPU’d but I still must register an objection to Naomi’s casual racism:
(my emphasis)
That Phoenix atrocity is independent of skin color, as I’m sure Naomi will agree.
Apart from that, I share her assessment in this post.
Ellen
omelas @ 214
Lots of the TSA screeners at Reagan National and Dulles here in DC area are welfare to work mothers. They make $13.75/hr part time.
There’s probably nobody reading this, except for the guys from one, or more of the acronymical gov. agencies, (waving politely ~~~ ) but this story is related
More here
Maybe your wingnut relatives reply to this would be, “good, I’ve got nothin ta hide.” And I’m sure that’s what Senator Widestance thought before he got caught doing his toetapping showtunes in the Minneapolis restroom before he got caught
But they should be reminded that everything about them is now entered into a database, including what they read, and what they have in their possession
Just some food for thought
I’m pleased that you are posting here, Naomi. Your insights are very important right now.
One thought I have, watching the unfolding atrocities in Burma, is how easy it would be for a repressive goverment here to “pull the plug” on internet activism, should the need arise.
The internet has been a great tool for alternative information and political organizing, but it is exceedingly vulnerable.
We had better not forget how to print pamphlets, do phone trees, and hold actual physical meetings (not to mention organize clandestinely…).
john in sacrameto @ 227
Thank you for these links, have been looking for more info since I first heard of this. Far more extensive and ominous than first was told…
LS @ 77
With regard to Blackwater and all mercs, they’ll bend over backwards to make the public think that there’s something legitimate and respectible about their “work”. Check out the following:
http://ipoaonline.org/php/
brendan @ 159
That has yet to be seen of course.
b.s.
They’ve said we don’t know exactly what we’ll face when we go in and we want to keep options open.
Hillary seems set on Iran.
Barack seems set on nuking northern Pakistan.
Edwards seems most hesitant to specify what he might do.
None have said they’d keep troops in to the end of their terms. At least not that I’ve heard.
This is something we really do have to be concerned with. How to nip it in the roots to avoid a continuation of the VRWC foreign policy after 4 or 8 years.
Cite?
Worrisome, as is Hillary’s recent bout of cackling.
If they intend to control our travel in and out of the country they could easily prevent their political opponents from escaping or going abroad to talk to friends about what’s happening here.
It might be part of a plan to envelop America in a fog to keep us isolated from the rest of the world — just as most dictatorial countries try to do when there’s a revolution/disturbance/peace-march.
Kitt @ 85
What really scared me was not seeing people just walking by, but seeing people running away. At one point, when (I assume)the police were summoned over the PA system, any civilian who was anywhere near that woman started frantically running away so they would not be anywhere near her when the police got there. Seeing their instant capitulation is very frightening.
omelas @ 214
Disobey their orders and the people with guns will be right there.
Guards told people to “move along” “there’s nothing to see” at the Phoenix Airport, according to witnesses who called CNN. In the video you can see a guard waving people away with his hand.
It is too bad. That poor woman was suffering from post-partum psychosis (aggravated by alcohol abuse). Rich or poor there is not much medicine can do in these situations.
What is truly appalling is the army of people posting on message boards that she deserved to die for raising her voice and “being out of control.”
The performance of the Phoenix police was shocking. Apparently, people routinely die in handcuffs under their tender mercies. There have been 5 such fatalities this year. (One such just yesterday). Is this normal — I mean, how big a city is Phoenix, and how many die like that in larger cities like NY or San Francisco, I wonder?)