Sometimes, you just need a little Spinal Tap…
BooMan hits the same notes of frustration that I’m feeling this morning:
What did the administration buy with the resignations of Karl Rove and Alberto Gonzales? Apparently, they bought a get out of jail free card. Whereas, previously, Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy had insisted he would not hold hearings for attorney general nominee Michael B. Mukasey until he got all his subpoenaed documents, now he appears ready to go forward….
Based on what I learned in Jack L. Goldsmith’s The Terror Presidency: Law and Judgment Inside the Bush Administration, a full disclosure of the Office of Legal Counsel’s historical legal reasoning on warrantless domestic surveillance and torture would probably lead directly to a slam-dunk case for impeachment…especially of Dick Cheney. It appears that the administration’s decision to jettison Rove and Gonzales has given them some wiggle room.
TheMuck has the full Leahy letter. As if reading about the bait and switch torture memoranda — and lord only knows what else is hidden under the creepy Cheney/Addington infested rocks — weren’t nauseating enough this morning.
Matt at OpenLeft has some better news from Russ Feingold’s office. And KagroX finds a potential path to the light amidst the Beltway cave-ins — I like to call them facts:
Republicans want to force the Senate to approve all four pending FEC nominations at once, in a single vote. The argument is that previous FEC nominations have been considered that way, so this one should be, too. Such nominations are typically paired up, one Democratic nominee, one Republican. And significant opposition is rare, so the Senate has in the past saved itself some time and considered the nominations together. But Von Spakovsky has significant opposition, so some Senators want — gasp! — separate votes on each nominee.
Adam B. notes (in e-mail) that McConnell’s claim of strong precedent for only having paired votes is
iron cladb.s. Way, way back, lost in the mists of time, as far back as May 2000, the Senate did indeed vote separately on FEC commissioners.
And who was in charge of these separate FEC commissioner Senate votes in the year 2000? Why, that would be the Republicans. Mitch McConnell, once again blowing smoke and falsehoods in the name of obstruction. More from KagroX via e-mail:
There’s no rule [requiring block votes on FEC nominees]. McConnell’s claim grows out of the fact that the nominations are paired and that there’s rarely any significant opposition to anyone being named, so by unanimous consent they dispense with the business more quickly by voting on all nominations together. But as DiFi noted in committee, this is only the case when there’s no significant opposition to any nominee, and we’ve been lucky enough that that’s just never been the case, or at least so rarely so that it became routine to vote on all the nominations at once.
What it would take, presumably, is a unanimous consent agreement that all nominations be voted on at once. Otherwise, normal rules of procedure should enable Senators to require separate votes. So an intention to object to such an agreement should at least throw a temporary wrench in the works.
Will the Democratic leadership have the will of steel to call McConnell’s craptastic bluffitude? Just say no to a unanimous consent agreement on Von Spakovsky. No, no…NO. Stay tuned…and call your Senators today and tell them to say “no” to Von Spakovsky.
You can find direct dial numbers for individual Senators here. More on the odious Mr. Von Spakovsky here, here and here. And Katymine found some toll free numbers to the switchboard:
1 (800) 828 – 0498
1 (800) 459 – 1887
1 (800) 614 – 2803
1 (866) 340 – 9281
1 (866) 338 – 1015
1 (877) 851 – 6437
Related posts:
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- Sotomayor: One Confirmation Down; Many More to Go
- OLC: Grand Obstruction Party Still Obstructing Dawn Johnsen’s Nomination
- Von Spakovsky Accuses Obama Civil Rights Team of “Nakedly Political” Acts; NYT Fails to Note HvS’s Own Partisan Work
- Breaking: Senate Judiciary Approves Sotomayor Nomination – 13 to 6





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Craptastic Bluffitude…
That is just brilliant Christy! :)
Single digits, not bad for dial-up.
Helpless Dancer @ 6
Not bad at all, Dancer :)
kdh22 at 5 — Thanks — it seemed like apt phrasing for the particular situation. *g*
“My job is a decision-making job. And as a result, I make a lot of decisions,” the president said.
beerfart liberal @ 9
…as Babs pulled him from the sandbox at the park. The other childrens heaved a sigh of relief as the boy king was led away.
The fear here is that there will never be any accountability for Rove, Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Rice and the rest. And just what kind of message does that send to the next generation? To say I am frustrated, somehow doesn’t get it. The Democratic “leadership” is guilty of gross dereliction of duty. As in no impeachment inquiry, etc.
kdh22 @ 10
as the mother of the baby that the boy king kicked in the stomach attempted to dry its tears, and the mother of the toddler whose snack was stolen by the boy king made a futile search of her empty wallet for enough money to buy another snack…
Is there any question our “Dem” “leaders” are in on the game anymore? Many have been around DeeCee a looooong time, and they know that the snakes will slither off only to return when the time is right. There are so many of the same names from Nixon to Iran/Contra to now, and NOTHING EVER HAPPENS TO THEM! These people need to be prosecuted to the point that they can never work in government again! They are also recruiting the next generation of Constitution-haters and death-lovers.
And the Dems are letting them off once again when they could be doing something about it. I am now convinced they are part of the whole damn sham. We got some serious house cleaning to do…
God love ya Christy, I hope they didn’t break the mold after they made you.
Via Josh
Obama is trying to pull the plug on the voice-vote for FEC nominees, one in particular, Van Spakovsky. Hope abounds…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzAFcv6UPc0
“Can’t get no satisfaction”
Senator Kennedy’s reaction to Bush’s veto of the SCHIP “this veto is the most inexplicable veto in the history of the country. It is incomprehensible, it’s intolerable, it’s inexcusable”
Democracy Now always great.
http://www.democracynow.org/ar…..04/1355205
Bush: `I Make A Lot Of Decisions’
Bush Says He Has A Decision-Making Job So `I Make A Lot Of Decisions’
I couldn’t make tis stuff up if I tried. It was kinda funny how Orrin Hatch blamed the SCHIP veto on Bush getting “bad advice.” But hey, Orrin, he’s the decider.
Blackwater flies injured Polish diplomat to hospital. Because he’s a fucking white guy. They didn’t do anything for the brown people at the scene? The Bush/Blackwater slaughter machine rolls on. Barbara Bush must be very proud of her little fuckwad in chief!
OT – Breaking on MSNBC.com
House passes bill making Iraq contractors subject to U.S. prosecution
beerfart liberal @ 9
More Bu’ushloqution:
Ugh.
Both the House and Senate have stalled in pursuing contempt citations or, as in the Senate case, drawing a line and not allowing confirmation hearings for Mukasey until the White House comes up with the information which sparked the threats of contempt.
Leahy has certainly had his moments but like essentially all the Democrats in the Senate he is not a fighter. We often caricature the toothless Snarlin’ Arlen for his cave-ins, but at the end of the day is Leahy really that different? Leahy has held some good hearings but when it comes to the next step: to confront the White House’s stonewalling, he dithers for months, makes a few ineffectual threats, and then folds.
We have a tendency to lionize Democrats who show even a hint of a backbone and make them our heroes. But these are the same guys who instead of acting like an opposition party rolled over and played dead for the first 6 years of the Bush Administration. Maybe we need to think the Democrats are better than they are but the fact is they aren’t. They’re just better than the Republicans, which isn’t saying much.
And to be fair Leahy is one of the better Democrats in Congress. He does have his convictions. Unfortunately for us and the country, he does not have the courage of them.
Bobby G @ 20:
I’ve been listening to this clown for … what? … 6 years now. And I think he outdid himself yesterday. It wasn’t just one boner, so to speak. That was no sprint yesterday. It was a marathon of illogig and nonsense.
I find this little nugget in the NYT torture article to be interesting. I’m wondering if Rice/Zelikow are trying to throw Cheney under the bus:
“At least a few administration officials argued that no reasonable interpretation of “cruel, inhuman or degrading” would permit the most extreme C.I.A. methods, like waterboarding. Mr. Bradbury was placed in a tough spot, said Mr. Zelikow, the State Department counselor, who was working at the time to rein in interrogation policy.
“If Justice says some practices are in violation of the C.I.D. standard,” Mr. Zelikow said, referring to cruel, inhuman or degrading, “then they are now saying that officials broke current law.”
We’ll gladly hold off impeachment and war crimes today, if you resign for health reasons.
BobbyG @ 20
And then Bush can go back to the really important stuff like clearing brush.
Also I added, for the sake of clarity, my own edit to the quote
Hugh @ 21
Maybe I don’t get it – what would be gained by not holding the hearings, which is, after all, the only thing Leahy has agreed to do? Bush would get to keep his non-confirmed appointee in charge. I’m sure that would be fine with him.
If Leahy has said he wasn’t going to hold the hearings unless the administration produced the subpoenied data, then he has flipped, that’s true. But I don’t see the big downside of Leahy’s pre-hearing discussion with Murkasey and holding the hearings.
John Stewart brings up the Matthews interview and then goes onto apologize to Jeremy Scahill.
http://www.comedycentral.com/s…..ndex.jhtml
Today on Democracy Now, Amy shares that clip and then goes on to challenge Stewart “it takes a man to apologize John it takes a mensch to have Jeremy Scahill back on your show”
“mensch” good person
This is a pretty funny Bush “Hoo”t.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
LS @ 24
Not nearly enough, IMO. We need to stop the offenders in their tracks with some criminal proceedings.
LS @ 24
No such danger exists when even Congressional subpoenas are ignored without consequences.
The only thing the dems want to do is tread water til the election. A democratic super majority may result. The key is getting as many progressive dems elected as possible. With a super majority of Rethug-lite dems, status quo conditions will exist.
yellowsnapdragon @ 29
Personally, I’m in total agreement with your comment. My comment was sort of a snark about Dem’s possible “deals” in getting rid of the unwanted.
Dana Perino on CNN,
“It’s not just secret because we want it to be secret, it’s secret because it’s classified”! Fucking brilliant.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 11
Who says the Democratic Party does not believe in torture. They torture their base everyday. It’s like death by a thousand cuts. They give us hope and then strip it away. They think we have nowhere else to go so, these Beltway buddies ignore us and betray their oversight repsonsbilities. No one wants another GOP Administration, but I have to wonder, how many party faithful will just flame out and stay home in ‘08.
MayDaze @ 26
If Mukasey’s confirmation hearings are held, then there will be a vote and Mukasey will be confirmed. Leahy’s leverage will be gone, no statement about standing up to this Administration’s lawlessness will have been made, the Democrats will again be shown to be weak, and the Administration will continue its success in running out the clock.
JF @ 19
And by a veto-proof margin, too. Can we hope for such action in the Senate?
The House oversight committee on Corruption in Iraqi Government,
OOOh, Daryll Issa just said
Always please your boss, is the saying in Iraq.
Nothing gets by Darryl. Like that’s not the rule Everywhere.
Hugh @ 34
They are going to run out the clock no matter what the “other side” does.
EvilDrPuma @ 35
389-30 vote
Wow. Signs of brainwave activity.
The Terrists have won, I guess.
hackworth @ 30
But, of course, even with the Presidency and a supermajority, many of the Democrats will be Blue Dog DINOs. So even then they will lament their fate, gnash their teeth, and rationalize away why they can’t get much done.
When I see all this happening, I fear we’ve piled too many hopes on the narrow shoulders of Waxman and Leahy. The sheer volume of malfeasance that has taken place is breathtaking- these people (Cheney et al) have been getting up early every morning for 6 1/2 years to subvert democracy as we know it.
The bigger the dem majority- the greater percentage of dems that will be “conservative”. It’s a function of the politics of the nation. There isn’t going to be a supermajority of progressives in congress because there’s no supermajority of progressives in the general population…it’s like havin everyone be above average.
Is it not possible for a Senator to put one of those “secret” holds on the Von Spakovsky nomination and kill the whole bloody thing.
Well done on the house for passing the obvious. Rare these days.
Ish @ 40
Folks do tend to forget that with Nixon, there was a larger Dem majority in both houses AND still some responsible and honest Rs around. The Dem majority was in power throughout Nixon’s crimes and it STILL took over two years from the time of the H2Ogate break-in before Nixon was forced to resign by his own party before he could be impeached and convicted.
And he WOULD have been impeached and convicted, make no mistake about that.
Hugh @ 34
Hugh, I have a lot of respect for you and I’m not trying to pick a fight, but if Leahy simply doesn’t hold the hearings, Bush keeps his appointee and runs out the clock anyway. I understand what you’re saying about the Dems looking weak, but that ship has already sailed.
rwcole @ 41
Hmmm…problem with that last statement is that you should be able to apply that to anything…therefore nothing would be a supermajority…wait…
*headkerplooie*
Actually, I think it might not be bad to get the new AG in. Then ask for the old memos. I think it was a mistake to say we wouldn’t confirm unless we had the papers, so I think this is a good thing. We”ll get more from the new guy, I’m sure, than if we keep to a stupid promise and get stalled.
raven @ 37
That’s only because the “other side” doesn’t have the guts to stop them. The “other side” didn’t do it when they were in the minority. They haven’t done it now that they are in the majority. The one thing the Democrats could do is move to impeach and open real investigation of this Administration. This is and has been the only remedy but the Democrats are so scared of impeachment that you would think they were the ones being impeached.
dakine01 @ 43
Perhaps it wasn’t just a larger majority. Perhaps the leadership then was actually effective and not just for show. Things were not simply moved “off the table”.
BobbyG @ 38
Great news!
Now, what about oversight of Blackwater USA’s activities in the USA?
Specifically, how does a company under investigation for murder and arms smuggling get both a contract for “drug interdiction,” and a contract to move cargo and personnel throughout the area where 90% of the world’s heroin is produced?
Might some folks in that organization of Upright Citizens be tempted to use their jobs as cover to import heroin?
Drug smuggling under the color of authority… not like it hasn’t happened before.
http://www.ratical.org/ratvill…..OfMena.pdf
raven @ 32
The Deciderer decided, dammit!
Badwater @ 48
Well, like I say, there were also some fairly honest and ethical Rs around in those days as well.
And we also didn’t have over six years of far greater crimes to go through and catch up on while trying to stop the ongoing messes. Remember this as well – many of the revelations since January concern the crimes that have been committed SINCE the elections last November. There are only so many hours for even the best investigators to find information and there is so much out there.
MayDaze @ 50
I kept waiting for her to say, “like, what do you think?”
Anyone know much about tooth abcesses for pooches? We think PJ has one. Headed out to the vet shortly, but I’m thinking we have a tooth extraction and antibiotics at a minimum in her future. It’s hugely swollen, right under her eye, just in the last couple of hours. Poor little pooch…
Conyers demanding torture memos:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004380.php
Christy, I hope you have a great vet. I hope PJ is on the mend soon.
It is hard to watch the suffering especially when there is no way to understand it exactly.
I love my vets. They are the best.
MayDaze @ 50
One of the truly mindboggling aspects of this Administration is the almost universal lack of vocabulary or grasp of spoken grammer. I realize the state of teaching the English language in this country is abysmal, but damn, these folks’ grasp of the spoken word is just horrific.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 53
Bad for all animals, including us, Christy. That’s one doggy that is not going to want to chew for a while.
OT: Did everyone catch this story making the rounds today? I read it in the Tampa Tribune paper edition at lunch. Revising history…..who lost those 190,000 weapons?
Here is one online version:
IRAQ had ordered $US100 million ($112 million) worth of light military equipment from China for its police force, contending that the United States was unable to provide the material and was too slow to deliver arms shipments, the Iraqi President, Jalal Talabani, said.
The deal with China, not previously made public, has alarmed military analysts, who note that Iraq’s security forces are already unable to account for more than 190,000 weapons supplied by the US. Many of these are believed to be in the hands of Shiite and Sunni militias, insurgents and other forces seeking to destabilise Iraq and target US troops.
http://afp.google.com/article/…..dsSfKyMsOg
Iraq PM says ‘unfit’ Blackwater must go
1 day ago
“BAGHDAD (AFP) — Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said on Wednesday that Blackwater should leave the country because of the mountain of evidence against the under-fire US security firm.
His comments came amid growing anger among Iraqis that “above-the-law” security contractors are continuing to operate in Iraq while Blackwater is being probed over a deadly shooting 17 days ago.
“I believe the abundance of evidence against it makes it unfit to stay in Iraq,” Maliki told a televised press conference in Baghdad.”
————————————————
Our Reps have endlessly repeated that the Iraqi government needs “to step up to the plate, take responsibility for their country”. So will they get the hell out of the way and support what the Iraqi government is demanding or will they continue to undermine the Iraqi government and then turn around and continue to play the “blame the Iraqi’s” game for all of their fuckups?”
Profiles in Courage R Not Us. Here’s a sober balanced article about Petraeus’s sins in this regard:
http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2…..icle2.html
Only a handful of characters even have the courage to speak out. What a sad state of affairs. I wonder what the Roman blogs were like during the decline of the empire. Or the Brits blogs between WWI & WWII.
Toby Wollin @ 56
Yes, all the memorable quotes of this Admin will be malapropisms. No real gems.
“I’m the Decider.”
Not exactly “L’etat, c’est moi.” But then, Bush isn’t a Bourbon King. (Or is he??)
MayDaze, I agree that Keisler is no prize. He is in fact pretty awful. But Leahy should not have made the threat to go slow on Mukasey if he had no intention of following through on it. As I just said in another comment, the Democrats have no way to hold the Bush Administration accountable except through impeachment and the investigations that entails. But the Democrats are just to spineless to do it and the White House knows this and is counting on it.
Parenthetically, it only took 4 months from the beginning of impeachment investigations into Nixon before he resigned, and these investigations began at a time when less than 30% of Americans favored impeachment. Now even before any such investigations about half of Americans do support impeachment so a lot more than during the Nixon era. The difference now is that the Democrats are much more conservative and infinitely more cowardly.
Iraq and China? Interesting. Wonder if the prez is watching this?
Jeeze..just when John Conyers is asking for the memo, too…
“The Bush administration on Thursday denied reports that a secret Justice Department opinion in 2005 cleared the way for the return of painful interrogation tactics or superseded U.S. anti-torture law.
“This country does not torture,” White House press secretary Dana Perino told reporters. “It is a policy of the United States that we do not torture and we do not.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bush_terrorism
Suppose that Iraq decided to throw in with the Chinese? The chinese agree to supply the “security” Iraq needs and give em REAL arms not just pop guns. In return- the Iraqis kick us out. Certainly a possible scenario.
Hugh @ 62
I think you have to factor in the corporate media as well. Compare the Washington Post now to the Washington Post then.
Toby Wollin @ 57
PJ to the Vet. “Lord, Help me be the person my dog thinks I am.”
Toby Wollin @ 64
Yeah, Dana, we trust you. As if.
rwcole @ 65
If that happens, that would be the biggest “Oh Shit!” moment for Bush/Cheney.
kdh22 @ 69
Given sufficient time, probability approaches 1.0 that BushCo will thoroughly fuck up any given thing.
kdh22 @ 69
You haven’t see bloodshed until those dudes get going.
Don’t worry….looks like Gates & Fox are on it:
SANTIAGO, Chile — The United States must deliver weapons to Iraq more quickly, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday, in the wake of an announcement that the Iraqis have ordered $100 million in military equipment from China.
Rush compares Iraq vet to a suicide bomber. Vet says that he bled for the right to speak his mind.
Rush replies that he had a very painful boil on his ass in his battle to defend his country.
ccmask @ 72
Gates is always a day late and a dollar short. I’m certain Cheney has made that so.
“I had not heard of the Amercian Community Survey until someone I knew received one recently. (A rather innocuous sounding name, isn’t it?) Based on this link, it’s been out there awhile. Why hasn’t anyone raised a big, public stink about this? BTW, the “survey” which is mandatory has now grown to 38 pages in length.
I would like this addressed in one of the many debates to come so that more people are aware of it.”
http://www.rutherford.org/arti…..ord_id=299
There is a lot of stuff out there, but this link give a nice overview.
Comment by blueINdallas
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 66
This is truer at the end than at the beginning. Woodward and Bernstein were far down the WaPo food chain and they and the paper more or less fell into the story. They did eventually pursue it though and I don’t know if today’s media would have the talent or interest to do the same.
If China were to end up controlling- say- the oil of both Iran and Iraq- americans would be REALLY pissed. Could happen on Clusterfuck’s watch. Could happen on the watch of the NEXT prez.
Spinal Tap, YES!!!
Von Spakovsky, NO!!!!
Enforce the dam* subpoenas!!!
Bob in HI
Suppose that Iraq decided to throw in with the Chinese? The chinese agree to supply the “security” Iraq needs. . .
I hope they don’t get the Mongols. . .the last time the Mongols came to Baghdad was in 1258. They killed as many as 800,000. Baghdad, which had been the jewel of Mesopotamia at that time was vacant for 700 years until Saddam came to Baghdad and revived it in 1958.
But then again, history tends to repeat itself.
dakine01 @ 51
I’m half way convinced that part of the Dem torpitude is that the WH has the goods on them as well as key Reps. You don’t think all that wiretapping is *really* directed at the anti-ter-ruh-rist effort, do you?
(I do agree, that begs the question of why the WH doesn’t simply expose those Dems, frog march them out, and elect more Reps, so my theory is not perfect, but AGH I’m at such a loss to understand this behavior… they’re all but abjectly tugging their forelocks here at every turn…!)
rwcole @ 65
The Chinese are parnoid about instability. They wouldn’t play anything but a behind-the-scenes role, and not enuf of one to get U.S. kicked out. In fact, U.S. being tied up millitarily in Iraq isvery much to Chinese advantage. Gives ‘em plenty-o-time to increase GDP, military, while we’re tied up in knots elsewhere.
“I wanted SOO badly to lead the charge in defense of my country against the Viet Cong- but everytime I lifted my weapon to fire- there was a painful stab in my ass- a pain MUCH worse than that of a bullet or a bomb- it made it IMPOSSIBLE for me to enlist.”
Hugh @ 76
When the break-in first occurred, the National Desk at WaPo0 were about as they are now.
However Ben Bradlee was a far different editor than FFFH.
Hugh – agreed that Leahy should not have made a statement and then not stand behind it.
I think the Dems would get the same noncompliance with subpoenas from this adminstration if it were an impeachment investigation. Rethugs would claim it a waste of time, etc. I’m not sure where public sentiment would have gone, but the Dems obviously decided it would go against them; maybe a bad call, too, but I’m not so sure.
As far as Nixon, that’s a long time ago for these tired old brain cells, but it strikes me that the investigations that were done by the media had a lot to do with it. We don’t have the same kind of media now, they’re water-carriers for this adminstration.
bg @ 79
Wow! I did not know that [said in Johnny Carson voice]
rwcole @ 73
My corrections.
rwcole @ 82
He wouldn’t have been much worse than half the dumbass officers we had.
katherine Graham Cracker @ 75
More here
We now shouldn’t have any further lingering doubts that indeed, the dems are complicit cowards that intend to do exactly *nothing* about Bu$hCO’s crimes.
What other conclusion must we draw with this latest cave by Leahy, combined with the fact that Congressional Subpoenas were simply ignored, with absolutely no consequences?
“Impeachment is off the table.” Impeachment is a matter of Constitutional LAW, not personal preference on the part of individual lawmakers. Yet, “off the table” it remains, as it was reiterated for all to see this week, because it’s been decreed so by “our honorable representative” despite the majority of the public demanding the contrary.
We must reluctantly conclude that they are part of the same One Party rule that afflicts us all presently- The Republicrat party that only cares about its own needs. We citizens are the LAST priority. We are to sit down, STFU, donate, and pay our taxes. That is our “place” at the Republicrat table.
Flush ‘em all out. They simply refuse to do their jobs- they refuse to stand up for our rights, they refuse to stand up for our laws, and they refuse to stand up for our Constitution.
We little choice but to do OUR jobs and FIRE THEM ALL. IF we want to try to get our country back, that is.
Ye gods
Sorry Mods sorry
Hugh @ 76
I believe Donald Graham and the editors he has hired would actually be opposed…just ook at the people Donald has brought in (take Michael Gerson…far, far away please).
rwcole @ 77
The whole idea of controlling oil is misplaced. Oil is a fungible commodity. China has tried to get preferential treatment in developing basic resources in Africa but in terms of oil and the world market, these efforts are marginal.
We should expect China to be an competitor with us on the oil market and to move aggressively to develop oil fields where it can but they have as little ability to control this resource as we do.
We have witnessed blatant and egregious assaults on the Constitution, Presidential policies, foreign and domestic, that have destroyed trust, destroyed respect for the rule of law, and destroyed respect for America’s fundamental purposes (both here and abroad).
The R Party deserves to be banished to oblivion for being purely destructive and self-serving, caring not a bit for the consequences of what they have unleashed in the world. Yet, some 30% of the populace still ‘believe’ and love the R’s.
Meanwhile, the D Party has done NOTHING in the face of these onslaughts upon reason and humanity itself. Apparently they will continue to do NOTHING. If ever, in our history, impeachment was necessary to the literal survival of democracy itself, then NOW is that time! It will NOT happen. Not because the D Party does not ‘get’ it or that they have become hard of hearing, it will not happen because they do not trust in democracy (or the ‘people’) and all that such trust entails. Nonetheless, they expect to be rewarded for doing NOTHING.
And still – many D voters don’t see anything wrong at all. Many D voters ‘believe’ everything will get ‘better’ when HRC takes the helm.
How may we save this country and the world from true ‘believers’ of all stripes?
Better buckle your bippies, ‘cuz we’re on the ride of our lives. Things have not got as bad as they are going to get. Hang on, there is turbulence ahead…
Front page of NYT website shows pic of Bush with his Supreme Court nominee. Caption should be:
“Come on grandpa- you can sit over here for lunch”.
Still waiting for documents and administration personnel to come to congressional hearings should show everyone the country is controlled by the Republican party. They have their “one party government” and there does not seem to be any chance of throwing off this regime. Don’t forget republicans control the software that counts the the electronic voting machines.
“control of oil”
MMM–oil leases, production contracts, long term purchase contracts, all of these lead to partial control of oil.
Judge says Wide Stance can’t withdraw his guilty plea (CNN). Shit- I was rootin fer the guy.
I just checked the websites for NBC news, CNN, ABC News, CBS News and Fox. None have the China/Iraq story. And, only ABC mentions the NYT Torture story.
To quote Foser:
“It’s the Media”
rwcole @ 96
If you will notice, oil producing countries have moved away from most of these kinds of agreements because they do not benefit producers. American attempts to push a US friendly oil law in Iraq have failed not just because of the regional differences but because it would be a bad deal for Iraqis in general.
I will admit that oil is not totally fungible, however. American refineries can not process heavy sour crudes, for example.
I think I’m going to have to stop coming to Firedoglake. I just can’t take the bad news any more. I have to stop going to Kos and Atrios, all the sites. Cancel my subscriptions to The Nation and the other journals I read. I just really can’t take it.
I’ve written to my congressman and senators and told them they have lost my vote and my financial contributions. I’ve written to Reid and Pelosi and told them the same thing. I just sent a note to Leahy. I expect it to mean nothing to them.
I’d like to lead my life and not be constantly on edge, frustrated, often furious by the newest political depredation. You understand why people drink, become addicted to drugs. They’d rather escape.
I admire Jane’s sense of hopefulness, everyone here at FDL’s sense of the possibility of change and renewal. The sense that maybe, just maybe, if we keep pushing, better days are coming, the ideal that could be America is coming. I don’t have it. I don’t have the energy for the fight. You can say I’ve given in to despair. If I could leave the country, I would. It’s hard to love what it’s become.
Hugh
Well one can- but we sold it to the Venezualans.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 53
Good thoughts for the poor pup! My 10 year old Japanese Chin got put on pain meds (arthritis) and heart medicine yesterday. He stopped eating Tuesday night, and when he didn’t want breakfast yesterday we knew we had a problem.
Ian @ 100
Outrage upon outrage, altogether they appear like an overwhelming swarm of vicious mosquitoes, yet we chase after every single one. Amazingly, we are bitten again and again.
Perhaps we should consider mosquito nets or bug spray. Better still, why don’t we drain the whole damned swamp?
Are you curious as to what I’m suggesting?
Rather than being assaluted time after time, given that the pattern of such assault is obvious, has been obvious, and looks to coninue to be the same obvious pattern, let us consider changing how we respond.
Here’s a good analysis of Gonzo’s torture perjury:
http://www.perrspectives.com/b…..000774.htm
rwcole @ 101
But it didn’t last, did it? The Venezualans have moved to take control of their resources. Most oil producers do.
Solai @ 98
It must be only in their print papers.
This is worth a read, he said, sadly.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
A Conversation in High Places Regarding Torture
Ian @ 100
Ian, I stepped away from it this past week. I just couldn’t take it either. Only spent a little while a day and I just couldn’t handle it either. Good luck to you. I think what is more depressing is that when you do step away for awhile, you realize how many people have absolutely no idea what is going on. Good luck to you. I miss you already :))
eCAHNomics @ 60
“Sycophant Savior”. Priceless.
Ian @ 100
You are not alone in those feelings, it is truly overwhelming if you are paying attention to all to the horrible game this administration is playing.
I cannot speak for you, and I am where you are on a regular basis, but, We will prevail
Just got to the lake. I read Leahy’s letter differently. I think he is saying, I will only get you confirmed if you first promise that if you are appointed you will release all the subpoena’d documents. He can’t do that, can he? I think Leahy may be being cleverer than you give him credit for.
Dear Moderator(s)
I appreciate greatly your willingness to allow me such an extended window of time (well more than half-an-hour) in which to edit my comment @ 103.
I confess to being more than a little surprised however, and wonder if this is standard procedure or whether something just got ’stuck’.
As I often find myself, inadvertently, at the end of threads, owing to a slow and ponderous rate of thought production and an even more sluggish brain-finger synapse; I’m simply left in the dust.
Gonzales and Rove didn’t “buy” anything. They had to go because they were becoming true liabilities to the GOP/Dems (same thing). The REASON that Leahy “backed down” (again) is that he and the Dems as a whole don’t want to “get to the bottom” of anything!. They are NOT investigating anything at all, not in the House, not in the Senate. The proof is clear to see. They ALLOW the entire Bush Admin to refuse to obey subpoenas and they REFUSE to do anything substantive to bring a single “investigation” to a conclusion. Why? Because they don’t want to come to a conclusion! They are complicit. They are fully supportive. They support torture, rendition, abuse, war, eliminating habeas corpus, etc. It is the ONLY explanation. Any other “explanation” requires fantastical Rube Goldberg Conspiracies and are simply not credible. Leahy supports torture, abuse, politicization of government offices (maybe not the specifics of the Bush politicization, but the idea that Presidents CAN do this and SHOULD do this for personal gain).
Leahy didn’t “cave”. Leahy wasn’t threatened. Leahy did not get outmaneuvered. He went along because he sees nothing, not really, that deserves true investigation. The “investigation”, like ALL the Democratic “investigations” that come, literally, to naught, is theater. Nothing else.
Chetnolian @ 111
No, he’s not. He is not being “clever” anymore than the Dems in ANY form have been “clever” or “geniuses” in handling ANY scandal or massive illegality committed by Bush. I daresay that they Dems are pissed because Bush has been so BLATANT in his illegalities that it makes it hard for the Dems to do what they want: to IGNORE it and TOTALLY support everything 100%.
There is no cleverness here. There is complicity. There is refusal to follow the requirements of one’s oath of office because it hurts the bottom line, hurts corporations, and doesn’t help shepherd the PNAC plans forward.
Breaking – Craig’s attempt to rescind guilty plea denied.
C-Span 2 crawl
Praedor Atrebates @ 113
Praedor;
Hello, I always appreciate your unwillingness to be ‘touched’ by blind optimism. It would seem that a sober assessment of our collective dilemma is yet a bit away. That is why I’m trying to suggest a somewhat different approach. It is strategy, not mere tactics we must consider. What do you think?
newtonusr @ 115
Nice.
I’m not an attorney mind you but I thought it was illegal to lie to congress. Isn’t it about time the ethics committee begin taking some of these repiglican liars to the woodshed over false statements.
YellowDog @ 118
Will you be surprised if the d’s do not do the ‘timely’(or even ‘past-timely’) thing?
David W. Bartoo @ 116
I got over being touche with blind optimism after yet another HUGE phone call/email/fax extravaganza had all the Dem aids scrambling to deal with the flow of calls and demands that they stand up against the latest outrage (how many times that has happened?) came to Jack Squat! After an initial “show of strength” by Reid or Pelosi (I GAG to type their disgusting, useless, criminal names) only to see abject failure to do what they said, what the promised to do. I lost count actually because it happens EVERY TIME. That shit doesn’t work! They do NOT represent us, they do NOT care about their oaths, they do NOT care about the Constitution. Seriously, they do NOT. They haven’t even READ the pesky piece of paper!
That said, you know what would work? It is something that you all, in the collective sense (here, at dkos, mydd, etc, etc), will REFUSE to do: quit giving money! Shut your purses, wallets, fanny packs, credit cards, etc. QUIT GIVING MONEY. Quit taking calls from the DCCC and DSCC and DNC. Quit the party. Overtly quit the party. Quitting the party does not mean that you don’t get to vote for whatever criminal or reprobate the Dem Crime Family puts forth come 2008, and there is a place to do this very public quitting: http://dlindorff.mayfirst.org/?q=iquitthisparty
Send messages that the Dems will actually hear. They will ONLY hear money problems and voter registration changes. I am a proud and FREE Independent. I will NOT be loyal to a party, ANY party, ever again, certainly not in the two-party system we are illegally saddled with.
Quit fucking around with useless phone calls and emails and letters. They are IGNORED. Clearly. They have done NOTHING.
Others may see things differently. But it appears to me that our ’strategy’ has been, to this point in time, more-or- less simply one of reaction.
We react to the R’s outrageous assaults. Such reaction is mostly defined by great anger. Anger which, if I’m perceiving it correctly, greatly affects our own serenity and produces but little effect, except for smug, smirking pleasure, on those who have caused it.
We react with disbelieve and consternation, also impacting our emotional health, to the studied INACTION of the d’s.
By all means, we must continue to catalog and to assess the mounting costs of All the many destructive and harmful outrages. We must also CONTINUE to pressure the d’s. However, by now, it must be clear that things are not working as we might have reasonably hoped and expected. Realistically then, we should, reasonably expect little effect from such endeavors.
If the SCHIPS veto is over-ridden, then it will be a great (and well-deserved moral and human) victory. There will probably be few others.
Laura Doty recently suggested that, by working together, there are other things which we can successfully accomplish. Her comment was received, apparently, in much the same way the proverbial ’snowball’ was welcomed in ….
I am most curious as why this should be so.
Praedor Atrebates @ 120
Praedor, as you can see from my comment @ 121, I do not completely agree with you. Those e-mails, letters and phone calls, at least do no harm, and some among us find such ‘action’ (I place that in quotes only to suggest that there is other ‘action’ which has received meager consideration here and at other progressive sites. Before I delineate my thoughts regarding these ‘other’ possible and, I think, possibly effective actions I really would appreciate any thoughts you might have upon solutions to our ’situation’. (What is the correct word for the possible collapse of our society and potential world ruination?)
Let us consider.
It may be fairly said, that our concepts of social organization are essentially still dominated by precepts ‘developed’ during what we call the medieval period of our history, at least so far as the major ‘civilizations’ of the world are concerned. These concepts are tempered slightly by the so-called periods of ‘enlightenment’, and by humankind’s persistent and recurring efforts to effect genuinely just and sustainable
societies. ‘Society’ is simply the quality of the relationship among individuals.
To complicate matters, our emotional equipment is pure stone-age – and not likely to improve overmuch.
beerfart liberal @ 17
Orrin should name names, so we can get rid of the idjit.
But, we shouldn’t just put pressure on them — it won’t make Georgie Boy behave himself. We have to get rid of the dead wood and the kudzu squeezing the life out of our Democracy.
JF @ 19
More good news!
LS @ 24
He’s been warned and already has had time to spend more time with his family. Time to start proceedings and let him feel the whip.
Beside these considerations lies a conceit.
Those alive in almost every era of our collective history have ‘believed’ (assuming they were comfortably ‘well-off’ enough to entertain conceits) that their society represented the epitome of social development(that the definition of ‘epitome’ does not, in fact, mean ‘the best’ is of small consolation).
We, with all our ‘American exceptionalism,’ have not escaped that particular, albeit popular, error.
Of late however, observant (out)posters have noted a growing number of alarming trends which underscore the stunning hubris and maladaptiveness of that seemingly ubiquitous mental habit of the ‘upright’ ape.
kdh22 @ 69
Iraqis actually trying to stand up won’t please George. He doesn’t want to stand down EVER.
I hope al Maliki has good security around him.
Solai @ 98
Damn Liberal Media!
I hope my recent comments have not proved offensive, being neither so outrageous nor so obvious as to bear no repetition or scrutiny.
Arguably, the most human trait is curiosity or its close companion, the display of facile imagination. Such traits, If such I may term them, appear almost inbred, as it were, and are manifest quite universally amongst the young, at least, of our species.
I trust that no one finds these notions to be totally foreign to their own personal observations.
‘Imagination’ in children is ‘facile’; meaning that ‘it comes easily’. This is the genesis of creativity, of discovery and of invention.
‘Imagination’ in adults, while also ‘facile’ may often mean ‘easily achieved, but without attention to quality’ that is, ’superficial.’
This is the fertile ground for fear and the manipulation of fear. It is the means by which otherwise seemingly mature societies may be bullied into war and other madness.
These ‘trait’ which I have been addressing are essential survival adaptations which facilitate and embrace the experience we cal ‘learning’. But these ‘traits’ are not ‘learned’. They may be encouraged or they may be stifled, they may be built upon or the may be replaced with ‘learned’ responses, ranging from sullen indifference to rapacious greed. They may be obscured by personality disorders, ranging from debilitating insecurity to pathological depravity.
Fortunately, the vast majority of us fall, however comfortably or uncomfortably, into the range of behavior and consciousness termed, rather mundanely, as ‘normal’.
This suggests that for most of us, in our essentials, we are more alike than different.
As an aside, this would seem to suggest that ‘difference’ is essentially ’superficial’ and, on balance, to be appreciated rather than feared.
Many of us have realized that our so-called ‘representatives’ do not think and ‘feel’ the same way about things which we find disturbing in the extreme. If the outrages which vex and discourage us so profoundly have a similar effect upon those who were ‘elected’ to speak on our behalf and to act in our names, then there is scant evidence of similar despair to be seen on their faces, in their ‘official’ pronouncements or in their ‘official’ actions. One might be forgiven for thinking that we live on separate planets if not within separate ‘realities’.
Were this state of affairs not frustrating enough, we must also contend with the apparent reality of living in a country where many if not most of our fellow citizens also, we are told, seem to inhabit a different reality to that which so concerns us.
The word of greatest significance in that last
sentence is ‘apparent’.
We are assured of the truth of this disparity between what we think and the what larger public believes by the media, who distinguish themselves, by exhibiting a supine servility in the presence of Republican Nabobs. They have assumed this ‘position’ since the early days of Ronald Reagan’s Presidency, even dubbing him the ‘great communicator.’ As many here have pointed out, the primary function of the media is to happily peddle whatever the Republican Party espouses. Few members of the ‘fourth estate’ question the motives or the likely outcomes of policy decisions so unashamedly destructive and mindless, that to call their ‘reporting’ blather would debase the good name of nonsense.
Why should we choose to believe the media when they say, ‘The people do not care about the war. They do not care about health care or the state of the economy.’ Why should we, for even a moment, believe a media whom we trust not at all?
When we venture into the places where the vast ‘unknowing, uncaring’ public are actually found and actually seek to engage in meaningful conversation, I, at least, have found most people to be deeply concerned, frustrated and even fearful that very bad times could well be soon upon us.
I have discovered that people are neither oblivious nor uncaring. Many are simply not as well-informed as those of us who gather here.
In fact, most of the human beings with whom I have spoken and with whom I have shared my concerns as well as my thoughts about how our country should function, are hungry for discussion. And ever more open to exploring visions of a better, more equitable, just and humane America.
As I have no evidence to suspect that this hunger for engaged conversation is not fairly widespread, I think that we would all do well to seek to build on the common, shared reality
confronting all Americans who are not ‘gaming’ the system.
Let me be blunt. The Republicans despise the ‘people’ and while playing on their fears mock and belittle them. For Republican ‘leaders’ the public are just stupid, gullible fools whom they toy with.
Democratic ‘leaders’ do not trust the people, neither do they trust in democracy, mocking the very meaning of their own Party’s name.
We will never find true kinship with the ‘leaders’ of either of the parties of power. I am certain however, that if we underestimate the intelligence and fundamental decency of the people who are more like us then we sometimes might care to ‘believe,’ then our future is bleak indeed.
The ‘people’ can come to ‘understand’ and also, I honestly feel, to appreciate the truth if we are willing risk speaking in the context of providing a vision of the future which all of us who are not manipulators and advantage seekers must share. If we speak and act from principle and honor, then we may be able to play an important role in saving our country, our world and ourselves. We will not gain riches or aggrandizement in this endeavor and I would be less than honest if I did not say that it will probably be the most difficult thing we have ever tried to do in our lives.
I would also be less than honest if I did not say that I intuitively sense that we have been preparing for this work all of our lives. Think about it. If you have something else that you believe would succeed with lesser risk, then please share it.
We might look upon the Constitution as a bucket.A bucket which safely transports a very precious ‘thing’ through time. Our rights as human beings and as citizens. The Constitution is not perfect, but we may consider it a decent beginning.
At the moment our bucket is behaving more like a sieve.
A bucket full of holes soon loses its practical utility. I suppose it could be displayed as a decorative device, but as a means of carrying much beyond rocks or chunks of dead wood it is reduced to appearance, not substance.
It would be wise on our part, should we contemplate repairing the bucket not to trust such ‘repair’ to the good will of those with ice picks in their back pockets.