Comments on: Bush’s Betrayal of Trust: It’s Not Just Iraq http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:39:14 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: taylorbad http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1016466 taylorbad Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:40:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1016466 <p>Fast forward to 2009 or 2010…remembering “going to war with the army you have, not the army you want”? Well, the IRAQ debacle has broken that army and there will be a big shoving match for defense appropriations to get to the head of the line in the post-Bush years. Everything from armaments, aircraft, tanks and other vehicles, uniforms, ammunition, communications, etc will have to be replaced, and of course, that will be the perfect time to “modernize” everything (read: huge appropriations for weapons research and development).<br /> What hasn’t been blown up, shot up, wrecked or worn out in the desert heat and sand will be abandoned. I am telling you now so you won’t be horrified when you see all the crap we are going to leave in IRAQ when and if we leave.<br /> Believe me, the military is going to be at the head of the line with its hands out. A good question for ALL presidential candidates is, “what is your perspective on future military needs and, if you are elected, will it be “business as usual?” Don’t vote for anyone who doesn’t have a realistic answer and a plan to move the US in a new direction that is smarter and more visionary than the one the peabrains who gave us a “global war on terror” provided.</p> Fast forward to 2009 or 2010…remembering “going to war with the army you have, not the army you want”? Well, the IRAQ debacle has broken that army and there will be a big shoving match for defense appropriations to get to the head of the line in the post-Bush years. Everything from armaments, aircraft, tanks and other vehicles, uniforms, ammunition, communications, etc will have to be replaced, and of course, that will be the perfect time to “modernize” everything (read: huge appropriations for weapons research and development).
What hasn’t been blown up, shot up, wrecked or worn out in the desert heat and sand will be abandoned. I am telling you now so you won’t be horrified when you see all the crap we are going to leave in IRAQ when and if we leave.
Believe me, the military is going to be at the head of the line with its hands out. A good question for ALL presidential candidates is, “what is your perspective on future military needs and, if you are elected, will it be “business as usual?” Don’t vote for anyone who doesn’t have a realistic answer and a plan to move the US in a new direction that is smarter and more visionary than the one the peabrains who gave us a “global war on terror” provided.

]]> By: jgmurphy http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1015807 jgmurphy Fri, 05 Oct 2007 06:47:16 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1015807 <p>Wow, thanks for the link. I copied in my entire e-list on it.</p> <p>Great stuff from the AP—whoda thunkit?</p> Wow, thanks for the link. I copied in my entire e-list on it.

Great stuff from the AP—whoda thunkit?

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1015216 MarkH Fri, 05 Oct 2007 03:16:14 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1015216 <p><a href="#comment-1014401"><em>juslin @ 96</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>allo allo pups ;)<br /> another repug’s leaving…sen pete domenici….can dems pick up this seat?</p></blockquote> <p>A couple of possibilities: Bill Richardson (governor, presidential candidate, well respected), Joe Wilson (former ambassador, family is Repub he’s recently switched to Dem, revealed Niger yellowcake fraud) and maybe a Udall (maybe son of former Sen and presidential candidate Morris Udall)</p> <p>And, since I don’t know NM politics there might even be someone else to consider.</p> juslin @ 96

allo allo pups ;)
another repug’s leaving…sen pete domenici….can dems pick up this seat?

A couple of possibilities: Bill Richardson (governor, presidential candidate, well respected), Joe Wilson (former ambassador, family is Repub he’s recently switched to Dem, revealed Niger yellowcake fraud) and maybe a Udall (maybe son of former Sen and presidential candidate Morris Udall)

And, since I don’t know NM politics there might even be someone else to consider.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1015189 MarkH Fri, 05 Oct 2007 03:09:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1015189 <p><a href="#comment-1014360"><em>LS @ 61</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>In order for Bush and Cheney to not be prosecuted in the future, there have to be pardons. If Cheney leaves before the end of the term, Bush will pardon him. There will be a new VP. Bush will have to resign before the end of his term, and that VP will become President and pardon Bush. Otherwise, they are vulnerable forever to prosecution. Am I wrong about this?</p></blockquote> <p>Close. More likely it wouldn’t be Bush that pardons him, but Congress which would grant an immunity from future prosecution in exchange for all of his wonderfully detailed testimony and resignation.</p> <p>And, the new VP has to be confirmed by Congress, so there’s no way it would be someone bushy.</p> LS @ 61

In order for Bush and Cheney to not be prosecuted in the future, there have to be pardons. If Cheney leaves before the end of the term, Bush will pardon him. There will be a new VP. Bush will have to resign before the end of his term, and that VP will become President and pardon Bush. Otherwise, they are vulnerable forever to prosecution. Am I wrong about this?

Close. More likely it wouldn’t be Bush that pardons him, but Congress which would grant an immunity from future prosecution in exchange for all of his wonderfully detailed testimony and resignation.

And, the new VP has to be confirmed by Congress, so there’s no way it would be someone bushy.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1015152 MarkH Fri, 05 Oct 2007 03:01:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1015152 <p><a href="#comment-1014313"><em>john in sacramento @ 18</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="http://www.heady.co.uk/rm/mission_accomplished.jpg">Close up of the <i>Mission Accomplished</i> sign</a></p></blockquote> <p>Wicked funny!</p> john in sacramento @ 18

Close up of the Mission Accomplished sign

Wicked funny!

]]> By: satchmo http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1014546 satchmo Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:37:44 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1014546 <p>Note to Associate Press: It’s not 73,000 dead, its 1 million dead.</p> <p>Brought to you by BushCo.</p> Note to Associate Press: It’s not 73,000 dead, its 1 million dead.

Brought to you by BushCo.

]]> By: Beyonce Welch http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1014537 Beyonce Welch Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:35:10 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1014537 <p>Every time that I see Mr. Bush on Tv I have to change the channel or turn the Television off. I am getting better I use to thrown pillow at the screen and yell. I do not believe yelling at my age ( well over fifty ) is a good idea.</p> Every time that I see Mr. Bush on Tv I have to change the channel or turn the Television off. I am getting better I use to thrown pillow at the screen and yell. I do not believe yelling at my age ( well over fifty ) is a good idea.

]]> By: Valley Girl http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1014514 Valley Girl Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:23:04 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1014514 <p><a href="#comment-1014500"><em>demi @ 166</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1014479"><em>Valley Girl @ 164</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>demi- (OT) personally, it’s the See’s Bordeaux that are my weakness.</p></blockquote> <p>Yes, dear. The day I picked up the box of Molassas Chips, I introduced my son to the Bordeauxs.<br /> Definetly at the top of the list.<br /> I wish I could afford a whole pound of those…but then…I wouldn’t be able to fit into the comment box.</p></blockquote> <p>hehe…. only CAians understand about “See’s”.</p> demi @ 166

Valley Girl @ 164

demi- (OT) personally, it’s the See’s Bordeaux that are my weakness.

Yes, dear. The day I picked up the box of Molassas Chips, I introduced my son to the Bordeauxs.
Definetly at the top of the list.
I wish I could afford a whole pound of those…but then…I wouldn’t be able to fit into the comment box.

hehe…. only CAians understand about “See’s”.

]]> By: juslin http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1014505 juslin Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:18:04 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1014505 <p>ahhh we all have our own opinions….its what makes us unique and why i read this blog</p> ahhh we all have our own opinions….its what makes us unique and why i read this blog

]]> By: demi http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1014500 demi Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:15:56 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/04/bushs-betrayal-of-trust-its-not-just-iraq/#comment-1014500 <p><a href="#comment-1014479"><em>Valley Girl @ 164</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>demi- (OT) personally, it’s the See’s Bordeaux that are my weakness.</p></blockquote> <p>Yes, dear. The day I picked up the box of Molassas Chips, I introduced my son to the Bordeauxs.<br /> Definetly at the top of the list.<br /> I wish I could afford a whole pound of those…but then…I wouldn’t be able to fit into the comment box.</p> Valley Girl @ 164

demi- (OT) personally, it’s the See’s Bordeaux that are my weakness.

Yes, dear. The day I picked up the box of Molassas Chips, I introduced my son to the Bordeauxs.
Definetly at the top of the list.
I wish I could afford a whole pound of those…but then…I wouldn’t be able to fit into the comment box.

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