[It's not just Irving, of course: the video above is of police violence to break up a peaceful pro-migrants demonstration in Los Angeles this past Spring. Thanks to Marisa for this post. She's been covering this story regularly at Latina Lista. -- Pach]
Break the law, expect to do the time. That's a tenet of any justice system that deserves respect and enforcement. But there's a big difference between a major crime classified as a felony and lesser crimes known as misdemeanors* that can either draw a stiff fine or a short jail stay.
Illegal immigration is one of those misdemeanors. The only time it transforms into a felony is when the undocumented immigrant's record shows he/she was deported once before and they are now back in the country illegally.
For the vast majority of undocumented immigrants, this is the only "major" law they will ever break while living in the United States. Yet, because of the anti-immigrant rhetoric that is running rampant nowadays that freely labels all undocumented immigrants as lawbreakers and equates them with serious criminals, the public mindset is that they are all wanted on the FBI's Most Wanted List.
That's hardly the case but you wouldn't know it with a visit to Irving, Texas.
These days, the Dallas, Texas suburb is looking like the proverbial speed trap for undocumented immigrants. It's one thing for undocumented immigrants to be caught behind the wheel of a car since in Texas they can't qualify to have a driver's license but to be taken into custody for enjoying a barbecue?
Deportations from the city of Irving have risen dramatically over the last few months, 300 per month according to some estimates. It's gotten so bad that the Mexican Consulate has issued a travel warning for its citizens to avoid the suburb since "looking" Latino is enough to get you carted off to jail.
Of course the Mayor and Police Chief deny that there is any kind of racial profiling going on. But when one small suburb with a total population of only 206,000 has about half of the deportees for the region of the North Texas Mexican consulate, which spans from East Texas all the way up to the Texas Panhandle, something's not right.
The Mayor has been quoted as saying that the police force is just doing an excellent job. Again, Speed Trap, USA cities say the same thing.
The program that the city of Irving is participating in that allows them to identify undocumented immigrants is called the Criminal Alien Program.
It's a program that empowers the police force, on behalf of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), to identify those immigrants who are not here legally - but the key factor in this program is that before it can be determined whether or not the person is in the country illegally, he/she must already be in jail for another offense.
What's happening in Irving is that there seems to be clear abuse of this program. Church pastors and Mexican consulate officials are reporting that too many of the people they speak with are saying that police are indiscriminately approaching them on the streets, in yards, etc. and demanding proof of their immigration status - then they are carted off to jail.
What is happening in Irving is, sure, the undocumented immigrant community is thinning out but there are still many immigrant families left behind, especially children who are legal citizens.
The message to these children is no better than the message their parents tried to flee from in their native countries - the police can't be trusted.
To the citizens of Irving, the message is far from a good job well done but one of planting the impression that every brown face is a dangerous criminal that needs to be removed from the streets.
What that does for relations among the city's Anglos, African Americans and Hispanics is pretty predictable.
What it will do to the city's future is unimaginable.
*It is generally a misdemeanor for the first offense, and can be a felony of subsequent convictions. See section 275 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, as amended. However, persons entering the US without inspection are never charged with any of this the first time and if caught are placed in removal proceedings which are civil and not criminal.
(If a person is deported and then sneaks back in and is caught, that is a felony and they get one year federal prison. Getting caught the first time, with no prior deportation, is a civil proceeding even though technically he could be charged with a misdemeanor. )
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Marisa, welcome back to the Lake! Excellent post!!!
Hola Marissa!
I was just scanning a list of 14 points of fascism. Interesting to see how many of them: nationalism; disdain for human rights; identification of scapegoats as a unifying cause; obsession with national security; suppression of labor power; obsession with crime and punishment; and corruption can be found in the treatment of folks you’re writing about.
I think it’s important to note that this is not only racism, it is FASCISM alive and kicking in this country.
Thank you Marisa for your work.
Domenici to retire…!!!
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/.....retire.php
CTuttle @ 7
guess that ethics investigation won’t be catching up with him anytime soon, eh?
Elliott @ 8
Heather Wilson’s anointment as successor might be derailed…!!! *g*
Detention centers really worry me. As does Blackwater.
Where did everybody go…???
The whole immigration issue is about racism. Why Americans find people with brown skins threatening is a mystery to me, but there it is.
I have not read anything that argues convincingly that illegal immigrants are a net drain on the economy. My guess is that they’re a pretty big net plus, based on all the remittances they make to their relatives back home, which they wouldn’t be able to do were they not working like slaves. I’ve not seen any stats that indicate that criminality (other than their immigration status) is higher than in the general U.S. population. My guess is it’s a lot less, since they want to avoid being caught & sent back.
These 12 million came in while Clinton was prez & no one said word one about it. (Except in CA, where, what could they have been thinking about who would mow their lawns & care for their children.) W thought it was a political winner, & thought he actually knew something about the subject, having been a TX gov & speaking high school Spanish. But it turns out that if you peel back a layer of the onion, all those who never perceived a problem in the past suddenly think they’ve been invaded.
Racism indeed. Nothing else explains it.
What’s the legal basis for the police chasing the people out of the park? Doesn’t freedom of assembly come into play here? Did I miss something? Damn.
This is happening in Sprindale, AR, Chicken central, home of Tysons foods. Another tactic ICE is using is in tandem with local and State police they are monitoring in person each individual traffic stop. If they desire, a driver will be arrested and ICE will kindly drive passengers home whether you want them to or not and then ICE will search the entire home and anyone there.
Now what would the police of Irving do, if a couple thousand Spanish-speaking US citizens came to town for a visit? Not as a march, but just in ones and twos and fours, coming through Irving at all times of day, all on the same day.
Stop them all for an ID check? That could take a while.
And if they happened not to have ID on them? That could fill the jails up pretty damn quick.
That could get expensive.
And if each one demanded a trial before a judge, with a jury? That could get mighty expensive.
Eureka Springs @ 14
So, basically, Tyson didn’t pony up enough cash for the Repugs’ campaign coffers…?!!! ;-)
Maybe this is why the repubs are so unconcerned about alienating minorities. There going to deport/imprison them all before the next election.
And, how exactly does a person w/o a drivers license prove he’s a citizen?
Many white folks don’t want brown folks living in their neigborhoods because they are racists.
A white lady named Lilly told me that there were renters living in her new subdivision and she did not like it. The renters have lots of children.
I discovered that these renters are Latinos. They are construction workers. As housing prices fell they bought homes in the neighborhood where they were working. Its the American dream. Seems that the only problem is that they are not white. Too bad.
Peterr @ 15
Clever, but where would you find the brown people to subject themselves to such treatment in the current U.S. environment?
Sorry to be Off Topic.
I have been following this site for a while.
Lately it’s Blackwater, Rush, Gwb, various other asides. This politician, that politician.
This, or that policy. What strikes me more, is
the SCHIP issue. If you don’t have healthy and sane kids, Where is your country?
All this anger and flag waving does not make a
country. It is well educated and healthy children, whom given a future chance, will decide
for themselves, theirs, and our futures.
Personally, I place trust in them.
Shame on that veto.
People need something else to worry about. This has been ginned up for domestic consumption but I can’t figure out why. We really don’t need to be at a fever pitch about this.
I bet Lou Dobbs would have settled on some other topic to rant about if the war were going better (in other words, if it was over already).
There are a few nice people that live in Irving. Most of the rest are trailer trash with too much money.
Welcome, 123! How did you get that great handle so late in the game?!
hackworth @ 18
We have that around here. Plenty of Puerto Ricans. perfectly legal American citizens, but culturally outsiders. Time and population shift are easing the problem. Although there is tension between the Puerto Rican community and the Mexicans (who could be legal residents or not)
123 @ 20
i’ll go off topic with you to say ‘hear, hear!’
solai @ 17
A legal immigrant would have documentation - I don’t know what you call them but here they would have documentation of having landed immigrant status or refugee status, or that they have applied for status and are awaiting determination, or citizenship papers once they become citizens.
A Canadian/American born citizen would have a birth certificate - again which here in Canada automatically makes them citizens. I don’t know how you guys do these things, though
CT, Evidently not but Sens. Pryor and Lincoln are doing Tysons and Wal Marts bidding don’t worry about that. The repeal of the Estate tax is coming up in the Senate once again this week, iirc, and Blanche Lincoln is in the Senate for one main reason to eliminate the Estate tax for the Waltons and their fellow AR billionaires.. The rest is just a game of checkers by comparison.
I love Mexicans.
Margot @ 21
Actually Lou Dobbs has been on this kick for over a decade. He started out being a populist labor supporter, arguing that outsourcing was taking away all the U.S. jobs. Then he segued into the immigration debate by arguing that immigrants were taking away U.S. jobs. Then it was easier for him to go into high dudgeon, as he could rant about the U.S. not being in control of its borders. Suddenly it became the gov’s fault, not business’ fault.
Fern @ 26
yeah, we have those too, but no one wants to have to ‘carry papers’ or be ’stopped to have your papers checked.’ too fascist.
Fine post, Marisa. Thanks for bringing us the story.
Eureka Springs @ 27
The repeal of the ‘Death Tax’ only benefits the Waltons and a select few, no doubt about that…!!!
What about the wave of illegal Canadians? They’ll lower the excitement level, use “eh” inappropriately and mispronounce “about” as “a boot”. We better round them up as fast as we can, we just need to have the cops stop every white person we see and demand identification and proof of citizenship. /snark
A question - are European immigrants treated the same or differently from others? What about Asians and Africans? Is it mostly latinos that are getting nailed by ICE?
I guess what I am getting at - is it anti-immigration in general, or targeted at specific races/types of immigrants.
Loo Hoo. @ 23
Still don’t know if I’m doing this right, but thanks. Just drifted out of the top. Having been
here for years, just can’t give it up. Of course!
I recognize, at least your ‘Handle’. Thanks.
eCAHNomics @ 19
They’re already here, and already subjected to this kind of treatment. But it happens all over, not localized in one spot, and it goes unreported (generally speaking).
But this tactic is not new — it’s nothing but a variation on what King and the black civil rights marchers did, and Ghandi and his followers before them.
And I wouldn’t be surprised if some of my clergy colleagues in the area try something like this.
Fern @ 34
See my 33. Being brown with an accent is all it takes, sometimes being brown by itself is enough.
Kathryn in MA @ 30
Agreed. Though a citizenship card is no more difficult to carry than a driver’s license or bank card.
petedownunder @ 33
We’re a scary bunch all right.
123 @ 20
Please don’t worry SCHIP has been covered quite extensively here including this and this both today from Jane and Christy respectively.
They don’t even try to hide it anymore. Great post, Marisa.
petedownunder @ 37
Any kind of brown? Or is there special malice towards Mexicans and such?
Peterr@36
Yeah, but they don’t do it voluntarily.
Fern @ 26
Pretty much the same deal in the US. Legal immigrants will receive a green card within 30 days of landing. Then, they will get an appointment for biometrics (fingerprints and photo) and finally an interview and a resident alien card (conditional residency) within about 90 days. They’re good for two years. Then they go for unconditional alien residency.
Immigrants get a much better deal in Canada with the health care benefit they receive immediately upon landing. The nanny program in Canada is an excellent opportunity for third world citizens to make a better life for themselves. They can then support their parents and siblings back home.
ICE is doing the same thing in Marin County. DUI check points are set up and ICE is waiting in the wings. The immigrants all say they are from Mexico, get sent back, and they come right back over the border. They are back at work in a week or so. Some haven’t even missed their subprime mortage payment.
I’m sorry to go OT, but I just saw this at ThinkProgress. This was part of Bush’s speech today:
OMG, The President Of The United States Of America is an as***le.
Peterr @ 36
However if part of the purpose or these crackdowns is to bolster the incarceration industry, then it could be counterproductive.
eCAHNomics @ 12
Fern @ 39
Not to fear, the Minutemen are on the job.
Thank you to those of you who were worried about us last night during that storm.
lahoma.
RBG @ 49
Thank goodness for their watchful eyes! lol
solai @ 46
Really? Let me look….
RBG @ 49
Suckers. It’s an exceedingly long and mostly very boring border.
I get that. But, what if you’re a 2nd or 3rd or 4th generation Mexican-American and you get stopped. How do those people prove they have a right to be here?
Fern @ 34
Any individual with high yellow coloring or darker would be a target. White Canadians pass as real Archie Bunker Americans and travel unmolested.
Fern @ 53
Much easier for the terrorists to come across the Canadian border than the Mexican border. Many Muslims in Canada & less scrutiny at the border.
Fern @ 53
yeah, but you gotta admire that they walk the talk.
petedownunder @ 33
The rush to the border may well be going in the other direction!
For my Chicana and Chicano cousins in Dallas. We will see you guys this Saturday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....mp;search=
Speaking of immigration and incarceration in Texas, the Williamson County commissioners may tell ICE and DHS to take a hike and take their immigration prison with them next October when the contract expires. The county owns the building that houses the Don Hutto Residential Center, and doesn’t want to be legally liable for the activities of the company that runs the place.
It couldn’t happen to a nicer place.
dakine01 @ 40
Thankyou for that. I live outside or your borders, so basically, I am just asking with
probably less information that you have within
yours. Believe me, whatever transpires, much
attention is paid. We are all included.
It is not personal.
solai @ 54
Well, that’s a good question. A driver license and the lack of a foreign accent would likely be enough to satisfy any American Gestapo. In the event of a heavy spanish accent, I don’t know.
Fern @ 38
The very idea that you have to carry the card is what makes it so dangerous. What’s next, internal passports? In a free society you can’t allow the government that kind of power.
eCAHNomics @ 29,
Thanks, I wasn’t aware of Dobbs’ long history on this.
I do wish people would better prioritize their limited ranting time.
Universal Health Care!
Peterr @ 60
What a good place to apply pressure on this!!!
Hi Marisa. I am a Texican teenager living in Texas. I was born here. At school they said we should always have our school ID with us in case we get stopped, and the phone number for the school police is on the back of the card, and the city police are supposed to call the school police if there is a problem.
I think brown skin Hispanic people only get stopped and asked if they are a citizen when they are doing something the cops want to stop. But I don’t know. Nobody gets stopped in the neighborhood where I live, but they do on the east side.
123 - most certainly, we are all in this together! Thank you for your concern - we are trying to do right by you and everyone else.
solai @ 46
Alert the media!
Another superb post Marisa about the descent into hell that this country is being taken!
Also, I know this is OT, but it too seems to epitomize that same “descent into hell” you write about - From the NYT:
(My bold)
This is a 6 page long article and is the lead story running at the New York Times. Read it and weep.
If any of you have been to a foreign country, you know how protective you are of your passport. My mother bought this passport pouch on a string to wear it like a necklace under her clothes. She wanted to loan it to me last time I went to Europe. I passed, but I did give it to the hotel to put it in their safe. Imagine that kind of fear, every day.
solai @ 70
That is why school ID’s come on lanyards.
I live in Irving in the 70’s and it was a “Sundown Town” then. My sister and her family live there now and the attitude is the same. She does not think “those people” fit in to their definition of the happy burb. The problem is that Irving seems to be developing an active Latino economic base, at least the last time I visited.
The citizens better be careful least they discover a big portion of their tax revenve gone and a lot of boarded up buildings. Could lead to a new, undesirabe population group.
But Hispanics were in Texas WAY before any of the white people came.
SeamusD @ 63
You are absolutely right. The thing is, though, that most legal alien residents would not even take a short walk without carrying their resident alien card. They don’t trust the government. Can you blame them?
solai @ 54
Birth certificate.
Kathryn in MA @ 25
I may be late, but thank you too.
solai @ 70
After Nixon was reelected, i and a few others left to hitchhike south as far as we could go and found ourselves on the ‘hippy trail.’ i made a passport pouch as you described out of fabulous Guatemalan fabric and wore it on the outside so the fabric would show. But, yes indeed, you did not take off that pouch.
Fern @ 75
Yeah, but saying “Mine’s at home, officer” gets old after a while.
“I’ll show you mine if you show me yours” doesn’t get a much better reaction.
SnarKassandra @ 71
i never heard of school IDs on a lanyard. Too sad.
SnarKassandra @ 73
I know, it doesn’t make sense.
When I was a kid in New Mexico, I heard people from foreign states like Oregon saying, “I wish these people would go back where they belong.”
‘These people’ had families who had been there since the 1500s. It’s just crazy.
Margot @ 80
Hey, we stole it fair & square.
My dad’s family came to Texas from New York in 1987. My mom’s family was in Texas from when it was part of Mexico.
Ooops. 1977
SnarKassandra @ 73
Revisionist Snark? *g*
OT-
Brian McGough, the Iraq war veteran who was compared by Rush Limbaugh to a suicide bomber, appeared on MSNBC’s Countdown tonight. Part of his response to Limbaugh:
link
I remember a long time ago Lahoma and I were stopped outside a little town in Texas. The cop said we looked like Mexicans and that we should step out of the car. He got our ID and did the usual checks and came back to my truck and said they didn’t have “anything on us”. Then he said if we were going to Mexico, we had better be careful when we got back. I said we were not Mexican and that we were not going to Mexico. And I indicated we were American Indian. He said “same difference”.
SnarKassandra @ 82
Parts of my parent’s family came to these shores in the early 1600s. The last part came with the Irish immigration wave in the 1840s. But there were also some of my parent’s ancestors waiting and waving on the shores as the first ones come along from England.
RBG @ 49
Hey, I’m an ex-canuck… And a twenty-year US Army vet, I could show them a little love…!!! *g*
Eureka Springs @ 84
huh??? They were.
Was it Chertoff who said the other day that border fences were environmental?
Did you hear that all the mayors down at the border won’t let the govt come in to build the fence?
OT, if any Mods are hanging around, you might want to check and close the previous thread ’cause the trolls are back again filling it up with their spew.