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	<title>Comments on: Is That A Fat Lady I Hear Singing?</title>
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		<title>By: pow wow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/is-that-a-fat-lady-i-hear-singing/#comment-1014347</link>
		<dc:creator>pow wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For the record, my assumption in #114 above was wrong; I misheard Harry Reid’s comment about a pending Circuit Court Judge nomination.  Reid was &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; speaking of Leslie Southwick’s nomination, as it turns out.  Here’s the &lt;i&gt;Congressional Record&lt;/i&gt; transcript of the remarks Senator Reid made on the Senate floor Wednesday just before adjournment for the day:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;     Mr. REID. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the majority leader, after consultation with the Republican leader, may turn to executive session to consider Executive Calendar No. 302, &lt;b&gt;the nomination of Jennifer Walker Elrod to be a United States circuit court judge&lt;/b&gt;; that there be a time limitation of 1 hour for debate equally divided between Senators Leahy and Specter or their designees; that there be an additional 10 minutes each for debate for Senators Cardin and Specter; that at the conclusion or yielding back of time, the Senate vote on the nomination; that following that vote, the Senate then vote on each of the following nominations: Nos. 242, 293, and 294; that the motions to reconsider be laid on the table, the President be immediately notified of the Senate’s action, and the Senate resume legislative session.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    Mr. President, also, let me say it is my intent–and I talked to Senator McConnell at some length about this–we will do these tomorrow. I talked to Senator Leahy. I am sure he has spoken with Senator Specter. It is time we did some of these, and we are going to do them tomorrow, the exact time of which I do not know, but they will be done tomorrow.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, my assumption in #114 above was wrong; I misheard Harry Reid’s comment about a pending Circuit Court Judge nomination.  Reid was <b>not</b> speaking of Leslie Southwick’s nomination, as it turns out.  Here’s the <i>Congressional Record</i> transcript of the remarks Senator Reid made on the Senate floor Wednesday just before adjournment for the day:</p>
<blockquote><p>     Mr. REID. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the majority leader, after consultation with the Republican leader, may turn to executive session to consider Executive Calendar No. 302, <b>the nomination of Jennifer Walker Elrod to be a United States circuit court judge</b>; that there be a time limitation of 1 hour for debate equally divided between Senators Leahy and Specter or their designees; that there be an additional 10 minutes each for debate for Senators Cardin and Specter; that at the conclusion or yielding back of time, the Senate vote on the nomination; that following that vote, the Senate then vote on each of the following nominations: Nos. 242, 293, and 294; that the motions to reconsider be laid on the table, the President be immediately notified of the Senate’s action, and the Senate resume legislative session.</p>
<p>    Mr. President, also, let me say it is my intent–and I talked to Senator McConnell at some length about this–we will do these tomorrow. I talked to Senator Leahy. I am sure he has spoken with Senator Specter. It is time we did some of these, and we are going to do them tomorrow, the exact time of which I do not know, but they will be done tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Forest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Forest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would hope that the reason that the left doesn’t “go after” Rush Limpdick is that we tread the higher ground.  We actually believe in freedom of speech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OK I guess I’ll say it here first.  STATISTICAL FACT: 1/2 of US population is of less than average intelligence.  Remember that the brain challenged have to have something to believe in too.  It might be victory in Iraq, the imminent return of Jesus or a flat earth but you can rest assured they will not be pulling for anything that requires more intelligence than they have.  Approach these “dims” with pity not anger - they literally don’t have the brains to come in out of the reign.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hope that the reason that the left doesn’t “go after” Rush Limpdick is that we tread the higher ground.  We actually believe in freedom of speech.</p>
<p>OK I guess I’ll say it here first.  STATISTICAL FACT: 1/2 of US population is of less than average intelligence.  Remember that the brain challenged have to have something to believe in too.  It might be victory in Iraq, the imminent return of Jesus or a flat earth but you can rest assured they will not be pulling for anything that requires more intelligence than they have.  Approach these “dims” with pity not anger &#8211; they literally don’t have the brains to come in out of the reign.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lurking Mod</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Lurking Mod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good morning everyone.  Just a friendly reminder that sockpuppeting, especially using the screen name of a famous person, is frowned upon at FDL.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning everyone.  Just a friendly reminder that sockpuppeting, especially using the screen name of a famous person, is frowned upon at FDL.</p>
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		<title>By: rush limbaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>rush limbaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“swampcracker, you neglected to mention the fact that your daughter volunteered to serve in the military.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;to true… but these soldiers are LEAVING the armed forces… and this is going to be a LONG war…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;guess who’s left?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you 28% that voted for bush twice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you voted for WAR! you can not DISOWN THE RESULTS…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;as the current crop of volunteer armed forces deros/retire/ and are honorably discharged from their misbegotten duties in dubya’s foolish religious war the vacuum will need to be filled…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;every last one of you ditto head dipshits will be rounded up and enlisted before a single rational american submits to a draft…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;at this point 72% of americans will not defend bully bush.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Limbaugh… Narcotics violator. Sex tourist. Republican. the facts, just he facts&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;[Mod Note; Sockpuppeting, especially using the screen name of a famous person, is frowned upon at FDL.  Please select a different screen name.  Thank you.]&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“swampcracker, you neglected to mention the fact that your daughter volunteered to serve in the military.”</p>
<p>to true… but these soldiers are LEAVING the armed forces… and this is going to be a LONG war…</p>
<p>guess who’s left?</p>
<p>you 28% that voted for bush twice.</p>
<p>you voted for WAR! you can not DISOWN THE RESULTS…</p>
<p>as the current crop of volunteer armed forces deros/retire/ and are honorably discharged from their misbegotten duties in dubya’s foolish religious war the vacuum will need to be filled…</p>
<p>every last one of you ditto head dipshits will be rounded up and enlisted before a single rational american submits to a draft…</p>
<p>at this point 72% of americans will not defend bully bush.</p>
<p>Limbaugh… Narcotics violator. Sex tourist. Republican. the facts, just he facts</p>
<p><em>[Mod Note; Sockpuppeting, especially using the screen name of a famous person, is frowned upon at FDL.  Please select a different screen name.  Thank you.]</em></p>
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		<title>By: almcq</title>
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		<dc:creator>almcq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;During Limbaugh’s extensive and contradictory backfilling yesterday he once again stated “you can’t support the troops if you don’t support the mission”.  I’m sure he’s exempting years ‘93-’00 but this, along with him agreeing with the “real soldiers” caller that they signed up to go to Iraq, is telling to me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During Limbaugh’s extensive and contradictory backfilling yesterday he once again stated “you can’t support the troops if you don’t support the mission”.  I’m sure he’s exempting years ‘93-’00 but this, along with him agreeing with the “real soldiers” caller that they signed up to go to Iraq, is telling to me.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;SWAT&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;SWAT&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Military LOVES Rush. He has done more for the troops over the past four years then most. This incident is going to blow-up in our faces because there is no truth to his comments. I’ve listened to the entire radio conversation. Phoney Troops was in the context of solders who aren’t solders but say they are. If we’re not carful we’re going to become like the boy who cried wolf.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Military LOVES Rush. He has done more for the troops over the past four years then most. This incident is going to blow-up in our faces because there is no truth to his comments. I’ve listened to the entire radio conversation. Phoney Troops was in the context of solders who aren’t solders but say they are. If we’re not carful we’re going to become like the boy who cried wolf.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Tierney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael J. Tierney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1013255&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kevin Hayden @ 281&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1013071&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Michael @ 270&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I just listened to the Rush audio. He was definitely talking about the soldiers that were faking news stories, etc. Sheesh, you guys are one step away from advocating censorship.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Soldiers? He claimed it was one soldier. Can’t even get your alibis straight, eh?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kevin, that’s a really minor detail, and I think you know it.  The stories about Jesse Macbeth and Scott Beauchamp were common knowledge among the VRWC - for crying out loud, ABCNews did a report on Macbeth!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Added to which, while I haven’t been able to listen to Rush as often as I have in the past, I do recall hearing him acknowledge that there are going to be members of the military who disagree with current military policy.  If memory serves, he expressed his appreciation for their service, even if he disagreed with their point of view.  Never, ever have I heard him denigrate a member of the military speaking in good faith.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1013255"><em>Kevin Hayden @ 281</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1013071"><em>Michael @ 270</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I just listened to the Rush audio. He was definitely talking about the soldiers that were faking news stories, etc. Sheesh, you guys are one step away from advocating censorship.</p>
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<p>Soldiers? He claimed it was one soldier. Can’t even get your alibis straight, eh?</p>
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<p>Kevin, that’s a really minor detail, and I think you know it.  The stories about Jesse Macbeth and Scott Beauchamp were common knowledge among the VRWC &#8211; for crying out loud, ABCNews did a report on Macbeth!</p>
<p>Added to which, while I haven’t been able to listen to Rush as often as I have in the past, I do recall hearing him acknowledge that there are going to be members of the military who disagree with current military policy.  If memory serves, he expressed his appreciation for their service, even if he disagreed with their point of view.  Never, ever have I heard him denigrate a member of the military speaking in good faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Tierney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael J. Tierney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1013211&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;swampcracker @ 279&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Moments ago, I visited the website of Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga), leaving an angry comment. Link as follows:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://kingston.house.gov/blog/?p=732#respond&quot;&gt;http://kingston.house.gov/blog/?p=732#respond&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I see that comment moderation has been enabled. In case my comment is rejected, here is the full text of what I left:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;swampcracker Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. _October 3rd, 2007 at 9:45 pm&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am speaking on behalf of my daughter who is in Iraq right now (third time), who is a liberal Democrat, who opposes the war, yet does her job regardless of hardships and hazards, who has earned two bronze stars and seven distinguished service citations for her performance. “Phoney soldier,” indeed!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Since 9/11, my daughter has missed every family milestone - every holiday, every birth, and every death. I call it “Family Interrupted.” With each passing year, there is always the empty place at the family dinner table. I watch the evening news and note the losses of other families, hoping my daughter’s name will never appear on a casualty list. “Phoney soldier,” indeed!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think you can well understand my rage over Limbaugh’s remark, but I do not understand your grandstanding and pandering over him. Frankly it offends me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Neither you nor Limbaugh support the troops unless you supports ALL the troops, including Democrats and liberals and those holding an opinion different than yours. There are liberals and Democrats who also serve in the military, and suffer hardships, and bleed and die when their country calls. Limbaugh’s remarks are disrespectful and hypocritical.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Know this: If you continue this bombast in Congress, I will do everything in my power to have you tossed out of office and disgraced in public.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So it remains to be seen if Jack Kingston’s minions decide to keep my comment or delete it. I wouldn’t be surprised to find it missing by morning.  Damn, these neo-cons.  What a bunch of low-lifes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Swampcracker,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is your opinion of Jesse Macbeth and Scott Beauchamp?  And with Rush Limbaugh’s long history of strong support for the troops, why do you find it so hard to believe that it was individuals such as these about whom he was speaking when he used the expression, “phony soldiers”?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1013211"><em>swampcracker @ 279</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Moments ago, I visited the website of Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga), leaving an angry comment. Link as follows:</p>
<p><b><a href="http://kingston.house.gov/blog/?p=732#respond">http://kingston.house.gov/blog/?p=732#respond</a></b></p>
<p>I see that comment moderation has been enabled. In case my comment is rejected, here is the full text of what I left:</p>
<blockquote><p>swampcracker Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. _October 3rd, 2007 at 9:45 pm</p>
<p>I am speaking on behalf of my daughter who is in Iraq right now (third time), who is a liberal Democrat, who opposes the war, yet does her job regardless of hardships and hazards, who has earned two bronze stars and seven distinguished service citations for her performance. “Phoney soldier,” indeed!</p>
<p>Since 9/11, my daughter has missed every family milestone &#8211; every holiday, every birth, and every death. I call it “Family Interrupted.” With each passing year, there is always the empty place at the family dinner table. I watch the evening news and note the losses of other families, hoping my daughter’s name will never appear on a casualty list. “Phoney soldier,” indeed!</p>
<p>I think you can well understand my rage over Limbaugh’s remark, but I do not understand your grandstanding and pandering over him. Frankly it offends me.</p>
<p>Neither you nor Limbaugh support the troops unless you supports ALL the troops, including Democrats and liberals and those holding an opinion different than yours. There are liberals and Democrats who also serve in the military, and suffer hardships, and bleed and die when their country calls. Limbaugh’s remarks are disrespectful and hypocritical.</p>
<p>Know this: If you continue this bombast in Congress, I will do everything in my power to have you tossed out of office and disgraced in public.</p>
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<p>So it remains to be seen if Jack Kingston’s minions decide to keep my comment or delete it. I wouldn’t be surprised to find it missing by morning.  Damn, these neo-cons.  What a bunch of low-lifes.</p>
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<p>Swampcracker,</p>
<p>What is your opinion of Jesse Macbeth and Scott Beauchamp?  And with Rush Limbaugh’s long history of strong support for the troops, why do you find it so hard to believe that it was individuals such as these about whom he was speaking when he used the expression, “phony soldiers”?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;You guys are gonna take out Rush?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He didn’t last too long on ESPN, did he?  One thing advertisers don’t like is controversy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You guys are gonna take out Rush?</em></p>
<p>He didn’t last too long on ESPN, did he?  One thing advertisers don’t like is controversy.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 08:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;shipwreckedcrew says: &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;October 3rd, 2007 at 5:13 pm&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah — other than the fact that he’s got about 10 million listeners, and makes gadzillions of dollars for the stations he’s on and the advertisers, I think you’ve really got him on the ropes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He now has about 13.5 million listeners. About 10 years ago, he had 20. If we apply the sort of constant pressure that the VRWC does, we can pare him down even further.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>October 3rd, 2007 at 5:13 pm<br />
Yeah — other than the fact that he’s got about 10 million listeners, and makes gadzillions of dollars for the stations he’s on and the advertisers, I think you’ve really got him on the ropes.</p>
<p>He now has about 13.5 million listeners. About 10 years ago, he had 20. If we apply the sort of constant pressure that the VRWC does, we can pare him down even further.</p>
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