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		<title>By: bronco24</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/all-of-a-piece/#comment-1011853</link>
		<dc:creator>bronco24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On the raids in Nasau:&lt;br /&gt;
“Mr. Smith said the agency did not count up the number of homes that agents searched where they found neither gang members nor illegal immigrants, only citizens and legal residents.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“These people are very transient,” he said of those being hunted. “They don’t stay at that location. We keep going to these different places until we find them.”&lt;br /&gt;
Only 6 of 96 warrants were correct! I take this and the quote from the HSS guy to mean that they feel they have the right to kick in any and all doors when they go on one of their little witch hunts. We should all be &lt;b&gt;very &lt;/b&gt;afraid!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the raids in Nasau:<br />
“Mr. Smith said the agency did not count up the number of homes that agents searched where they found neither gang members nor illegal immigrants, only citizens and legal residents.” </p>
<p>“These people are very transient,” he said of those being hunted. “They don’t stay at that location. We keep going to these different places until we find them.”<br />
Only 6 of 96 warrants were correct! I take this and the quote from the HSS guy to mean that they feel they have the right to kick in any and all doors when they go on one of their little witch hunts. We should all be <b>very </b>afraid!</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/all-of-a-piece/#comment-1011781</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Victor and Betsy Gotbaum are a rich, very politically connected, and extremely social power couple in NYC politics. I’m guessing most of the news directors of organizations that covered Carol Gotbaum’s death dine with them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victor and Betsy Gotbaum are a rich, very politically connected, and extremely social power couple in NYC politics. I’m guessing most of the news directors of organizations that covered Carol Gotbaum’s death dine with them.</p>
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		<title>By: TomR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/all-of-a-piece/#comment-1011745</link>
		<dc:creator>TomR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Phoenix Woman asks:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Can you spot the common threads here?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fascism&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ellensplace.net/fascism.html&quot;&gt;http://www.ellensplace.net/fascism.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- Tom&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phoenix Woman asks:</p>
<blockquote><p>Can you spot the common threads here?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Fascism</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ellensplace.net/fascism.html">http://www.ellensplace.net/fascism.html</a></p>
<p>- Tom</p>
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		<title>By: jackie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/all-of-a-piece/#comment-1011569</link>
		<dc:creator>jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Blub,&lt;br /&gt;
Owwwww,&lt;br /&gt;
LOL.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blub,<br />
Owwwww,<br />
LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: looseheadprop</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/all-of-a-piece/#comment-1011550</link>
		<dc:creator>looseheadprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1011478&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jackie @ 40&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Re; The story in Nassau..badly managed?.&lt;br /&gt;
Were they looking for ’some-one’? (non gang related). Or, was it a practice-run? (shades of martial law).&lt;br /&gt;
Were the ‘boys’ from Homeland SS, employees of the Federal Government or ‘Blackwater’ types?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think it is “shades of marshall law”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nassau County Police are partenred with the FBI and ATF and NYS police in an extremely effective and well done Gnag task force. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Old buddies of min ein the Bureau rave about the work done in Nassau on this issue. The County Executives Office, the Nassau County Bar Association and individual County Legislators have all run programs ans seminars on gang awareness and onterdiction atin the Leg. Chamber, at the Bar Assoc. and in the High Schools. I have been a speaker on some of these panels myself and have ehlped to set up others.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The law enforecemnt professsionls on the task force are incredibale. many come out to do these programs on their own time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The gang situation in Nassau is one of the best documented and the level of intel is among the best in the nation. Nassua doens’t merely keep intel and documentation on the over all gangs, they have gang sign and wardrobe info on individual “sets” or “cliques” within the gangs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, for example we have a “set” within the Bloods called , I kid you not, “Pimps in Pink” and instead f the usual red and black gang colors of the Bloods, they wear, you guessed it….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Likewise Nassau also keeps info on non affilliated gang cliques. You see gangs in America are run a lot like college fraternities. there is a “national” and then there are lcoal chapters and then sets within those chapters.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They are very sophisticated and run websites and have internal email accoutns on those websites. Hell, they even run voter registration drives.  How weird is that?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Down onthe South Shore in 5 Towns (somebody point this comment out to Pach) they have a non affiliated gang clique made up of white kids called “Armani Exchange”. Rather than gang colors, per se, they have a gang uniform consisting of matching Armanoi shirts or sometimes head to toe Armani.  Hey, it’s 5 Towns.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My point being there is no way that DHS could reasonably believe that they could have more or better gang intel than the LI Gang Task Force. Their abismal performance makes it clear that they didn’t even have mediocre intel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WHat I gleaned from reading that article was that an awful lot of innocent people had their homes broken into without a judge issued warrant. And the undocumented immigrant was not even there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This innocent people may have a &lt;em&gt;Bivens&lt;/em&gt;calim against DHS.  I think the new Nassau Police Chief showed ancredible professionalism in withdrawing support for this assault on the Constitution and I think Tom Suozzi is showing great courage in taking on a battle with Mike Chertoff.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for Suffolk, Steve levy ran on an anti-immigrant platform. He even tried to get his Police Officers cross designated as Specail ICE agents so everytime they arrested somebody they could “check that persons immigration staus”–shades of Hill Street Blues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Levy’s up for re-election this cycle and clearly playing to his anti-immigration base.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1011478"><em>jackie @ 40</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Re; The story in Nassau..badly managed?.<br />
Were they looking for ’some-one’? (non gang related). Or, was it a practice-run? (shades of martial law).<br />
Were the ‘boys’ from Homeland SS, employees of the Federal Government or ‘Blackwater’ types?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think it is “shades of marshall law”.</p>
<p>Nassau County Police are partenred with the FBI and ATF and NYS police in an extremely effective and well done Gnag task force. </p>
<p>Old buddies of min ein the Bureau rave about the work done in Nassau on this issue. The County Executives Office, the Nassau County Bar Association and individual County Legislators have all run programs ans seminars on gang awareness and onterdiction atin the Leg. Chamber, at the Bar Assoc. and in the High Schools. I have been a speaker on some of these panels myself and have ehlped to set up others.</p>
<p>The law enforecemnt professsionls on the task force are incredibale. many come out to do these programs on their own time.</p>
<p>The gang situation in Nassau is one of the best documented and the level of intel is among the best in the nation. Nassua doens’t merely keep intel and documentation on the over all gangs, they have gang sign and wardrobe info on individual “sets” or “cliques” within the gangs.</p>
<p>So, for example we have a “set” within the Bloods called , I kid you not, “Pimps in Pink” and instead f the usual red and black gang colors of the Bloods, they wear, you guessed it….</p>
<p>Likewise Nassau also keeps info on non affilliated gang cliques. You see gangs in America are run a lot like college fraternities. there is a “national” and then there are lcoal chapters and then sets within those chapters.</p>
<p>They are very sophisticated and run websites and have internal email accoutns on those websites. Hell, they even run voter registration drives.  How weird is that?</p>
<p>Down onthe South Shore in 5 Towns (somebody point this comment out to Pach) they have a non affiliated gang clique made up of white kids called “Armani Exchange”. Rather than gang colors, per se, they have a gang uniform consisting of matching Armanoi shirts or sometimes head to toe Armani.  Hey, it’s 5 Towns.</p>
<p>My point being there is no way that DHS could reasonably believe that they could have more or better gang intel than the LI Gang Task Force. Their abismal performance makes it clear that they didn’t even have mediocre intel.</p>
<p>WHat I gleaned from reading that article was that an awful lot of innocent people had their homes broken into without a judge issued warrant. And the undocumented immigrant was not even there.</p>
<p>This innocent people may have a <em>Bivens</em>calim against DHS.  I think the new Nassau Police Chief showed ancredible professionalism in withdrawing support for this assault on the Constitution and I think Tom Suozzi is showing great courage in taking on a battle with Mike Chertoff.</p>
<p>As for Suffolk, Steve levy ran on an anti-immigrant platform. He even tried to get his Police Officers cross designated as Specail ICE agents so everytime they arrested somebody they could “check that persons immigration staus”–shades of Hill Street Blues.</p>
<p>Levy’s up for re-election this cycle and clearly playing to his anti-immigration base.</p>
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		<title>By: kdh22</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/all-of-a-piece/#comment-1011549</link>
		<dc:creator>kdh22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1011525&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @ 83&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“This program takes bread out of the mouths of the starvin insurance companies and puts it into the mouths of little children who are too fat already- that’s SOCIALISM”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clusterfuck&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;DING! DING! DING!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;oddmommy&lt;br /&gt;
RW has the answer to your question.&lt;br /&gt;
Less $$ for insurance companies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1011525"><em>rwcole @ 83</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>“This program takes bread out of the mouths of the starvin insurance companies and puts it into the mouths of little children who are too fat already- that’s SOCIALISM”</p>
<p>Clusterfuck</p>
</blockquote>
<p>DING! DING! DING!</p>
<p>oddmommy<br />
RW has the answer to your question.<br />
Less $$ for insurance companies.</p>
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		<title>By: rwcole</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/all-of-a-piece/#comment-1011547</link>
		<dc:creator>rwcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;George Bush pushes america onto the slippery slope to fascism.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Bush pushes america onto the slippery slope to fascism.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan in Iowa</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/all-of-a-piece/#comment-1011545</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan in Iowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1011505&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;David Ehrenstein @ 63&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The common thread is that white women are the most important thing on earth.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heavy emphasis on “thing.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Phoenix Woman, I have only read the last link.  Can’t read the others until the OMG reaction subsides a bit.  This is why I read blogs instead of the WaPo.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1011505"><em>David Ehrenstein @ 63</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The common thread is that white women are the most important thing on earth.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Heavy emphasis on “thing.”</p>
<p>Phoenix Woman, I have only read the last link.  Can’t read the others until the OMG reaction subsides a bit.  This is why I read blogs instead of the WaPo.</p>
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		<title>By: egregious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/all-of-a-piece/#comment-1011541</link>
		<dc:creator>egregious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;New thread:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/no-actually-lets-talk-about-the-war-now/&quot;&gt;No Actually Let’s Talk About The War Now&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New thread:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/no-actually-lets-talk-about-the-war-now/">No Actually Let’s Talk About The War Now</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/03/all-of-a-piece/#comment-1011540</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Medved’s revisionist history is reminiscent of the Soviet approach.  If the facts are inconvenient, change them.  We have already seen a lot of this: Bush’s Vietnam years, his failures before 9/11, the rationales for invading Iraq and then staying there, the Petraeus testimony on what is happening in Iraq now, Bush’s response to Katrina, his tax policies, and on and on.  I can already hear future Republican pseudo-historians talking about Bush’s vast vision, his values, and his faith hindered and sabotaged, alas, by conniving Democrats working with our enemies abroad.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medved’s revisionist history is reminiscent of the Soviet approach.  If the facts are inconvenient, change them.  We have already seen a lot of this: Bush’s Vietnam years, his failures before 9/11, the rationales for invading Iraq and then staying there, the Petraeus testimony on what is happening in Iraq now, Bush’s response to Katrina, his tax policies, and on and on.  I can already hear future Republican pseudo-historians talking about Bush’s vast vision, his values, and his faith hindered and sabotaged, alas, by conniving Democrats working with our enemies abroad.</p>
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