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	<title>Comments on: SJC:  Goldsmith Testimony, Part II</title>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/02/sjc-goldsmith-testimony-part-ii/#comment-1010128</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bob - I think it was Andy Card and Gonzales that went to the hospital.  I believe Comey testified about seeing Addington very soon after the hospital, but i am not sure if it was that night or first thing the nest morning.  Addington was at the core of this junk though…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob &#8211; I think it was Andy Card and Gonzales that went to the hospital.  I believe Comey testified about seeing Addington very soon after the hospital, but i am not sure if it was that night or first thing the nest morning.  Addington was at the core of this junk though…</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/02/sjc-goldsmith-testimony-part-ii/#comment-1010028</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m way late for the party here, doing an ex post facto read of the testimony. The thing that jumped out at me the most was this comment from Sen. Whitehouse:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;This was the only time that Comey had ever put on his emergency beacon to get swiftly to the hospital. The stakes were enormously high, the issues were very important in government, and there was also a question of the integrity with the WH taking advantage of an AG who had been recently operated on.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Comey had previously related how he rushed to Ashcroft’s bedside that night, but I’d never heard that late night ride described as aided by his “emergency beacon.” I take that to mean that he had one of those swirly red and blue things like the police use on their squad cars that he could put up on the roof of his car, so that he wouldn’t have to stop at stop signs, could scoot ahead of any lines, etc. that you can’t do normally, even if you’re in a hurry. And this particular night is the only time he used it! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How much more dramatic can you get without someone firing a gun? Steve Bochko could not have come up with this one. When a movie gets made of Bush &amp; Cheney’s mal-Administration, this has got to be one of the pivotal scenes. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At least Gonzales is gone from the DOJ now, but he was only serving as pointman for Addington and Cheney. Wasn’t Addington present, too?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m way late for the party here, doing an ex post facto read of the testimony. The thing that jumped out at me the most was this comment from Sen. Whitehouse:</p>
<blockquote><p>This was the only time that Comey had ever put on his emergency beacon to get swiftly to the hospital. The stakes were enormously high, the issues were very important in government, and there was also a question of the integrity with the WH taking advantage of an AG who had been recently operated on.</p>
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<p>Comey had previously related how he rushed to Ashcroft’s bedside that night, but I’d never heard that late night ride described as aided by his “emergency beacon.” I take that to mean that he had one of those swirly red and blue things like the police use on their squad cars that he could put up on the roof of his car, so that he wouldn’t have to stop at stop signs, could scoot ahead of any lines, etc. that you can’t do normally, even if you’re in a hurry. And this particular night is the only time he used it! </p>
<p>How much more dramatic can you get without someone firing a gun? Steve Bochko could not have come up with this one. When a movie gets made of Bush &amp; Cheney’s mal-Administration, this has got to be one of the pivotal scenes. </p>
<p>At least Gonzales is gone from the DOJ now, but he was only serving as pointman for Addington and Cheney. Wasn’t Addington present, too?</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/02/sjc-goldsmith-testimony-part-ii/#comment-1009613</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1009579&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 56&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1009572&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bmaz @ 54&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Kathleen - there is a commenter by the name of Mary at the Next Hurrah that has written extensively on this.  I have researched it as well; he is no good guy.  Also note that he didn’t speak out on this until he had landed a cushy job at Harvard and had a book ready to publish.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Didn’t I hear him say the Admin is “really scared” when war crime laws came up?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes. Indeed you did.  That is exactly why they are frantic and desperate to stop progress on civil suits on the wiretapping crimes; it has the potential to open up a can of worms for them; that is why the all out push for immunity.  It is NOT because they are worried about the telcos going broke or facing criminal charges.  The government would have to indemnify the telcos for monetary losses because it demanded their cooperation and assured them it was legal (when it was not), and as to criminal problems the telco people could be pardoned.  It is ALL about protecting the Administration leaders from exposure.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1009579"><em>LS @ 56</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1009572"><em>bmaz @ 54</em></a></p>
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<p>Kathleen &#8211; there is a commenter by the name of Mary at the Next Hurrah that has written extensively on this.  I have researched it as well; he is no good guy.  Also note that he didn’t speak out on this until he had landed a cushy job at Harvard and had a book ready to publish.</p>
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<p>Didn’t I hear him say the Admin is “really scared” when war crime laws came up?</p>
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<p>Yes. Indeed you did.  That is exactly why they are frantic and desperate to stop progress on civil suits on the wiretapping crimes; it has the potential to open up a can of worms for them; that is why the all out push for immunity.  It is NOT because they are worried about the telcos going broke or facing criminal charges.  The government would have to indemnify the telcos for monetary losses because it demanded their cooperation and assured them it was legal (when it was not), and as to criminal problems the telco people could be pardoned.  It is ALL about protecting the Administration leaders from exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/02/sjc-goldsmith-testimony-part-ii/#comment-1009579</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1009572&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bmaz @ 54&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1009533&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kathleen @ 53&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Will look deeper.  Thanks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kathleen - there is a commenter by the name of Mary at the Next Hurrah that has written extensively on this.  I have researched it as well; he is no good guy.  Also note that he didn’t speak out on this until he had landed a cushy job at Harvard and had a book ready to publish.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Didn’t I hear him say the Admin is “really scared” when war crime laws came up?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1009572"><em>bmaz @ 54</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1009533"><em>Kathleen @ 53</em></a></p>
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<p>Will look deeper.  Thanks</p>
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<p>Kathleen &#8211; there is a commenter by the name of Mary at the Next Hurrah that has written extensively on this.  I have researched it as well; he is no good guy.  Also note that he didn’t speak out on this until he had landed a cushy job at Harvard and had a book ready to publish.</p>
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<p>Didn’t I hear him say the Admin is “really scared” when war crime laws came up?</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/02/sjc-goldsmith-testimony-part-ii/#comment-1009576</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How is it that Bush gets to read emails extracted from tens of millions of citizen’s emails, but Congress and the American people don’t get to read the subpoened RNC or WH emails…oh, yeah…he’s the King.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it that Bush gets to read emails extracted from tens of millions of citizen’s emails, but Congress and the American people don’t get to read the subpoened RNC or WH emails…oh, yeah…he’s the King.</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/02/sjc-goldsmith-testimony-part-ii/#comment-1009572</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1009533&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kathleen @ 53&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1009516&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bmaz @ 52&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Goldsmith is a self serving piece of pond scum.  He completely misrepresented the work he has done for the administration on torture and&lt;br /&gt;
detainees.  What he has engendered and enabled on these subjects is disgusting, immoral and unethical.  He is so far from a hero it is laughable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will look deeper.  Thanks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kathleen - there is a commenter by the name of Mary at the Next Hurrah that has written extensively on this.  I have researched it as well; he is no good guy.  Also note that he didn’t speak out on this until he had landed a cushy job at Harvard and had a book ready to publish.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1009533"><em>Kathleen @ 53</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1009516"><em>bmaz @ 52</em></a></p>
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<p>Goldsmith is a self serving piece of pond scum.  He completely misrepresented the work he has done for the administration on torture and<br />
detainees.  What he has engendered and enabled on these subjects is disgusting, immoral and unethical.  He is so far from a hero it is laughable.</p>
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<p>Will look deeper.  Thanks</p>
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<p>Kathleen &#8211; there is a commenter by the name of Mary at the Next Hurrah that has written extensively on this.  I have researched it as well; he is no good guy.  Also note that he didn’t speak out on this until he had landed a cushy job at Harvard and had a book ready to publish.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/02/sjc-goldsmith-testimony-part-ii/#comment-1009533</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1009516&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bmaz @ 52&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1009150&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kathleen @ 28&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our nation needs more people like Goldsmith!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Goldsmith is a self serving piece of pond scum.  He completely misrepresented the work he has done for the administration on torture and&lt;br /&gt;
detainees.  What he has engendered and enabled on these subjects is disgusting, immoral and unethical.  He is so far from a hero it is laughable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will look deeper.  Thanks&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1009516"><em>bmaz @ 52</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1009150"><em>Kathleen @ 28</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Our nation needs more people like Goldsmith!</p>
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<p>Goldsmith is a self serving piece of pond scum.  He completely misrepresented the work he has done for the administration on torture and<br />
detainees.  What he has engendered and enabled on these subjects is disgusting, immoral and unethical.  He is so far from a hero it is laughable.</p>
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<p>Will look deeper.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: bmaz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/02/sjc-goldsmith-testimony-part-ii/#comment-1009516</link>
		<dc:creator>bmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1009150&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kathleen @ 28&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our nation needs more people like Goldsmith!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Goldsmith is a self serving piece of pond scum.  He completely misrepresented the work he has done for the administration on torture and detainees.  What he has engendered and enabled on these subjects is disgusting, immoral and unethical.  He is so far from a hero it is laughable.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1009150"><em>Kathleen @ 28</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Our nation needs more people like Goldsmith!</p>
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<p>Goldsmith is a self serving piece of pond scum.  He completely misrepresented the work he has done for the administration on torture and detainees.  What he has engendered and enabled on these subjects is disgusting, immoral and unethical.  He is so far from a hero it is laughable.</p>
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		<title>By: twȝk</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/10/02/sjc-goldsmith-testimony-part-ii/#comment-1009303</link>
		<dc:creator>twȝk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1009282&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;selise @ 49&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;happy to be of service…. here’s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netrootsmass.net/Congressional_Hearings/files/20070210-Senate_Committee_on_the_Judiciary.html&quot;&gt;the webpage&lt;/a&gt; with audio of today’s SJC hearing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1009282"><em>selise @ 49</em></a></p>
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<p>happy to be of service…. here’s <a href="http://www.netrootsmass.net/Congressional_Hearings/files/20070210-Senate_Committee_on_the_Judiciary.html">the webpage</a> with audio of today’s SJC hearing.</p>
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<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: VJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>VJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;NO IMMUNITY until full disclosure, at least.  I would prefer no immunity ever, but it is more important to nail the bosses (we know who you are), not the dime bag dealers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO IMMUNITY until full disclosure, at least.  I would prefer no immunity ever, but it is more important to nail the bosses (we know who you are), not the dime bag dealers.</p>
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