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zed?
TREX!!LL!!
tres!
amen!
zed
let downstairs know, please :)
The Righteous Brothers had a very nice version of this song, too.
I let downstairs know and congrats d-s-d!
if there’s a vid with this post, it’s not showing up here even after a couple of hard refreshes :-(
TRex, is there supposed to be a video? I’m not seeing one
I fetched them ;)
I not see linky
*waiting for cursing from trex when he discovers no video*
i got lost in the wheel. finally freed myself to come join you.
I guess it was a very, very long time coming….
Suzanne @ 13
hopefully it won’t be a long time coming…
do-si-do @ 16
Maybe he’s searching for his roll of quarters?
TexBetsy @ 14
TexB: My son brought home a lulav and esrog today. I never had my own.
BigMitch @ 7
I’m kinda partial to Aaron Neville’s version.
Laura Doty @ 15
Okay, smartasses.
Everybody hard refresh.
Ok- 10pm Phoenix news
U-Haul center not far from my house….. rental truck came back & called the sheriff about what was in the back of the truck. Very suspicious and might be terrorist related. No bombs, explosives BUT just papers.
THE FBI says it is NOT related to terrorists….Is not even investigating it…. sure sounds like a Sheriff Joe publicity stunt.
Woman trapped in CT scanner for 5 hours. She escaped the machine and called her son on her cell phone then 911. Oh this was in Tucson.
The doggities won’t wait another minute. Time for the moon and the crickets. Goodnight everyone–have a peaceful weekend.
LL have a wonderful time!
katymine, you’re in my prayer circle.
Wonderful BigMitch. I love the smell.
TRex @ 20
cranky dino-guy tonight?
Suzanne @ 24
No, just the more perfect metaphor. We don’t get the change ’til we do the hard refresh. Bush Dogs, listen up!
Ahhhhh, that’s better.
I feel so…refreshed!
was away folding last-minute laundry. Thanks Laura!
sure was a long time coming getting that refreshing feeling, trex
TRex @ 26
Douche?
Dang, I run out to whip my spuds and flip my chicken, and I’m left far behind… I also had to tend to the cobs of corn…!!! *g*
y’all talk about this today?
Judge orders Murtha to testify
from RawStory
WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge refused Friday to dismiss a defamation case against Rep. John P. Murtha and ordered the Pennsylvania Democrat to give a sworn deposition in the case. A Marine Corps sergeant is suing the 18-term congressman for alleging ”cold-blooded murder and war crimes” by unnamed soldiers in connection with the deaths of Iraqi civilians in the town of Haditha.
Catholics initiate call to GI’s to refuse
from AfterDowningStreet.org – Impeach Bush and Cheney Now!
“Refuse to kill. Refuse the order to go to war … We know your resistance to war will be difficult and require great courage.”
By Jonah House and Dorothy Day Catholic Worker. September 28, 2007
Brothers and sisters in the military: “Refuse to fight! Refuse to kill!”
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/27272
You are being ordered to war in the footsteps of veterans, who, more than 10 years ago, were sent to fight the first Gulf War. Many of those vets returned with severe and unacknowledged illnesses. Many gave birth to severely deformed children. All were abandoned by the Veterans Administration.
Laura Doty @22
Thank you…. it was how I convinced my mid 80yr old parents to stay in Oregon and not drive down. Told them I needed them to work the prayer circle for me and that would be the best medicine.
LORDY I really did not need to worry about them driving 1500 miles.
They Won’t Comply With Subpoenas, So Waxman Sends Letters, Enough to Level a Forest – Where’s Environmental Protection?
from AfterDowningStreet.org – Impeach Bush and Cheney Now!
Today Chairman Waxman wrote to State Department Inspector General Howard Krongard regarding reports that senior staff attempted to coerce employees not to cooperate with the Committee’s inquiry and threatened their jobs and careers.
Text of the letter follows:
Dear Mr. Krongard:
I am writing to you about an exceptionally serious matter: reports that your senior staff has threatened officials that you could fire them if they cooperate with the Committee’s investigation into your conduct.
Ok everyone, time for me to split. Carry on, pups, and thank you for all that you do. Keep on fighting and pushing back in your own way. See you all on or around Oct 8!
TexBetsy @ 32
Something not right here. There are good reasons for declaring this war illegal. Maybe even for refusing to fight. But fear shouldn’t be one of them. That the VA abandoned gul war vets is dispicable, but not a reason for GIs to refuse their orders.
CTuttle @ 30
flip flop and fly
T-Rex:
Excellent choice. You rock…
Speq alwrt!
Bye LL. Have fun.
LL, lift a kilt and sneak a peak for me
LL have a fantastic trip. Say howdy to the queen from us.
Suzanne @ 41
Suz ;-)
Editorial: Runaway (Spending) Train
from NYT > Opinion
If President Bush is going to start withdrawing troops from Iraq, why on earth does he need vastly more money from Congress to wage war?
LL, have a pint or two for the pups!
cheers!
TexBetsy @ 14
Me, too.
Hi, Betsy! How are you doing today?
Bob in HI
Jeff Clement a rookie, just hit a walk off homerun in Seattle.
Cheers, then, {{{{{everypup}}}}} good night!
bobschacht @ 46
Better after 2 naps. Running myself ragged with work and holidays.
msm may be waking up
LL
May your flight be on time, the flight crew friendly and an abundance of food. My customs be a breeze and have FUN!
OK, gang, I’m going to travel to bed.
Peace.
night do si do
don’t forget your bar of soap, do-si-do
LoudounLib @ 48
Bon voyage!
katymine @ 33
Do you know, if they needed to come down and there’s a problem with flying, I’ll bet there’s enough of us between them and you to deliver them by FireDogRailroad…..(I’m good for a leg of the trip through N. Ca…)
do-si-do @ 37
LoudounLib @ 43
*gasp* Ya wouldn’t! By the way, they’re mighty drafty…!!! ;-)
41 votes in the Senate can block anything with a fillibuster. But the least populated states representing 11% of the population are represented by enough Senators to block cloture.
and i can get them to palm springs (if the car fairy visits me this weekend as a little birdie told me would happen) – my mom and dad are going back and forth between palm springs and peoria, az planning their move there
I’m good if they get seriously lost and pass through central texas.
CTuttle @ 58
and this is something that i would not have already known
Perry’s $9,900-a-month rental home raising eyebrows
from HoustonChronicle
Texas Gov. Rick Perry and his wife, Anita, have opted for a $9,900-a-month rented home while the Governor’s Mansion is under repair. Their housing choice has raised a few eyebrows, but they aren’t the first to face scrutiny while choosing a temporary home during the repair of an official residence.
Suzanne @ 62
Maybe not as much as is legend…!!! ;-)
I appreciate it Laura… My Dad is sharp as a tack and a very safe driver but worry about everyone else. Mom is the issue, she is showing dementia lately and it is worse when they travel.
I promised that I would go up to visit them when I was well enough. I have a couple of US Air vouchers that need to be used.
Wow, I’d like to rent them our house.
TexBetsy @ 61
And if anyone completely loses their
mindway, I can navigate Missouri with them.TexBetsy @ 63
Now here’s a guy who should have his haircuts scrutinized.
ct, honey, as a female who attended public schools back in the day when there were dress codes requiring girls to wear skirts and dresses and pants and slacks were prohibited, trust me when i say that any woman knows that a kilt is drafty – just like every dress or skirt every woman has ever put on has been.
Again…. everyone here is THE Best!
Suzanne @ 69
Yes’m!!! *g*
TexBetsy @ 49
Stopping here for some Lake therapy? *g*
I hope it helps!
Bob
TexBetsy @ 63
As I recall, Huckabee lived in a trailer, while the Arkansas gubernatorial mansion was remodeled.
Oh our dear Trex,
What anthem of both heart and soul! I needed to hear this mournful tone from Mr. Redding tonight.
We are aching for a change and it just has to come.
Shadowstalker @ 67
Dang, fini, needed a ride from Indy to Minny to see Donita, but, no takers…!!!
TexBetsy @ 17
Um, is anyone gonna empty the MF’ing quarter jar, it’s kinda full . . . *G*
Otis Rawhks. Great Selection.
Wow, that’s really expensive public housing!
TheOtherWA @ 77
Just for reference, OUR apartment costs less that 1/10 of that per month.
katymine @ 65
Katymine,
You aren’t going to need them. Love of my life had same diagnosis and surgery. All was well in no time. No problems at all!
kilt eye candy – not work safe but not x rated
Bush climate plans spark debate
from BBC World
A US plan for countries to set their own CO2 emission reduction targets is criticised by some diplomats.
Suzanne @ 80
Close enough…!!!
BigMitch @ 73
Was tornado damage.. At the time I lived a block away from the Gov mansion and that tornado was a really bad one among a hundred others that day in AR. Anyway the State mashed several trailers together for a spell on the mansion grounds and the Hucks stayed put.
The Huckabees are not wealthy and they are cheap unless its somebody else’s money.
Suzanne @ 80
Thanks! I like that site. Very nice photos. :D
But yeah, I won’t be looking at that one at work.
Why on earth does it cost $25,000 to lower a couple of stall doors… Hmmm…
http://www.boomantribune.com/s…..13249/0902
SunnyNobility, thank you for the info….. I think it was Dad’s normal reaction to take care of his baby girl even if I am a grandmother myself :)
CTuttle @ 85
ct, i thought they were doing them all – not just the larry craig memorial stall
I can’t claim credit for this juke box discovery. It was posted earlier today by a certain FDL regular- re: the way back machine. Found it while catching up on the comments. It did make me smile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6svtzfZhlI
Suzanne @ 87
As Boo relayed it was gonna cost a Mil. to do them all…!!!
The stall doors are evidence in the case of Minna vs. Senator I’m not gay!
Destruction of evidence is a crime.
Bill for remodel.
Lower stall doors——————$500
Legal defense fund————–$24,500
this is not good.
Nuclear power surge coming
from Christian Science Monitor | Top Stories
In the next 15 months, US regulators expect applications for up to 28 new plants.
they must be replacing the entire panels to make them longer
and this one just seems silly.
For voters, ‘tough’ now trumps ‘nice’
from Christian Science Monitor | Top Stories
The front-runners for each party’s nomination are also perceived by voters as the ‘toughest’ in their lineups.
YES!
TexBetsy, thank you.
Such an irony – the power and inspiration of Christ’s teachings may yet defeat the fundie neo-cons’ war.
One simple teacher – defeating the deluded fundamentalists of three desert faiths.
What a wonderful liberation from five millenia of war for one of three jealous deities.
Let the monotheistic gods fight it out in heaven – our mortal blood is too precious to pour on the sterile altars of patriarchy and absolute rule – no matter what shape the house of worship.
No matter what tongue reads the sacred texts.
May the fundies of each of the three selfish Gods take their intolerant, murderous, absolutist political doctrines back to their congregations – and out of our health care, foreign affairs, marriages, and child-rearing.
Out of our Republic’s mundane affairs.
No more mortal tombstones for the deathless deities – or the profane mindless wars we are told to pursue in mockery of their names.
No more murders for ideology – religious or economic.
No more killing for the tissue of lies power pulps out of genuine faith and divinity.
No more murders for the three jealous Gods.
Let them slit one another’s throats – not ours.
Bless Catholic Worker, Jonah House, and Dororthy Day for fraying the yoke between our criminally insane leaders and the armed force they willingly send against civilians.
As we saw in Burma, a mutinous army standing with a free people saves lives.
And only those who identify with absolute power stand to lose.
Let them.
Five thousand years of theocratic rule is five thousand years too many.
May Christ the gentle revolutionary help to overthrow the abattoirs the fundies of all three monothesitic Gods have erected in our public live – and national values.
Bless Jonah House, Catholic Worker, and Dorothy Day.
US troops’ open dissent and covert non-cooperation with our murderous war upon the Iraqi people will save many lives.
Their commander-in-chief and their most senior officers have cynically abandoned them to die for no discernable tactical objective – merely for political cover.
Their senior officers’ illegal orders demand defiance – not obedience – under the UCMJ and the Nuremberg trials.
Every bombing mission cancelled, every deployment deferred is another opportunity in furtherance of life and the Republic.
In a democracy, soldiers’ highest duty is to defend our liberty and freedom – most of all when that requires them to defy their commanders.
For in those times – our time – their commander is a tyrant.
Hope the message of defiance to Bush’s illegal and morally abhorrent orders to further prosecute America’s criminal war against Iraq’s civilians spreads far and wide.
The sooner US troops defy the generals, the sooner they can come home.
Mutiny for democracy.
Mutiny for America.
Defy the Generals – save the Republic.
End George Bush’s insane war before it destroys the Republic and the Constitution our officers swore to uphold.
Support the troops – against the Generals and the Boy King.
Support their defiance of this illegal war and our deranged, impaired, delusional President.
Mutiny for democracy!
It’s not so much the stall doors as it is the dividers between the stalls. The new longer ones have to be bolted to the walls and floors, so it’s a complete remodel/installation of the stalls.
It’s stupid, but uptight people think that’s better than paying minimum wage to a bathroom attendant, which would also solve the problem.
BigMitch @ 90
Heh, I wonder when he loses, can the State make him pay the remodeling fees…??? ;-)
Never Trust Anybody Over 49
from NYT > Opinion by GAIL COLLINS
Barack Obama’s campaign is the revenge of Gen XYZ — a reminder to the 50- and 60-somethings that they’ve become part of the system they used to decry.
They have a place in SF (only one flight of stairs!)
Laura Doty @ 56
Did everyone misappear?
(whispering) i think they are still looking at those kilts
i’m still here, and on facebook
Suzanne @ 100
at the kilts or their contents?
Me too, just quiet.
guess we will have to wait and ask em, tex, when they come up for air
katymine @ 99
Misappear? I had to feed the horde…!!! *g*
Just might be time for me to call it a night.
Oh… with a last name that is usually called the Smith of Scotland…… and that was interesting but….. but …. so many were as young as my kids
Just stayed up to hear Letterman’s top 10.
LoudounLib @ 48
fly careful like, there, LL
TexBetsy @ 106
G’nite, Ma’am!!!
CTuttle @ 96
That may need to remodel the restrooms in the senate too!
ok, i promise to never link to kilt candy again
Suzanne @ 80
WOOO! (ndfg fans self) wander away for a while to do dishes & clean counter, ‘n Suze gives me a reward!
Nite TexBetsy
Suzanne @ 100
No kidding…dial-up here. Puts Gannon’s website to shame.
I’m here, but still working. End of the business month and all that…have to earn my pay. No kilt candy for moi.
g’nite TB – thanks for the laughs and the inspiration tonight.
(and thanks for letting us visit with the wise soul Cassie)
yellowdog jim @ 108
I was showing my hubby your link re: Supporting the Monks of Burma. The Santa Rosa contingent to tomorrow’s demonstration in SF is growing….thanks again.
And now good night for reals everyone. Sweet dreams and light hearts to you all.
twȝk @ 110
And deny all the other Goopers their satisfaction…??? ;-)
inspiration?? where? when?
*waving to all the leaving sleepy pups*
kirk murphy @ 94
The sooner US troops defy the generals, the sooner they can come home.
Mutiny for democracy.
Mutiny for America.
Defy the Generals – save the Republic.
End George Bush’s insane war before it destroys the Republic and the Constitution our officers swore to uphold.
Support the troops – against the Generals and the Boy King.
Support their defiance of this illegal war and our deranged, impaired, delusional President.
Mutiny for democracy!Right On! Fuck Bush!
Suzanne @ 111
I resisted to urge to link to goatse.
Sweet dreams, Laura!!!
CTuttle @ 118
Yeah your right. I’ll need the webcam install!
ok – I gotta know.
what’s a goatse?
g’night all, off to dream of kilts 8-)
twȝk @ 124
D’oh, 707
Ok, I am heading off to bed….. don’t want to miss Pull up a Chair again….
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{FDL pups}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
kirk murphy @ 125
Just be glad you don’t know!
lubricious dreams, ndfg ;)
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 126
G’nite, NDFG! I’m gonna make my way towards the shore, too! I bid ya’ll a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!
question – is there a difference in the music (not the lyrics) between the theme song to the jetsons and the theme song to the flintstones?
sleep well, CT and Laura.
(thanks for the news of the SF Burma protest Sat)
kirk murphy @ 133
Noon at 1450 Laguna St (X Geary), across from the Chinese Embassy.Folks are encouraged to wear red in solidarity.
g’nite katymine. Rest well..
Laura Doty @ 117
good night, Laura.
thank you
Suzanne @ 132
I’m pretty sure there is.
i heard a parady song last night, happy birthday sung to the theme to the jetsons and i kept thinking it was the flintstones – always get those two mixed up, tj
I always wished I lived in the Jetson’s world.
“the most outspoken and farsighted of the leaders of the American Revolution”: “Every age and generation must be as free to act for itself, in all cases, as the ages and generations which preceded it. Man has no property in man, neither has any generation a property in the generations which are to follow.” — Thomas Paine
From Abbie Hoffman
To me, the Jetson’s theme isn’t very melodic. That sounds like it would be a challenge.
i grew up thinking the jetson’s world would be here by the time i was my age
at facebook:
Support the Monks’ protest in Burma
Jetsons
Wow, I’m impressed, Jim. That’s great global coordination.
Suzanne @ 142
Me too
I better call it a night. Sweet dreams to everyone.
‘nite, laura, tj, and any sleepy pups i may have missed
oh dang, most of the pups have gone to bed and i neglected to ask earlier what the friday nite news dump was
g’nite TJ – sleep well.
MoveOn should do a revision of Common Sense in reaction to all this Sense of the Senate Nonsense.
nite all. Off to dream of poodles, goldens and fabulous combos thereof.
g’nite sunnyn
TJ @ 145
the facebook group has 136,000 members.
127,00 are new.
looks like i’m the next pup to start yawning.. g’nite folks
Plain text version of Common Sense.
yellowdog jim @ 154
Jim, do you have a link to the army mutiny?
Cuz Every Thread Needs A Shot Of Americana.
TexBetsy @ 91
Well, it depends on how they’re going to do it, doesn’t it? I’m a bit of a contrarian, myself, with respect to the nuclear power issue. If we could solve the problem of what to do with the radioactive waste, nuclear energy is a great idea!
One of the problems is that people have no idea of how to consistently evaluate risk. Some people go on and on about the risk of nuclear waste at Yucca Flats, and of transporting nuclear waste there, and then every day indulge in much more dangerous risk behaviors without a second thought. In other words, I think discussions about nuclear waste tend to border on the irrational.
What is it that you find most objectionable about nuclear power generation? (This is not a rhetorical question, nor is it a “trick” question.)
Bob in HI
Suz – you have incoming mail! ;~)
twȝk @ 157
this blog reports it.
it links to a burmese site.
written in burmese.
i don’t have the font set.
and i don’t
read
Burmese.
Bob in HI:
I agree that we are crazy to take nuclear power generation off the table. But there are risks, that must be evaluated rationally.
Of course, one risk is a decreased dependence on Alaskan oil. Hard to evaluate that one at PFD time.
(PFD= Permanent Fund Dividend, the money paid to each Alaskan annually representing a dividend on a fund created from oil money when the Trans Alaska Pipeline went in.)
g’nite, suzanne – sweet dreams to you, the cutest dog in the world, and the little house in the redwoods.
(trivia contest tag ;)
bobschacht @ 159
Waste storage on this planet HAS to be a major concern. We’d be NUTZ to up the ante on this one.
Why not shoot it into the sun?
*G*
We COULD shoot it into space, but gravity being what it is and all, it may haunt us or future gen’s in a BAD way.
But into the sun? What harm there?
Sheesh. I take the time to compose a post (I’m slow, I guess), and almost everybody leaves before I can send it out!
Well, thanks for your response, BigMitch. My sister and her hubby live up in Alaska (Sitka). If we could just get this nuclear thing solved, we wouldn’t have to be so dependent on Iraqi oil.
Bob in HI
yellowdog jim @ 161
That Burmese site is in the States.
OrgName: Abacus America Inc.
OrgID: ABAC
Address: 10350 Barnes Canyon Rd.
City: San Diego
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 92121
Country: US
NetRange: 69.64.64.0 – 69.64.95.255
CIDR: 69.64.64.0/19
larue @ 164
Actually, that is *exactly* what I was thinking! (although not too seriously)
None. It would be right at home, and a mere fly speck. The biggest problem is that there is a LOT of nuclear waste:
That would require a massive fleet of space garbage trucks.
Bob in HI
twȝk @ 166
Thanks for posting on the Mayanmar/Burma issue. I was hearing on the news tonight that the biggest difference between this incident and the last big flare-up years ago is that world coverage of the situation in Burma is harder to keep out than it was before, and that is having an effect, and encouraging the forces of resistance, but I’m not sure how.
Bob in HI
bobschacht @ 167
This has been looked at pretty hard. Setting aside the catastrophic consequences of a launch-pad incident, the energy necessary to get it to fly to the sun would require a few slingshot maneuvers. Have to track it for a long time.
bobschacht @ 167
Or a massive growth industry it put it good use. Beats me what you could do with it but that waste still has a ton (har, har) of energy potential.
Looks like the myanmar gov had a building spree last year.
twȝk @ 166
i have seen no other mentions and i have been looking.
the military situation is complicated by the indigenous peoples’ insurrections and their affiliated armies, of which there are several:
KNU
could have some of your ethnic strife there.
seeing as the predominant Burman folk have had their issues with all these other folks.
for a long time.
makes Iraq seem quaint.
Here is some reporting from Singapore.
bobschacht @ 167
Yeh, I was wondering what the payloads might look like . . . I’m opposed to storing it on the planet . . . it’s just an accident waiting to happen.
But then, with thousands upon thousands of nukes built and stored and waiting for an accident, what’s a buncha long lived half life radioactive waste to worry about? ;-)
twȝk @ 171
impressive.
especially in light of the current situtation being triggered by sharp increases in the price of basic commodities.
i had only just heard that the junta had moved the capital into the jungle.
hi pups :)
Burma links…
mutiny
collected Burma blogs (English translation)
The Irrawaddy
SF Gate on many more Burma links and their context / affiliations.
FWIW: The American Conservative magazine has a cover article entitled “Sychophant Savior” by Andrew J. Bacevich, professor of history and international relations at Boston University. http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2…..icle2.html
If that seems strange given the way that the conservatives beat up on MoveOn for less, note that the American Conservative is a bastion of libertarians and paleoconservatives like Pat Buchanan. I seldom can tell them from progressives when matters of foreign policy and constitutional rights are under discussion. In fact I get a sense that there is a tight connection between The American Conservative and antiwar.com.
In any case, it’s a very good article.
hi ydj – thank you so much for your research!
read
last nightthis morningthat the ethnic Karen (?) states in Burma had demanded the junta fall.Thanks for the chats FLD Folks, time for this Larue to make like fine swine and waller till the morn. Oinks a whey. ;-)
Anybody heard from or read a comment about Jane’s computer situation? Was she able to recover from her computer’s “crashed” state or does she have to buy a new one?
bobschacht @ 168
my sense of this is that it is a parallel to when a prisoner is being beaten in a dungeon that none may know about,
versus,
a person being attacked by thugs in broad daylight with witnesses.
encouragement happens when things get exposed.
post-1988 technology … well, you know.
If there’s anyone left awake who is following the situation in Myanmar/Burma with interest, see how “citizen journalists” are playing a role there as never before:
If you go here, you can Review this Story, i.e., give it your rating, etc. The WSJ article also includes a sidebar with a list of websites where you can track the situation in Myanmar closely.
Bob in HI
kirk murphy @ 178
yes.
Karen, yes.
Karen rebels back Myanmar monks’ protests
and, you’re welcome.
it’s consumed me.
i seek to know that she is safe.
when gambari arrives tomorrow he must be allowed to visit aung san suu kyi.
we must threaten the beijing olympics to leverage the chinese to bring pressure to bear on their clients.
om ah ra pa tsa na dhi
I wasn’t able to post earlier when discussions were on Naomi Klein’s book, The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism”. As someone else stated here at FDL or on another blog, bar none, this is the best book I’ve read (or listened to) in quiet some time.
When I am work, often I wish I could reply to comments and encourage specific readers to read this book. I would encourage everyone to read or listen to this book as soon as possible. At Audible.com, I believe it’s about $15 to download.
twȝk @ 170
Also a larger quantity of exotic heavy elements that you won’t find much in nature. Some energy company like Exxon, with billions of dollars to spare, should buy the stuff up, and set up a special lab to study the heck out of all those exotic elements. After all, fossil fuels won’t last forever.
Bob in HI
http://burmanews.cbox.ws/
Looks like the Monks practice the oldest form of Buddism. “the Way of the Elders“
Burmese people ask for help the Lake can freely give them – yay!
[ot - and now, sleep well, pups…]
ko htike’s prosaic collection
twȝk @ 173
i used that link although it fails initially.
i went to the main place and fished around.
thanks.
bobschacht @ 182
that is an excellent article.
i think wsj gets it.
and i am impressed.
whew….just checked out the thread from earlier today about Hillary’s Iran vote…..went on even longer than I thought it did.
oddmommy @ 192
Sure did!
Kenji Nagai, 50
Japan said to demand punishment for death in Myanmar
“It was obvious that a soldier shot him on the back,” Yamaji told reporters at Tokyo’s Narita Airport before his departure, saying his video may provide details of the killing.
twȝk @ 193
I was at work and missed it. Can you summarize?
Or at least provide a link to the best comment?
Bob in HI
bobschacht @ 195
Hillary bad!
twȝk @ 196
John good!
Those four words about sum it up for me! *g*
Bob in HI
twȝk @ 193
well, at least the matter is resolved now. : )
More seriously, it really turned toward a discussion of the lobby that can’t be named.
bobschacht @ 197
lol :)
twȝk @ 187
the Theravadin tradition dominates southeast Asia.
they follow the Pali Canon.
Tibet, China, Japan, Mongolia are Mahayana.
oddmommy @ 198
yeah, lol. Talk about a hot button. Wore me out just keeping up with the comments!
twȝk @ 196
muy funny
bobschacht @ 195
oh me gawd…..summarize…?
well…..I thought oddmommy had some good points…
: )
yellowdog jim @ 201
Yah, interesting stuff. If I was religious I might be a Buddhist.
OMG!!!111 Bigfoot is a buddaa!!!111
twȝk @ 206
astounding
yellowdog jim @ 207
Are you a Buddhist Jim?
oddmommy @ 192
I thought this from Scarecrow’s posting was a bit off:
IMHO, Hillary is neither “reckless” nor “foolish.” I’m sure she cast that vote in favor of Kyl-Lieberman for very practical reasons. One obvious possible reason is that a large fraction of her financial backing is from people with a strong interest in preserving Israel’s nuclear monopoly in the middle east. (For some of the details google on Hillary and Saban.)
Rep Hall (NY) should read scarecrow’s post on free speech.
twȝk @ 210
Doesn’t Hall get it that by doing this he is treating MoveOn and Limbaugh as moral peers? Every sane person on the left has been insisting that an ad in the NYT is not worth congress’s time. The same goes for Limbaugh’s blather.
twȝk @ 210
lol, as i told rep hall in the comments… after quoting most of scarecrow’s post – i hope scarecrow doesn’t mind!
oh, and good morning!
wigwam @ 211
Doesn’t look like he does get. Looks more like he is trying to parlay condemning free speech into free media time.
morning selise!
twȝk @ 214
may i impose on you again? saved the error msg i got when trying to compile cocoajt…
Good morning everyone.
Mornin’ all!
twȝk @ 210
Hall’s an asshole for putting this diary up. On the survey that Jane recently had up I voted for him to come an explain his MoveOn vote. Now I would say just cut him off.
Republicans vote for more war Blue Dog Democrats do the same they think we can win and they are entitled to their opinion,….provided they back it up by preparing for the consequences if we loose.
There are 2.2 million Iraqi refugees living in other countries http://news.independent.co.uk/…..640418.ece
Now then I wonder if the GOPers and the Blue dogs are willing to volunteer their states and the neighborhoods they live in to accept oh lets say 1 million of them.
Just the ones who cooperated with us and their families, and their families family.
I’m sure the Government can claim Eminent Domain on a Porsche Dealership in Mitch McConnel’s neighborhood or Trent Lott’s. Knock it down and put in a few hundred person apartment buildings for the Refugees right in front of Trents house.
Those responsible must feel the consequences of their actions. Their voters must be made to understand the middle class and the poor are not going to pay for failure this time, they will.
Good morning, pups. Today in the NYT we have TOMC typing some stuff about Hillary and Bob Herbert writing about a trend in policing.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got waffles with Vermont maple syrup to share. Have a lovely Saturday.
U.S. confirms Baghdad air strike
Good morning
yellowdog jim @ 191
“Citizen journalists” that’s like us, isn’t it.
Morning all! The pollen is high and I’m beginning another day of sneezing (with medication and a steroid shot, I’m still almost immobilized). Yep, I want to go back to NZ. The husband is flying here in two weeks for his first visit back in two and a half years. We are betwixt and between about where to live after the son goes to college next fall.
Hey egregious! How are things going for you these days?
FDIC Shuts Down NetBank Due to Defaults
It was the largest savings and loan failure since the tail end of the industry’s crisis more than 14 years ago. Federal regulators appointed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. as a receiver for Alpharetta, Ga.-based NetBank.
Customers with less than $100,000 deposited with NetBank will be protected by FDIC insurance.
NZ Expat, now in KS @ 225
Hey NZ, good to see you! I’m in California for a conference, details at 1am :)
Child dies of toothache because he did not have healthcare. Now Bush talks about being a Compassionate Conservative and Jesus being his favorite Philosoher.
Now doesn’t Jesus say something about the last shall be first and the first shall be last? Maybe Bush and Congress could set an example for the rest of the country and deny themselves dental care until the rest of the nation has a check up.
I know SOCIALIZED MEDICINE! But tell me just what did George think Jesus meant when he said a Rich man has as much chance of getting into heaven as a Camel has of going through the eye of a needle?
Tell me how can we be both a Christian Nation and a Capitalist one? After all a man cannot serve two masters God and money.
Jesus says sell all that you have and give it to the poor and you will have treasure in Heaven. Then come follow me.
Many will come in my name saying I am Jesus and mislead the people.
Bush is a misleader. Now then what did Elijah do to all the false prophets of Baal when they couldn’t light the fire?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7018057.stm
Sorry if I mangled the bible sayings
Ted Stevens’ $84 million ‘ferry to nowhere.’
So any Lawyers here today maybe somebody can explain to me why Carlos Arredondo’s attackers the Gathering of Eagles guys who beat him up were not arrested? Didn’t the police stop the beating? Then they know who did it. So do rightwingers get a pass or what?
They can’t all claim that they were so moved to attack one defensless guy. I get into a fight its me I don’t ask my friends for help of course I don’t beat up people for disagreeing with me. This was a mob attack designed to scare us.
Pull up a Chair upstairs…
The incredible Christy Hardin Smith is Upstairs
Didn’t the Aryan Nation have to file bankrupcy after there people attacked someone?
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/a83.html
Didn’t the Klan file for bankrupcy too? http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f…..ence/Times Topics/Organizations/K/Ku Klux Klan If we can find GOP ties to these groups we can go after them too!
BigMitch @ 59
Let me guess, most of those states are represented by Republican senators.
TexBetsy @ 93
Good to know they now recognize Edwards as the Dem front-runner. Polling has shown for a long time now that he’s the only Dem who can beat any of the Repub candidate and has consistently done so over many months now.
To Republicans who wanted the soft Hillary to face…Tough!